Blacklisted on AW , and genuinely no idea why/how. Help appreciated.

[Alwayswhoreney]

Dear Gents,

I don’t punt very often, and not at all in 20/21 , but looking to get back in the saddle so to speak.

A couple of weeks ago, I tried contacting a SP in my area by phone, but it automatically went to ‘number busy’. Tried again on the hour and half hour a couple of times, based on likely client brakes, same story.
I just figured she was a popular lass, and sent an AW email asking when was best to contact her. She deleted it without answering.
I took the hint, and guessed she wasn’t interested. C’est la vie

Fast forward to this morning, and I’ve got some time, so I contact a touring SP that looks good, it goes to voicemail, so I send a text asking her to message me when she’s free to talk (stipulates must have phone call before booking), so I can call her.
Get a reply, ‘you can put in a booking on AW x’

Fair enough, so I do so.

She then rejects the booking with a message ‘I’ve seen the warning report against your number, and was just calling your bluff, you unpleasant manipulative man’.

I reply, politely, that I’ve done nothing wrong to anyone, and have only positive feedback (both true), and she deleted it unread 

So now it seems my AW profile is flagged, and I genuinely haven’t had any issues with anyone that I know of.

Is there anyway of finding out what I’m accused of, or protesting the complaint!?

Really appreciate any advice.

[Moby Dick]

How do you know it’s AW?
Your number may be on uglymugs, client eye, SAAFE, or other.

Do a search on your number,  but looks like you are going to have to change it.
You do have a punting phone?

[lillythesavage]

If your AW account is working it is not blacklisted, but there must be reports against your number on the warning sites SP,s use and your AW user name mentioned in the reports.

Search your phone number and see what you can find, you can change your number but it will not stop your AW being listed as a wrong un.

I guess you can try contacting the sites where the reports are if you find them 

[Alwayswhoreney]

A search for that number comes up with zero hits on google or Firefox 

I don’t know that it’s AW, I merely presumed, since it’s the only medium I interact through. I’ve not heard of any of those other sites listed above.

[Moby Dick]

Change your sim.
Change your AW profile name.
Don’t contact anyone else on AW using your “dodgy” number.

You may never find out what has been accused.
SPs use private messaging, WhatsApp etc etc to share information.

[Steely Dan]

If you go on Hushed you can have a new number in 5 minutes without leaving your chair.

[Alwayswhoreney]

Yeah, I guess that’s what I’ll have to do, I just feel angry that someone has randomly inconvenienced me, with genuinely no good reason.
But I guess it is what it is 

Thanks to all responders 

[scutty brown]

A search for that number comes up with zero hits on google or Firefox 

I don’t know that it’s AW, I merely presumed, since it’s the only medium I interact through. I’ve not heard of any of those other sites listed above.

uglymugs and clienteye are not indexed by the search engines, while SAAFE never post the full number

[signy]

You have my sympathy PO. This sort of nonsense is one of the things that might make me reconsider punting as a hobby.

I suspect that the easiest thing in the long run will be to get a new email address, a new phone number, a new AW username and start again from scratch. Your old AW feedback is too old to be of much value to you, so you won't lose much there.

I do note that you have one negative review on here (I don't know if you also did a -ve on AW for this SP), but that would seem the most likely source of your problem. Especially if your AW and UKP usernames are similar, or you otherwise left yourself open to cross-identification. If so, be more careful next time round. With some SPs, it doesn't take a lot to make them start claiming all sorts of stuff just because you called them out on bad service.

[sensualencounter]

Of course the OP could be a proper wrong 'un and could be correctly blacklisted?

[JonasG]

Annoying but yeah new AW and new number. No big issue.

I mean most escorts you can book just off your phone, so really the new number is the main issue here as 99% of WGs you just ring or text. Get that and you'll be fine.

[Waterhouse]

Of course the OP could be a proper wrong 'un and could be correctly blacklisted?

I wondered the same… Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire.

[southcoastpunter]

Of course the OP could be a proper wrong 'un and could be correctly blacklisted?

we tend to always think it must be the WG who is at fault - but you could be right or somewhere inbetween - maybe he (say) pressed a bit hard on her throat as he likes a bit of rough sex but she didn't? it could be anything - or just a plain mistake. we will never know! But without anything to go on, surely we give the benefit of any doubt to the punter?

[Atlas1957]

Of course the OP could be a proper wrong 'un and could be correctly blacklisted?

That is of course the problem with secret blacklists.

[Atrueyorkie]

‘I’ve seen the warning report against your number, and was just calling your bluff, you unpleasant manipulative man’.

Sounds like you’ve got a report against you. And it sounds like it’s widely circulated by the quote referenced above.

No offence but the amount of disgust that almost oozes out from the quoted reference makes it seem you’ve got a “detailed” report against you. Like mentioned I’d like to give you the benefit of doubt, I’m intrigued what was written against you as it definitely sounds like you’ve been painted like scum.

No point really asking what you’ve “potentially” done as I doubt you’d mention anything that would self burn you or the other side where you genuinely haven’t done anything intentionally bad so can’t recall 

One thing is evident, you need to change your punting number as a bare minimum and I guess a new AW account as instantly deleted emails means yes your blocked. From my understanding.

Start anew.

Tread carefully because you’ve “potentially” done something even if you think it was harmless or someone has slandered you. Probably a description of your appearance in there too.

OP what did you do? 

[Moby Dick]

No smoke without fire.

However maybe an SP has typed a number in wrong, or an SP has mixed numbers up between two punters,

Or indeed the OP is an “unpleasant manipulative man”.

If it was me I would be asking her where she is getting her information (difficult due to being blocked) and checking the usual SP sites as mentioned above.

Disposable SIM card and change AW name.
No need to start a new AW profile unless OP intends to contact a previous contact who may link old number to his AW account number.
Normally changing the AW username is enough unless OP has bad or very identifiable feedback.

[Alwayswhoreney]

Of course the OP could be a proper wrong 'un and could be correctly blacklisted?

I have been wracking my brains, and the only thing I can think of, is that I made an AW booking with an SP early this year, based on her likes list, then in the phone call confirmation on the morning, I clarified with her that DFK was included. She then said she didn’t offer kissing on the mouth. I queried this, as it was on her ‘likes’ , she said it wasn’t.
It definitely was on the day before, because it’s a non negotiable for me, so never would have booked otherwise.
I apologised for ‘my’ error , didn’t argue the point, but respectfully cancelled our arrangement (90 minutes notice).
She seemed really pissed off and hung up on me.

That’s literally the only negativity I’ve experienced from an SP.
I don’t do ‘rough’ , I don’t bareback, I don’t try and sneak a stealth CIM, I mean 2 girls I’ve met, I still keep in touch with socially 🤷‍♂️

I’m no angel, I mean, I like fucking escorts  but I’ve never acted a twat with any of them.

[tp69]

Post your number here and let one of the WG's on here elucidate you/us. You have to change your number anyway but it may clear it up.

[Bornslippy]

shouldn't worry too much fella. some of these girls can be (deleted word) nasty

[Moby Dick]

Post your number here and let one of the WG's on here elucidate you/us. You have to change your number anyway but it may clear it up.

+1
The safety conscious SPs who have already blocked him have probably now worked out his UKP name from the posts above.
What more can he possibly give away?

[daviemac]

Post your number here and let one of the WG's on here elucidate you/us. You have to change your number anyway but it may clear it up.

+1
The safety conscious SPs who have already blocked him have probably now worked out his UKP name from the posts above.
What more can he possibly give away?

A member's personal information is not getting posted on here.

[Moby Dick]

 

A member's personal information is not getting posted on here.

[mexicola]

Reading the description in the OP I would think its most likely your phone number has a mark against it on Clienteye.

We know that AW no longer has the client notes which WGs used to make secret notes and share info  about punters.

The "call you bluff" would suggest she knew your phone number was bad, hence to put in a booking request. The OP makes mention of number, not name or username. 

I'm guessing when OP put the booking request in he made mention of his phone number (either his predefined settings) or in the message and the WG has twigged who the sender was. She may well have updated Clienteye's App to link his AW username and mobile number after her sting operation.

[signy]

... 2 girls I’ve met, I still keep in touch with socially 🤷‍♂️

In that case, get one of them to run a search on you. It might be a bit embarrassing when she reads what has been said about you, but if you are really friends, then she will have a better idea as to the truth.

[Alwayswhoreney]

In that case, get one of them to run a search on you. It might be a bit embarrassing when she reads what has been said about you, but if you are really friends, then she will have a better idea as to the truth.

Yeah, I’ll do that.

[bristolnick]

Client eye is a bit strange. It said there was one 1 report against my name and also one against email address i created 2 days ago.

[daviemac]

Client eye is a bit strange. It said there was one 1 report against my name and also one against email address i created 2 days ago.

Unless you are registered and verified as an SP all phone numbers you put in show 1 report.  At one time punters could search for their own number and see all the reports but thanks to a thread on here they closed all the loopholes. They were watching the thread and every time a workaround was mentioned they altered the site to close it. 

[bristolnick]

Unless you are registered and verified as an SP all phone numbers you put in show 1 report.  At one time punters could search for their own number and see all the reports but thanks to a thread on here they closed all the loopholes. They were watching the thread and every time a workaround was mentioned they altered the site to close it. 

Thanks for letting me know that.

[sim0256]

Daviemac,thanks. For no real reason I did a number search for my phone on Clienteye and got the one report reply. My reg SP said to ignore it when I asked her to look it up. Maybe she knew the one report situation.