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Offline workingtone

This banning was like watching a car crash in slow motion.....you know it's about to happen.....

I'm happy he's gone as he was very aggressive in his views. He was given a diplomatic exit route by the moderator earlier today, but he failed to take it.
But a little part of me is sad too as I was going to visit HoD purely cos of a thread he started wanting to get them banned, and then I was going to post a review....and then watch the fireworks kick off.

Still can't believe that  SlamBoy has been banned

Offline king tarzan

Still can't believe that  SlamBoy has been banned

Hopefully might get a reprieve???
Banned reason: Misogynist who gets free bookings from agencies for pos reviews.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline workingtone

Hopefully might get a reprieve???

He'll come back under another name

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He'll come back under another name

He'll have a job registrations are closed as per header on main page.

Offline king tarzan

He'll come back under another name

Hope not..
Come back with honesty..
Otherwise he will get banned again if found out..
Banned reason: Misogynist who gets free bookings from agencies for pos reviews.
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Offline MrMatrix

Hope not..
Come back with honesty..
Otherwise he will get banned again if found out..
Agreed KT.

Offline whiskyfan

Hopefully might get a reprieve???

Why? Read rule 23 "Abuse to the Mod or Admin Team will result in a ban."

Offline king tarzan

Why? Read rule 23 "Abuse to the Mod or Admin Team will result in a ban."

Fair enough... :hi:
Banned reason: Misogynist who gets free bookings from agencies for pos reviews.
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Still can't believe that  SlamBoy has been banned

Why not? He was an obnoxious loudmouth who revelled in bullying and intimidation. His demise has been on the cards for months, it was only a matter of time before he went too far.
This time he made the mistake of trying to intimidate a member of the admin/mod team..........that could only result in one thing

Offline workingtone

Indeed, he was very nasty to me. I didn't like his behaviour, still suprised though.

Offline Happyjose

For his fanbase to ponder

I'll just leave this here...

...unpopular, chippy, foul-mouthed, aggressive, tiresome, little northern bore. Who gets his self-importance from his 'status' as a moderator on an internet forum for men who use prostitutes  :dash:
And who revels in banning anyone who has a different opinion to him.

It's a bit pathetic really. You're a little man with a big eraser.

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« Last Edit: July 20, 2019, 02:33:13 pm by Happyjose »

Offline PatMacGroin

The reasons behind why people become TS's or develop gender dysphoria (or whatever the correct method of description is) are very complicated and not totally understood.

In some cases mental health concerns could be a factor. But it is certainly not the underlying cause in every instance and it's more likely to be in the minority.

Male and female brains do have clear physiological differences. Unfortunately, it's not easy to identify them in a living brain. In the past the differences have mostly been identified and studied posthumously. Recent advances in technology means some of the differences in structure can now be seen in scans. The point being, it is possible to have a more typically male brain, or a more typically female brain, and the full spectrum in-between. So it is possible (maybe even much more common than previously believed) for a body with male sexual organs to develop a more female typical brain, and vice versa.

Current scientific research believes it is something to do with hormonal and/or genetic influences on the developing brain during various stages of gestation in the womb. There are competing theories about which influence is most important, either hormones (such as testosterone/estrogen levels) in the embryo and/or it's mother, or the activation of specific genes at different times during development.

I've read several interesting articles on it in scientific journals over the past couple of years. Can't seem to find the best ones now, but a google search does bring up plenty of references.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2019, 03:20:09 pm by PatMacGroin »

Offline Hobbit

I agree it is very complicated why they become transsexuals. However, we must understand that femininity and masculinity are not tied down to a bodily form and all concepts of what represents them are caused by conditioning from birth, what we read and what the media tells us. Both femininity and masculinity are interchangeable and can be found in one sex and can be either a male body or female body as we perceive to call them. Anyway, that's my $.50 worth.  :hi:

Offline BP

Can't see what all the fuss is about. Some otherwise nominally straight men (straight in that they have no real physical attraction to other men) are a little more adventurous and curious to push the bounds a little by fucking a biological man who looks and acts like a women. If that makes him bisexual or gay, so what. They are only labels and he should be secure enough in his own sexual identity to not be concerned about that.

It is only those who are not comfortable with their own sexuality who kick up a fuss, make homophobic comments and waste their time trying to convince others that fucking a TS is gay. Who cares. So long as its legal and doesn't hurt anyone, whatever floats your boat, I say. :hi:

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Offline mrdiamond77

Not for me. Even if they are feminine and good looking, I only like fucking pussy and dont like anal. Each to their own though.

Offline Heph


WTF? I've read some erudite, well argued and sane posts from Slamboy over time (although he could seem a little strange sometimes) but this is a bit of a surprise. Not everyone has respect for TSs or TS punting and there are frequent jibes.

But I think only someone who is themselves mentally ill, or perhaps fundamentalist-religious or even just plain nasty, would post something like that.

I'm going to step in where slamboy left off, though perhaps not in entirely the same vein  ;)

As much as sexuality might be a matter of degree, with plenty of scope for ambiguity, there comes a tipping point where x is observably not y - and she-males / trans women will cross it, though transvestites (are there m/any left?) may not, since theirs is a state they can relatively easily 'take-off'.

I personally don't object to somebody's wish to alter themselves, or to present themselves as they want. However, I draw the line at being required to collude with the conceit, by:

* changing my language to the point where it conflicts with what I observe
* ignoring what has proved to be a reliable classification for medical requirements (men don't menstruate or become pregnant)
* ignoring the Occam's Razor principle (there really are more likely explanations than someone being born into the 'wrong body')
* overprescribing resolutions - transy-types most likely simply have more unorthodox behaviour and tastes. There is mostly no need for medical intervention to address this, or society's acceptance
* the cost: presently trivial, but with encouragement, the demand for expensive intervention will increase - at the expense of other, in my view, legitimate conditions
* lack of efficacy. Medical interventions do not substantially seem to alter reported wellbeing. There are many complications, and a taboo, but increasingly frequent concern in 'the community' is to seek remedial action - reversing earlier interventions

* finally, from a punter's perspective, I do strongly object to outright deception. This is unlikely to be a threat from trannies or she-males - they tend to market themselves more overtly. However, many a militant transsexual would argue that their self-determination is all that matters, and my role is simply to assent to it, whether I have been informed or misinformed in advance, or not. I reject that... aggressively.

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2019, 02:30:41 pm by Heph »

Offline winkywanky

I'm going to step in where slamboy left off, though perhaps not in entirely the same vein  ;)

As much as sexuality might be a matter of degree, with plenty of scope for ambiguity, there comes a tipping point where x is observably not y - and she-males / trans women will cross it, though transvestites (are there m/any left?) may not, since theirs is a state they can relatively easily 'take-off'.

I personally don't object to somebody's wish to alter themselves, or to present themselves as they want. However, I draw the line at being required to collude with the conceit, by:

* changing my language to the point where it conflicts with what I observe
* ignoring what has proved to be a reliable classification for medical requirements (men don't menstruate or become pregnant)
* ignoring the Occam's Razor principle (there really are more likely explanations than someone being born into the 'wrong body')
* overprescribing resolutions - transy-types most likely simply have more unorthodox behaviour and tastes. There is mostly no need for medical intervention to address this, or society's acceptance
* the cost: presently trivial, but with encouragement, the demand for expensive intervention will increase - at the expense of other, in my view, legitimate conditions
* lack of efficacy. Medical interventions do not substantially seem to alter reported wellbeing. There are many complications, and a taboo, but increasingly frequent concern in 'the community' is to seek remedial action - reversing earlier interventions

* finally, from a punter's perspective, I do strongly object to outright deception. This is unlikely to be a threat from trannies or she-males - they tend to market themselves more overtly. However, many a militant transsexual would argue that their self-determination is all that matters, and my role is simply to assent to it, whether I have been informed or misinformed in advance, or not. I reject that... aggressively.

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This is a strange coincidence, I think our posts (mine on another thread) which talk about the same thing, have crossed in the ether, so to speak! Mine here: https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=255785.msg2612813#msg2612813

I'll pretty well say the same thing here as I did there.

Any threads/reviews about TSs are likely to be posted about by TS punters, and they will see/refer to TSs as 'she'. You (and many others) will see/refer to TSs as 'he'.

I think you just need to get used to it. If it's a TS review then although you're entitled to your opinion, why would you even look at it, let alone post about it?

If it's a thread like this one where people from both sides of the 'debate' are likely to post then of course, it's up to you whether you take a dislike to it and state as such. But an opinion is all it is, because in terms of TSs the use of 'she' is by choice (from punters and TSs), not by 'absolute scientific provenance'. This is a punting site, so it's normal for punters to express how they see things, and I think that should be accepted.

If it's the telly or your favourite newspaper that's started calling TSs 'she' then I can understand your frustration/annoyance, because that's open society and you like things how they used to be. I can understand that, indeed, there are MANY changes going on in society which I don't like, and I think they are ultimately detrimental to everyone.

But ultimately this is a punting site so what matters is what punters think. TS punters see this one way, non-TS punters may (I use the word 'may' advisedly because many non-TS punters disagree with them) see it another. So making 'absolute scientific comments' about this is futile and meaningless.

The only thing that's actually deceptive is when people make themselves out to be something they're not. That might be a post-op TS saying they're female, which is downright meant to deceive and can have serious consequences for a punter who has no interest in that. Bang out of order. There are others too of course.


Offline Sooky

The world has gone mad.the end :crazy: :crazy:


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The world has gone mad.the end :crazy: :crazy:

Care to elaborate?  not sure what that has to do with the thread topic.   :unknown:

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Offline PatMacGroin

There’s a recent post in the London forum where someone  visiting for two weeks asked for help.  Three of his six self suggestions are for shemales / trannys. I’m just wondering  if any straight guys have had good or bad experiences with shemales/trannies? I’m wondering what all the fuss is about? Aren’t you constantly reminded aren’t you constantly  remind it’s just a gay dude with tits?  Or do you think of them as a woman or something in between?  Is it a way to act out a male fantasy without calling yourself gay?  I was interested in this because an x  from a decade ago recently told me she’s lesbian  though she’s only been with men her whole life.  So I was wondering if shemales could be repressed bisexuality?

I've realised my previous post on this thread was directed at the brewing argument about why TS's occur without responding to the OP, so could be regarded as off topic. So I'll try to address that...

I just tried to write down my thoughts on my own reactions to this issue. Any time I have tried to write a post about this on similar threads I find I just get myself tied up in knots. I realised I could not give a nuanced response without writing a long essay, if at all.

So I just deleted everything I wrote and all I can say is good luck to anyone that really feels they can understand all the complicated, inter-related issues regarding gender identity and sexuality.

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I've realised my previous post on this thread was directed at the brewing argument about why TS's occur without responding to the OP, so could be regarded as off topic. So I'll try to address that...

I just tried to write down my thoughts on my own reactions to this issue. Any time I have tried to write a post about this on similar threads I find I just get myself tied up in knots. I realised I could not give a nuanced response without writing a long essay, if at all.

So I just deleted everything I wrote and all I can say is good luck to anyone that really feels they can understand all the complicated, inter-related issues regarding gender identity and sexuality.
The nuances of this thread are pretty simple though Londoner can't understand somebody else's sexual preferences or did I miss something?

We get this every few months: "TS are men with tits", "it's gay" etc. First of all I've no issue with this opinion nor do I think those sort of comments hint at sexual repression. I'm not sure ignorance even comes into it, as an opinion has been formed. Although I do think the TS politics goes too far when it is forced on primary school aged children, but this isn't off topic.

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Exactly. A straight person would not be seeing TS's. By definition that would mean that they are not wholly straight.

This is a sensitive topic, and has the potential to offend people (un-intentionally), which is why many folk on this thread, including myself, have used the expression "To each his own". It's okay to be non-straight. In the same way that it's okay to be straight. Sadly, the cancer of political correctness is creeping into every aspect of our lives, and the situation is that currently :

- a non-Muslim cannot talk about Islam [expect to say "Islam is a religion of peace"] without being called a Islamophone
- a European cannot talk about immigration [except to say "Mass immigration is good"] without being called a racist
- a white person cannot talk about Trump [except to say "Trump is a moron"] without being called a White Nationalist
- a straight person cannot talk about homosexuality [Except to say.....insert suitable phrase here] without being called a homophobe.

There are signs of this last situation on this very thread. And that's a shame cos it disables discussion. I'm straight. I'm not anymore homophobic than a homosexual person is "hetero-phobic". And here it comes...... to each his own.

There are things that I genuinely am unaware of when it comes to TS's or homosexuality and if someone like me naively asks a question, or makes a comment in the spirit of wanting to understand pls don't take it as homophobia. Eg. a poster on page 1 of this thread mentioned that he likes men sucking his cock and he likes to suck off other men, but he is not homosexual. To me, this is a paradox - surely, the very definition of homosexuality is a man having sexual interactions with another man. Of course, the poster is most like bi-sexual, but there is an aspect of homosexuality when he is sucking on another mans dick. It seems almost as if poster himself is more embarrassed by the term homosexual than other people are. Whether he is homosexual, bi-sexual or whatever term is the most appropriate, is totally his choice, and his alone. I'm certainly not one to judge him on that. I just want to understand how it's possible for a straight male to have sex with another male with a penis, and think the whole transaction was straight.
I've had all of those arguments face to face and never been called names. It's how you present it or maybe stop having arguments outside mosques and vegan cafes.