joecampos09 & themademan2

[Kev3773]

Are you saying it's only the Fat the old & the Munters that offer it then?

Put that in a search you might find what you're looking for 

[greychap]

Are you saying it's only the Fat the old & the Munters that offer it then?

Good looking girls offer it too and some would want it kept quiet and not always for extra money, over the years I have had a few girls not only hint at BB but had a couple that tried jumping on my cock without and I was like hold your horses and those at the time were not old fat munters or dodgy looking druggies some are well presented, well dressed, well spoken too. Takes all sorts not just the stereo type image.

[BrunetteBarbieBrooke]

Are you saying it's only the Fat the old & the Munters that offer it then?

How on earth did you correlate 'good' with fat, old and munters? Haha

You silly bugger 

[greychap]

Thinking about this can see why mm2 had no interest in joining UKE because it was made clear about no special treatment and girls and blokes treated the same.

He probably would have known there was a chance that if he was over there posting some girls could call him out and would have been far easier to call him out on stuff he has done over there and with more girls on there would have not been good for him. It adds up why he had no interest and was not keen on the site.

[Durham-lad]

Allure haven't come out of this looking very good either.

[greychap]

Allure haven't come out of this looking very good either.

No not at all.

[Looking4fun]

Maybe the thread should be continued on ukescorting so we can hear everybody's input ?

[vw]

Maybe the thread should be continued on ukescorting so we can here everybody's input ?

Not everyone is a member over there so concurrent threads probably best so people don't miss out !

[Looking4fun]

Yes I agree but it's not hard to sign up & you will get input from a lot of sources

[vw]

Yes I agree but it's not hard to sign up & you will get input from a lot of sources

Not hard, but many don't want to join don't want to do crowd punting.

Maybe post a link here when its running !

Happy days 

[yorkshire123]

Thinking about this can see why mm2 had no interest in joining UKE because it was made clear about no special treatment and girls and blokes treated the same.

He probably would have known there was a chance that if he was over there posting some girls could call him out and would have been far easier to call him out on stuff he has done over there and with more girls on there would have not been good for him. It adds up why he had no interest and was not keen on the site.

Do you seriously think he isn't on there?

I don't really understand all of the ins & out's of this sorry tale as the accusations & counter accusations are quite difficult for a simpleton like myself to follow but if admin had enough of a wrong-un feeling about him to fuck him off that's good enough for me.

However such a wrong-un wouldn't be able to resist the getting close to prossie's nature of UKE & hopefully he & cunts like Mccry will be recognised for who they are before any damage is done. I also add thieving blacklisted prossie's to that list.

As a fellow punting buddy would put it, We mix in shady circles.

Its a paid fuck for gods sake, why the hell such cunts have to make it so unpalatable for genuine punters is beyond me 

[greychap]

Not hard, but many don't want to join don't want to do crowd punting.

Agree and some wont always put on open forum certain things over there because both Wg's agencies and punters are all together over there.

[squeezebox]

Good call Admin.

If he had continued, his reviews/input would have been fruit of the poisonous tree. Any genuine review/WG would have been tainted there-after.

[greychap]

Do you seriously think he isn't on there?

I don't really understand all of the ins & out's of this sorry tale as the accusations & counter accusations are quite difficult for a simpleton like myself to follow but if admin had enough of a wrong-un feeling about him to fuck him off that's good enough for me.

However such a wrong-un wouldn't be able to resist the getting close to prossie's nature of UKE & hopefully he & cunts like Mccry will be recognised for who they are before any damage is done. I also add thieving blacklisted prossie's to that list.

As a fellow punting buddy would put it, We mix in shady circles.

Its a paid fuck for gods sake, why the hell such cunts have to make it so unpalatable for genuine punters is beyond me 

He might have been on there already but who knows

[Mansell]

Do you seriously think he isn't on there?

I don't really understand all of the ins & out's of this sorry tale as the accusations & counter accusations are quite difficult for a simpleton like myself to follow but if admin had enough of a wrong-un feeling about him to fuck him off that's good enough for me.

However such a wrong-un wouldn't be able to resist the getting close to prossie's nature of UKE & hopefully he & cunts like Mccry will be recognised for who they are before any damage is done. I also add thieving blacklisted prossie's to that list.

As a fellow punting buddy would put it, We mix in shady circles.

Its a paid fuck for gods sake, why the hell such cunts have to make it so unpalatable for genuine punters is beyond me 

Top post Yorkshire 

[greychap]

I bet the punter that had an outcall to his home and saw Dee wont be too pleased if he is a member on any of these sites knowing the mm2 dropped off Dee to his house so he knows the blokes address and also Ambers address not sure if its a work address of Amber or where she lives but even so him taking girls to jobs and Alli in car too, just not professional or discreet at all.

Why not turn the job down if Dee really wanted mm2's company I doubt the punter at his home was informed its the mademan ukps number 1 reviewer of the north east driving the car

[cockneybstrd]

I bet the punter that had an outcall to his home and saw Dee wont be too pleased if he is a member on any of these sites knowing the mm2 dropped off Dee to his house so he knows the blokes address and also Ambers address not sure if its a work address of Amber or where she lives but even so him taking girls to jobs and Alli in car too, just not professional or discreet at all.

Why not turn the job down if Dee really wanted mm2's company I doubt the punter at his home was informed its the mademan ukps number 1 reviewer of the north east driving the car

I feel like I am joining in like half way through the fourth series of a tv box set

But why was he driving around prossies who worked for an agency and so you would assume would have there own driver/deal with a taxi company ?

Was he supplying drugs as well ? Having a quick look at a few of his postings I was just left with the impression he might be a dealer

[greychap]

I feel like I am joining in like half way through the fourth series of a tv box set

But why was he driving around prossies who worked for an agency and so you would assume would have there own driver/deal with a taxi company ?

Was he supplying drugs as well ? Having a quick look at a few of his postings I was just left with the impression he might be a dealer

Something to do with The girl Dee who said he intimidated her to provide BB she Was with agency owner and Alli arranged to meet MM2 cos Dee wanted to as well so she got a job come up and mm2 was driving Alli the owner to another girls place then took Dee to the punters home for outcall.

[AnthG]

I think I disabled that a few weeks ago when I also dropped the 6 month limit on PMs. They stay indefinitely now like posts.

Have just checked my PMs and can see my last one from him on August 28th is still there in the list so they definitely haven't been deleted after his ban.

[greychap]

I feel like I am joining in like half way through the fourth series of a tv box set

But why was he driving around prossies who worked for an agency and so you would assume would have there own driver/deal with a taxi company ?

Was he supplying drugs as well ? Having a quick look at a few of his postings I was just left with the impression he might be a dealer

Don't know anything about him being a dealer in drugs but a dealer in bareback that is for sure.

[Barry Shipton]

Not hard, but many don't want to join don't want to do crowd punting.

Maybe post a link here when its running !

UKE threads are still locked and probably for good reason to stop bickering which is ironically between WGs and agencies who are falling out in lumps.

Makes this discussion on UKP look very good natured and gentlemanly!

[greychap]

UKE threads are still locked and probably for good reason to stop bickering which is ironically between WGs and agencies who are falling out in lumps.

Makes this discussion on UKP look very good natured and gentlemanly!

Yes there was some terrible bickering over there between Alli and Dee and even got brought up by alli that Dee saw mm2 for bareback and he only paid £30....shocking the things that come out when people fall out.

[stevedave]

Allure haven't come out of this looking very good either.

Completely agree with this.

I posted yesterday on uke that they should provide some assurances about their girls, as it seems to the untrained eye that they know some of their employees indulge (or have indulged) in bb with this guy and god knows who else. And this guy seemingly was a known barebacker yet they continued to take bookings from him and sending girls into potentially dangerous situations.

The whole thing fucking stinks.

[AnthG]

They won't all have done bb so unless you're not going to see anyone he's visited it doesn't really help. 

Your right there Alfie, you cannot blacken all the girls he gave a positive review to, you need to make your own minds on personal risk to yourself maybe stop the OWO or DFK.  Up to you as a punter as you can never be certain and there are more bug chasers out there and he probably wont stop punting because he is banned here !

The thing is though, due to this whole mess. A lot, and I do mean an incredible lot of punters have said either in posts on here, or UKE or just in PMs to me that they are feeling like giving up punting. Or just giving up for some time all due to the fear for their sexual health safety from this mess. (I mean by risks of catching something due to him barebacking half of Newcastle it seems).

And the problem is those girls he has reviewed those fears will be there and 100x worse for them than just any regular girl in the north east.

As yes he may have stuck on a condom for sex with that girl. But he still would have got the likes of OWO with them and thus anything could have been transmitted from that girl he BBed. The whole thing is not a nice feeling at all to be honest.

My strongest possible advice and suggestion made to every girl he has seen would be to go to a GUM clinic this week and get an all clear cetificate. Then blank out your name and post it up onto UKE or something like that for people to see the all clear to thus relieve their concerns.

I know that is possibly overkill to the nth degree. But this is not a nice situation at all for me and the fear will be there until by some until this is done. I will say again the amount of people I have seen say they are going to give up punting solely due to this is unreal as it really is quite freaky to be honest this whole mess.

[greychap]

The thing is though, due to this whole mess. A lot, and I do mean an incredible lot of punters have said either in posts on here, or UKE or just in PMs to me that they are feeling like giving up punting. Or just giving up for some time all due to the fear for their sexual health safety from this mess. (I mean by risks of catching something due to him barebacking half of Newcastle it seems).

And the problem is those girls he has reviewed those fears will be there and 100x worse for them than just any regular girl in the north east.

As yes he may have stuck on a condom for sex with that girl. But he still would have got the likes of OWO with them and thus anything could have been transmitted from that girl he BBed. The whole thing is not a nice feeling at all to be honest.

My strongest possible advice and suggestion made to every girl he has seen would be to go to a GUM clinic this week and get an all clear cetificate. Then blank out your name and post it up onto UKE or something like that for people to see the all clear to thus relieve their concerns.

I know that is possibly overkill to the nth degree. But this is not a nice situation at all for me and the fear will be there until by some until this is done. I will say again the amount of people I have seen say they are going to give up punting solely due to this is unreal as it really is quite freaky to be honest this whole mess.

Anth im certainly knocking punting on the head when im in Newcastle and im not sure I want to use an agency again as well as I don't trust certain things anymore, privacy, discretion and keeping on girls where they should be let go and things hushed up

[AnthG]

Yes there was some terrible bickering over there between Alli and Dee and even got brought up by alli that Dee saw mm2 for bareback and he only paid £30....shocking the things that come out when people fall out.

I think that is bullshit.

There is no way MissyD would have said that to Alli on the Friday to her. There was no conext for her to have ever said this. The original story was he was messaging her threatening and blackmailing her to do it with him or he will leave a negative review for her if she didn't. So Alli came around for support on that pretence, and MissyD didn't work all that Friday due to being so afraid of that going on.

There is no way in gods green earth in any conversation that I can evisage would MissyD have said to Alli on that Friday 'and by the way I have been offering him Bareback frequently for £30 a pop'. As the whole argument at that time was she hadn't been doing it till she confessed on the forum on Monday in her post. And Allure didn't know she had done it till that post she made too.

This is just allure going into damage limitation mode and stringing Missy out to dry as the consequence. As they know how bad all this appears. So had a choice of twisting it all onto one girl. Or having shit hitting the fan big style. They chose the easier option.

[vw]

I think that is bullshit.

There is no way MissyD would have said that to Alli on the Friday to her. There was no conext for her to have ever said this. The original story was he was messaging her threatening and blackmailing her to do it with him or he will leave a negative review for her if she didn't. So Alli came around for support on that pretence, and MissyD didn't work all that Friday due to being so afraid of that going on.

There is no way in gods green earth in any conversation that I can evisage would MissyD have said to Alli on that Friday 'and by the way I have been offering him Bareback frequently for £30 a pop'. As the whole argument at that time was she hadn't been doing it till she confessed on the forum on Monday in her post. And Allure didn't know she had done it till that post she made too.

This is just allure going into damage limitation mode and stringing Missy out to dry as the consequence. As they know how bad all this appears. So had a choice of twisting it all onto one girl. Or having shit hitting the fan big style. They chose the easier option.

Last sentence ?

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I bet they use girls as scapegoats a lot to protect their scummy empire !

[greychap]

I think that is bullshit.

There is no way MissyD would have said that to Alli on the Friday to her. There was no conext for her to have ever said this. The original story was he was messaging her threatening and blackmailing her to do it with him or he will leave a negative review for her if she didn't. So Alli came around for support on that pretence, and MissyD didn't work all that Friday due to being so afraid of that going on.

There is no way in gods green earth in any conversation that I can evisage would MissyD have said to Alli on that Friday 'and by the way I have been offering him Bareback frequently for £30 a pop'. As the whole argument at that time was she hadn't been doing it till she confessed on the forum on Monday in her post. And Allure didn't know she had done it till that post she made too.

This is just allure going into damage limitation mode and stringing Missy out to dry as the consequence. As they know how bad all this appears. So had a choice of twisting it all onto one girl. Or having shit hitting the fan big style. They chose the easier option.

I know what your saying Anth...... what looked real bad was they were keeping her on and only after Dee said on forum take me off the site I don't want to be with your agency then the dirt came up about that plus she then knew she was BB and on that BB site plus she was drunk and passed out on a blokes sofa and he could not get her out of house til 5 am then had to walk her home himself.

So truth or not this looks very bad if even true

[greychap]

Last sentence ?

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I bet they use girls as scapegoats a lot to protect their scummy empire !

Mmmmmm

[Barry Shipton]

Nobody's coming out of this smelling of roses - its bad for the whole NE punting scene, everyone's running to cover their backs.

[AnthG]

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I bet they use girls as scapegoats a lot to protect their scummy empire !

Its the second to last sentence that worries me more, and hence my post above asking/suggesting for girls to post an all clear sheet from the GUM above as a means of removing concerns over this mess.

Those ladies who have said this has been done too, you are believed and well done for not falling for the review/bareback and not going ahead with the bookings. Those that did I still feel for them as they would of been scared. Yous are the brave ones.

The unwritten statement from that is, they know a fuckload of a girls have BBed him.

The other thing that has been PMed to me by more than one person, is he likes to go and pick up girls for car meets. That to me suggests streetwalkers. And that is STI fucking nightmare as most streetwalkers are likely drug addicts and riddled with diseases. If they were not they would be on Adultwork or working from an agency.

This is all a mess, and all a freaky situation and something I do not like.

[Barry Shipton]

And the fallout continues - hopefully we can all just forget this soon and move on.

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[greychap]

Its the second to last sentence that worries me more, and hence my post above asking/suggesting for girls to post an all clear sheet from the GUM above as a means of removing concerns over this mess.

The unwritten statement from that is, they know a fuckload of a girls have BBed him.

The other thing that has been PMed to me by more than one person, is he likes to go and pick up girls for car meets. That to me suggests streetwalkers. And that is STI fucking nightmare as most streetwalkers are likely drug addicts and riddled with diseases. If they were not they would be on Adultwork or working from an agency.

This is all a mess, and all a freaky situation and something I do not like.

He was seeing 4 to 5 girls a week FFS and that is without these special popular friends he had on the side that he got freebies from or discounts

Plus he been punting several years and lots of girls and agency owners know him and if he was known by lots of girls etc for BB and a lot knew about it he was still getting bookings with girls

When we discussed his reviews and on pm said im sure the girls know who you are he was like no me and June are pals we go back years she would never ever cross me and she knows exactly what I like and knows what girls suit me so that is why all my reviews are positive for Allure girls.!

[Mansell]

And the fallout continues - hopefully we can all just forget this soon and move on.

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Agreed Barry, let's also hope the NE section improves as a result.

Anth & Greychap. I'm not sure that your adding much more now. People on here aren't stupid, they can make their own decisions based on the info already around.

[daveev]

might get closed if we are lucky, ive aged ten years

[Durham-lad]

I bet the punter that had an outcall to his home and saw Dee wont be too pleased if he is a member on any of these sites knowing the mm2 dropped off Dee to his house so he knows the blokes address and also Ambers address not sure if its a work address of Amber or where she lives but even so him taking girls to jobs and Alli in car too, just not professional or discreet at all.

Why not turn the job down if Dee really wanted mm2's company I doubt the punter at his home was informed its the mademan ukps number 1 reviewer of the north east driving the car

Very strange that alli was able to contact and get him to give dee a lift doesn't sound like privacy is respected. Then she knows one of her girls has been barebacked off him but chose to allow her to keep working shows what she thinks of her punters.
Then the way she's chucked dee under the bus I think a lot of covering ones are is going on at allure.
How can you believe her when she says none of her girls have been barebacked off him.
I've only got back into punting this year after a break and certainly won't be using allure in the future. And I'm really thinking of just going for a massage with hr.

[AnthG]

Agreed Barry, let's also hope the NE section improves as a result.

Anth & Greychap. I'm not sure that your adding much more now. People on here aren't stupid, they can make their own decisions based on the info already around.

I am not trying to "add" things. I am trying to push girls to agree to remove the fears that do exist. I know I have them

I have started a suggestion topic for WGs to consider doing as I suggested way above on UKE just now.

But you are correct in a sense that really there is not much more to post now on the subject so wont post in this topic here.

[vw]

I am not trying to "add" things. I am trying to push girls to agree to remove the fears that do exist. I know I have them

I have started a suggestion topic for WGs to consider doing as I suggested way above on UKE just now.

But you are correct in a sense that really there is not much more to post now on the subject so wont post in this topic here.

Hope that was worded tactfully  !

[greychap]

Agreed Barry, let's also hope the NE section improves as a result.

Anth & Greychap. I'm not sure that your adding much more now. People on here aren't stupid, they can make their own decisions based on the info already around.

Did not say anyone on here was stupid, its a discussion forum things get discussed end of!

[vw]

How can you believe her when she says none of her girls have been barebacked off him.

Well trust is easily lost and very difficult to get back.

Poor employees !

And all the bint is interested in is Dee's avatar, you couldn't make this shit up !

[Durham-lad]

I'm struggling to get my head round that bareback sight I was surprised to find this place, but that's really strange.

[greychap]

Very strange that alli was able to contact and get him to give dee a lift doesn't sound like privacy is respected. Then she knows one of her girls has been barebacked off him but chose to allow her to keep working shows what she thinks of her punters.
Then the way she's chucked dee under the bus I think a lot of covering ones are is going on at allure.
How can you believe her when she says none of her girls have been barebacked off him.
I've only got back into punting this year after a break and certainly won't be using allure in the future. And I'm really thinking of just going for a massage with hr.

I know mate very disappointing indeed all this

[vw]

I am not trying to "add" things. I am trying to push girls to agree to remove the fears that do exist. I know I have them

I have started a suggestion topic for WGs to consider doing as I suggested way above on UKE just now.

But you are correct in a sense that really there is not much more to post now on the subject so wont post in this topic here.

No offence but dont go into hostage negotiation, that has train wreck all over it !

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How do you know who he has been with on your witch hunt against the girls ?

look after your own health thats al anyone can do, if you insist in certificates make it pravate between you and the girl !

[johnny34]

Agreed Barry, let's also hope the NE section improves as a result.

Totally agree, lets hope the NE section can get back on track to provide great info & reviews. Lets leave all the drama's behind & move forward.

[vw]

Totally agree, lets hope the NE section can get back on track to provide great info & reviews. Lets leave all the drama's behind & move forward.

Hope so, have some nice walking planned in June along the NE coast !   with Much punting mixed in !

[coolguy1990]

Not that I want to stick up for the guy (as he was very arrogant to me in another thread), but how can mm2 have offered cash for bb and a 'fake' review to the same girl (sexy dupree or something)?

Surely he would have offered a good review for it. Yes it be inaccurate in that he wouldn't disclose the bb, but fake?

Surely a good review could only really be considered fully fake if the girl usually provides a shit service or the meet never happened.

Also, the girls all don't seem to be accusing him of forcing them, only of asking for bb. It looks like only one or two have accused him of forcing them, but people are taking all of the accusations as being forced.

[greychap]

Not that I want to stick up for the guy (as he was very arrogant to me in another thread), but how can mm2 have offered cash for bb and a 'fake' review to the same girl (sexy dupree or something)?

Surely he would have offered a good review for it. Yes it be inaccurate in that he wouldn't disclose the bb, but fake?

Surely a good review could only really be considered fully fake if the girl usually provides a shit service or the meet never happened.

Also, the girls all don't seem to be accusing him of forcing them, only of asking for bb. It looks like only one or two have accused him of forcing them, but people are taking all of the accusations as being forced.

Mate that is funny your spot on there

[OldAdmin]

joecampos09 = fundude09

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13865

Now banned.

Help from others to identify him.

[greychap]

joecampos09 = fundude09

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=profile;u=13865

Now banned.

Help from others to identify him.

Well done who ever the girl is 

[coolguy1990]

Mate that is funny your spot on there

You get what i'm saying?

Now someone on uke claimed 10 girls had accused him of forcing them, and they even listed the girls, but if you read through every single post, most of them just said he offered £ for bb.

People were even saying why would a girl who doesn't even work in Newcastle lie about it, as if that proved he'd forced her, but she just claimed he'd offered £ for bb.

One girl was just quoted as being scared, so that's only hearsay.

I wonder just how many girls are willing to say he tried to force bb and have evidence.