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Pompoy123

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Cheap and cheerful - expensive and shite

What have been your experiences. Have you ever splashed out a shed load for some expensive WG and got a really port service compared to seeing a cheap as chips girl and had your toes curl??

If you can share the AW links that would be great too.

:) :dance:

vorian

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Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

Pompoy123

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Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

But why is it then WGs can offer such a high price sometimes and punters book them?

vorian

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But why is it then WGs can offer such a high price sometimes and punters book them?

Because the majority of punters are uneducated and don't use UKP.

Pompoy123

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Because the majority of punters are uneducated and don't use UKP.

Ooooo  :unknown:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

Rule two, pay a ridiculous low rate and you are walking on thin ice.     :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Ask yourself this ----------------- why on earth would they charge £60-£70 an hour in London. ????????

The chances are that either you will be asked for "extras" or your time will be cut short.

Offline Jimmyredcab

But why is it then WGs can offer such a high price sometimes and punters book them?

A high price to us may be chicken feed to some guys, bear in mind that a tiny flat in Central London can set you back £1 million.

Offline CBPaul

If you are talking about basic price then it is no indicator of quality.

In my punting area going rate is 100 - 120 per hour for an EE girl, 130 - 150 for English, get a good EE girl and the extra the English girls charge is money wasted, chances are you're not going to leave feeling it was an extra 50 quid well spent. Anything above 140 I ignore, they can't charge 200 quid per hour just because they are young, English, got big tits, whatever. Problem is too many punt with their eyes, see a tasty photo, believe the shite written in the profile and are automatically making the booking irrespective of over inflated prices. Quite possibly under the illusion that she must be good to charge the high price. 

Cheap and cheerful for me then  :)

Online hendrix

Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

This is true for sure. My preferences however only seem to be met by girls in the £150 - £300 range.

Offline Jimmyredcab



Cheap and cheerful for me then  :)

You have said you consider girls up to £140 an hour, I would not regard that as "cheap".    :hi:

cockneybstrd

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This is all very subjective from what is cheap as chips and what is expensive. It all depends on the punters pocket and tastes and the value of the rate to the punter.

I have a new review to do which was at more expensive end of the market. It was a great service and she was a stunner but probably not worth extra 75 quid I paid compared to the one I had the day before.

Though I do take my hat off to those that operate in the very cheap end of the eastern euro market travelling across London's shitholes and dealing with surly pro$$ies. It seems a thankless task to me and very time consuming. But I am very lazy when it comes to my punting of recent.

Offline CBPaul

You have said you consider girls up to £140 an hour, I would not regard that as "cheap".    :hi:

I consider 150+ as expensive and 200+ ridiculous. I rule out anything above 140 and then consider what's left. That's just based on what I'm willing to spend / have to spend though. The vast majority of my punts are either 100 or 120 p/h these days, very few about below 100 in these parts and those profiles have the distinct look of fake or scam about them.

Offline tel_house

Rule two, pay a ridiculous low rate and you are walking on thin ice.     :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Ask yourself this ----------------- why on earth would they charge £60-£70 an hour in London. ????????

The chances are that either you will be asked for "extras" or your time will be cut short.

There are exceptions to this Xena in Harrow for example or is Harrow not London?

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

cockneybstrd

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Tel House

Personally I count zones 1-4 as London

And yes always exceptions to every rule but Jimmy is correct that in his Rule 2 - pay a ridiculous low rate and you are walking on ice



Offline rockharders

But why is it then WGs can offer such a high price sometimes and punters book them?

Because some punters are stupid fluffy fucking mugs, some punters equate price with quality, some punters have more money than brains.

I've read fluffy FB on AW for £300+ escorts that makes me wanna puke.

Offline Jimmyredcab

There are exceptions to this Xena in Harrow for example or is Harrow not London?

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Of course there will always be the odd exception -------------------- and yes, Harrow is in London.    :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Tel House

Personally I count zones 1-4 as London


Not sure how we define "London"      :unknown:

You have Central London and Greater London --------------- I live in the suburbs but pay my rates to the London Borough of Havering. 

Generally speaking anywhere within the M25 is classed as Greater London ------------ even Heathrow is in a London borough.

cockneybstrd

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Postcode once you lose your E and become an IG your out of London

This could turn into the big is it London or Essex debate when it comes to Havering.


Offline Jimmyredcab

Postcode once you lose your E and become an IG your out of London

This could turn into the big is it London or Essex debate when it comes to Havering.

Let me explain why Havering can no longer classed as Essex.

If you phone the police you will get Met police attend, if you phoned them from Brentwood you would get Essex police attend.

London black cabs are not allowed to work in Essex but they are allowed to work in Havering.

I believe these changes took place many years ago when the M25 was completed, basically if you are within the M25 you are in a London borough.     :hi:


cockneybstrd

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Indeed Jimmy I do know these points but its debate in someways as even the Council address is Romford Essex.

Anyway I thought the Black Cabbies had to have different permits to work in Central London to the Suburbs or is that urban myth as told me to by a Black Cabbie the other week when he was moaning how quite his rank was ??

Offline latecomer

Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

+1
This has been discussed here many times and there has always been a variety of views expressed.  I know I've said this before (and no doubt I'll go on saying it until I'm blue in the face) but throughout my entire punting "career" I've never found any relation between price and quality.

Offline Jimmyredcab



Anyway I thought the Black Cabbies had to have different permits to work in Central London to the Suburbs or is that urban myth as told me to by a Black Cabbie the other week when he was moaning how quite his rank was ??

Yes, there are two different types of licence, green badge is anywhere within the M25, yellow badge is limited to certain boroughs ---------------- but no black cabs can pick up outside of the M25 unless it is a pre-arranged booking.  :hi:

Offline Jimmyredcab

+1
This has been discussed here many times and there has always been a variety of views expressed.  I know I've said this before (and no doubt I'll go on saying it until I'm blue in the face) but throughout my entire punting "career" I've never found any relation between price and quality.

Paying £250 an hour certainly won't guarantee a fantastic experience ------------------- but paying £60 an hour will almost certainly end up a disappointment.  :(

Offline smiths

Cheap and cheerful - expensive and shite

What have been your experiences. Have you ever splashed out a shed load for some expensive WG and got a really port service compared to seeing a cheap as chips girl and had your toes curl??

If you can share the AW links that would be great too.

:) :dance:

I have paid £350 an hour and the WGs were ok, and paid £70 an hour and she was good. I have also many times paid £80-100 an hour and punted with good WGs, recent example being Hot Katalina at £80 an hour.

The fact is there is NO link between how good a WG is and what she or her pimp charges. Thats because what makes a good WG is her attitude NOT what she happens to charge.

Some punters on here who view ALL WGs who charge under £100 an hour as skanks are totally and completely clueless, not understanding the above fact or indeed the many punters including me who have posted about such WGs. Up to them of course, they just make themselves look VERY foolish, i just hope newbie punters arent taken in by their bollocks, thats proven bollocks.:hi:

Offline rockharders

but paying £60 an hour will almost certainly end up a disappointment.  :(

This has been debated endlessly. I've had some great punts at 60 bob but I will avoid any romanian skank with zero FB even at £50ph.

Offline smiths

This has been debated endlessly. I've had some great punts at 60 bob but I will avoid any romanian skank with zero FB even at £50ph.

As have a number of other punters on here and reported on them in reviews, its been proven there are decent WGs at that low rate. Lowest i have yet paid apart from a Soho Walk-Up many years ago is £70 an hour and she was a good WG, now long gone.

Like with any WG who is a newbie to you you need to be cautious of course and ready to walk if necessary. :hi:

Offline Steve2

There are exceptions to this Xena in Harrow for example or is Harrow not London?

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Or her flatmate Nicole BUT

lets not start Jimbo off again

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Offline Jimmyredcab

This has been debated endlessly. I've had some great punts at 60 bob but I will avoid any romanian skank with zero FB even at £50ph.

Very wise in my opinion.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I don't know what it is with Romanians, maybe they get pissed off working for very low rates, if they charge £70 an hour and the pimp takes 50% you can hardly expect a convincing GFE.   :thumbsdown:

Offline NotTooOld4It

Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

Twas ever thus. For everything.

Offline Matium

But why is it then WGs can offer such a high price sometimes and punters book them?

There are a lot of guys in London, especially in the City, who treat a £1,000 in the same way as other men treat £5.00.

They'll have no trouble going on Girls of Paradise and getting a £1,000 hooker even though they could get a prettier girl on Adultwork for £120.

Basically, it's snob value.

What they don't realise, of course, is that when it comes to women, there's no correlation between price and performance.

potato

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Very wise in my opinion.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I don't know what it is with Romanians, maybe they get pissed off working for very low rates, if they charge £70 an hour and the pimp takes 50% you can hardly expect a convincing GFE.   :thumbsdown:

I haven't tried any Romanians so can't comment on it personally but I see the general trend on here!  Its interesting that the minimum wage in Romania is about £120 per month and the average wage is £287 per month. So even if their pimp takes half, at £35 per hour they are earning more than the weekly minimum wage. You would think they would get their act together on those figures and give an excellent performance when they are getting a weeks wages for an hours worth of work... Then again, I suppose that could be said for a lot of english girls as well...

Andre 3000

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As with most things it depends on the actual woman you're seeing. I've had three punts that were £60 an hour that were great all three of them british girls and I've had punts that were touching £180 that were also great.

Caution of course must always be taken, I'm sure many of us on here are cynical enough to not believe every bit of nonsense in a WG's profile.

Offline MancSean

Let me explain why Havering can no longer classed as Essex.

If you phone the police you will get Met police attend, if you phoned them from Brentwood you would get Essex police attend.

London black cabs are not allowed to work in Essex but they are allowed to work in Havering.

I believe these changes took place many years ago when the M25 was completed, basically if you are within the M25 you are in a London borough.     :hi:
I know I am just a northerner but my ex comes from Watford and that's inside the M25 but is defo not London it's Herts and have had a couple of £150 punts there which weren't bad either

Offline Steve2

Back to the drawing board Jimbo ;)
« Last Edit: April 24, 2014, 06:49:38 pm by Steve2 »

Vinblanc

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Had some great £80 punts and some disappointing £150+. Feedback is king here!

Offline Horizontal pleasures

Cheap and cheerful - expensive and shite

What have been your experiences. Have you ever splashed out a shed load for some expensive WG and got a really port service compared to seeing a cheap as chips girl and had your toes curl??

If you can share the AW links that would be great too.

:) :dance:

no, I hav never splashed out a shed load for some expensive WG but I have occasionally done that for a duo.
I prefer cheaper or maybe mid-range. But my tastes differ from most gents on here. I like them more mature, more 'homely' and BBW (but essential or exclusively) so most of mine are less expensive and as h=cheerful as I can find them.

Offline threechilliman

Reverse bookings can be a bit of fun here. Amazing how prices can come down 'to your level'.....

Offline hockogrockle

Sorry. Can't agree at all with Jimmy Red Cab's dogmatic statement that "£60 will guarantee disappointment" What possible basis has he for saying this? Round about £60 is the going rate for 30 mins in most parts of the country. I know there are women in central London who charge a fortune because they are catering for the Russian oligarch market, but I suspect they are out of the reach of most posters on this forum. And who is to say they are any better? Personally I fall into the camp that says there is no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service. If the woman is Eastern European, poor money-grabbing service is on the cards. If she is not you could be in for a very nice surprise. Or a very nasty one.

Offline Heph

I thought it read in a more nuanced than dogmatic way. To quote directly:

JRC: "Paying £250 an hour certainly won't guarantee a fantastic experience..."  Nb "won't guarantee"

"...but paying £60 an hour will almost certainly end up a disappointment".  Nb "an hour" & "almost certainly"

I can't find much to disagree with there. But if anyone has experienced blindingly great service for <£60ph, and recently, and wants to share it, then I'm sure we're all ears, right?

Offline Sedlmayer

I consider 150+ as expensive and 200+ ridiculous. I rule out anything above 140 and then consider what's left. That's just based on what I'm willing to spend / have to spend though. The vast majority of my punts are either 100 or 120 p/h these days, very few about below 100 in these parts and those profiles have the distinct look of fake or scam about them.

+1. Yep - that's exactly my pattern and philosophy too  :drinks: and it seems to work very well too  :thumbsup:

philboi

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Sorry. Can't agree at all with Jimmy Red Cab's dogmatic statement that "£60 will guarantee disappointment" What possible basis has he for saying this? Round about £60 is the going rate for 30 mins in most parts of the country. I know there are women in central London who charge a fortune because they are catering for the Russian oligarch market, but I suspect they are out of the reach of most posters on this forum. And who is to say they are any better? Personally I fall into the camp that says there is no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service. If the woman is Eastern European, poor money-grabbing service is on the cards. If she is not you could be in for a very nice surprise. Or a very nasty one.

I think you'll find JRC was referring to £60 per hour wgs when he said "£60 will guarantee disappointment"
The problem is that many of these cheap wgs either change for simple extras like kissing or oral which makes it a more expensive punt or either they'll end the hour booking early, which means you'll only be getting maybe 30 - 40 minutes for the money - which equates to around £100 - £120ph.
Certainly I agree with the statement "there's no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service" although we could pay £80, which is cheap compared to some, and get a good service but I would say personally Jimmy is right when he mentions £60 will end in disappointment as it's too cheap!!
If there are no good reports to be found on a wg then it's always going to be a gamble no matter how little or how much we pay!

Offline Steve2

I think you'll find JRC was referring to £60 per hour wgs when he said "£60 will guarantee disappointment"
The problem is that many of these cheap wgs either change for simple extras like kissing or oral which makes it a more expensive punt or either they'll end the hour booking early, which means you'll only be getting maybe 30 - 40 minutes for the money - which equates to around £100 - £120ph.
Certainly I agree with the statement "there's no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service" although we could pay £80, which is cheap compared to some, and get a good service but I would say personally Jimmy is right when he mentions £60 will end in disappointment as it's too cheap!!
If there are no good reports to be found on a wg then it's always going to be a gamble no matter how little or how much we pay!

Not true

I currently see 3 girls locally who are all excellent and charge £60/hr. I always get the full time, full on DFK, OWO, RO and as much sex as I want

They ARE out there BUT as always , DO YOUR RESEARCH and check exactly what is on offer BEFORE you hand over the cash and be prepared to walk if need be
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 09:24:55 am by Steve2 »

Offline smiths

Not true

I currently see 3 girls locally who are all excellent and charge £60/hr. I always get the full time, full on DFK, OWO, RO and as much sex as I want

They ARE out there BUT as always , DO YOUR RESEARCH and check exactly what is on offer BEFORE you hand over the cash and be prepared to walk if need be

Absolutely spot on Steve. :thumbsup: Plus as you know Jimmy didnt only limit himself to £60 an hour WGs, he decided to widen that to ALL WGs that charge under £100 an hour are skanks. Total and complete crap and proven total and complete crap by yourself, myself and numerous over punters on here as reviews and other forum feedback has shown.

I replied to a post of Jimmys on Off-Topic last night where he says perhaps punters arent the best people to comment on the Clifford case as some punters punt with WGs younger than their daughters or indeed grand daughters. As i replied the differene being those WGs were all adults and consentually offering their WG services on the net. There is absolutely no comparison between Clifford and us punters in reality. In reply to my post he posted he doesnt wish to discuss anything with me. Well stop posting complete shit then and i wont need to. I am not aware of any rule that says a poster cant reply to ANY posts of ANY poster if they so wish, and i will be continuing to do so when i read crap. ;)

philboi

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Not true

I currently see 3 girls locally who are all excellent and charge £60/hr. I always get the full time, full on DFK, OWO, RO and as much sex as I want

They ARE out there BUT as always , DO YOUR RESEARCH and check exactly what is on offer BEFORE you hand over the cash and be prepared to walk if need be

Well lucky you!

But then I did say quote:
"Certainly I agree with the statement "there's no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service"...."

One thing that's absolutely correct is 'DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE PARTING WITH ANY MONEY' and be prepared to walk.
They must be amongst the most important things for a punter.

Offline Steve2



But then I did say quote:
"Certainly I agree with the statement "there's no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service"...."



Absolutely right, you did

Then you went  on to spouting bollocks just like Jimbo

I would say personally Jimmy is right when he mentions £60 will end in disappointment as it's too cheap!!


Which is 100% incorrect as the 20+ members from here who have seen Xena and Nicole will tell you

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« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 12:57:53 pm by Steve2 »

philboi

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Absolutely right, you did

Then you went  on to spouting bollocks just like Jimbo

I would say personally Jimmy is right when he mentions £60 will end in disappointment as it's too cheap!!


Which is 100% incorrect as the 20+ members from here who have seen Xena and Nicole will tell you

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Steve, don't you love to split hairs!

I believe from what you've written you agree with the statement "there's no correlation whatsoever between the price you pay for sex and the quality of the service"

Also I have no doubts that you and 20+ other members have a great time with Xena and Nicole, who I assume charge £60ph?

Perhaps though one word was wrong when I mentioned agreeing with Jimbo and it should have read....

"Generally I would say Jimmy is right when he mentions £60 will end in disappointment as it's too cheap!!"

If this is bollocks someone prove it by finding more gorgeous wgs who give a top class service for £60ph, especially out of town!
The odds are it will end up in disappointment!!

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cockneybstrd

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Steve 2

While I agree price is the not the major driver in the relation to service.

I would suggest that the percentage of good prossies at 60 quid an hour is very low.

I take my hat of to you and others who explore this part of the London scene (for me its be too much like hard work plus I prefer Outcalls)

Offline Steve2

Yes the % at £60/hr is low but they are out there

Out of 25,927 escorts on Adultwork in the UK only 610 are priced at a max of £60/hr

Take out the 104 who list bareback and down to 506

so just over 2% of the total

Luckily for me and many others nearly 20% of the remainder are within 10 miles of my home location, so a lot more choice to find the "gems"

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Offline Anadin

I can't speak to service too much as I'm not that experienced but I can say that I've not see any ladies that I find attractive for under £150 an hour in London and unfortunately for me the type I like only seem to get more attractive the higher their fee. :(

fgs

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Rule one ,price does not always indicate quality.

Agree wholeheartedly