Ugly Mugs site.

[sim0256]

Has any punter ever asked a SP , they know well,  to check if they ( the punter ) have any comments about them on the Ugly Mugs site.

I believe most WGs use it , often to check out new clients.

[FLYING BLUE]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?action=searchposts2

[sim0256]

 I wasn't aware , obviously, of this earlier thread. There are a lot of very old posts on it .

Maybe this new post might encourage some new experiences to be shown.

[lillythesavage]

I would imagine you would have no reason to ask unless you have given reason to be on it  .

[sim0256]

Lily , no i'm not but a reg a know well told me she discoverd a punter who she blocked some time ago showed up on it after she had blocked him.  The conversation went from there  and she said ' you're OK , I've checked ' Said as a joke.
I don't think I have ever or would ever behave in a manner to get myself on it.  I've too much respect for you girls , but I do see the point in your comment.  I'm just interested in the comments that might follow.. Many might not even be aware pf the site.

[Hottest Kat]

This is the only safety net we have. Why would you post this?
If you are on it the police are probably looking for you as its for serious crimes against sexworkers,.

[sim0256]

As said above I'm not, Perhaps if more punters knew of it they might behave better.

[finn5555]

This is the only safety net we have. Why would you post this?
If you are on it the police are probably looking for you as its for serious crimes against sexworkers,.

Due to prossies being known to post malicious reports 

[Hottest Kat]

I cant see many malicious reports being made on ugly mugs as rape claims, robbery and assault will be followed up by police as a serious crime.

[finn5555]

I cant see many malicious reports being made on ugly mugs as rape claims, robbery and assault will be followed up by police as a serious crime.

I wouldn't put anything past a vindictive individual Kat 

[Hottest Kat]

If youre worried youve been maliciously reported contact the police. They will soon let you know. Why try and bring down the only safety net we have left.

[finn5555]

If youre worried youve been maliciously reported contact the police. They will soon let you know. Why try and bring down the only safety net we have.

Not sure if that is aimed at me, I am not trying to bring down anything I am simply stating like anything else its open to abuse.

[Hottest Kat]

This is for serious life threatening crimes. It saves lives. If youre on there its 99.9999% sure that youve done something wrong. Whos going to report a serious crime just to get back at a client? 1 or 2 out of thousands? Malicious reports would be made on other safety apps where reporting is anonymous

[finn5555]

This is for serious life threatening crimes. It saves lives. If youre on there its 99.9999% sure that youve done something wrong. Whos going to report a serious crime just to get back at a client? 1 or 2 out of thousands? Malicious reports would be made on other safety apps where reporting is anonymous

Your missing my point or you’re deluded 🤦🏼‍♂️

[Hottest Kat]

Seriously? If i get assaulted and robbed and make a report to police then a warning gets issued via uglymugs with some identifying info to warn other girls but because of ukp encouraging guys to find out if theyre on that site, the attacker is able to change certain details about himself and go on and attack (or worse) another sexworker, whos fault would that be? Would the OP feel bad? I know i would feel absolutely horrific if i had started this thread.
This isnt like the other anonymous safety app. Its to inform us about crimes against sex workers that have been reportedto police.

[stevesucks69]

Your missing my point or you’re deluded 🤦🏼‍♂️

I think its you who is missing the point, service providers can use clienteye for the reason you suggest whereas if they used uglymugs and report things to the police falsely they themselves could get in trouble.
 Remember its them who are putting themselves at risk for our enjoyment (yes and for ££ too) but its them at a greater risk of physical abuse not you

[finn5555]

I think its you who is missing the point, service providers can use clienteye for the reason you suggest whereas if they used uglymugs and report things to the police falsely they themselves could get in trouble.
 Remember its them who are putting themselves at risk for our enjoyment (yes and for ££ too) but its them at a greater risk of physical abuse not you

You’re missing the point as well 🤦🏼‍♂️ I am saying it is open for potential abuse like any other site.
Nothing is foolproof 

[daviemac]

Your missing my point or you’re deluded 🤦🏼‍♂️

As said above, it's you who's deluded, UglyMugs is totally different to ClientEye or SAAFE, they work closely with the police who investigate reports made by sex workers.

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If the OP feels the need to have an escort check if he's been reported on there he must be one hell of a dodgy fucker.   

[finn5555]

As said above, it's you who's deluded, UglyMugs is totally different to ClientEye or SAAFE, they work closely with the police who investigate reports made by sex workers.

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If the OP feels the need to have an escort check if he's been reported on there he must be one hell of a dodgy fucker.

So you are saying with 100% confidence that UglyMugs would never be open to abuse .... maybe its you who is deluded as nothing (in my opinion) is perfect 

[daviemac]

So you are saying with 100% confidence that UglyMugs would never be open to abuse .... maybe its you who is deluded as nothing (in my opinion) is perfect 

No that's not what I'm saying at all, what I am saying is UglyMugs is there to report more serious things than timewasters etc. it's to report dangerous punters and if an escort reports a dangerous punter then the police will investigate.

If you can't understand the difference between reporting a crime via UglyMugs and maliciously reporting a timewaster on ClientEye perhaps you should look into it a bit more.

Yes, nothing is foolproof but if a false report is made on ClientEye then nothing happens, make a false report on UglyMugs and the police can prosecute the person reporting, so it's far less likely that such reports would be made to UglyMugs. It's all down to what is reported on each platform.  UglyMugs - serious,  ClietEye - timewasters etc.

[finn5555]

Yes, nothing is foolproof

Then your accusation of me being deluded is wrong.

[MissWolf]

So you are saying with 100% confidence that UglyMugs would never be open to abuse .... maybe its you who is deluded as nothing (in my opinion) is perfect 

Nobody is saying its perfect so stop trying to be awkward,  you are like a child at times with your 'I'm right your wrong shite'

What they are saying is that it is as near to as possible and it is very very unlikely to be abused because of the process and the safeguards in place.

Threads like this just make the person starting them look dodgy as fuck and do absolutely nothing to help or improve Sex worker safety within the industry,  they undermine all of the good working by organisations like NUM

If you are a tidy client and a decent guy then you have absolutely nothing to worry about, I have never understood the need for guys to ask their 'regulars' or any other sex worker to check apps for info about them and equally so I've never understood why a SW would discuss it with a client 

[finn5555]

 you are like a child at times with your 'I'm right your wrong shite'

Bit rich coming from you 

[MissWolf]

Bit rich coming from you 

Nope I'm absolutely fine with admitting when I'm wrong

[daviemac]

Then your accusation of me being deluded is wrong.

No, not in my opinion it isn't. You are doing what you normally do and that's being as controversial as you can. On this thread because an escort has commented you say it's open to abuse, yet on another thread on the subject, because of abusive punters, you appeared to be in favour of it, make your mind up.

On the other thread an escort relayed what sort of things she had been notified of, including rapes and assaults, not really the sort of thing that could be reported maliciously.

To put it into perspective a little, in the last 5 emails I have gotten there are - 2 police alerts, 1 report from a male SP, an anal rape, and an assault.

So yeah, not really a thing to post bollocks on.

Pro$$ies take risks and some cunts feel they can abuse them as they are paying 
No matter what your peccadillo you should always ensure it’s consensual and then we can all enjoy ourselves 

UglyMugs is there for then to report exactly the type of thing you mention above.

[finn5555]

No, not in my opinion it isn't. You are doing what you normally do and that's being as controversial as you can. On this thread because an escort has commented you say it's open to abuse, yet on another thread on the subject, because of abusive punters, you appeared to be in favour of it, make your mind up.

On the other thread an escort relayed what sort of things she had been notified of, including rapes and assaults, not really the sort of thing that could be reported maliciously.

ClientEye is there for then to report exactly the type of thing you mention above.

I totally support anything that protects people from crime, far from controversial I am simply stating that anything is open to abuse.

The escort alluded to it being 100% reliable I challenged her on that (or is that wrong in your eyes)

[daviemac]

I totally support anything that protects people from crime, far from controversial I am simply stating that anything is open to abuse.

The escort alluded to it being 100% reliable I challenged her on that (or is that wrong in your eyes)

This is what you said -

Due to prossies being known to post malicious reports

Now can you provide evidence to back up the statement that escorts have reported to UglyMugs maliciously? or is it just an assumption on your part. 

[tynetunnel]

This is exactly the kind of shite that got finn5555 onto my ignore list! 

[finn5555]

This is what you said -
Now can you provide evidence to back up the statement that escorts have reported to UglyMugs maliciously? or is it just an assumption on your part. 

Davie I know what I said and they have I am sure somewhere on this forum it’s been stated before, will I trawl through it to find it no.

Besides we are not discussing client eye

[finn5555]

This is what you said -
Now can you provide evidence to back up the statement that escorts have reported to UglyMugs maliciously? or is it just an assumption on your part. 

Coincidentally, where did I say people had posted maliciously on UglyMugs? What I was saying, if you read back is that it is potentially open to abuse.

[daviemac]

Davie I know what I said and they have I am sure somewhere on this forum it’s been stated before, will I trawl through it to find it no.

Besides we are not discussing client eye

There you go I've corrected the typo.

By evidence I mean something that can be substantiated, not somebody like you just making accusations.

Just so there is no misunderstanding, we are discussing UglyMugs as in the title of the thread.

[finn5555]

There you go I've corrected the typo.

By evidence I mean something that can be substantiated, not somebody like you just making accusations.

Just so there is no misunderstanding, we are discussing UglyMugs as in the title of the thread.

So your saying I made an accusation that ugly mugs has been abused?

[MissWolf]

Coincidentally, where did I say people had posted maliciously on UglyMugs? What I was saying, if you read back is that it is potentially open to abuse.

This thread is about UglyMugs

And you are peddaling backwards faster than a desperate man heading for a waterfall,  its what you do every time, you throw in some shite comment about prossies then you can't back it up so go on the defensive instead of admitting you were wrong g......its the Finn show 

[JD1]

So your saying I made an accusation that ugly mugs has been abused?

Due to prossies being known to post malicious reports 

I would quit if I were you.

[finn5555]

This thread is about UglyMugs

That is what I said   

[finn5555]

I would quit if I were you.

Where did i specifically say UglyMugs 

[JD1]

Where did i specifically say UglyMugs 

Besides we are not discussing client eye

You seem to be aware this thread is about Ugly Mugs and commented in that context 

[finn5555]

You seem to be aware this thread is about Ugly Mugs and commented in that context 

My statement was it COULD be abused I never said it had been abused 

[daviemac]

So your saying I made an accusation that ugly mugs has been abused?

That's exactly what I'm saying, because that is what you said, read the words you posted.

"Due to prossies being known to post malicious reports "

You have made the statement that 'prossies' are known to post malicious reports and I'm asking you for evidence to substantiate that claim.

You do class a malicious reporting an abuse of the system don't you??   

[daviemac]

Where did i specifically say UglyMugs 

You're priceless.   

[JD1]

My statement was it COULD be abused I never said it had been abused 

You're now just into arguing semantics rather than admitting you were wrong. Pointless conversation at this point.

[finn5555]

You're priceless.   

Explain as your clearly confused

[finn5555]

You're now just into arguing semantics rather than admitting you were wrong. Pointless conversation at this point.

OK tell me where, in your eyes, I am wrong?

Maybe I am but let’s have your take on it

[MissWolf]

My statement was it COULD be abused I never said it had been abused 

Row Row Row your boat gently down the streamRow that fucker faster Finn your almost at that waterfall

[daviemac]

Explain as your clearly confused

It's very simple really, you make the statement on a thread about UglyMugs that "prossies are know to post malicious reports" and that it's open to abuse then change it to you never said you were talking about UglyMugs, it isn't open to abuse only potentially open to abuse and then deny you said that malicious reports are known to be made.

And you say I'm confused.   

Have the courage of your convictions stick to and back up the claims you have made or have a think about it and see if by any chance you might be wrong.

[JD1]

OK tell me where, in your eyes, I am wrong?

Maybe I am but let’s have your take on it

You said it was ‘known’ that ‘prossies’ post false reports on there.

This is not known and you have no evidence of this. You have since back tracked and are now saying it ‘could’ be abused.

This is a serious safety tool linked to police reports for sexual offences and not something the average punter should be concerned with.

[finn5555]

You said it was ‘known’ that ‘prossies’ post false reports on there.

Where did I say this? My statement was they have been know to post false reports I was not specifically saying on UglyMugs, if I worded it to sound like I meant UglyMugs then yes I’m wrong 

[JD1]

Where did I say this? My statement was they have been know to post false reports I was not specifically saying on UglyMugs, if I worded it to sound like I meant UglyMugs then yes I’m wrong 

There you go.

Sounds like we’re now in agreement and there is no need to check to see if you’re on UglyMugs.

[finn5555]

There you go.

Sounds like we’re now in agreement and there is no need to check to see if you’re on UglyMugs.

For fucks sake I didn’t say I wanted to check 😂😂😂

I know I won’t be

[JD1]

For fucks sake I didn’t say I wanted to check 😂😂😂

Not you specifically, I meant in general.