I caught an STI

[Gamers]

Hi All,

I saw one escort about 10 days ago and 3 days ago I started noticing pain when urinating and unusual discharge from penis.

Went to GUM / Sexual Health Clinic and got tested for STD and STI.

Doctor confirmed I have STI ( Chlamydia ).

I am on anti biotics now.

No more OWO for me from now on. Stress and worries I have faced in last few days is just too much.

OWO, licking and kissing is just NO NO zone for me from now on.

Guys be safe out there and always use protection.

I am also going for blood test in  2 weeks.

Play safe

Thanks

[aquilla]

Should this escort be named?

[vw]

Should this escort be named?

Nope read the rules. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0

[geordieman]

Gamers - have you contacted the WG to let her know about this so she can get herself checked and treated if required?

[aquilla]

Nope read the rules. 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=1.0

Understood.

[peter purves]

I have been thinking about changing some of my sexual practices...not that I have as of yet.

All the best mate!

[Gamers]

Gamers - have you contacted the WG to let her know about this so she can get herself checked and treated if required?

yea I called her, she was like oh no not me I am always clean and checked, she said I must have got it from some where else.
But she was polite and not rude.

Any way I have informed her and I hope she will do some thing about it.

[Gamers]

I have been thinking about changing some of my sexual practices...not that I have as of yet.

All the best mate!

yea prob good idea.

But for me for sure full stop to OWO, licking and Kissing.

[S.X. MacHine]

Disappointing to hear the WG's response; denial is not a helpful state to be in under the circumstances. Perhaps she asymptomatic. I knew one lass who caught gonorrhea which was only picked up at a routine check up. So she told me.

[vw]

Disappointing to hear the WG's response; denial is not a helpful state to be in under the circumstances. Perhaps she asymptomatic. I knew one lass who caught gonorrhea which was only picked up at a routine check up. So she told me.

Many gum clinics dont offer oral swabs ny default, so girls think they are all clear due to ignorance.   

[EnglishRebecca121]

Many gum clinics dont offer oral swabs ny default, so girls think they are all clear due to ignorance.

indeed il admit my 1st year of escorting during my sti check ups i didnt even think about the oral swab and had no idea about oral dieseases!

[TailSeeker]

Many gum clinics dont offer oral swabs ny default, so girls think they are all clear due to ignorance.

They'll offer what people state their at risk for. I go to a specific sex workers clinic, and they swab all, one for the mouth, one for the pussy, one for the arse. Plus the blood vials.

I've even had my eyes swabbed, which is one of the most unpleasant things I've experienced. But important to do occasionally if you allow facials, not for risk to others, but to ensure I don't have anything and go blind.

If you're going to a normal clinic and not disclosing that you're an escort/see escorts, you'll often get a shorter list of tests done. Which is silly as doctors/nurses have legal obligations not to disclose patient's private information. You can also give fake names, not provide your GP information, everything really. Some clinics are even setting up services so you can check your results online without having to worry about calling up/getting a text/email that then has to be explained away.

I will also say this, condoms are not 100% effective at preventing chlamydia and gonnorhea, or a variety of others, which is why it's vitally important to get tested regularly on both sides. They just massively cut the chance of passing an STD, but there is still a small risk.

Hence guys don't leave your tests to just once every 6 months/a year, even if 70% of the time you will show symptoms of infection, the onset of symptoms does vary, and 30% of the time you will be asymptomatic.

[Murray Mint]

The possibility of catching an STI is the risk we take in this game, I'm afraid. I know some of you avoid OWO and RO - and even kissing! - but without them my enjoyment would be so diminished I might just as well stay at home and have a wank!

Some 6 or 7 years ago a WG I used to see regularly, contacted me to say her partner in crime had contracted gonorrhoea of the throat. I'd never seen this partner, and my regular had tested out OK, but she thought I ought to just get checked. There was no issue, but I did lay off for a month or two just in case.

[Murray Mint]

.....If you're going to a normal clinic and not disclosing that you're an escort/see escorts, you'll often get a shorter list of tests done......

The best solution is to just tell them you have unprotected anal sex with a sex worker and you'll get the full works!...

[penisilin]

Thanks for sharing. So it possible to contract Chlamydia via OWO? what a risk it is then but like others have said, it will cut the pleasure down to a level where it's pointless seeing a WG.

[billyjo]

If you're going to a normal clinic and not disclosing that you're an escort/see escorts, you'll often get a shorter list of tests done. Which is silly as doctors/nurses have legal obligations not to disclose patient's private information. You can also give fake names, not provide your GP information, everything really. Some clinics are even setting up services so you can check your results online without having to worry about calling up/getting a text/email that then has to be explained away.

I always used fake name and d.o.b without problem but recently was caught out, gave a fake name and d.o.b but my correct address, some minutes later I was called back to reception and they stated they couldn't find my details on their system, said they only had a (real name and d.o.b) registered to my address, I had to admit it was me.  This was for a rapid screening walk in test without appointment.

[peter purves]

They'll offer what people state their at risk for. I go to a specific sex workers clinic, and they swab all, one for the mouth, one for the pussy, one for the arse. Plus the blood vials.

I've even had my eyes swabbed, which is one of the most unpleasant things I've experienced. But important to do occasionally if you allow facials, not for risk to others, but to ensure I don't have anything and go blind.

If you're going to a normal clinic and not disclosing that you're an escort/see escorts, you'll often get a shorter list of tests done. Which is silly as doctors/nurses have legal obligations not to disclose patient's private information. You can also give fake names, not provide your GP information, everything really. Some clinics are even setting up services so you can check your results online without having to worry about calling up/getting a text/email that then has to be explained away.

I will also say this, condoms are not 100% effective at preventing chlamydia and gonnorhea, or a variety of others, which is why it's vitally important to get tested regularly on both sides. They just massively cut the chance of passing an STD, but there is still a small risk.

Hence guys don't leave your tests to just once every 6 months/a year, even if 70% of the time you will show symptoms of infection, the onset of symptoms does vary, and 30% of the time you will be asymptomatic.

Cheers TS!!

[TailSeeker]

Thanks for sharing. So it possible to contract Chlamydia via OWO? what a risk it is then but like others have said, it will cut the pleasure down to a level where it's pointless seeing a WG.

There's no proven evidence of it. Studies that suggest it are dealing with just self reporting of what the men have done without further delving (no investigating and testing of partners). It's much like the studies that say condoms are 100% effective, people are saying they always use condoms, but no one is in bed with them to confirm it.

Self reporting is very limiting, we have to rely on the honestly of people, which is limited. People won't always admit when they fucked up: broken condoms, improper usage, etc. So there's a large portion of error. Hence we can't say condoms are 100% effective. Much like we know condoms are 98-99% effective at stopping pregnancy, but common usage drops it to about 70%.

There's been no proven transmission of oral leading to contraction of chlamydia, it's very much a theorised risk which is very low (the mouth is very inhospitable to most STDs). Especially as studies that discuss it never test the other party and look at cause and effect. Does the other party have it orally first? Or did they get it from their partner who then wants to pass blame? How likely is contraction of oral? Among other needed questions. Unlike studies that have looked at genital transmission where they specifically look for parties that have partners with a known case of genital chlamydia without having it themselves. However like I say, they can't reliably confirm that people are using condoms properly, they're relying on others honesty.

Safe to say, the risk is minimal, but theoretically possible. There's just not been a proven definitively caused case of it from oral sex. We know it happens from giving it, but that's very much with penises. It's theorised as well you can get it orally from cunalingus and rimming, but not proven.

[holland]

There's no proven evidence of it. Studies that suggest it are dealing with just self reporting of what the men have done without further delving (no investigating and testing of partners). It's much like the studies that say condoms are 100% effective, people are saying they always use condoms, but no one is in bed with them to confirm it.

Self reporting is very limiting, we have to rely on the honestly of people, which is limited. People won't always admit when they fucked up: broken condoms, improper usage, etc. So there's a large portion of error. Hence we can't say condoms are 100% effective. Much like we know condoms are 98-99% effective at stopping pregnancy, but common usage drops it to about 70%.

There's been no proven transmission of oral leading to contraction of chlamydia, it's very much a theorised risk which is very low (the mouth is very inhospitable to most STDs). Especially as studies that discuss it never test the other party and look at cause and effect. Does the other party have it orally first? Or did they get it from their partner who then wants to pass blame? How likely is contraction of oral? Among other needed questions. Unlike studies that have looked at genital transmission where they specifically look for parties that have partners with a known case of genital chlamydia without having it themselves. However like I say, they can't reliably confirm that people are using condoms properly, they're relying on others honesty.

Safe to say, the risk is minimal, but theoretically possible. There's just not been a proven definitively caused case of it from oral sex. We know it happens from giving it, but that's very much with penises. It's theorised as well you can get it orally from cunalingus and rimming, but not proven.

I'm not an expert but a quick search on Google says that it is possible to get chlamydia from OWO.

External Link/Members Only

[TailSeeker]

I'm not an expert but a quick search on Google says that it is possible to get chlamydia from OWO

Theorised as possible for recieving, proven as possible for giving. But exact risk for recieving is unknown, but theorised as being very small/negligible. This is because we know people lie about behaviour unless someone is standing over them.

Studies of risk is based entirely on self reporting with little, if any, follow up. Let alone looking at testing the other claimed infecting party. Hence the risk is mostly theorised, suspected to exist, as we know oral infection does occur, but oral to penile transmission rates are not know.

[holland]

I don't know TS.
It seems possible to get Chlamydia through oral sex. I can't find any reference to what you say but I can find plenty that says the opposite.
Can you share a link perhaps?

[mountainjew]

It's 100% possible to catch Chlamydia and Gonorrhoea form receiving unprotected oral sex. I know this for a fact  because it happened to me several years ago (i had only received unprotected oral sex at that time so there is no other way i could have caught it)     

[DaVINCI]

I don't know TS.
It seems possible to get Chlamydia through oral sex. I can't find any reference to what you say but I can find plenty that says the opposite.
Can you share a link perhaps?

OP has confirmed he received from OWO which l thought. Am l missing something here 

[peter purves]

I don't know TS.
It seems possible to get Chlamydia through oral sex. I can't find any reference to what you say but I can find plenty that says the opposite.
Can you share a link perhaps?

I took a look at the link you were good enough to share and it seems to support TS's contention

[holland]

OP has confirmed he received from OWO which l thought. Am l missing something here 

Yes.
Tail Seeker is a serial bullshitter but because her sparse fan base she is still thriving on UkPunting

[holland]

I took a look at the link you were good enough to share and it seems to support TS's contention

This what I read

Getting oral sex on the penis from a partner with chlamydia in the throat can result in getting chlamydia of the penis. 

[peter purves]

Yes.
Tail Seeker is a serial bullshitter but because her sparse fan base she is still thriving on UkPunting

...I was merely looking at your link and what she had said previously regarding the scientific facts.

[holland]

It wasn't directed to you peter purves. Not at all.
I am actually a big fan of you.   

[TailSeeker]

I don't know TS.
It seems possible to get Chlamydia through oral sex. I can't find any reference to what you say but I can find plenty that says the opposite.
Can you share a link perhaps?

The problem is that it's impossible to prove a negative, we know it's a possibility, but from studies we have we only have a theorised risk factor, not a proven one. It's not as easy as WSW studies where penetration is limited to toys and those can be tested vs oral transmission. We rely on the truth of participants in MSM/MSW studies, which unfortunately isn't always honest.

To give an example 13.3% of claimed always condom users got genital gonorrhea. External Link/Members Only

By this we can either conclude condoms are not 100% effective at preventing chlamydia contraction, or the participants are lying about their usage. And if we conclude the latter, then we have to conclude that other studies with self reporting without follow up could be lying. Or they be being honest, and condoms don't protect 100% and don't bother considering those as options of a route of infection.

We have plenty of proof of oral infection, but the difficulty is determining cause and effect. And proving the transmission rate would rely on ensuring nothing but oral sex occurs, which is impossible, and ethically not allowed in lab situations.

Essentially, as a TL:DR, we know oral could happen, but the exact rates are unknown and by oral contraction rates that are detected, it's way way way lower than penetration would be (and bare dick running against bare pussy carries a much higher risk than OWO).

[peter purves]

This what I read

Getting oral sex on the penis from a partner with chlamydia in the throat can result in getting chlamydia of the penis.

Cheers, I think I now understand your position much better.

With regard to my position:

Chlamydia, like other STIs, is passed from an infected person to a partner through certain sexual activities. Chlamydia is passed primarily during anal or vaginal sex. It is less likely to be transmitted through oral sex.

It can be passed when the mucous membrane, the soft skin covering all the openings of the body, comes into contact with the mucous membrane secretions or semen of an infected person. This is what happens during unprotected sex (that is sex without a latex condom) whether vaginal or anal sex.

Oral sex is not a common cause of infection with this bacteria. Chlamydia is less likely to be transmitted during oral sex because the bacteria that cause chlamydia prefer to target the genital area rather than the throat. This is why it is unlikely for chlamydia to be transmitted from mouth-to-penis and penis-to-mouth contact, although it is still possible.

It is even less likely for transmission to take place from vagina-to-mouth or anus-to-mouth contact. Transmission is not known to occur from mouth-to-vagina and mouth to anus contact.

External Link/Members Only

[peter purves]

It wasn't directed to you peter purves. Not at all.
I am actually a big fan of you.   

Ahh thank you Sir 

Likewise 

[TailSeeker]

Yes.
Tail Seeker is a serial bullshitter but because her sparse fan base she is still thriving on UkPunting

I'm not bullshitting, I'm just stating the limitations of the studies. If you want a study that excluded all other possibilities of transmission, the main known proven case of female to female transmission of HIV is a great one.

External Link/Members Only

No other risks, literally just one partner, no tattoos, no piercings, no men, no drugs, just the one female partner, virgin before and clean tests before, and they tested their sex toys to deduce the likely route. Whilst many other claims of female to female transmission fell down when they dug deeper, showing evidence of intravenous drug use, or sex with men that they hadn't declared initially.

The problem is many scientists don't challenge people, or don't ask the right questions. Mostly in fear of high drop out rates.

To give an example, we don't trust smokers about whether they've quit or not, we do blood tests on them to confirm what they say.

[Kev40ish]

Yes.
Tail Seeker is a serial bullshitter but because her sparse fan base she is still thriving on UkPunting

Oh I forgot your obviously an expert on the subject.
Or possibly once again you trolling TS???

[TailSeeker]

Oh I forgot your obviously an expert on the subject.
Or possibly once again you trolling TS???

No, it's good he challenges. Only bad scientists hate being challenged, requires us to pull up the info we can to back up our claims.

[Kev40ish]

No, it's good he challenges. Only bad scientists hate being challenged, requires us to pull up the info we can to back up our claims.

Your being kind to him, I doubt he’ll appreciate it...

[TailSeeker]

Your being kind to him, I doubt he’ll appreciate it...

Maybe, but I'd rather encourage people to question studies and what they claim than have people blindly believe. It's good to question studies, too few do.

[JonasG]

Hi All,

I saw one escort about 10 days ago and 3 days ago I started noticing pain when urinating and unusual discharge from penis.

Went to GUM / Sexual Health Clinic and got tested for STD and STI.

Doctor confirmed I have STI ( Chlamydia ).

I am on anti biotics now.

No more OWO for me from now on. Stress and worries I have faced in last few days is just too much.

OWO, licking and kissing is just NO NO zone for me from now on.

Guys be safe out there and always use protection.

I am also going for blood test in  2 weeks.

Play safe

Thanks

Surprised they never gave you a blood test at the same time.

[jeanphillipe]

Hi All,

I saw one escort about 10 days ago and 3 days ago I started noticing pain when urinating and unusual discharge from penis.

Went to GUM / Sexual Health Clinic and got tested for STD and STI.

Doctor confirmed I have STI ( Chlamydia ).

I am on anti biotics now.

No more OWO for me from now on. Stress and worries I have faced in last few days is just too much.

OWO, licking and kissing is just NO NO zone for me from now on.

Guys be safe out there and always use protection.

I am also going for blood test in  2 weeks.

Play safe

Thanks

Thank you for this, no more OWO for me. Unless it's from someone like starnatalia who I know gets checked regularly and properly.

Can I ask , was this escort a rom/EE or what was her background. Also is she someone with a high reputation or relatively unknown

[winkywanky]

No, it's good he challenges. Only bad scientists hate being challenged, requires us to pull up the info we can to back up our claims.

Calling you a serial bullshitter is not challenging, it's being a serial twat. It deserves less respect than you're giving.

[Waterhouse]

Calling you a serial bullshitter is not challenging, it's being a serial twat. It deserves less respect than you're giving.

Couldn't agree more.

I know I'm not the only one who appreciates and benefits from Tailseeker's informative posts.

[HarryZZ]

I think we can confirm it's a risk as the OP says he caught it and how he caught it, but it's a calculated risk, the fact that out of the thousands of reviews posted every year, and all those meetings that have not been shared in a review by those of us who use these pages this is a very isolated incident.

[holland]

Maybe, but I'd rather encourage people to question studies and what they claim than have people blindly believe. It's good to question studies, too few do.

Thank you TS. After your clarifications I now understand your points but I don't fully agree with them.
I appreciated your response. It shows maturity and you came out rather strong from this conversation.
Unlikely someone else who didn't add any value to the discussion and spent their time writing fluffy nonsense and whining about fellow punters.

[vw]

I think we can confirm it's a risk as the OP says he caught it and how he caught it, but it's a calculated risk, the fact that out of the thousands of reviews posted every year, and all those meetings that have not been shared in a review by those of us who use these pages this is a very isolated incident.

Do you really think people are open and broadcast these things? 

I suspect a tiny fraction only mention it on forum.

[Romney]

Thank you for this, no more OWO for me. Unless it's from someone like starnatalia who I know gets checked regularly and properly.

I'm not sure relying on wg's getting tested regularly is going to make you safer in any way.  First because nobody really knows if or how often anyone else is actually getting tested.  Secondly because even if all of the wg's you see really do get tested regularly, the tests can only find an infection that's already there, so it's after the fact, and any wg you've seen could have passed an STI to you just before getting tested positive.

All we can do is choose what risks we're willing to take, and get tested ourselves. Relying on others to keep us safe is never a good idea, imo.

[JonasG]

How many punters will advertise on here that they got something? A few maybe.

We all know RO and OWO carries a slight risk in catching a STD.

So just cos someone mentions on here that he got something from OWO shouldn't really change things for you, cos we surely all know there is a chance anyway but we carried on doing both.

[Fat Bob]

We all know RO and OWO carries a slight risk in catching a STD.

So just cos someone mentions on here that he got something from OWO shouldn't really change things for you, cos we surely all know there is a chance anyway but we carried on doing both.

For what its worth, I would say that I'm risk averse and therefore always choose OW (covered), although I do participate in RO.  Judging by a fleeting comment made to me recently by a very experienced and positively UKP reviewed WG with an AW rating of over 500, I clearly fall into the minority. The WG advised that I was her very first client to request OW. The comment was made in the context that she was apologising in advance as she wasn't sure if she could deliver the top drawer service that she would normally deliver.

[vw]

For what its worth, I would say that I'm risk averse and therefore always choose OW (covered), although I do participate in RO.  Judging by a fleeting comment made to me recently by a very experienced and positively UKP reviewed WG with an AW rating of over 500, I clearly fall into the minority. The WG advised that I was the very first client to request OW. The comment was made in the context that she was apologising in advance as she wasn't sure if she could deliver the top drawer service that she would normally deliver.

That would make an interesting first review especially for punters requiring ow only

[Gamers]

Surprised they never gave you a blood test at the same time.

They said it’s too early for blood test. I am going back in 10 days for blood test.
They gave me appointment

[Gamers]

Thank you for this, no more OWO for me. Unless it's from someone like starnatalia who I know gets checked regularly and properly.

Can I ask , was this escort a rom/EE or what was her background. Also is she someone with a high reputation or relatively unknown

She told me she is from Romania.
I saw her in brothel in Manchester town area.

[Itsnotshy]

When doing OWO try and avoid deep throat as the nasty stuff tends to reside at the back of the throat. Pushing your urethra up against said area is a little bit risky.
STIs generally do not thrive in saliva, so a sloppy blow job is no bad thing.

I read all this some time ago from a number of different sources, I googled it. You could google it too.
As to the veracity of the stuff on google, who knows?