Outcall with Dirtydoll18, London attempted robbery, avoid

[magic_mike23]

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Let me start off by saying I'm a longtime lurker and have never posted before as I don't punt very often(maybe once every 6 months), even less often in the UK as I'm often travelling between the states and China as well. I realise this means this may mean my review has less weight to it or even be disregarded, but I simply have to get this out there to warn the rest of you the disaster and headache that is Dirtydoll18.

I Originally put a reverse booking for a 2h outcall to my apartment for £250 on the 05/10/2018 in the east London area, which is how I arranged the meet with Dirtydoll18. I had a look at her reviews and saw that she was sometimes flakes /no shows as per the review written here previously and the escort reviews she has on AW. I don't mind her being late/not showing up, as I wasn't really missing out on anything, since the venue is an apartment I'm already renting. We then arranged to extend it to an overnight to meet at 6PM for £500 on the same evening, which I thought was a great deal, almost too good to be true, but took anyway. In hindsight, I should've been a red flag, but my blood was not in my head at the time.

On the day of the meet, she phoned me from a private number telling me she'd be late and we'd be meeting at 6:30PM and that I won't be able to reach her by phone as she has lost hers. It was a sketchy excuse, but gave her the benefit of doubt coming up with a shitty excuse to withhold her number from punters, which was fine with me as I do value privacy and discretion myself as well. After numerous phone calls telling me how she's running very late, she finally arrives at 8:40PM. I went down to pick her up to head up to my flat, and it all started going downhill further.

As soon as she arrived, paperwork was done and we both went to the shower. After I showered, we got down to business. However not even 5minutes into sex, she insisted on going out for a smoke, where her 2 accomplices were waiting for her in a vehicle and I didn't know at the time. She pretended she was wandering around asking for a lighter and went to the vehicle, which shortly after, she opened the backseat door and attempted to get in. Luckily I was close enough and managed to follow her into the backseat, during which her accomplice tried to push me off before the door closed as her driver was driving off. In the process, I tried to hold on to her purse, ironically the only thing that was in my reach, to avoid getting pushed off the car as it was driving off. In the end, they still managed to push me off as the car drove off, along with the escort's purse that I was holding onto I luckily managed to recover the payment, but no punter deserves to go through this ordeal and so I'm here to strongly advise you all to avoid meeting with this woman. She also left her jacket, a fanny pack, her socks and her scarf before the ran out for her "smoke", so I really don't know what's going through her head.

I'm contemplating on filing a police report for the attempted robbery, but seeing as I recovered my original payment, I don't know if I should as I just want to get rid of the belongings she left behind and leave this whole ordeal behind me.

edit1: left out the date of the meet in the OP by accident and only put it in the title, edit to include the date of the meet in the OP.

[Liverpool]

The WG may claim that you have "stolen" her property, in those items of hers that you have, if you filed a report to the Police. You have your money back. You have negatively reviewed her here and warned the rest of us. I'd leave at that.

[hillingdonpete]

You say " On the day of the meet"  when was this, and why has it taken so long to write this?
Her feedback shows you it has happened a few times.

[magic_mike23]

The WG may claim that you have "stolen" her property, in those items of hers that you have, if you filed a report to the Police. You have your money back. You have negatively reviewed her here and warned the rest of us. I'd leave at that.

Great, thanks for the advice, I wasn't sure what to do since I've never experienced this before. I guess I can rest on my concierge being a witness along with the CCTVs in the lobby area to prove she left before she took her items if she were to file a police report against me.

[A Decent Fist]

Jesus H. Christ mate, that's a nightmare. I don't think I'd have been brave enough to force my way into the car like that, but well done . . . seriously.

Personally, having got my cash back I wouldn't bother with the cops. Even if you're single and fancy-free it could end up with you giving evidence in court and the case getting in the papers.

Do take care when entering and leaving the flat for a few weeks. You can't be too careful, although a cop I once talked to about a crime I'd witnessed said that your average criminal low-life has the attention span of a goldfish, no organisational skills, and only ever thinks in the present.

[magic_mike23]

You say " On the day of the meet"  when was this, and why has it taken so long to write this?
Her feedback shows you it has happened a few times.

it happened this evening, I wrote the review right after what happened. I must've left out the date of the meet by accident and only included it in the title, going to edit that in the OP now.

[magic_mike23]

Jesus H. Christ mate, that's a nightmare. I don't think I'd have been brave enough to force my way into the car like that, but well done . . . seriously.

Personally, having got my cash back I wouldn't bother with the cops. Even if you're single and fancy-free it could end up with you giving evidence in court and the case getting in the papers.

Do take care when entering and leaving the flat for a few weeks. You can't be too careful, although a cop I once talked to about a crime I'd witnessed said that your average criminal low-life has the attention span of a goldfish, no organisational skills, and only ever thinks in the present.

Thanks for the reassurance, I'm still having an adrenaline rush now even 2hours from when it happened. There were so many red flags I missed simply because I was too horny to think straight 

[magic_mike23]

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[hillingdonpete]

it happened this evening, I wrote the review right after what happened. I must've left out the date of the meet by accident and only included it in the title, going to edit that in the OP now.

Look, I'm not trying to pull you up but why would you write "on the day of the meet", thats means it was in the past, not today, just before you write this review. 


Your lucky you have your money back, you were not dragged down the road. it could have much worse. Look on the brightside.

[magic_mike23]

Look, I'm not trying to pull you up but why would you write "on the day of the meet", thats means it was in the past, not today, just before you write this review.

English is not my first language, so I'm not really that good at writing, sorry if I've caused any confusion.

I definitely consider myself very lucky and am grateful to be both unharmed and got the money back, I just wasn't sure originally if the best move was to report the incident to the police or to leave it be to avoid any legal gray area hassles.

[EnglishRebecca121]

why would you book someone with such shite feedback"!

[magic_mike23]

why would you book someone with such shite feedback"!

I was not exactly thinking, I more than wish someone would've just slapped me hard enough back then so I was somewhat using my brain to avoid this menace 

[Kev40ish]

why would you book someone with such shite feedback"!

I agree looking at her feedback, you have to be a mosochist or stupid to risk seeing her...

Which are you Op?

[lewisjones23]

im calling bullshit on this

managed to get in to a moving car and grab a purse whilst fighting people off?

didnt realise Jason Stratham had joined the forum

[magic_mike23]

im calling bullshit on this

managed to get in to a moving car and grab a purse whilst fighting people off?

didnt realise Jason Stratham had joined the forum

the car wasn't moving initially, I was half way in when the driver started to drive away very slowly and only really started speeding up as the second accomplice pushed me off as I was trying to grab hold of something, which coincidentally was the purse as she was wearing it to on the side closest to the door, to maintain balance.

You may choose to believe what you want, I'm happy to elaborate on more details if anyone thinks it's not believable. In the end, it doesn't alter what I've experienced, and all I wish is for this not to happen to someone else.

[Kev40ish]

the car wasn't moving initially, I was half way in when the driver started to drive away very slowly and only really started speeding up as the second accomplice pushed me off as I was trying to grab hold of something, which coincidentally was the purse as she was wearing it to on the side closest to the door, to maintain balance.

You may choose to believe what you want, I'm happy to elaborate on more details if anyone thinks it's not believable. In the end, it doesn't alter what I've experienced, and all I wish is for this not to happen to someone else.

I think your eligible for the newly instituted Darwin awards for stupid punters...

Really what did you expect after reading her reviews..

Either your a fantasist or stupid...

[magic_mike23]

I think your eligible for the newly instituted Darwin awards for stupid punters...

Really what did you expect after reading her reviews..

Either your a fantasist or stupid...

Yes, I admit I was retarded for thinking the worst that can happen from her reviews was her not showing up, which at the time I didn't think it was a huge problem, as it was a flat I was renting anyway, so even if she didn't turn up I wouldn't have lost out on any venue costs I was too gullible and optimistic.

[LLPunting]

English is not my first language, so I'm not really that good at writing, sorry if I've caused any confusion.

I definitely consider myself very lucky and am grateful to be both unharmed and got the money back, I just wasn't sure originally if the best move was to report the incident to the police or to leave it be to avoid any legal gray area hassles.

English is not your first language?  Yet you write with greater fluency, familiarity and colloquialism than most Brits on this board.

You jumped into a car with 3 hostiles, any of whom could've been armed, any of whom could've gotten out and assaulted you.

They have your address and you "stole" £500 from them.  They know you're good for at least 500 going forward.

Do you have the incident recorded on CCTV?

Your apartment doesn't have a balcony she could've gone for a smoke (you're not on ground floor)?

You were having sex but then you both got dressed so she could go have a smoke downstairs.  You were expecting her to do a runner weren't you?

There are too many incredulous elements to this story.

If it is genuine then you better watch your back for a while.  They know where you live, they'll be able to determine your real name, they may find you at work and on social media.

[magic_mike23]

English is not your first language?  Yet you write with greater fluency, familiarity and colloquialism than most Brits on this board.

You jumped into a car with 3 hostiles, any of whom could've been armed, any of whom could've gotten out and assaulted you.

They have your address and you "stole" £500 from them.  They know you're good for at least 500 going forward.

Do you have the incident recorded on CCTV?

Your apartment doesn't have a balcony she could've gone for a smoke (you're not on ground floor)?

You were having sex but then you both got dressed so she could go have a smoke downstairs.  You were expecting her to do a runner weren't you?

There are too many incredulous elements to this story.

If it is genuine then you better watch your back for a while.  They know where you live, they'll be able to determine your real name, they may find you at work and on social media.

I don't quite have the whole incident recorded on CCTV, at least according to my knowledge, I'd have to check the area again to see if there were any CCTVs where she got into the car. Though there are CCTVs and a concierge in the lobby area which can identify her and her time of entry / leaving the apartment complex.

My apartment is on one of the higher floors and unfortunately didn't have a balcony. As for her attire, she came to me in a tight one piece dress without any underwear, so when she got "dressed" after the brief amount of sex, she was simply pulling her dress back up to cover everything. At the time, I was thinking either she was extremely high or definitely trying to get away with some excuse, which smoking was perfect for, which only made me stay  closer to her in case something happened.

My gut feeling was telling me something's not quite right immediately after the money exchanged hands, she insisted on using the guest bedroom separate shower, as she wanted us to shower at the same time separately, even though I was happy with letting her use the shower first in the bedroom we were in, as if she's trying to get out of sight to make a run for it.

Safe to say I'm only feeling dumber and dumber every second after the ordeal, the more I look back at it, the more I shook my head at all the obvious red flags that were right in front of my face but chose to give the benefit of doubt.

Luckily I'm only here for a brief while and I do live in one of the more safer areas, guess I'll simply avoid going out late in the evenings for the rest of the trip.

[Dicky]

Good job on retreiving your money safely....could have gone very wrong too. Given it only happened yday and the pimps know where you live,nI'd still be very careful for the next many days.

[Dajie]

Whatever else this may have been, it wasn't a robbery. Not on the info supplied.

Robbery is theft using/intimating violence, whereas you are saying that she just upped and left. She wasn't your captive, so she was entitled to do that.

Yes, what you allege sounds like a rip off, scam, etc and if a WG wants to end the meet then sure, I want my money back!

But even if the police had been there at the time and had intervened, you probably wouldn't have got it. It's an odd one in the UK because while selling sex is legal, the contract is not enforceable. No court is going to make a WG refund a dissatisfied punter.

Same with gambling debts I believe. I knew a guy who decided to become a "professional gambler". He lost money hand over fist for ages on the horses, not the tote - those blokes by the track. Then one day he won big, about £7000 he told me. He was delighted. Took his slip to the bloke who told him to fuck off.

If a WG walks off with your money you've got zero recourse to the law unfortunately. Maybe in Germany where it is all properly legalized and they pay taxes?

[magic_mike23]

Whatever else this may have been, it wasn't a robbery. Not on the info supplied.

Robbery is theft using/intimating violence, whereas you are saying that she just upped and left. She wasn't your captive, so she was entitled to do that.

Yes, what you allege sounds like a rip off, scam, etc and if a WG wants to end the meet then sure, I want my money back!

But even if the police had been there at the time and had intervened, you probably wouldn't have got it. It's an odd one in the UK because while selling sex is legal, the contract is not enforceable. No court is going to make a WG refund a dissatisfied punter.

Same with gambling debts I believe. I knew a guy who decided to become a "professional gambler". He lost money hand over fist for ages on the horses, not the tote - those blokes by the track. Then one day he won big, about £7000 he told me. He was delighted. Took his slip to the bloke who told him to fuck off.

If a WG walks off with your money you've got zero recourse to the law unfortunately. Maybe in Germany where it is all properly legalized and they pay taxes?

Yeah, whether it was legally a theft/robbery or not was one of the reasons I was also hesitant to make a police report despite coming out unscathed. After reading a bit further into how theft is defined, I recall we had a written agreement for a meet with a duration of 10 hours, but there were video recordings of when she went in and left the premises for a duration of less than 10 hours; which means the payment of £500 was technically still my property as the agreed upon terms were not satisfied yet, but if the contract is not enforceable then there would be no ground to establish the element of appropriation.

Then again I'm no legal expert, wanted to make the police report just to cover my own behind as she did leave close to everything she brought with her at my apartment before she made a run for it with the payment 

[last_days_of_logan]

Robbery is theft using/intimating violence, whereas you are saying that she just upped and left. She wasn't your captive, so she was entitled to do that.

at the point where they pushed him out of the car with force, would that not bring robbery into the lime light?

[Helloyou75001]

Did you have sex at least? By and pussy fuck?

[Dajie]

at the point where they pushed him out of the car with force, would that not bring robbery into the lime light?

A copper attending an incident like this is going to ask "how did she get your money?" and as soon as you say "I gave it to her" you are going to flick a switch in his legal training that will take you down a completely different route.

This is a none too infrequent occurrence with street prostitutes. Men calling police or flagging them down because, er, that lady over there stole their money. How did she do that sir? Oh, er, she took £40 out of my wallet. Or my hand. Why did you have your wallet out sir?

What happened of course is that they paid her and she just walked off or she didn't deliver the desired service.. it doesn't matter because as soon as they suss out you gave her the money it's a civil dispute. Like buying something from Amazon but it doesn't turn up. Only in this case there are no trading standards because the contract is not enforceable. A court might order Amazon to deliver the goods. It's not going to order a woman to have sex with you. If you give somebody money, legally the money is theirs.

Forcing your way into somebody elses car to use force to retrieve the money you gave them is a bit like burgling the Amazon warehouse because they won't deliver your stuff. You might think the money belongs to you, but the law probably doesn't. In the eyes of the law, perversely, you are probably the one committing the robbery here.

If you had injured the woman or caused the car to crash, it could have been bad news.

I'm not saying it was the wrong thing to do. Natural justice and all that! But it does show the risks of operating in legal grey areas.

If the police stumble on a guy trying to pull a street walkers purse off her shoulder and his explanation is that he "gave" her £40 and he wants it back, he is the only one that will end up in the back of the van. If she can be bothered with it. More likely she'll just walk away of course, they'll keep him talking for 20 mins until she has vanished, give him words of advice and turn him loose. But he's not getting that £40 back.

[Laney08]

A copper attending an incident like this is going to ask "how did she get your money?" and as soon as you say "I gave it to her" you are going to flick a switch in his legal training that will take you down a completely different route.

This is a none too infrequent occurrence with street prostitutes. Men calling police or flagging them down because, er, that lady over there stole their money. How did she do that sir? Oh, er, she took £40 out of my wallet. Or my hand. Why did you have your wallet out sir?

What happened of course is that they paid her and she just walked off or she didn't deliver the desired service.. it doesn't matter because as soon as they suss out you gave her the money it's a civil dispute. Like buying something from Amazon but it doesn't turn up. Only in this case there are no trading standards because the contract is not enforceable. A court might order Amazon to deliver the goods. It's not going to order a woman to have sex with you. If you give somebody money, legally the money is theirs.

Forcing your way into somebody elses car to use force to retrieve the money you gave them is a bit like burgling the Amazon warehouse because they won't deliver your stuff. You might think the money belongs to you, but the law probably doesn't. In the eyes of the law, perversely, you are probably the one committing the robbery here.

If you had injured the woman or caused the car to crash, it could have been bad news.

I'm not saying it was the wrong thing to do. Natural justice and all that! But it does show the risks of operating in legal grey areas.

If the police stumble on a guy trying to pull a street walkers purse off her shoulder and his explanation is that he "gave" her £40 and he wants it back, he is the only one that will end up in the back of the van. If she can be bothered with it. More likely she'll just walk away of course, they'll keep him talking for 20 mins until she has vanished, give him words of advice and turn him loose. But he's not getting that £40 back.

Fucking hell mate you do talk a lot of sense. Good to have the legal beagle view 

[Brazilian Martian]

im calling bullshit on this

managed to get in to a moving car and grab a purse whilst fighting people off?

didnt realise Jason Stratham had joined the forum

+2000

[DylanPerry]

English is not your first language?  Yet you write with greater fluency, familiarity and colloquialism than most Brits on this board.

The colloquialism gives it away.

Case of a long time lurker wanting to have a bit of fun and get a kick out of posting and stirring up a bit of trouble. Chose someone with previous as the WG of their fantasy booking and Jason Statham character moves as someone else put it.

End.

Similar to when that bloke did the fake review on that Hungarian gym bunny Ana.

Thanks for the legal spiel Judge Kavanaugh(?) aka Dajie and similar points by others...but yeah, it didn't happen  So irrelevant.

[king tarzan]

Putting it brutally and simply

A well deserved 📮 for you

Your own fault!
You got your money back.
Stop whining and move on!!

She is a piece of shit and for you it's self inficted damage!

[Brazilian Martian]

Putting it brutally and simply

A well deserved 📮 for you

Your own fault!
You got your money back.
Stop whining and move on!!

She is a piece of shit and for you it's self inficted damage!

This never took place, no doubt some sleeper troll stiring up trouble

[OutForJustice80]

Did I miss something? How exactly did you get the moment back if the purse was in the getaway car after you were left on the street? Also how the hell were you outside to get in the car when she’s gone out for a smoke? Did you leap from you balcony?

I’d like to be sympathetic but this screams that it didn’t happen.

[OutForJustice80]

Just noticed the girl in the review is in the same AW group as Franny/Megan Carter may so perhaps this is just a bit more fun for them.

[peter purves]

Sorry to hear mate 

As long as you do not mind the 'hassle'  - then file a report.

Who knows how many other punters have already been robbed and/orwill be robbed or seriously injured? As in your case you were nearly pushed out of a car

[Brazilian Martian]

Just noticed the girl in the review is in the same AW group as Franny/Megan Carter may so perhaps this is just a bit more fun for them.

No doubt YBL has something to do with it

[Laney08]

Had to do a doubletake as seen the pics fully - Seen this girl as part of a duo years ago (I think, not sure she had a different AW name).

No problems at all with her. Pretty lovely personality, tits were a little much as great balloon type bolt-ons with a poke-too-hard-and-they'll-pop feel.

That said who knows what she's been up to in the years since but does sound a bit much with this Jason Statham shit. Whole thing smells of the sort of drama and hassle that seems to follow some WGs around like a bad smell (there's been some ladies in particular mentioned here).

I remember a pretty known WG telling me she never feared her clients would out her or nowt. It was the other girls she knew that might being jel or envious. All this sisters together shit doesn't apply for the attitude of every woman you're likely to meet, including WGs 

[magic_mike23]

Update:

Dirtydoll ended up getting in touch with me to set things right in the end and I managed to return her possessions she left behind from the evening of the meet. The evening went on to be a disaster due to a combination of us both consuming too much alcohol to think straight and that her driver thought she was meeting with her physically abusive ex-boyfriend but not a client. We both ended up apologising for our brazen behaviours and resolved the incident amicably.

[hillingdonpete]

Update:

Dirtydoll ended up getting in touch with me to set things right in the end and I managed to return her possessions she left behind from the evening of the meet. The evening went on to be a disaster due to a combination of us both consuming too much alcohol to think straight and that her driver thought she was meeting with her physically abusive ex-boyfriend but not a client. We both ended up apologising for our brazen behaviours and resolved the incident amicably.

A happy ending for the fairy tale.

[winkywanky]

Update:

Dirtydoll ended up getting in touch with me to set things right in the end and I managed to return her possessions she left behind from the evening of the meet. The evening went on to be a disaster due to a combination of us both consuming too much alcohol to think straight and that her driver thought she was meeting with her physically abusive ex-boyfriend but not a client. We both ended up apologising for our brazen behaviours and resolved the incident amicably.

You didn't really mention that in your post although that would to a large extent explain the goings-on. How on earth did her driver come to think she was meeting with her ex-bf if she was on a gig?

Anyway, all's well that ends well.

[Brazilian Martian]

Update:

Dirtydoll ended up getting in touch with me to set things right in the end and I managed to return her possessions she left behind from the evening of the meet. The evening went on to be a disaster due to a combination of us both consuming too much alcohol to think straight and that her driver thought she was meeting with her physically abusive ex-boyfriend but not a client. We both ended up apologising for our brazen behaviours and resolved the incident amicably.

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[OutForJustice80]

Update:

Dirtydoll ended up getting in touch with me to set things right in the end and I managed to return her possessions she left behind from the evening of the meet. The evening went on to be a disaster due to a combination of us both consuming too much alcohol to think straight and that her driver thought she was meeting with her physically abusive ex-boyfriend but not a client. We both ended up apologising for our brazen behaviours and resolved the incident amicably.

Congrats on your banning you deluded shitwhistler.

[winkywanky]

Banned reason: Wanting scam warning he posted deleted but when refused by Admin proceeded to make up bullshit.

All becomes clear...

[lewisjones23]

the easier thing to do with these types of threads is just call bullshit straight away

end up right 99/100 anyway