Let’s have a punting strike !

[mrfishyfoo]

Yep. But he's not hard up a sexy woman's pussy.

You're mean MrAK !!! 

[Guesswork]

Ok, the strike thing is a bit of a daft comment but most on my hot list have gone up in price to be fair.

Thought it was a last minute push for Christmas cash, but the prices have stuck.

Whether you can afford it or not, the service hasn't improved so the VFM has gone down. It's up to the individual if that is acceptable enough to keep punting.

Personally I have a feeling I'm going to get a bit bitter if I have a boring punt that used to be £20 an hour cheaper, but again, that's individual choice.

[mrfishyfoo]

Ok, the strike thing is a bit of a daft comment but most on my hot list have gone up in price to be fair.

Thought it was a last minute push for Christmas cash, but the prices have stuck.

Whether you can afford it or not, the service hasn't improved so the VFM has gone down. It's up to the individual if that is acceptable enough to keep punting.

Personally I have a feeling I'm going to get a bit bitter if I have a boring punt that used to be £20 an hour cheaper, but again, that's individual choice.

FUCK THAT !!! 

Issue a red card and them go fuck an unknown.

GOOD LUCK. 

[king tarzan]

Well looks like you are on review strike or are you already on a punting strike?

Can you go on a shit-stirring strike? 

Possible or NOT POSSIBLE?

[Ali Katt]

You're mean MrAK !!! 

Someone has to be the bad guy after all.

[mrfishyfoo]

Someone has to be the bad guy after all.

Ha !! Ha !! 

[Guesswork]

FUCK THAT !!! 

Issue a red card and them go fuck an unknown.

GOOD LUCK. 

You're possibly right, I do need to get the buzz back again. Finding that I'm getting a bit bored with boring fucking.

Still enjoy massages, so maybe that's my true calling, lol

[Home Alone]

You're possibly right, I do need to get the buzz back again. Finding that I'm getting a bit bored with boring fucking.

Still enjoy massages, so maybe that's my true calling, lol

Or do you feel, Guesswork, as I did for much of last year, that you're in a rut?

My last Regular had retired and I was finding it difficult to replace her. I'd begun to think that the time had come for me to finish punting and get a pastime more appropriate for a 72-year-old. The smug satisfaction I had from being fairly certain that I had a better sex life than most of my friends from schooldays & being at College wasn't the motivation it once had been.

But there were still some punting services I'd not had before, and I didn't want to go to my cremation never having experienced. So what I did was step out of my comfort zone.  Instead of GFE with mid to late-40s [Stated Age!    ] Milfs, I went back to my '2c list' & booked a session with a lass a good 10 years younger.

I've already 'ticked' one of the boxes on what I call my 'Fucket List' - did you see what I did there?! - and will have ticked another by the end of next month.

Believe me, the buzz has come back big time!

[Guesswork]

I'll bet it has, 72? Fair play there 

I'm knocking 40 but same sort of thing, started for fun and tick a few off the 'fucket list'. Kind of done most continents I'm interested in (an elusive indian is about all that's left) but I'm just a bit jaded with it. Probably should have paced myself a bit better.

I think I was looking for a way out TBH and maybe the price hike has done me a favour. If I can get myself away from massages I might have some money back in my wallet for the first time in a year

[Gordon Bennett]

I always justify any selfish or extravagant expenditure by reminding myself I don't smoke. Isn't a pack of fags a tenner now? My logic is I've saved nearly £300 a month by not having a puff so having a punt every few months I'm well in credit, it's like they are cost neutral.

[SlamBoy]

. . . I've saved nearly £300 a month by not having a puff . . .

Ooooh Errrrr Mrs! 

[tazz]

Imagine trying to get around 2 million guys to all go on strike over prossie prices. Its not as it we can all form a union and protest in the streets. Also try getting rich and the super rich to strike, more chance of getting blood out of a stone.

[Jamesssssss]

I think if we go on strike wgs prices will drop substantially plus your Mrs will find out

[TailSeeker]

Ok, the strike thing is a bit of a daft comment but most on my hot list have gone up in price to be fair.

Thought it was a last minute push for Christmas cash, but the prices have stuck.

Whether you can afford it or not, the service hasn't improved so the VFM has gone down. It's up to the individual if that is acceptable enough to keep punting.

Personally I have a feeling I'm going to get a bit bitter if I have a boring punt that used to be £20 an hour cheaper, but again, that's individual choice.

Prices do go up where the economy allows it. Plus demand. I've upped mine for new comers. It's probably best to get in with an established escort who isn't changing their prices in your area, or try a new comer who will be cheaper. Prices go up, that's the reality of everything, from milk, eggs, to housing and train travel, why should escorts be different?

But at the end of the day, if you can't afford the price of who you want, you have to flex, either pick someone else, choose a shorter time, or pay to put up an RB, might yield some diamonds among the rest.

[Guesswork]

Prices do go up where the economy allows it. Plus demand. I've upped mine for new comers. It's probably best to get in with an established escort who isn't changing their prices in your area, or try a new comer who will be cheaper. Prices go up, that's the reality of everything, from milk, eggs, to housing and train travel, why should escorts be different?

But at the end of the day, if you can't afford the price of who you want, you have to flex, either pick someone else, choose a shorter time, or pay to put up an RB, might yield some diamonds among the rest.

All good advice and I do agree with some of your points.

What I would say is prices of services (not punting services, lol) go up generally with an improvement to that service. If a punting service goes up in price but the quality of that service remains the same it's just not VFM anymore. And as this is a business transaction at it's core, it won't take long for a some girls to get quiet.

Plus, why has 2019 been decided to be the time prices go up? The economy is hardly supporting it surely? I know a lot of people has profited out of this current turmoil but I imagine they're hardly the type to be looking at £100 ph escorts to be honest.

[Ali Katt]

All good advice and I do agree with some of your points.

What I would say is prices of services (not punting services, lol) go up generally with an improvement to that service. If a punting service goes up in price but the quality of that service remains the same it's just not VFM anymore. And as this is a business transaction at it's core, it won't take long for a some girls to get quiet.

Plus, why has 2019 been decided to be the time prices go up? The economy is hardly supporting it surely? I know a lot of people has profited out of this current turmoil but I imagine they're hardly the type to be looking at £100 ph escorts to be honest.

Prices fluctuate all the time, going back 10 years it was incredibly hard for me to find a decent escort under £120. Now I see very few girls over £100 and the ones I see over that price are what I call good girls. I wouldn't see an unreviewed Polish girl at that price for example.

[Home Alone]

What I don't think we've seen - so far - this year is the idea of 'Winter sales'.

A couple of years ago, there were quite a few SPs offering, say, £20 off their hour's charge. I remember going to see Carla 36GG in February 2017 because she offered that sort of discount. I commented about it later to another Escort, who told me that quite a few of them did that at the start of a new year so they had the cash to clear Christmas credit card bills.

Incidentally, I notice that Zoe of Manchester  - External Link/Members Only - has an sentence on her Profile pointing out that, although she's increased her prices, it's the first increase in the 8 years since she went independent. I thought it interesting that someone as popular as she is felt the need to put that sort of explanation.

[Ortame]

Thinking about setting up a GoFundMe page for OP.

Either that or writing to my local MP to make punting Tax free. WGs pays tax right?

[Ali Katt]

What I don't think we've seen - so far - this year is the idea of 'Winter sales'.

A couple of years ago, there were quite a few SPs offering, say, £20 off their hour's charge. I remember going to see Carla 36GG in February 2017 because she offered that sort of discount. I commented about it later to another Escort, who told me that quite a few of them did that at the start of a new year so they had the cash to clear Christmas credit card bills.

Incidentally, I notice that Zoe of Manchester  - External Link/Members Only - has an sentence on her Profile pointing out that, although she's increased her prices, it's the first increase in the 8 years since she went independent. I thought it interesting that someone as popular as she is felt the need to put that sort of explanation.

The thing is it could put off a lot of potential customers as well as regulars and maybe she felt the need to explain.

[Kikibear]

I don't think people comprehend how much some punters make. One SP I used to see regularly had clients who had the same 2 hour long appointment every day which is something that most of us here could never afford. There are men out there who make £5m a year and to them dropping £300 on a prossie every day is a drop in the ocean and we are unlikely to ever hear from them on this forum because they have no interest in vfm 

[magnetico]

There are men out there who make £5m a year and to them dropping £300 on a prossie every day is a drop in the ocean

There's far far far less super-rich than middle-class punters in London 

[TailSeeker]

All good advice and I do agree with some of your points.

What I would say is prices of services (not punting services, lol) go up generally with an improvement to that service. If a punting service goes up in price but the quality of that service remains the same it's just not VFM anymore. And as this is a business transaction at it's core, it won't take long for a some girls to get quiet.

Plus, why has 2019 been decided to be the time prices go up? The economy is hardly supporting it surely? I know a lot of people has profited out of this current turmoil but I imagine they're hardly the type to be looking at £100 ph escorts to be honest.

There will certainly be some WGs who experience a drop in interest, some who get an upping. I think it very much depends on their area, appearance, and services they offer. Also how many people they want to see, and how long they've been working and ergo the reputation they've earnt.

There are also punters who won't see a WG unless they charge a certain amount, which I guess is similar to people who won't buy shoes/clothes/etc unless they cost so much. I guess it's for status, but it mostly comes off as more money than sense. (I say this being mid priced for London, but would be viewed as extortionate in Scotland or the Midlands).

I don't know other WG's business models, I know mine, which may vary quite significantly from others. So I can't speak to their motivation or behaviour, or what they're seeing. Only theorise.

What you do also have to realise, is while your top price may be £100/hr, for many it is higher, and for many it is lower. Certainly in London £100/hr (in my area) isn't that common, elsewhere it is more common. You either choose different WGs or punt less often. They're really the two areas of flex. Or try an RB, certainly some have found WGs they like for less using that.

[Ali Katt]

There will certainly be some WGs who experience a drop in interest, some who get an upping. I think it very much depends on their area, appearance, and services they offer. Also how many people they want to see, and how long they've been working and ergo the reputation they've earnt.

There are also punters who won't see a WG unless they charge a certain amount, which I guess is similar to people who won't buy shoes/clothes/etc unless they cost so much. I guess it's for status, but it mostly comes off as more money than sense. (I say this being mid priced for London, but would be viewed as extortionate in Scotland or the Midlands).

I don't know other WG's business models, I know mine, which may vary quite significantly from others. So I can't speak to their motivation or behaviour, or what they're seeing. Only theorise.

What you do also have to realise, is while your top price may be £100/hr, for many it is higher, and for many it is lower. Certainly in London £100/hr (in my area) isn't that common, elsewhere it is more common. You either choose different WGs or punt less often. They're really the two areas of flex. Or try an RB, certainly some have found WGs they like for less using that.

I would say the huge difference is you specialise and have built up a reputation. It might be different for London, but I don't think many would risk say £150 on a new girl with no feedback or reviews.

[TailSeeker]

I would say the huge difference is you specialise and have built up a reputation. It might be different for London, but I don't think many would risk say £150 on a new girl with no feedback or reviews.

In London I think it is sort of expected that a new girl will start on £150/hr, outside more £120/hr. I started on £150/hr but also used to offer half hours, however I did look at what others charged in my area, at my age, for my services, with similar sizing. Then looked at how long they had been working. Less than when I was cruising bars, more than working in dungeons.

It may be that some aren't doing that research. Many just want to drop in at the high end without doing any of the work proving they're worth it. Which may work for some, but likely not as much as they want.

[Cuntminion]

Load of old bollocks

I'm not on executive wages but manage a punt here and there

You don't have to punt every month

You can every other month, every qaurter etc

Even if you banged £50 away a month to punt you could get a decent sp every two or three montgs

[Cuntminion]

Shall we all go homeless until house prices reduce as well?

To be fair if everyone quit renting and fucked off their properties and formed a homeless huddle property prices would drop overnight

Whereas if no cunt punted and selling vagina dropped to a shit rate escorts would look for other work not charge £7.50 an hour

[Ali Katt]

To be fair if everyone quit renting and fucked off their properties and formed a homeless huddle property prices would drop overnight

Whereas if no cunt punted and selling vagina dropped to a shit rate escorts would look for other work not charge £7.50 an hour

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but how many on here are paying £300 an hour? I suspect very few, if any. What I do suspect is those that charge that genuinely see one man a week unless they are a known pornstar.

[Spiceoflife]

A more achievable option is to collectively refuse to pay over a certain amount. However it's complicated as regional rates vary plus it depends on services offered.
The way it stands is that if a girl puts up her prices past my max then I won't see her. Simple as that. If more did the same then unreasonably high prices might come down.

[Guesswork]

or pay to put up an RB, might yield some diamonds among the rest.

Just re read your post, never tried this before. Could well be worth a try, something different I guess

[mrfishyfoo]

A more achievable option is to collectively refuse to pay over a certain amount. However it's complicated as regional rates vary plus it depends on services offered.
The way it stands is that if a girl puts up her prices past my max then I won't see her. Simple as that. If more did the same then unreasonably high prices might come down.

Been here how long....and only done 3 reviews. 

You're lack of punting is really going to have a huge impact ain't it. 

[tazz]

I don't think people comprehend how much some punters make. One SP I used to see regularly had clients who had the same 2 hour long appointment every day which is something that most of us here could never afford. There are men out there who make £5m a year and to them dropping £300 on a prossie every day is a drop in the ocean and we are unlikely to ever hear from them on this forum because they have no interest in vfm 

One polish prossie i used to see in central london who was making stupid money given her popularity had a client who would see her twice a day daily. Talk about a dog on heat.

[Ali Katt]

One polish prossie i used to see in central london who was making stupid money given her popularity had a client who would see her twice a day daily. Talk about a dog on heat.

Talk about cumming dust.

[Urban_G]

Slowly but surely the girls are increasing prices.! They are just too expensive for the average man on minimum wage. Why don’t we all just go on strike and use no one until prices reduce. Average girls charging£70 for 30 minutes is far too expensive when you are on £8 an hour!! I visited my first escort this week and review to follow. Was ok but over  a days pay for a bj and shag is far too much.

1 punt under your belt and you want to go on strike already?

Would you start a new job and strike over pay after your first day? Maybe you should if you earn minimum wage, then when the government raise it you can return to punting.

[mavic82]

I can understand both sides, but I have somehow to agree with the OP.

Some people say they can afford it and seem to be happy to pay current market prices, but I think this view misses the point of "value for money".

I make over 3k per month after taxes and pension scheme and live in a relatively cheap place of UK, so I save well over half of my net income every month. I could afford to pay 20 quid for a banana yet I would never pay 20 quid for a banana because it's simply an expensive, inflated price for what it is. For the same reason I never pay those ridiculous prices girls in UK have set. The few times I have used escorts in UK I have paid £40 per 15 minutes, which I think it's already high. I don't know guys how much you have traveled the world but UK prices are simply ridiculous, and I'm not talking about punting in 3rd world countries. You can get sex for half hour in any red light district in Germany with hot young girls for just 40€. If we go back in time, you would be surprised to know that in the times of the Roman Empire the prices of a hooker was the same as the price of a cup of wine. Today escorts make in one day of work what the average worker makes in one or two weeks, or even more...

Why are we paying these prices today? The answer is: hypergamy. Women always want in a man more than they offer. They will never accept a man shorter than them and ideally will target a man that is (way) taller than them. If they have a university degree, they won't accept a man without a degree and will ideally target someone with a masters degree. If they have a car, they won't accept a man with no car or a car cheaper than hers. If they make X every month, their partner will have to make more. And so on... In summary: women have unrealistic expectations since 80% of the female population have requirements for their partners than probably less than 10% of the male population can meet. The result is that most men refuse to go through stupid female expectations and requirements and simply use prostitutes to satisfy their natural needs. This means that for every prostitute there are tens or even hundreds of potential clients and consequently prices increase to ridiculous levels. As women become more "empowered" (in other words, they think they deserve more and more in return for offering simply nothing), the demand for prostitution increases and so do the prices.

I'm not British but I have been living in the UK as a single guy for nearly a decade now. One of the first things that shocked me was to find out that 15 minutes of sex with a ridiculously fat, old and/or unattractive girls was more expensive that half hour with a smoking hot girl in her early 20s in other countries such as Germany (which is no exactly a poor country...). At that time is was still possible to find 15 minutes/£30 and 30 minutes/£60, mostly Romanian girls and girls from Eastern or central Europe. Nowadays, the same girls charge £50 per 15 mins and £70 per half hour. The most common price for half hour being £80 and even £100 (even in fat and unattractive girls). This is simply ridiculous... It can be cheaper to buy a weekend ticket with a low-cost airline to other European countries, cheap accommodation plus girls prices in other countries and still save money (get it cheaper than the same number of girls and time in UK, and with more beautiful girls).

The roots of this problem are deeper but I know this is not a place for discussion about topics on sociology.

In summary: UK prices are ridiculous and I refuse to pay these ridiculous prices. I'd rather jerk off.

[jamesdean1964]

If we go back in time, you would be surprised to know that in the times of the Roman Empire the prices of a hooker was the same as the price of a cup of wine.

I always wondered why people spoke so glowingly about the good old days.  Now I know.

[jamesdean1964]

All good advice and I do agree with some of your points.

What I would say is prices of services (not punting services, lol) go up generally with an improvement to that service.

I generally find that the quality of service at my local Asda or Esso garage remains the same after a price rise.

[horneyboy]

If you can’t afford it don’t do it!!!

Mate no brainer 10 pound per week over 52 weeks gets you 7 half hour bookings a year .

[Ali Katt]

I always wondered why people spoke so glowingly about the good old days.  Now I know.

Roman Blowjobs must have got their name somehow.

[Helloyou75001]

I can understand both sides, but I have somehow to agree with the OP.

Some people say they can afford it and seem to be happy to pay current market prices, but I think this view misses the point of "value for money".

I make over 3k per month after taxes and pension scheme and live in a relatively cheap place of UK, so I save well over half of my net income every month. I could afford to pay 20 quid for a banana yet I would never pay 20 quid for a banana because it's simply an expensive, inflated price for what it is. For the same reason I never pay those ridiculous prices girls in UK have set. The few times I have used escorts in UK I have paid £40 per 15 minutes, which I think it's already high. I don't know guys how much you have traveled the world but UK prices are simply ridiculous, and I'm not talking about punting in 3rd world countries. You can get sex for half hour in any red light district in Germany with hot young girls for just 40€. If we go back in time, you would be surprised to know that in the times of the Roman Empire the prices of a hooker was the same as the price of a cup of wine. Today escorts make in one day of work what the average worker makes in one or two weeks, or even more...

Why are we paying these prices today? The answer is: hypergamy. Women always want in a man more than they offer. They will never accept a man shorter than them and ideally will target a man that is (way) taller than them. If they have a university degree, they won't accept a man without a degree and will ideally target someone with a masters degree. If they have a car, they won't accept a man with no car or a car cheaper than hers. If they make X every month, their partner will have to make more. And so on... In summary: women have unrealistic expectations since 80% of the female population have requirements for their partners than probably less than 10% of the male population can meet. The result is that most men refuse to go through stupid female expectations and requirements and simply use prostitutes to satisfy their natural needs. This means that for every prostitute there are tens or even hundreds of potential clients and consequently prices increase to ridiculous levels. As women become more "empowered" (in other words, they think they deserve more and more in return for offering simply nothing), the demand for prostitution increases and so do the prices.

I'm not British but I have been living in the UK as a single guy for nearly a decade now. One of the first things that shocked me was to find out that 15 minutes of sex with a ridiculously fat, old and/or unattractive girls was more expensive that half hour with a smoking hot girl in her early 20s in other countries such as Germany (which is no exactly a poor country...). At that time is was still possible to find 15 minutes/£30 and 30 minutes/£60, mostly Romanian girls and girls from Eastern or central Europe. Nowadays, the same girls charge £50 per 15 mins and £70 per half hour. The most common price for half hour being £80 and even £100 (even in fat and unattractive girls). This is simply ridiculous... It can be cheaper to buy a weekend ticket with a low-cost airline to other European countries, cheap accommodation plus girls prices in other countries and still save money (get it cheaper than the same number of girls and time in UK, and with more beautiful girls).

The roots of this problem are deeper but I know this is not a place for discussion about topics on sociology.

In summary: UK prices are ridiculous and I refuse to pay these ridiculous prices. I'd rather jerk off.

Why don t you move to cheaper place like germany?

[king tarzan]

It's simple

Afford it Go
can't afford it DON'T GO

simpletto!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

[marlboro20]

Damn good thread with some interesting points... and I emphasize some. The comments regarding paying very expensive prices in a restaurant and buying top designer clothes being a bit of an ego trip are pretty much true I think. I'm pretty well heeled and I've enjoyed superb meals at £40 and wear £80 jeans.... can't fault either and very fit for purpose.  Like Cue my ceiling's £120ph for R & R time... and most times it's with a regular I've got to know well... plus an occasional venture for variety 

[RadioKid]

To be fair I've pretty much cut down to zero anyway due to health issues.

Apart from the odd massage which I review in the odd thread, I can't say I miss it much and the bank account has certainly started to look a lot healthier lol. So yeah, that certainly says something about the price of a punt.

[Ali Katt]

Damn good thread with some interesting points... and I emphasize some. The comments regarding paying very expensive prices in a restaurant and buying top designer clothes being a bit of an ego trip are pretty much true I think. I'm pretty well heeled and I've enjoyed superb meals at £40 and wear £80 jeans.... can't fault either and very fit for purpose.  Like Cue my ceiling's £120ph for R & R time... and most times it's with a regular I've got to know well... plus an occasional venture for variety 

£80 isn't expensive for a pair of jeans. There's very little choice under say £50 - much like 30 minute punts.

[mrfishyfoo]

£80 isn't expensive for a pair of jeans. There's very little choice under say £50 - much like 30 minute punts.

I just paid £16 from Tesco.

Hmmm about that £16 punt. 

[TailSeeker]

I can understand both sides, but I have somehow to agree with the OP.

Some people say they can afford it and seem to be happy to pay current market prices, but I think this view misses the point of "value for money".

I make over 3k per month after taxes and pension scheme and live in a relatively cheap place of UK, so I save well over half of my net income every month. I could afford to pay 20 quid for a banana yet I would never pay 20 quid for a banana because it's simply an expensive, inflated price for what it is. For the same reason I never pay those ridiculous prices girls in UK have set. The few times I have used escorts in UK I have paid £40 per 15 minutes, which I think it's already high. I don't know guys how much you have traveled the world but UK prices are simply ridiculous, and I'm not talking about punting in 3rd world countries. You can get sex for half hour in any red light district in Germany with hot young girls for just 40€. If we go back in time, you would be surprised to know that in the times of the Roman Empire the prices of a hooker was the same as the price of a cup of wine. Today escorts make in one day of work what the average worker makes in one or two weeks, or even more...

Why are we paying these prices today? The answer is: hypergamy. Women always want in a man more than they offer. They will never accept a man shorter than them and ideally will target a man that is (way) taller than them. If they have a university degree, they won't accept a man without a degree and will ideally target someone with a masters degree. If they have a car, they won't accept a man with no car or a car cheaper than hers. If they make X every month, their partner will have to make more. And so on... In summary: women have unrealistic expectations since 80% of the female population have requirements for their partners than probably less than 10% of the male population can meet. The result is that most men refuse to go through stupid female expectations and requirements and simply use prostitutes to satisfy their natural needs. This means that for every prostitute there are tens or even hundreds of potential clients and consequently prices increase to ridiculous levels. As women become more "empowered" (in other words, they think they deserve more and more in return for offering simply nothing), the demand for prostitution increases and so do the prices.

I'm not British but I have been living in the UK as a single guy for nearly a decade now. One of the first things that shocked me was to find out that 15 minutes of sex with a ridiculously fat, old and/or unattractive girls was more expensive that half hour with a smoking hot girl in her early 20s in other countries such as Germany (which is no exactly a poor country...). At that time is was still possible to find 15 minutes/£30 and 30 minutes/£60, mostly Romanian girls and girls from Eastern or central Europe. Nowadays, the same girls charge £50 per 15 mins and £70 per half hour. The most common price for half hour being £80 and even £100 (even in fat and unattractive girls). This is simply ridiculous... It can be cheaper to buy a weekend ticket with a low-cost airline to other European countries, cheap accommodation plus girls prices in other countries and still save money (get it cheaper than the same number of girls and time in UK, and with more beautiful girls).

The roots of this problem are deeper but I know this is not a place for discussion about topics on sociology.

In summary: UK prices are ridiculous and I refuse to pay these ridiculous prices. I'd rather jerk off.

Then stick to Germany.

And the whole idea of hypergamy is full of fallacies, when it comes to education and income these are falling down as gender balances change. Women are slowingly increasing being the breadwinners in families (about 30% of heterosexual couples in the US had the woman as the higher earner and similar trends are seen in the UK).

Women won't date men shorter than them - how many men want to date a woman taller than them? There are some, but not that many from both genders, likely due to societal pressures (tall woman short man couples are treated as oddities by many).

There are so many flaws in the argument, men can be just as demanding, but their priorities can be different. Not always, but often.

[Ali Katt]

Then stick to Germany.

And the whole idea of hypergamy is full of fallacies, when it comes to education and income these are falling down as gender balances change. Women are slowingly increasing being the breadwinners in families (about 30% of heterosexual couples in the US had the woman as the higher earner and similar trends are seen in the UK).

Women won't date men shorter than them - how many men want to date a woman taller than them? There are some, but not that many from both genders, likely due to societal pressures (tall woman short man couples are treated as oddities by many).

There are so many flaws in the argument, men can be just as demanding, but their priorities can be different. Not always, but often.

FFS sounds like Mavic82 really doesn't get it. Like tends to attract like, stupid people (we are talking no qualifications, low double-digit IQ with limited life experience) aren't going to be marrying someone in the MENSA society anytime soon.

I fail to see why men get worked up over stupid shit. Some women find me attractive, some don't it's impossible to guess why you wouldn't be someone's type without asking - if say a woman prefers a man who weighs 18 stone with shoulder length hair and likes musicals - I've got no chance, so what?

The tall man thing is interesting, but there are always exceptions. Fredro Starr, anyone? I personally would happily date someone taller than me, but there's not many women over 6'. It is a dominance thing plain and simple, another weird analogy would be a female body builder we are talking to the level of winning competitions with say a man who is either weak looking or morbidly obese.

Personally, I have a type, but I've broken it before. In terms of actual dating I tend to be more on the sapiosexual side rather than appearance, but there's so many factors that get my interest. With punting my main concern is if we get on. At the end of the day people will pay what they deem reasonable.

[TailSeeker]

FFS sounds like Mavic82 really doesn't get it. Like tends to attract like, stupid people (we are talking no qualifications, low double-digit IQ with limited life experience) aren't going to be marrying someone in the MENSA society anytime soon.

I fail to see why men get worked up over stupid shit. Some women find me attractive, some don't it's impossible to guess why you wouldn't be someone's type without asking - if say a woman prefers a man who weighs 18 stone with shoulder length hair and likes musicals - I've got no chance, so what?

The tall man thing is interesting, but there are always exceptions. Fredro Starr, anyone? I personally would happily date someone taller than me, but there's not many women over 6'. It is a dominance thing plain and simple, another weird analogy would be a female body builder we are talking to the level of winning competitions with say a man who is either weak looking or morbidly obese.

Personally, I have a type, but I've broken it before. In terms of actual dating I tend to be more on the sapiosexual side rather than appearance, but there's so many factors that get my interest. With punting my main concern is if we get on. At the end of the day people will pay what they deem reasonable.

There are plenty of exceptions, Jaime Cullen, Tom Cruise and more.

We do see extremes that we don't always consider. Hugh Jackman with his wife Deborra-Lee Furness, everyone forgets she was much more famous and worth more when they first got together.

I'll certainly agree with breaking type, I don't tend to go for anyone over 5'10, my preference is 5'7/8, but I have dated above 6 foot (and eventually gotten annoyed at how much my neck hurt, I'm only 5'3), and under my height (admittedly that's mostly women. I'll happily have punters over 6 foot, or well under my height.

And I agree, punting is a whole different world to dating, it's very much that men look for what they want, message someone with those attributes, and then hopefully book them. If they can't afford what they want, then they have to be prepared to compromise somewhere, whether on looks, services, or area. The market is what it is. Street solicitation like the red light district has always been less, hell in the UK on the street you can get someone for a fraction of the price of an incall escort, or even a brothel girl. Comparing them isn't fair as they ultimately offer different things.

[Ali Katt]

There are plenty of exceptions, Jaime Cullen, Tom Cruise and more.

We do see extremes that we don't always consider. Hugh Jackman with his wife Deborra-Lee Furness, everyone forgets she was much more famous and worth more when they first got together.

I'll certainly agree with breaking type, I don't tend to go for anyone over 5'10, my preference is 5'7/8, but I have dated above 6 foot (and eventually gotten annoyed at how much my neck hurt, I'm only 5'3), and under my height (admittedly that's mostly women. I'll happily have punters over 6 foot, or well under my height.

And I agree, punting is a whole different world to dating, it's very much that men look for what they want, message someone with those attributes, and then hopefully book them. If they can't afford what they want, then they have to be prepared to compromise somewhere, whether on looks, services, or area. The market is what it is. Street solicitation like the red light district has always been less, hell in the UK on the street you can get someone for a fraction of the price of an incall escort, or even a brothel girl. Comparing them isn't fair as they ultimately offer different things.

I've been out with girls who are barely over 5'. I'm not going to deny it can be difficult to say kiss in public, but it becomes easy when you are both lying down. I can't imagine many being under your height, but I didn't think there would be any on the game over 6'.

In all honesty I stopped going to parlours as I had one crap punt nearly two years ago and on paper they appear better value, but they rarely are. Where I am 30 minutes is £45-£50 on average for basic then it jumps to £65 if it includes OWO and kissing which are never guaranteed, compared to £100-£150 an hour where most things are on offer in the price and the girls actually shower inbetween punters.

I've never done RLD - always seemed a stupid idea. It might be different if I was punting before the mid-2000s and options were limited.

[Malvolio]

I can understand both sides, but I have somehow to agree with the OP.

Some people say they can afford it and seem to be happy to pay current market prices, but I think this view misses the point of "value for money".

I make over 3k per month after taxes and pension scheme and live in a relatively cheap place of UK, so I save well over half of my net income every month. I could afford to pay 20 quid for a banana yet I would never pay 20 quid for a banana because it's simply an expensive, inflated price for what it is. For the same reason I never pay those ridiculous prices girls in UK have set. The few times I have used escorts in UK I have paid £40 per 15 minutes, which I think it's already high. I don't know guys how much you have traveled the world but UK prices are simply ridiculous, and I'm not talking about punting in 3rd world countries. You can get sex for half hour in any red light district in Germany with hot young girls for just 40€. If we go back in time, you would be surprised to know that in the times of the Roman Empire the prices of a hooker was the same as the price of a cup of wine. Today escorts make in one day of work what the average worker makes in one or two weeks, or even more...

I'd say the UK is middling for first world countries when it comes to prices.  Australia and the USA are way more expensive for punting than over here. 

It's also a lot more convenient to phone a WG and have my dick inside her an hour later when I fancy a punt than to book a trip to Germany.

[TailSeeker]

I've been out with girls who are barely over 5'. I'm not going to deny it can be difficult to say kiss in public, but it becomes easy when you are both lying down. I can't imagine many being under your height, but I didn't think there would be any on the game over 6'.

In all honesty I stopped going to parlours as I had one crap punt nearly two years ago and on paper they appear better value, but they rarely are. Where I am 30 minutes is £45-£50 on average for basic then it jumps to £65 if it includes OWO and kissing which are never guaranteed, compared to £100-£150 an hour where most things are on offer in the price and the girls actually shower inbetween punters.

I've never done RLD - always seemed a stupid idea. It might be different if I was punting before the mid-2000s and options were limited.

You would be surprised, I had a lot of options 6 foot plus on dating sites/apps. But men do vastly outnumber women on them, so options are much greater for women. It's something like for every women there is 3 men, or more depending on the site/app. I know over stating of height does happen (survey of OKC showed 2 inches above the average, but then I imagine women do similar about dress size).

As for what people opt for with punting, I think it all comes down to experience and how well they look. Some will have a good time and keep going back, others won't and opt for something different.