Giving punting in Scotland a pass

[Davey80]

So based north of Dundee for the past few years my usual punting landscape has been down the East Coast from Dundee-Fife-Edinburgh and at a push north to Aberdeen.

I’ve just hit the tipping point with the fare typically on offer (when you get there)

- dumpy middle aged Chinese women
- EE women often middle aged too, directive and ‘too sensitive’
- Brazilians with fake tits and bubble asses with uncertain female provenance - like some Thais.

It’s not surprising the Scottish UKP boards are pretty much dead notwithstanding the endless chat about GEA and these dating website SA SB etc.

I’ve taken the decision to give up punting here - and in fact all £100 PH type punts.  The best experiences I’ve had by an absolute mile are the £300 plus agency punts with the likes of Diva when I’m in London for Business.

So quality over quantity I say.  Bring on the one £500ph early 20s hardbody hottie for the same price of 5 x £100 meh punts up here!

[zag69]

Hear hear!

The quality up here is absolutely abysmal. I was in Newcastle last year and rodgered a honey at £120 for an hour. I'm going back down there next month for a week, not going to earn a penny on that trip 

[Poopster]

I can't tell you you're wrong.  The state of punting in Scotland as a whole right now is fucking terrible.  Glasgow might be alright, I don't really know, but Edinburgh is mediocre and there's almost literally nothing else worthwhile travelling for anywhere.

I don't think the shitty sugar daddy websites help at all.

[David1970]

Hear hear!

The quality up here is absolutely abysmal. I was in Newcastle last year and rodgered a honey at £120 for an hour. I'm going back down there next month for a week, not going to earn a penny on that trip 

The Northeast of England is miles better than Scotland, for quality and cost.👍

[Name Not Found]

The Northeast of England is miles better than Scotland, for quality and cost.👍

Couldn't agree more, but it has been the same throughout all my punting life. I have no idea why. People often like to say that the NE and Scotland are similar in many ways, but the punting is so different it's almost baffling.

Like the OP, I've almost given up on the same areas. It really wasn't a conscious decision, it just happened because there were hardly ever any good options.

[Scottychap]

Coming very much to the same conclusion. I punted in Edinburgh pretty extensively from around 2010-2014, and picked it up again the last year. The difference for me very noticeable. Whereas previously I felt spoilt for choice - I could decide on the spur of the moment one morning to have a bit of fun, and there would be at least 3-4 good options for a hot 20-30something with good service levels and enthusiasm, and likely also someone outstanding in there. Now I’m lucky if there’s one half decent option who wouldn’t have made plan C before. I have to plan way in advance how, and even then it’s patchy.  Where are the girls like Kasia/Katie, Tanya, Tiffany, April, the wee Swedish redhead who worked in Tollcross or any of the lot that used to work with Lanya? Last decent punt I had was Charlie (of disgusting bathroom fame), but she’s hardly ever about.

Have started looking further afield including Newcastle, and will just have to do this less often and factor in travel. Not really something I can do easily anymore.

[Itsanaffliction]

Best getting yoursel on a cheap flight to Germany, Czech Rep etc if you're going to spend that sort of money

[Name Not Found]

Best getting yoursel on a cheap flight to Germany, Czech Rep etc if you're going to spend that sort of money

Indeed. For £500 I can get myself on a flight to Germany, hire a car, tour the western German clubs and into The Netherlands, and have copious amounts of shagging at the sex/swingers clubs for a long weekend.

It doesn't make Scotland look like great value.

I guess this was inevitable though after Brexit screwed up free movement, the mismanagement of the economy made the UK more expensive, rental prices went through the roof, etc, etc. Punting is just another business that's a little bit fucked (in all the wrong ways) and Scotland seems to be suffering more than most as we have always had a low proportion of 'home gown' girls who have been working in fear of being exposed by our small-minded media. It doesn't make it look like a very appealing line of work.

[greenleaf7]

From a Glasgow perspective it's also much worse than it used to be. Not only is it much harder to get anything arranged, now it's a headache trying to even get a reply to any form of communication.

It makes sense that if there are fewer well-reviewed and genuine SPs they will get more enquiries than they used to; this leads them to be less available to answer the average query.
Add in any touring SP with good feedback, or new SP the level of enquiries must be pretty impossible to manage.

[daviemac]

From a Glasgow perspective it's also much worse than it used to be. Not only is it much harder to get anything arranged, now it's a headache trying to even get a reply to any form of communication.

It makes sense that if there are fewer well-reviewed and genuine SPs they will get more enquiries than they used to; this leads them to be less available to answer the average query.
Add in any touring SP with good feedback, or new SP the level of enquiries must be pretty impossible to manage.

You give the impression you are punting but are a bit shy on reviews, is there a reason for that?

[Aberlad]

I’m with the OP that I am very close to just chucking it.

Aberdeen is awful. I used to get around the country a bit with work but that has dried up since bloody Covid.

It genuinely confuses me why there aren’t more English lassies that come up this. I appreciate the stay is likely more expensive but there would be a fair queue of punters for girls that are well established to come up here where the could pop an extra £30/40 an hour on their rate and nobody would bat an eye!!

[Name Not Found]

It genuinely confuses me why there aren’t more English lassies that come up this. I appreciate the stay is likely more expensive but there would be a fair queue of punters for girls that are well established to come up here where the could pop an extra £30/40 an hour on their rate and nobody would bat an eye!!

I think, and from speaking to a few girls over the last couple of years, that it's just not worth the effort. Why would you take a chance on travelling North when you had a fairly reliable market down South?  I've only met one tourer in the last year in Aberdeen, and I haven't noticed her making the effort to return. She told me at the time we met that she had had more no-shows than she had anywhere else in the UK. Many girls touring in Dundee over the years have told me they've been plagued by timewaters and no-shows to such an extent they would never return. If we have no respect for the WGs, we can hardly expect them to make an effort in return. You reap what you sow.

[somethingrandom]

It genuinely confuses me why there aren’t more English lassies that come up this. I appreciate the stay is likely more expensive but there would be a fair queue of punters for girls that are well established to come up here where the could pop an extra £30/40 an hour on their rate and nobody would bat an eye!!

Kind of echoing the previous post, Scotland is basically a day or 2 days travel for a southern English girl. From my area Aberdeen may as well be another planet, you can only get there cheaply from Gatwick, that's at least 5 hours wasted on the drive and check in, plus the flight time and taxis the other end. It's simply not going to happen when most tourers work 2-3days a week and who wants to be frisked for dildos on the way or return with a load of dodgy looking bank notes that their shops won't accept (I know they should, but England understands Scottish money a lot less than Scott's understand English cash)

Only Glasgow makes sense, Edinburgh is too expensive accommodation wise due to the tourists

And we are regularly paying 200 p/h down here, even if our best girls fancied it I think there is no way they would come for less than 250 p/h due to the extra aggro and cost.

Personally I am looking forward to my next trip to Scotland, there seems to be some cracking locals at sensible prices and I think I have found a few that I can understand lol. Personally I am going to be doing longer meets and dinner dates while I am there, and this part of the forum has definitely helped make choices in that regard.

[The Monk]

Edinburgh pretty poor and getting costly event Glasgow better for choice and price with Newcastle is far superior punting ground. Visited Newcastle a few times for punting cheap bus trip up and down.

[willie loman]

I keep hearing that edinburgh is expensive for accomodation, but it has more holiday flats than anywhere in scotland , two girls sharing its affordable, there just arent enough punters up here to attract a tourer.

[David1970]

I keep hearing that edinburgh is expensive for accomodation, but it has more holiday flats than anywhere in scotland , two girls sharing its affordable, there just arent enough punters up here to attract a tourer.

TOTAL BOLLOCKS

[Bru1901]

I keep hearing that edinburgh is expensive for accomodation, but it has more holiday flats than anywhere in scotland , two girls sharing its affordable, there just arent enough punters up here to attract a tourer.

Both work out around 100 per room per day

Dayuse hotels available also if youbuse seeking

[willie loman]

Both work out around 100 per room per day

Dayuse hotels available also if youbuse seeking

two girls sharing , holiday lets most of the year are under 200 a day, perfectly affordable, and easily booked, there just isnt enough business up here, i never tire of saying, there are more girls wanting to sell sex, than men prepared to pay

[willie loman]

TOTAL BOLLOCKS

i know you are not the brightest, but care to elucidate?

[Clattypats]

I know you are not the brightest, but care to elucidate?

Fixed that for you Willie 

[David1970]

i know you are not the brightest, but care to elucidate?

Fixed that for you Willie 

 

[KatieEdinburgh]

holiday lets most of the year are under 200 a day, perfectly affordable, and easily booked

My bets on you must own holiday let properties if you think 200/day is affordable

i never tire of saying, there are more girls wanting to sell sex, than men prepared to pay

You think there’s more WGs total than there are willing punters? if that was true prices would go down but they’re going up (likely to stay that way) Wow you’re out of touch

[Clattypats]

My bets on you must own holiday let properties if you think 200/day is affordable

You think there’s more WGs total than there are willing punters? if that was true prices would go down but they’re going up (likely to stay that way) Wow you’re out of touch

Wow. You mean he's talking shite. Never!?   

[Name Not Found]

You think there’s more WGs total than there are willing punters? if that was true prices would go down but they’re going up (likely to stay that way) Wow you’re out of touch

I don't buy the 'more girls than punters' line either. I do however think the number of 'active' punters is probably declining because the options available to them are so poor in certain parts of the country. I'm sure a lot of them could be tempted back out of semi-retirement, like me, if there were more girls around.

[Clattypats]

I don't buy the 'more girls than punters' line either. I do however think the number of 'active' punters is probably declining because the options available to them are so poor in certain parts of the country. I'm sure a lot of them could be tempted back out of semi-retirement, like me, if there were more girls around.

Do you just think it's to do with the options are poorer. Which I do agree with.
I'd couple that with the price increases, which I do get. Then it comes down to the punter whether he wants to pay them or not. I for one will have a "ceiling" on a HH punt.

[Bru1901]

My bets on you must own holiday let properties if you think 200/day is affordable

You think there’s more WGs total than there are willing punters? if that was true prices would go down but they’re going up (likely to stay that way) Wow you’re out of touch

80% of Glasgow tourers also tour edinburgh

If you use own websites such as leonardo etc theres plenty affordable rates available and also 15/20% off rooms

Even still, if your declaring income then you can declare expenses.

Escorts should declare some and utilise their expenses

Hotels would be an acceptable expense so whats the issue?

Anyone moaning about hotel prices must be a dumb fuck

Plenty decent affordable hotels in Glasgow and Edinburgh any day of the week barring an event which  needs advance booking

Its not like your getting paid end of the month that you need to book last minute

Get organised. Its part of your booking routine so transport and hotels should be part of the mix

[Bru1901]

I dont know about escorts in Edinburgh but theres twice as many girls on seeking in edinburgh that are hot than in Glasgow

[Clattypats]

80% of Glasgow tourers also tour edinburgh

If you use own websites such as leonardo etc theres plenty affordable rates available and also 15/20% off rooms

Even still, if your declaring income then you can declare expenses.

Escorts should declare some and utilise their expenses

Hotels would be an acceptable expense so whats the issue?

Anyone moaning about hotel prices must be a dumb fuck

Plenty decent affordable hotels in Glasgow and Edinburgh any day of the week barring an event which  needs advance booking

Its not like your getting paid end of the month that you need to book last minute

Get organised. Its part of your booking routine so transport and hotels should be part of the mix

It's you're . All these ones calling people "not the brightest" and "dumb fucks" 

[Bru1901]

It's you're . All these ones calling people "not the brightest" and "dumb fucks" 

Judging by your last posts booking a hotel would be out of your budget

You should stick to incalls rather than being the vocabulary police

[KatieEdinburgh]

If you use own websites such as leonardo etc theres plenty affordable rates available and also 15/20% off rooms

Even still, if your declaring income then you can declare expenses.

Escorts should declare some and utilise their expenses

Hotels would be an acceptable expense so whats the issue?

I’m fully aware what hotels are  Don’t need you to teach me to suck eggs lol

We’re talking about Airbnbs and how only a landlord would say that 200/day is “perfectly affordable” like willie did

To be fair I would say that even £200+ is just about acceptable for a one off tour, but its prohibitive if you wish to do anything other than a few days. It wouldn’t be suitable to work every day out of them which is why it will not suit Edinburgh locals but rather tourers only

But thats another point entirely…

[willie loman]

i said under 200 a day, and affordability was based on 2 girls sharing, romanian and brasilians often travel in groups, foreign girls coming up to work the saunas often stay in hostels, and travel by bus.

[Bru1901]

i said under 200 a day, and affordability was based on 2 girls sharing, romanian and brasilians often travel in groups, foreign girls coming up to work the saunas often stay in hostels, and travel by bus.

Brits also travel in pairs too. Atleast in Glasgow

[Bru1901]

I’m fully aware what hotels are  Don’t need you to teach me to suck eggs lol

We’re talking about Airbnbs and how only a landlord would say that 200/day is “perfectly affordable” like willie did

To be fair I would say that even £200+ is just about acceptable for a one off tour, but its prohibitive if you wish to do anything other than a few days. It wouldn’t be suitable to work every day out of them which is why it will not suit Edinburgh locals but rather tourers only

But thats another point entirely…

Hotels will be cheaper than airbnb. By the time cleaning fees etc are added they tend to be 50-75 more expensive than hotels

Most tours last a few days anyway.

If anyone is going to work longer than a few days rhen its more viable to get a short term let or a regular flat

[Name Not Found]

If you use own websites such as leonardo etc theres plenty affordable rates available and also 15/20% off rooms

Even still, if your declaring income then you can declare expenses.

Escorts should declare some and utilise their expenses

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Get organised. Its part of your booking routine so transport and hotels should be part of the mix

I'm going to keep a link to this post in case anyone ever asks me for a definition of 'mansplaining' 🙄😀

[scots joker]

Brits also travel in pairs too. Atleast in Glasgow

Who is it that travels in single file to hide their numbers again? Roms?

[Bru1901]

Who is it that travels in single file to hide their numbers again? Roms?

Willie assumed two would be needed to cover a room

Theres atleast 5 groups of tourers who always travel frequently to Glasgow in 2s

[HornyWanderer]

Another one here packing it in. I've just been half heartedly getting in touch with a few of the Brazilians. 30 extra for kissing? I totted up the list of extras and it would be 350 for an hour with a plastic looking girl (hopefully)

[Name Not Found]

Another one here packing it in. I've just been half heartedly getting in touch with a few of the Brazilians. 30 extra for kissing? I totted up the list of extras and it would be 350 for an hour with a plastic looking girl (hopefully)

Just stay away from extras-touting Brazilians. Simples 

[Bru1901]

Ive been using SA over AW and its far superior

SA is shit as prior to covid it was great.

Still beats AW

[tiny]

What's SA?

[Bru1901]

What's SA?

Seeking.c0m

[dthompson88]

Not been punting much at all myself since covid, 3 punts in as many years. Partly the price hike (£100 for HH, fuxache) but mostly down to dodgy deposit bs.

"Yes, I can do incall but you pay £50 now, rest later." and then they give you bank details with a guy's name.

Not just the Vivastreet dregs that are doing it, 2 Scottish girls from different areas who I'd previously seen started asking for wired deposits a few months back - and both gave name and details of the same person, which I found really odd. Could be they just work for the same madame, in any case, I'm not wiring money to any WG.

[TheRealDeal10]

I’m sure I posted something similar recently and nobody agreed. Now it’s a full thread of agreement. What’s changed so rapidly?

Thankfully for the past months I’ve been abroad working and finding decent punts for as little as 100 for most of the night. Also due to the fact my digs are really nice, often they just want to stay for days rather than go home. Win win.

200 a day isn’t cheap by most standards for accommodation. UK is fucked in so many ways since the Brexit and Covid debacles. As for “freedom of movement” it seems to me that all that’s changed there is that they only let men in now, in vast numbers as well. My former home county has filled up the hotels with thousands of young men, who now are taking over the drug and crime scenes, burglaries are up so high the police won’t even investigate and I’ve been told these new guys are selling crack and methamphetamine fairly openly. It’s disgusting.

Can’t wait for a visit home 

[David1970]

I’m sure I posted something similar recently and nobody agreed. Now it’s a full thread of agreement. What’s changed so rapidly?

I think the general feeling from the other poster on the thread was, you picked the wrong girls, did not do research and are a bit of a dick. 
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=393538.msg3996520#msg3996520

[TheRealDeal10]

I think the general feeling from the other poster on the thread was, you picked the wrong girls, did not do research and are a bit of a dick. 
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=393538.msg3996520#msg3996520

I think you were the only person who got insulting. What’s wrong with you? Your post here contradicts your post on there. I’m guessing you have the mental age of a small rodent?

[TheRealDeal10]

You keep personally attacking me and it’s no good. You’re hiding behind your keyboard and I’m simply posting my personal experiences on the site.

Get a life.

[David1970]

I think you were the only person who got insulting. What’s wrong with you? Your post here contradicts your post on there. I’m guessing you have the mental age of a small rodent?

You keep personally attacking me and it’s no good. You’re hiding behind your keyboard and I’m simply posting my personal experiences on the site.

Get a life.

Must of hit a sore point with you, 2 replies and a personal message

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[TheRealDeal10]

What is the point of your trolling me?

You’d expect to speak to someone like this to their face would you?

[TheRealDeal10]

Must of hit a sore point with you, 2 replies and a personal message

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Ruining threads, calling folk names and trolling.

What is the point of this pish, loser?

[Iloveoral]

This needs calming before someone gets banned please