Pay Pigs/ Findom

[Clarence Boddicker]

This has probably been covered before, but I'm genuinely curious and if I can't find the answer here, I doubt I'll find it anywhere. Does anyone know of anyone who actually gets sexually turned-on by, somebody else spending their money? Don't get me wrong, I'm very open minded and love all things kink, submission, domination, BDSM etc, but I just can't get into the headspace where my heart-rate would increase by being taken advantage of and getting fuck all in return. I could totally understand why a WG would be offering it of course, but personally I find it a turn-off when I see it on their profiles, it makes than come across somewhat sociopathic and less then genuine. I'm really interested to know if it's actually a thing and any anecdotes   

[lamboman]

I've no interest either and it also puts me right off an escort.
I guess it's for those with a low opinion of themselves.

[spiralnotebook]

Better to spend the money on a new brain.

[Gordon Bennett]

I'm dubious it actually exists in reality, not in any meaningful numbers anyway. However, I suspect part of the "kink" would be suffering in silence - I can't see any chap publicly owning up to being a silly piggy so in that sense it's hugely unlikely you'll know any piggies (well you might, you just won't know though).

[TomTank]

My understanding is that there are chaps who genuinely get off on it, if it's done properly.
And there are very few girls who do it properly, and many who don't.
There's a tiny bit of my brain that gets it, but like scat, not for me.

Too many girls see femdom as easy money, and there are far too many girls who offer findom, and are essentially chancing little bitches.
Gold diggers in every day life are extremely unattractive, even more so in this world.

I know people say pay as you go (prostitutes) are cheaper in the long run than pay monthly (wags), but I think the only reason we don't see the unattractiveness of a pay me now for my gold digging prostitute, is because we are in the moment and thinking with our other brains.

[Stevelondon]

Firstly let me say this straight away. Although I too have an interest in fetish stuff, kink, bondage/submission.
I’ve never been able to get my head round the fetish of findom/ATM meets etc.
Especially if it’s something being asked for by a SP who is simply offering sexual sexual services rather than having a real interest in BDSM rtc.

But I do know a couple (virtually) of guys who are into this as part of the relationship they have with their doms/mistresses.

My way of thinking is “Whatever floats your boat”

[Sibiu]

With you on this. I too don’t get it.

[TomTank]

Firstly let me say this straight away. Although I too have an interest in fetish stuff, kink, bondage/submission.
I’ve never been able to get my head round the fetish of findom/ATM meets etc.
Especially if it’s something being asked for by a SP who is simply offering sexual sexual services rather than having a real interest in BDSM rtc.

But I do know a couple (virtually) of guys who are into this as part of the relationship they have with their doms/mistresses.

My way of thinking is “Whatever floats your boat”

Me too .... puts me off them completely

[arrow0404]

I don’t get it either, the whole ‘adopt a bill’ thing is baffling

[ddddrrrrrr]

I've always presumed it to be a rather specific form of submission/humiliation. Perhaps, after exploring everything else, it's where people end up. As you say, "being taken advantage of and getting fuck all in return" doesn't sound the most appealing. However, I can see how it might be to some.

[Thecunninglinguist]

Maybe they think PayPigs on their profile excuses them from a fraud charge when they rip someone off?

[shaft10]

This has probably been covered before, but I'm genuinely curious and if I can't find the answer here, I doubt I'll find it anywhere. Does anyone know of anyone who actually gets sexually turned-on by, somebody else spending their money? Don't get me wrong, I'm very open minded and love all things kink, submission, domination, BDSM etc, but I just can't get into the headspace where my heart-rate would increase by being taken advantage of and getting fuck all in return. I could totally understand why a WG would be offering it of course, but personally I find it a turn-off when I see it on their profiles, it makes than come across somewhat sociopathic and less then genuine. I'm really interested to know if it's actually a thing and any anecdotes

+1

Sounds like a wife tbh

[Clarence Boddicker]

Thanks for your replies all.  Tbh I'm still feel none the wiser, as TomTank said, there's girls that do it right, but how does one do it right? Do they press the ATM buttons in a seductive manor, do they roll up the twenties and put it between their tits? Maybe its part of a wider relationship, like cuckolding or something, as I say I'm very open minded and would genuinely love to understand the motivation. Maybe it my working class upbringing but somebody else being in control of my money really is beyond my comprehension let alone enjoyment.

[Clarence Boddicker]

+1

Sounds like a wife tbh

Haha so true

[bodybuilder1997]

I came across a playlist on YouTube which shows findom meets and I one thing I found in common is that the men being findom’d all seemed to have some mental disabilities that WGs are taking advantage of

Take a look at this vid, no self respecting Male would think this is OK

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[datwabbit]

If I was a young woman I'd put the feelers out for a pay pig.

Outlay - a profile and some photos.
Income - minimum zero, maximum - what's the biggest number you can think of?

[lillythesavage]

I came across a playlist on YouTube which shows findom meets and I one thing I found in common is that the men being findom’d all seemed to have some mental disabilities that WGs are taking advantage of

Take a look at this vid, no self respecting Male would think this is OK

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You have proved a few people wrong, they do exist and it does happen and men do request it, it is not as one sided as you think it is, no idea what they get out of it or why they do it, but several SB,s have had it requested and told me they have done it even though they did not look for it, small cock humiliation is often requested too.

Kinks are kinks, whatever they are I suppose

Seeing it on an Escort profile, to me, says avoid like the plague.

[Clarence Boddicker]

I came across a playlist on YouTube which shows findom meets and I one thing I found in common is that the men being findom’d all seemed to have some mental disabilities that WGs are taking advantage of

Take a look at this vid, no self respecting Male would think this is OK

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This is actually quite brilliant, thank you for posting. I don't think I'll be trying it myself anytime soon . Whats quite interesting is the comments, some are hilarious and I definitely get the impression they're staging posts in the battle of sexes

[Carpy]

So I have regularly seen a mistress for a few years and tried many thing but this isn’t one at all for me.

I did ask her about if she had any and she said she had a few but they were more once every blue moon meets rather then regulars. I know last year she did plan on a night out the tiles with a mistress friend and they both advertised cash point meets and got takers and it paid for a pricey night out and hotel room.

Her reasoning was quite level, and for me surprising, I asked her how she felt and  her answer was if people want to do it and suggest it then she is all for it, and of the opinion as to why she should question someone else’s sexual desire if it is not illegal. But her hard limit is asking  or suggesting it herself (other then her fees)

[Gordon Bennett]

I think I made this pont in a previous incarnation of this thread but it bears repeating...

I don't think a "male master" with a female paypig would fly on any level - I strongly suspect he'd be vilified or lynched and most likely fall under the scrutiny of the police.#metoo should cut both ways.

[TomTank]

I think I made this pont in a previous incarnation of this thread but it bears repeating...

I don't think a "male master" with a female paypig would fly on any level - I strongly suspect he'd be vilified or lynched and most likely fall under the scrutiny of the police.#metoo should cut both ways.

For me femdom is fantasy, whereas male domming is too close to the reality of abuse, and makes me a bit uncomfortable at events and parties.
Having said that, a lot of submissive females attend them .....

[funfungoodguy]

Isn’t this rather like 'Rinsing' (which was the subject of a documentary and a few girls who were basically ripping off some blokes who were naive enough to be drawn in by the relentless teasing of the said greedy persons)

Girl basically blatantly takes financial advantage of a bloke. One of them was quite well known, can easily find her online from that documentary. She actually says that she teases to get the money by tempting that  she will offer something in person but 'that doesn’t mean its going to happen does it'

They had worked out ways to get blokes to buy all manner of stuff and pay various bills for them, in many cases never even meeting them. Somewhere between sad, blatantly manipulative, exploitative and greedy

[lillythesavage]

Isn’t this rather like 'Rinsing' (which was the subject of a documentary and a few girls who were basically ripping off some blokes who were naive enough to be drawn in by the relentless teasing of the said greedy persons)

Girl basically blatantly takes financial advantage of a bloke. One of them was quite well known, can easily find her online from that documentary. She actually says that she teases to get the money by tempting that  she will offer something in person but 'that doesn’t mean its going to happen does it'

They had worked out ways to get blokes to buy all manner of stuff and pay various bills for them, in many cases never even meeting them. Somewhere between sad, blatantly manipulative, exploitative and greedy

Not really, that is about hanging a carrot that never comes, basically ripping off sad guys, these guys ask for this shit knowing they will get fuck all.

CL had quite a few advertising for this before the clean up.

[mradventures]

I think I made this pont in a previous incarnation of this thread but it bears repeating...

I don't think a "male master" with a female paypig would fly on any level - I strongly suspect he'd be vilified or lynched and most likely fall under the scrutiny of the police.#metoo should cut both ways.

sadly, in the american market place, thats how some pimps operate , or along those lines :s

[Stevelondon]

I have a couple of mistress friends who regularly get asked if they will do findom stuff by some of their regular clients. But its just not something they feel comfortable with, even though they know the men who are asking for it.
I guess it is simply another form of servitude to some blokes and as has been said. Kink is kink.

Lets face it. There are probably a whole lot of men out there who think paying for sex is daft.
Hey, I am not one of them. Just saying thats all. 

[Putin]

Better to spend the money on a new brain.

You are absolutely right.

I am not one to kink shame but this sure takes the cake.

You are humiliated, rinsed dry, and still no sex.

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[MJ.spritzen]

Check this guys experience out:

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I am a paypig. I provide the Goddess I serve with my paystub every payday as well as a list of bills and any other expenses I might have between then and the next payday. She yays or nays each expense, and then I send her everything but the expenses she agreed I could pay and a small allowance. She owes me nothing in return. But I get quite a bit in return. We have chemistry and we enjoy a nice supportive friendship. It is entirely her choice to enjoy that friendship with me. However, I am submissive to her. She is in charge of our relationship. She says jump, and I jump as high as I can. She lives with her boyfriend. Our relationship is entirely platonic.

A sugar daddy on the other hand is in control of how much he gives and he will expect romance in return. A sugar daddy is not submissive.

So that would be the major difference. A paypig is submissive and a Sugar Daddy is not. Paypig/Goddess relationships tend to be platonic.

I could never be a Sugar Daddy, always a paypig.

I can't tell if he's stupid or just crazy.

[lamboman]

Check this guys experience out:

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I can't tell if he's stupid or just crazy.

I don't understand it either but each to their own.

[Stevelondon]

Check this guys experience out:

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I can't tell if he's stupid or just crazy.

Why should he be either.
We all live our lives differently.
There are probably blokes out there in fantastic sexual relationships with their partners who would think you were stupid or crazy for paying for it.
Each to their own.

[Stevelondon]

I am stupid and crazy by the way 

[MJ.spritzen]

My theory is that its because the paypig gets attention from a woman he considers out of his league. She's acknowledging him, talking to him (albeit to tell him to empty his wallet) and in a way justifies his existence because she "needs" something from him (money).

[southcoastpunter]

why is anyone trying to "get it"? you either get it or you don't.

I don't get it and have no interest in WHY some guys might - just like i have no interest in why some guys might like being pegged. its not for me but each to their own, whatever floats your boat etc

[Thepegmeister]

I think when you break it down, it’s just another form of BDSM.

However, it’s a really, really expensive form of it.

[Trex]

Usually weak men give them money for doing nothing or give them money to insult them is sad.

I think they better off paying for a therapist or psychologist to fix them.

[king tarzan]

I simply suffer from sticky wallet when it comes to spend money on someone else..
When it comes to spend on myself only that's a different story..

[king tarzan]

Usually weak men give them money for doing nothing or give them money to insult them is sad.

I think they better off paying for a therapist or psychologist to fix them.

Pathetic
A complete disgrace to men..

[Ligan]

During my very short time on SA, I was speaking with a girl who had a quite a few pay pigs. She showed me a ton of her messages and the transactions, particularly from one guy. Some of the transactions were labelled as stuff like '£50 wank', 'broke again'. Literally tons of transactions throughout the day. He never made any attempt to meet her, or nor did he want to. Just wanted her to take his money.

Each to their own, but I just didn't get it.

[Colston36]

+1

Sounds like a wife tbh

Too true to be funny. One of my sons has such a wife. Never gets any sex either; only stays because he loves his daughter.

[Stevelondon]

Usually weak men give them money for doing nothing or give them money to insult them is sad.

I think they better off paying for a therapist or psychologist to fix them.

Load of crap. You’ve done extensive research into the subject have you.
What some blokes do with their money is their business surely. Just because others don’t “Get it”
Doesn’t make them weak or a disgrace to masculinity.

I wonder how many so called submissive men are rich and successful in the vanilla world. Do they need therapy too. ?

[king tarzan]

Load of crap. You’ve done extensive research into the subject have you.
What some blokes do with their money is their business surely. Just because others don’t “Get it”
Doesn’t make them weak or a disgrace to masculinity.

I wonder how many so called submissive men are rich and successful in the vanilla world. Do they need therapy too. ?

I'm a poor man, not much to giveaway..
But I only think of myself ONLY

[Lou2019]

Pathetic
A complete disgrace to men..

different strokes for different folks

[chatbite]

Normally the moment I see the word paypig on a profile it completely puts me off unless there is something really special about her. I do understand why some WG's may offer this service as it sounds like free money if they can get someone on the hook.

[Clarence Boddicker]

different strokes for different folks

+1 this without a doubt.  While I can imagine somebody getting a thrill from the humiliation of giving money for nothing, I find it harder to accept that the recipient of that money, that the recipient wouldn't get and thrill apart from the easy earned cash. So anyone advertising it as service,comes across as an opportunist

[Greensleeves]

While I can accept that some men will get a thrill from the humiliation my problem with it is that a significant number of the “pay pigs” have mental health issues. They have lost self worth and don’t feel they deserve what they have and just want to get rid of it. The Findoms exploit this, bringing them back for more and more money. It doesn’t help the victims feel better- if anything it continues the downward spiral and can completely destroy their lives.

The findoms don’t check on the mental health of their victims they just rinse them for all they can get. They have no guilt and no shame. In my opinion they are dangerous to the vulnerable and unless you are in total control mentally and see it as a game they should be avoided at all costs.

I personally avoid any profile the mentions findom / paypigs / cash point meets like the plague as I could never give money to any woman, however hot and however good the sex who is quite happy to exploit people with potentially serious mental health issues.

[daviemac]

While I can accept that some men will get a thrill from the humiliation my problem with it is that a significant number of the “pay pigs” have mental health issues. They have lost self worth and don’t feel they deserve what they have and just want to get rid of it. The Findoms exploit this, bringing them back for more and more money. It doesn’t help the victims feel better- if anything it continues the downward spiral and can completely destroy their lives.

The findoms don’t check on the mental health of their victims they just rinse them for all they can get. They have no guilt and no shame. In my opinion they are dangerous to the vulnerable and unless you are in total control mentally and see it as a game they should be avoided at all costs.

Can you link to the reliable documented evidence of the claims you are making?  I would be interested in reading it.

[Greensleeves]

Can you link to the reliable documented evidence of the claims you are making?  I would be interested in reading it.

Dave you are right to pull me up on this as making a statement of unsupported fact when it is an opinion. I cannot give you research but the link is to an established counselling service who clearly think there can be mental health issues and have set out what they consider to be the potential underlying causes in cases where there is a problem.

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The second link is to a podcast which has an interview with  a recovering pay pig.

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[daviemac]

Dave you are right to pull me up on this as making a statement of unsupported fact when it is an opinion. I cannot give you research but the link is to an established counselling service who clearly think there can be mental health issues and have set out what they consider to be the potential underlying causes in cases where there is a problem.

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The second link is to a podcast which has an interview with  a recovering pay pig.

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If you look you will find counselling services for those addicted to gambling, alcohol, drugs or anything else you can think of, it doesn't mean everyone who drinks or gambles are addicts.

People in all walks of life can have mental health issues.

[Happiness]

They aren't well. Probably had a bad childhood and are getting taken advantage of.

[Stevelondon]

They aren't well. Probably had a bad childhood and are getting taken advantage of.

Another crap comment from somebody else who thinks they know it all.

[akauya]

What an irony that for a forum where men discuss paying women for sexual services there are plenty of judgemental and ill-conceived opinions on other men choosing to spend their money on women for other kind of services...