GFE Tiffany - Old Street

[Expl1cit]

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I've seen Tiffany a total of eleven times, which is something of a rarity for me and puts her into an elite club of escorts that I have seen more than two or three times.  Its not in my character to develop EAS for any escort, including Tiffany, but she was one of my favourites!  She looks fantastic and is blessed with an awesome set of natural 34DD's.  My preference is usually small Bs or Cs but I loved her boobs, fucking sensational.

From the first visit, she provided a perfect GFE - lots of french kissing and OWO, very responsive and fresh tasting in RO, sex was always energetic and she knew what I enjoyed.  One of the main reasons I saw her so frequently was her personality, always smiling with a great dry sense of humour.  It makes a massive difference for me on a punt to feel comfortable and relaxed so overall she provided a package which was difficult to compete with.

My last visit recently confirmed something which always bothered me about her, which I overlooked previously - her time management!  The clock starts when you arrive at the door or maybe even slightly earlier.  Once in the room, she disappears off with the money and comes back several minutes later after getting dressed/undressed to just her lingerie.  Its a well rehearsed routine to waste time, I could sometimes even hear her pacing up and down the hallway before she comes back in the room. Finally the alarm goes off five minutes before the hour is up and thats a wrap on the session.  To top it off, she charges 120 per hour which is at the higher end of the scale - even her flatmates both charge 100.  It really fucking bothers me, not the price but the time issue 

I never like to overstay my welcome and I can even understand why some girls who are controlled by a maid or pimp have to manage the clock but for me, a regular who visits so frequently, spends a good majority of the session not engaged in sexual activities and with Tiffany being seemingly indepedent, she can't even give me my full paid for time, and subconciously makes me paranoid about the clock! 

We get along really well, have some good laughs together so she is obviously comfortable in my company.  Is it too much to ask that she gives me the full hour 

[peter purves]

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I've seen Tiffany a total of eleven times, which is something of a rarity for me and puts her into an elite club of escorts that I have seen more than two or three times.  Its not in my character to develop EAS for any escort, including Tiffany, but she was one of my favourites!  She looks fantastic and is blessed with an awesome set of natural 34DD's.  My preference is usually small Bs or Cs but I loved her boobs, fucking sensational.

From the first visit, she provided a perfect GFE - lots of french kissing and OWO, very responsive and fresh tasting in RO, sex was always energetic and she knew what I enjoyed.  One of the main reasons I saw her so frequently was her personality, always smiling with a great dry sense of humour.  It makes a massive difference for me on a punt to feel comfortable and relaxed so overall she provided a package which was difficult to compete with.

My last visit recently confirmed something which always bothered me about her, which I overlooked previously - her time management!  The clock starts when you arrive at the door or maybe even slightly earlier.  Once in the room, she disappears off with the money and comes back several minutes later after getting dressed/undressed to just her lingerie.  Its a well rehearsed routine to waste time, I could sometimes even hear her pacing up and down the hallway before she comes back in the room. Finally the alarm goes off five minutes before the hour is up and thats a wrap on the session.  To top it off, she charges 120 per hour which is at the higher end of the scale - even her flatmates both charge 100.  It really fucking bothers me, not the price but the time issue 

I never like to overstay my welcome and I can even understand why some girls who are controlled by a maid or pimp have to manage the clock but for me, a regular who visits so frequently, spends a good majority of the session not engaged in sexual activities and with Tiffany being seemingly indepedent, she can't even give me my full paid for time, and subconciously makes me paranoid about the clock! 

We get along really well, have some good laughs together so she is obviously comfortable in my company.  Is it too much to ask that she gives me the full hour 

This made very interesting reading and raises the question does being a regular necessarily lead to 'perks'?

Personally, I think you have to ask her, even if the question may not go down too well.

[Expl1cit]

This made very interesting reading and raises the question does being a regular necessarily lead to 'perks'?

Personally, I think you have to ask her, even if the question may not go down too well.

It's not nice being taken for granted in or outside the world of punting

Regulars should not expect any perks but they should get, as a minimum, the full paid for booking without the usual tactics - which is my main issue.  On the subject of perks for regulars - there is a currently a discussion over on UKE about this topic, where the majority of escort members allude to offering a more relaxed experience with timing and some offer small discounts which are always a welcome gesture.

I did discuss the issue with Tiffany, which I won't get into in detail but reading between the lines, I would assume she has become desensitised to the industry and is busy enough not to care too much about losing one of many regs.  This neutral for me is closure and I wish her all the best.

[peter purves]

Regulars should not expect any perks but they should get, as a minimum, the full paid for booking without the usual tactics - which is my main issue.  On the subject of perks for regulars - there is a currently a discussion over on UKE about this topic, where the majority of escort members allude to offering a more relaxed experience with timing and some offer small discounts which are always a welcome gesture.

I did discuss the issue with Tiffany, which I won't get into in detail but reading between the lines, I would assume she has become desensitised to the industry and is busy enough not to care too much about losing one of many regs.  This neutral for me is closure and I wish her all the best.

As for perks (good point you raise), I meant it in the context, I can see her doing this behaviour to all her non-regular customers, but would assume it might change for a regular...Guess not!!

I was also going to suggest not seeing her again, but after seeing her 11 times, I thought you had wanted to continue the punting relationship albeit in terms of a proper service.

View it as her loss 

[Expl1cit]

As for perks (good point you raise), I meant it in the context, I can see her doing this behaviour to all her non-regular customers, but would assume it might change for a regular...Guess not!!

I was also going to suggest not seeing her again, but after seeing her 11 times, I thought you had wanted to continue the punting relationship albeit in terms of a proper service.

View it as her loss 

The punting relationship, for want of a better word, was seriously blemished by the minor disagreement - on both sides.  Still, I did want to see her again because it is such a convenient location, and her availability at short notice late at night when I am most active saves me browsing AW and hitting up with a lemon, BUT i've just had a major cleanup of my WG contacts & AW hotlist - Tiffany has gone from both and this neutral nails the coffin firmly closed.

I'm actually changing my entire punting strategy for 2017, going to give SeekingArrangement a proper go, I think its more suited to me and the type of girls that get me excited.

[peter purves]

The punting relationship, for want of a better word, was seriously blemished by the minor disagreement - on both sides.  Still, I did want to see her again because it is such a convenient location, and her availability at short notice late at night when I am most active saves me browsing AW and hitting up with a lemon, BUT i've just had a major cleanup of my WG contacts & AW hotlist - Tiffany has gone from both and this neutral nails the coffin firmly closed.

I'm actually changing my entire punting strategy for 2017, going to give SeekingArrangement a proper go, I think its more suited to me and the type of girls that get me excited.

Good luck with that!

Btw what is SeekingArrangement?

Cheers

[Expl1cit]

Good luck with that!

Btw what is SeekingArrangement?

Cheers

Seeking Arrangement (SA) is a Sugar Daddy website which has gained serious traction on UKP.  Its currently the most viewed and replied thread on this forum, it lives in Off-Topic.  I've always been very sceptical about it but given how many reviews and comments exist, I have changed my mind 

Despite being a punter, I have little interest in 'prostitutes' - the type with fake boobs, slutty attire and long enjoys list which seem to fill up AW.  I can count on one hand, those escorts who I have seen that really get my juices flowing - usually TOFTT punts of girls who are very new to the escorting world.

I don't consider myself old enough or rich enough to be a Sugar Daddy but the thought of meeting regular girl next door types who do this part time, excites me! It would usually be much better value and much more relaxed on timing than a professional prostitute charges.  The downsides are of course having to put in more a lot more effort in finding the good realistic ones and by passing the dreamers.  Also not being able to punt on demand as I can do now but I think it would be a lot of fun.  I'm signing up to a premium membership for £40 to give it a whirl in December and then really go for it in 2017 

[peter purves]

Seeking Arrangement (SA) is a Sugar Daddy website which has gained serious traction on UKP.  Its currently the most viewed and replied thread on this forum, it lives in Off-Topic.  I've always been very sceptical about it but given how many reviews and comments exist, I have changed my mind 

Despite being a punter, I have little interest in 'prostitutes' - the type with fake boobs, slutty attire and long enjoys list which seem to fill up AW.  I can count on one hand, those escorts who I have seen that really get my juices flowing - usually TOFTT punts of girls who are very new to the escorting world.

I don't consider myself old enough or rich enough to be a Sugar Daddy but the thought of meeting regular girl next door types who do this part time, excites me! It would usually be much better value and much more relaxed on timing than a professional prostitute charges.  The downsides are of course having to put in more a lot more effort in finding the good realistic ones and by passing the dreamers.  Also not being able to punt on demand as I can do now but I think it would be a lot of fun.  I'm signing up to a premium membership for £40 to give it a whirl in December and then really go for it in 2017 

Cheers, sounds very interesting. I may have to have a look into this myself.

Do keep us posted here and once again all the very best mate 

[mrhappypants]

Exp1icit, if you will forgive the direct, you sound seriously up yourself.  You are paying for sex, just like the rest of us.  Tiff will pass you over for an easier £120 in the hour as soon as the next girl. 

It is called punting, not romancing.

[Expl1cit]

Exp1icit, if you will forgive the direct, you sound seriously up yourself.  You are paying for sex, just like the rest of us.  Tiff will pass you over for an easier £120 in the hour as soon as the next girl. 

It is called punting, not romancing.

If you forgive the direct - you sound like you are defending the actions of a prostitute on a punting forum, with the logic that it is acceptable for her to use time wasting tactics that take 10 minutes of each booking.  Digging just a little deeper, we find you left a glowing positive feedback for the "young hourglass sweetie" just one week ago who you refer to on this thread as Tiff not Tiffany - how very cute 

Where you get the notion of romancing from and me being passed over for an easier £120, is a strange one.  It has fuck all to do with me getting my full paid for time which is why I left the review and made it a neutral.

[mrhappypants]

Touché, but I suggest you read my review a little more carefully.

[Belgarion]

If you forgive the direct - you sound like you are defending the actions of a prostitute on a punting forum, with the logic that it is acceptable for her to use time wasting tactics that take 10 minutes of each booking.  Digging just a little deeper, we find you left a glowing positive feedback for the "young hourglass sweetie" just one week ago who you refer to on this thread as Tiff not Tiffany - how very cute 

Where you get the notion of romancing from and me being passed over for an easier £120, is a strange one.  It has fuck all to do with me getting my full paid for time which is why I left the review and made it a neutral.

You will have to forgive dave, he's high maintenance.

I personally would stop seeing her to be honest. Most ladies I see frequently tend to make things easier, not harder or more of the same.

The time wasting is not on

[claretandblue]

Seeing the same girl over and over again is just bonkers, I have seen a few of the "angels" as they were known and it goes without saying that they don't rush you and you get your full time if not in some cases quite a bit more.

For you to get rushed out and then to talk about the "relationship "you have with her is ridiculous  , sorry you have been had

[Expl1cit]

Seeing the same girl over and over again is just bonkers, I have seen a few of the "angels" as they were known and it goes without saying that they don't rush you and you get your full time if not in some cases quite a bit more.

For you to get rushed out and then to talk about the "relationship "you have with her is ridiculous  , sorry you have been had

As I said in my opening line of the review - it is extremely rare for me to see the same girl multiple times, but Tiffany was one of the exceptions due to her location, availability and personality.  The visits were spread out to around three meets a month since her return in August, which considering how many punts i've done in that same period is largely insignificant.

I never mentioned any fucking "relationship" with her haha.  I clearly emphasised it was a punting relationship and added "for want of a better word" 

Maybe "I was had" or more likely this is just her style to clockwatch - either way it doesn't matter now.  For me I don't appreciate being short changed and losing between 5-10 mins, which over eleven visits adds up to quite a bit when you are paying an effective rate of £2/min.  If she does this with every punter, her effective hourly rate goes very close to 150.

[claretandblue]

As I said in my opening line of the review - it is extremely rare for me to see the same girl multiple times, but Tiffany was one of the exceptions due to her location, availability and personality.  The visits were spread out to around three meets a month since her return in August, which considering how many punts i've done in that same period is largely insignificant.

I never mentioned any fucking "relationship" with her haha.  I clearly emphasised it was a punting relationship and added "for want of a better word" 

Maybe "I was had" or more likely this is just her style to clockwatch - either way it doesn't matter now.  For me I don't appreciate being short changed and losing between 5-10 mins, which over eleven visits adds up to quite a bit when you are paying an effective rate of £2/min.  If she does this with every punter, her effective hourly rate goes very close to 150.

"You get on really well and have loads of laughs" but she rushes you out the door early?

As I said she played you 

[Expl1cit]

"You get on really well and have loads of laughs" but she rushes you out the door early?

As I said she played you 

If that helps you sleep better at night, then sure I will 'agree' that I got played.  I hope that makes you feel better, to kick a fellow punter to get some self satisfaction for yourself 

Luckily for me, I don't take things personally.  Similar to another punter on this thread, you also left a glowing positive for Tiffany earlier this month which explains why you decided to contribute to this thread.  Your review even made note how you ran over by 10mins. Wow! Well done!

I never claimed to be rushed out the door early.  On the contrary, I specifically referred to her routine of taking her time to return back from stashing the money, which pissed me off.  This may be less noticeable for those punters who have a shower on arrival as it would coincide with her routine - but for me, I always turn up to punts freshly showered & ready to get started but always find myself twiddling my thumbs waiting for her to return.  Similarly the five minute alarm to signal the end of the punt, gives those punters who want a shower at the end a chance to do so - but again for me, I always shower when I get home which she knows, but still winds down proceedings.  She is so concious of time, it makes me uncomfortable and that is one issue above all others that I can't accept. 

Still its nothing compared to my experience with Petite Sami on our second visit, which was so absurd it was funny.  We started off with a shared shower, and after a while my fingers started going wrinkly and I said lets go fuck.  She said ok you dry off, i'll just be a minute and she proceeded to stay under the shower for several more minutes.  Finally I snapped and said lets fucking go.  In her final time wasting effort, she went downstairs to get her body creme and I could hear her saying i'm coming, just a minute, just a minute.  She then ran up the spiral staircase like Usain Bolt and claimed she was now ready to fuck 

Briefly back on Tiffany, to conclude on a positive note, she remains one of my favourite escorts, just for this one moment.  After my fiery rant about her time management as I was leaving, she said kiss me.  I kissed her on the cheek and was walking towards the door.  She looked at me again and said KISS ME, and she then initiated a very passionate DFK exchange, before smiling to herself.  She almost had me 

[HighlyMotivated]

Reading between the lines I think OP did develop a bit of EAS for this girl and it just took a bit of time to snap out of it. It can't just be the timekeeping thing as surely it wouldn't take you 11 meets to realise that

The part about her walking up and down the hallway to waste time is just brutal. I would cancel the punt if it was that blatant I grossed her out so much

[Expl1cit]

Reading between the lines I think OP did develop a bit of EAS for this girl and it just took a bit of time to snap out of it. It can't just be the timekeeping thing as surely it wouldn't take you 11 meets to realise that

The part about her walking up and down the hallway to waste time is just brutal. I would cancel the punt if it was that blatant I grossed her out so much

My psychiatrist and my last two girlfriends would counter-argue your EAS theory by reading the actual lines, and concluding I have attachment disorder, a condition in which individuals have difficulty forming lasting relationships. They often show nearly a complete lack of ability to be genuinely affectionate with others.

I realised her timekeeping issues from as early as the third visit and we argued about it back then, but the last episode brought things to a head for me.  I very much liked the walking up and down the hallway, getting herself mentally prepared for the next 55 minutes haha.  If I blatently grossed her out, then she deserves a fucking Oscar for the subsequent performances 

[HighlyMotivated]

My psychiatrist and my last two girlfriends would counter-argue your EAS theory by reading the actual lines, and concluding I have attachment disorder, a condition in which individuals have difficulty forming lasting relationships. They often show nearly a complete lack of ability to be genuinely affectionate with others.

I realised her timekeeping issues from as early as the third visit and we argued about it back then, but the last episode brought things to a head for me.  I very much liked the walking up and down the hallway, getting herself mentally prepared for the next 55 minutes haha.  If I blatently grossed her out, then she deserves a fucking Oscar for the subsequent performances 

Wasn't having a dig, I've caught looks on WG's faces before that betrayed their otherwise excellent acting abilities. You're right, some girls do deserve Oscars for their performances

Don't know why you're talking about your psychiatrist or girlfriends reading the lines  no one would read this review and think wow, expl1cit has serious attachment disorder. More the opposite...

[claretandblue]

If that helps you sleep better at night, then sure I will 'agree' that I got played.  I hope that makes you feel better, to kick a fellow punter to get some self satisfaction for yourself 

Luckily for me, I don't take things personally.  Similar to another punter on this thread, you also left a glowing positive for Tiffany earlier this month which explains why you decided to contribute to this thread.  Your review even made note how you ran over by 10mins. Wow! Well done!

I never claimed to be rushed out the door early.  On the contrary, I specifically referred to her routine of taking her time to return back from stashing the money, which pissed me off.  This may be less noticeable for those punters who have a shower on arrival as it would coincide with her routine - but for me, I always turn up to punts freshly showered & ready to get started but always find myself twiddling my thumbs waiting for her to return.  Similarly the five minute alarm to signal the end of the punt, gives those punters who want a shower at the end a chance to do so - but again for me, I always shower when I get home which she knows, but still winds down proceedings.  She is so concious of time, it makes me uncomfortable and that is one issue above all others that I can't accept. 

Still its nothing compared to my experience with Petite Sami on our second visit, which was so absurd it was funny.  We started off with a shared shower, and after a while my fingers started going wrinkly and I said lets go fuck.  She said ok you dry off, i'll just be a minute and she proceeded to stay under the shower for several more minutes.  Finally I snapped and said lets fucking go.  In her final time wasting effort, she went downstairs to get her body creme and I could hear her saying i'm coming, just a minute, just a minute.  She then ran up the spiral staircase like Usain Bolt and claimed she was now ready to fuck 

Briefly back on Tiffany, to conclude on a positive note, she remains one of my favourite escorts, just for this one moment.  After my fiery rant about her time management as I was leaving, she said kiss me.  I kissed her on the cheek and was walking towards the door.  She looked at me again and said KISS ME, and she then initiated a very passionate DFK exchange, before smiling to herself.  She almost had me 

I sleep fine thanks, and I certainly wasn't looking for any satisfaction just stating my view,as for you referencing my review aa a reason for me replying that's just childish   

One last thing on the matter,if your replies on this thread are anything to go by I would suggest punting is probably not a pursuit for you,hopefully seeking arrangement works out better for you 

[Expl1cit]

Wasn't having a dig, I've caught looks on WG's faces before that betrayed their otherwise excellent acting abilities. You're right, some girls do deserve Oscars for their performances

Don't know why you're talking about your psychiatrist or girlfriends reading the lines  no one would read this review and think wow, expl1cit has serious attachment disorder. More the opposite...

The problem with trying to read between the lines, is most of the time those who do, know absolutely fuck all about the individual.  In the real world, I split up with my two previous long-term girlfriends for reasons related to attachment disorder, and my last psychiatric evaluation concluded that I suffer from this very thing so its incredibly difficult for me to even contemplate EAS for a fucking prostiutute

At the same time, i'm not a sex addict who wants to hammer away for sixty minutes.  I prefer a more relaxed session, which usually involves more than just sucking and fucking that I can quite comfortably wrap up within half an hour.  How this translates into EAS I don't see the correlation.  11 visits seems a lot but as previously mentioned - it averaged out at 2-3 visits per month to Tiffany over the time period when I averaged 20 punts a month overall.

Anyway, appreciate you weren't having a dig 

[Expl1cit]

One last thing on the matter, if your replies on this thread are anything to go by I would suggest punting is probably not a pursuit for you,hopefully seeking arrangement works out better for you 

Columbo and Sherlock wrapped into one punter

- One last thing... Columbo
- If your replies are anything to go by, I would suggest punting is probably not a pursuit for you... Sherlock

I did specifically make a comment on this thread that punting wasn't working for me, so great to have some reassurances of my own thoughts 

I'm actually changing my entire punting strategy for 2017, going to give SeekingArrangement a proper go, I think its more suited to me and the type of girls that get me excited.

[mrhappypants]

One of the many great things about this board is that it provides a private place to talk about something that is both taboo and carries, for some, quite a degree of emotional risk - having sex with strangers as an strictly financial transaction.

I have found the comments of others on this board VERY helpful in keeping my mind right and being able to punt without getting fucked up by it.  I am not sure you will hear the advice Exp1icit but I will offer it anyway; listen past the tone of the comments here to what other punters are saying and you may find they are actually trying to help you. 

[Expl1cit]

I am not sure you will hear the advice Exp1icit but I will offer it anyway; listen past the tone of the comments here to what other punters are saying and you may find they are actually trying to help you.

What help could I possibly need? I don't think I need help - especially from a couple punters with conflicting positions that has the potential for white-knighting 

I didn't like her time management strategy, decided I had enough, left a neutral for balance and deleted her number.  Job done!  For me that is the beauty of punting - when something doesn't go as planned, you just walk away, no committments, no strings.  I put it down to an occupational hazard for me as a punter, a lack of patience and fuck loads of other options.

[claretandblue]

What help could I possibly need? I don't think I need help - especially from a couple punters with conflicting positions that has the potential for white-knighting 

I didn't like her time management strategy, decided I had enough, left a neutral for balance and deleted her number.  Job done!  For me that is the beauty of punting - when something doesn't go as planned, you just walk away, no committments, no strings.  I put it down to an occupational hazard for me as a punter, a lack of patience and fuck loads of other options.

  white knighting, I turn up on time, fuck and then go, first time I have ever had that accusation thrown in my direction

 I understand this is punting, not dating but going from what you have said I think you have gotten confused

[mrhappypants]

white knighting, I turn up on time, fuck and then go, first time I have ever had that accusation thrown in my direction

 I understand this is punting, not dating but going from what you have said I think you have gotten confused

+1

[Expl1cit]

What did one white knight say to the other? 

+1      

[Cuntminion]

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We get along really well, have some good laughs together so she is obviously comfortable in my company.  Is it too much to ask that she gives me the full hour 

I'm not ever gonna see shy tiffany and haven't so outsiders perspective your review seems very passive aggressive and you seem a little hurt

I specifically cut the rest to last paragraph to show that point and additionally your basing your expectations on rapport not money paid

Fools errand

[Expl1cit]

I'm not ever gonna see shy tiffany and haven't so outsiders perspective your review seems very passive aggressive and you seem a little hurt

I specifically cut the rest to last paragraph to show that point and additionally your basing your expectations on rapport not money paid

Fools errand

Interesting perspective 

One could argue that the majority, if not all, of Neutral and Negative reviews show some form of aggression or anger - which may be perceived as passive aggressive or hurt feelings.  Its too easy to call a spade a spade - everyone tries to read between the lines.  My last paragraph of the review was there to counteract typical responses on reasons why time management could be an issue, rather than basing my expectations on rapport - although the latter is a genuine expectation.  The main issue remains that for the money paid, I didn't always get my full paid for time.  Does it hurt me? No  Does it piss me off? Absolutely.

On a side note, its not in my nature to be an emotionless fuck and go type of punter.  I wish I was, I could just turn up when horny, book 30 mins, get what I need and fuck off.  However, I personally need to build up a rapport to feel comfortable - a confidence issue perhaps.  Generally over the 200+ punts i've had in the last 24 months its worked well, but by my own admissions, I punt far too frequently, spend far more than I want too and a few recent experiences, including Tiffany, have made me realise that punting is not for me - hence the move to Seeking Arrangement in 2017.  I can't wait