Naming and shaming WG's who don't reply to emails

[maxxblue]

How many people on here have had the experience on AW, for example, of sending an email to a WG enquiring about how to make a booking etc, only to see that the email has been deleted almost immediately by the WG without a response?

I suspect that most UKP members have experienced this, and that it is not just limited to AW.

Is it worth naming and shaming WG's who don't reply to emails from our members, a bit like we identify those with suspect profiles?

Not sure whether this would be best placed on the UK Punting section, or on the regional boards sections.

Here are some who have recently deleted my emails without replying, to get started:

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[EnglishRebecca121]

hm tricky one

i respond to 95 % of my emails, what i dont reply to are ones that ask for things i clearly dont offer as they havent read my profile. or ones that ask stupid questions already listed .

[maxxblue]

It's not a tricky one if I am simply asking how to arrange a booking.

For example, some of the examples I have given in the previous post ask for telephone bookings yet provide no telephone number, but when I politely ask the best way to make contact, my email is still deleted without a response.

By the way, in my business I also receive many emails, but as a professional I reply to 100% of them, even if I consider some of them to be ignorant. 

[EnglishRebecca121]

good for you but im sure if u got an email asking for bareback for the 5th time that day you wouldnt reply for haste of being rude!!

but yes i dont understand why someone wouldnt reply to an email if its not idiotic... not very good business sense.

[Steely Dan]

Is it worth naming and shaming WG's who don't reply to emails from our members,

In my view no.

Because 80% do this at times.  I'm not saying I approve, just saying this is a thing.  Easier to make a list of those who always reply.

But who cares, some of them (who respond) are ugly cows.  So I really don't want a list of girls with good email skills either.

So I think that the current lists of good escorts, and the excellent review system are fine.  If you do experience this, and they are on a list, why not add to the comments section?  A separate list is too complex.

[maxxblue]

good for you but im sure if u got an email asking for bareback for the 5th time that day you wouldnt reply for haste of being rude!!

but yes i dont understand why someone wouldnt reply to an email if its not idiotic... not very good business sense.

I am talking about WG's who either simply delete emails as soon as they receive them, or do not respond to reasonable enquiries, as I have indicated. I am not referring to the scenarios you refer to - not responding to puerile or offensive emails is one thing, but not responding to straightforward requests about how to book an appointment is just ignorant.

[vw]

Answer is all of them at one point will have ignored someone.

those 3 look shit profiles anyway don't think you will have missed much.

1 Is just lazy uninformative profile

2 Will be a B&S profile

3 From Africa !

[maxxblue]

Answer is all of them at one point will have ignored someone.

those 3 look shit profiles anyway don't think you will have missed much.

I know, I was just using them as examples.

[Scottish_Kara]

I try to reply to everyone. Even those who clearly have not read my profile and ask for times/days or services I do not offer. But sometimes all I get is "hi" or "can I see you now". Just drains me having to respond to every single message when no effort to read my profile or availability etc

Im not saying you fall into these categories.. but bare in mind just how many emails a wg gets each day.

[LL]

Shaming them?
Do you really think they'll feel any shame over it if named here?
If this is your chosen method of correspondence why not contact a few with the same message and forget about the ones that don't reply? Or if it's one that you've really got the horn for who hasn't replied - maybe give her a call?

I just don't see what the big deal is. They don't owe you a reply. Some will have good comms, some won't - it's just part of the game.

[RedKettle]

I agree with OP it is annoying - I have one at the moment that I have sent a polite enquiry to and it has not been read, after 2 weeks.

However I don't get that worked up about it, if they are crap at running their business that is their problem.  I just move on.

Indeed it is a useful screening device, if they cannot be bothered to deal with their emails then they probably will have a crap attitude if you met them.

Cannot really see an upside with a list of them, it would soon get too long and in any case why is it needed?  They self advertise it by not responding.

[rudolph hucker]

Annoying, yes. Shaming them........why waste your time, it's the nature of the beast, get used to it. I never understand punters who have fixations with a particular WG, there really is much more to life than holding a grudge against someone just for not replying to an email.
If they don't respond to enquiries, move on, there are plenty of others on the game to chose from.
After all, it's them who stand to not profit from your meeting, not you.

[James999]

A high percentage of non replies will be because the profile is FAKE and the girl not genuine, after all why would a genuine girl advertise and not respond to sensible enquiries.

[maxxblue]

Shaming them?
Do you really think they'll feel any shame over it if named here?
If this is your chosen method of correspondence why not contact a few with the same message and forget about the ones that don't reply? Or if it's one that you've really got the horn for who hasn't replied - maybe give her a call?

I just don't see what the big deal is. They don't owe you a reply. Some will have good comms, some won't - it's just part of the game.

I'm sure you are right about being shamed - it was more about making WG's think twice before ignoring emails. My usual method of contacting WG's is to call them, but often they don't include telephone numbers in their profile, which is when I will email them.

I do, in fact, blacklist WG's who ignore my emails, but still find it frustrating when their profile is otherwise appealing. 

[Arley Hall]

I do, in fact, blacklist WG's who ignore my emails, but still find it frustrating when their profile is otherwise appealing. 

Yes - I agree - it is frustrating. I often put a proposed appointment date and time in the subject line so that they can see that the email is worth looking at - but still it isn't opened, even though they've logged on. Obviously I only do this if I can't get through to them by phone.

[will-ow]

I agree its a pain but i dont think one girls bad day is worth having a bitch over . 

[Ramone78]

Its certainly annoying, but why name and shame ?
Surely its as easy to send a mail and hope for reply than it is to troll through and find out if the WG answers emails on a separate site.
If I'm looking for a meet a few days ahead I just copy and paste the same polite mail to the Girls I like the look of, and wait to see who replies.
Simples

[cockneybstrd]

While it is annoying not to get a response this does seem to have the possibility of veering into Ramrod Ronnie territory.

[threechilliman]

If I get no response to an AW message, I just move on now. Who's loss is it?

tcm

[oring123]

No point .
Move on !

[Horizontal pleasures]

Ladies who have their phone number listed often ignore emails.

I find that some ladies who do not reply to emails vanish from AW a day or two later. I started to think of them as 'a bird in the bush'. But they are certainly a problem if you only have a brief window of opportunity in time and or geography - and privacy to accept phone calls. When I write emails I ask ladies to text me back and indeed some do.

[godwulf7]

Sure, it seems a bit rude that WGs don't reply to your emails, but the normal rules and etiquette regarding correspondence a polite society hardly apply, do they?  How small, bitter and twisted does one have to be before you think 'Right - I'll teach that bitch not to ignore MY email!  Does she not know who I am???'  Over the many years I have been punting, I have made friends with some WGs, and have seen some of the ignorant, vile, depraved, stupid shit that some blokes send them.  Personally, I am unsurprised that many WGs become very cynical and hard-hearted after months, even years of such dehumanizing treatment, not just in emails, but on the phone and in person as well.  Sure, these women are in a profession where service provision is all, but you would have to have a heart of stone not to feel bad for what they must have to endure at times.  The weirdos, the personal hazards and the degradation etc. 

With the above in mind, is it any wonder that, upon reading email after email that ask what is explained already in their profile, or is just ignorant, perverted or stupid, they just go DELETE DELETE DELETE?  Would any of us NOT get to that point sooner or later?  Sure, it may cost them some business, but that is a judgement call for the individual WG to make.  And everybody has days where they think 'Aw fuck it - just GO AWAY!'  I certainly do!  To be honest, I'm amazed there are still so many lovely women out there still doing the job and putting up all the shit they endure from punters for money.  We all have a tipping point where we decide that whatever we're doing simply isn't worth the money we earn, so if all punters treated WGs as they would like to be treated themselves, over time, punters would have a wider choice of decent girls to visit.  The problem is, the test of character for anybody is how they behave and what they do when nobody is looking.  And punting is considered as a secret activity by most, so many punters, I suspect, will feel totally unconstrained in their bad behaviour towards WGs. 

So really, if your email receives no reply - man up and just get over it and move on.  Don't be a small,mean-spirited bitch about it! 

[mash]

No wonder they dont reply to you if your first thought is to start a thread naming and shaming them. I mean, seriously 

[vw]

While it is annoying not to get a response this does seem to have the possibility of veering into Ramrod Ronnie territory.

Yes, can see the prossie equivalent post , shame punters who email more than one girl at once how dare they not have the patience to wait until my reply.

[Arley Hall]

Haha - have pity on the poor poster who tries to second guess the mood of this board! One minute it's 'down with pro$$ies, they're complete bitches'. The next it's 'let's try to see it from their point of view'. Actually I rather incline towards the latter, but I think girls ought to make a bit more effort to distinguish between the twat punters and the genuine ones (i.e. me!) On the other hand I can understand that they have bad days when they just think 'fuck it!'

[hendrix]

Why would anyone care about a prossie not responding?

[cueball]

If I get no response to an AW message, I just move on now. Who's loss is it?

tcm

That's my take on it too, they get a couple of chances to reply then if not, into the bin she goes and I move on. My money seems quite welcome elsewhere.

[vw]

Why would anyone care about a prossie not responding?

This probably explains it

I never understand punters who have fixations with a particular WG

Possibly the same punters who start the where is X prossie threads.  Maybe others that read your reviews Hendrix and want to be you !

[claretandblue]

Waste of time especially if you are referring to girls who you haven't seen before,if they don't reply so what they don't owe you anything,  just move onto someone else. ..

[hendrix]

This probably explains it


Possibly the same punters who start the where is X prossie threads.  Maybe others that read your reviews Hendrix and want to be you !

They're welcome to be me right now, throat feels like I've gargled with razors 

[smiths]

My view is the same as some others, why bother, just move on, their loss. However, I don't waste my time emailing WGs in the first place so it makes no odds to me personally.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Why would anyone care about a prossie not responding?

because I was lusting after her.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=97829.0

[AnthG]

If I get no response to an AW message, I just move on now. Who's loss is it?

Why would anyone care about a prossie not responding?

Its certainly annoying, but why name and shame ?

My thoughts are I think we should name and shame. The reason why is, like James said above, by far and away the most likely reason they are doing this is due to them being a PG scammer.

And if for example someone else out there (i.e another punter) is thinking of booking them and thus buying their PG beforehand. But firstly googles their username /AW link they will find the topic saying they are someone who ignores their booking requests and likely a PG scammer and thus maybe not waste their money in the first place on them buying their PG when without that warning they may have bought it.

I have stopped buying them now. But when I did and (foolishly in hindsight) wasted hundreds on the things. The topic that Jacob started and maintained here on the forum posting all likely PG scammers was a godsend as due to that topic that is what I started doing (googling profiles to see if they were in that topic before buying any PGs).

But what these people do is setup a profile and "tour" the country with them trying to ream in as much cash as they can from it till it runs dry and they then do it again with a different profile. Its sometimes not easy to spot the PG scammers so if someone has experience they are a suspected one. I would say share it. In my opinion at least.

[hendrix]

My thoughts are I think we should name and shame. The reason why is, like James said above, by far and away the most likely reason they are doing this is due to them being a PG scammer.

And if for example someone else out there (i.e another punter) is thinking of booking them and thus buying their PG beforehand. But firstly googles their username /AW link they will find the topic saying they are someone who ignores their booking requests and likely a PG scammer and thus maybe not waste their money in the first place on them buying their PG when without that warning they may have bought it.

I have stopped buying them now. But when I did and (foolishly in hindsight) wasted hundreds on the things. The topic that Jacob started and maintained here on the forum posting all likely PG scammers was a godsend as due to that topic that is what I started doing (googling profiles to see if they were in that topic before buying any PGs).

But what these people do is setup a profile and "tour" the country with them trying to ream in as much cash as they can from it till it runs dry and they then do it again with a different profile. Its sometimes not easy to spot the PG scammers so if someone has experience they are a suspected one. I would say share it. In my opinion at least.

That makes sense, thanks Anth - but what happens when the girl clearly is genuine but doesn't respond for whatever reason ? I could see that just turning into a whinging "forum darling won't see me" thread.

[AnthG]

That makes sense, thanks Anth - but what happens when the girl clearly is genuine but doesn't respond for whatever reason? I could see that just turning into a whinging "forum darling won't see me" thread.

I know this possibly may make me sound bad saying this. But really this would be a lesson learned for her not to ignore punters booking request messages.

But before I get misunderstood on that above. The intention of the topic would be for punters to not openly and freely pay out for a PG gallery.  So if there was someone genuine out there who just ignored you for whatever personal reasons she had, and got mentioned in that topic. You would think if someone googled her there would be at least one review pop up for her sooner or later too to negate that inclusion.

I will say this happened to me two weeks ago. There was a girl on tour here in Newcastle that I messaged for a booking and she never replied at all. I checked later that day and she had moved to Dublin. I googled her AW profile and she had multiple good reviews so it seems what she was doing was just thinking to herself. I am not in Newcastle no more so am not going to waste my time replying to that booking enquiry email about a booking that day in Newcastle.

[hendrix]

I know this possibly may make me sound bad saying this. But really this would be a lesson learned for her not to ignore punters booking request messages.

But before I get misunderstood on that above. The intention of the topic would be for punters to not openly and freely pay out for a PG gallery.  So if there was someone genuine out there who just ignored you for whatever personal reasons she had, and got mentioned in that topic. You would think if someone googled her there would be at least one review pop up for her sooner or later too to negate that inclusion.

I will say this happened to me two weeks ago. There was a girl on tour here in Newcastle that I messaged for a booking and she never replied at all. I checked later that day and she had moved to Dublin. I googled her AW profile and she had multiple good reviews so it seems what she was doing was just thinking to herself. I am not in Newcastle no more so am not going to waste my time replying to that booking enquiry email about a booking that day in Newcastle.

I get that, and definitely PG scams should be called out. I'm just wary of the Mcfly types who meltdown and then act surprised and hurt that prossies ignore them. In the incident you describe, I think a really good pro would respond and say "sorry, maybe next time I'm in the area" - but I'm not sure she deserves naming and shaming either.

I understand that UKE is not for everyone here,  but I'd highly recommend a quick look at the "entertaining messages" thread. You could only either completely ignore some of those wankers or take the piss out of them if you were bored.

[Silver Birch]

Is it worth naming and shaming WG's who don't reply to emails from our members

No!

I have no wish to read punters bleating about how their email was ignored, unless it is a breakdown of communication AFTER a booking has been confirmed. If this results in uncertainty whether the punt will proceed, THEN naming and shaming is justified, but not if they simply failed to respond to an enquiry. Their loss.

[vw]

I get that, and definitely PG scams should be called out. I'm just wary of the Mcfly types who meltdown and then act surprised and hurt that prossies ignore them. In the incident you describe, I think a really good pro would respond and say "sorry, maybe next time I'm in the area" - but I'm not sure she deserves naming and shaming either.

I understand that UKE is not for everyone here,  but I'd highly recommend a quick look at the "entertaining messages" thread. You could only either completely ignore some of those wankers or take the piss out of them if you were bored.

Up to posters what they post on here at the end of the day, or what importance they place on each post. Not something I would place much importance on or bother posting links on. 

For some this is important, others not and in rare cases could be traumatic and be fantasy ruining for some punters !   

[hendrix]

Up to posters what they post on here at the end of the day, or what importance they place on each post. Not something I would place much importance on or bother posting links on. 

For some this is important, others not and in rare cases could be traumatic and be fantasy ruining for some punters !   

[AnthG]

Thinking further. I think people instead of posting on the forum, should just report the profile direct to AW direct of it being a PG scammer.

[oring123]

Only a few wg reply straight away miss kdd and Hailey are 2  of the best
Other range from later that day
Later that week
To not at all
None of these run pg scams
Apart from a few of
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