Is MMF underrated?

[Dann_B]

hey about to try the first mmf experience in a few weeks. People who have some experience, what's something you do to make it less awkward? also what to expect from dp/dvp?

thanks

[Thephoenix]

hey about to try the first mmf experience in a few weeks. People who have some experience, what's something you do to make it less awkward? also what to expect from dp/dvp?

thanks

Maybe we need more info and background.
eg...Are you bi sexual/bi-curious?
Do you know either of the other participants?
Are you ok with m-m contact?
What are you hoping for?

[unclepokey]

I've had a fair bit of mmf experience but initially with mf couples who advertised as such. A few years ago a guy with whom I'd been chatting  agreed upon a double penetration appointment meet with a woman we both had been seeing over a long period. I suggested that we might meet before the event and have some time together with our kit off to ensure we were both happy with that situation. We did and it was a satisfactory meeting.
Trouble then was the woman in question retired from her profession so we never got to double shag her.

But all is not lost. I've a lovely true friend and we seem to like the same kinds of women and we've had some great foursomes and threesomes together.
To want to try mmf I think you will have admitted to yourself that you are to a degree bisexual. Don't be ashamed - It is fun.
 Oh one thing is that if you are two guys shagging a girl in the same hole the risk of condom failure is increased. It happened to me several years ago but I was more shocked by the sight of this miserable piece of rubber that looked like a slug than the possibility of having caught something.

[Dann_B]

Maybe we need more info and background.
eg...Are you bi sexual/bi-curious?
Do you know either of the other participants?
Are you ok with m-m contact?
What are you hoping for?

I am not bi-sexual, i consider myself straight, borderline heteroflex lol
umm it'll be the first time meeting but they are a couple, (certain age gap between us) so some cuckhold roleplay won't hurt
I have not tried any m-m contact before but open to if there is a women involved
I am just hoping for some filth and a good time 

[Dann_B]

I've had a fair bit of mmf experience but initially with mf couples who advertised as such. A few years ago a guy with whom I'd been chatting  agreed upon a double penetration appointment meet with a woman we both had been seeing over a long period. I suggested that we might meet before the event and have some time together with our kit off to ensure we were both happy with that situation. We did and it was a satisfactory meeting.
Trouble then was the woman in question retired from her profession so we never got to double shag her.

But all is not lost. I've a lovely true friend and we seem to like the same kinds of women and we've had some great foursomes and threesomes together.
To want to try mmf I think you will have admitted to yourself that you are to a degree bisexual. Don't be ashamed - It is fun.
 Oh one thing is that if you are two guys shagging a girl in the same hole the risk of condom failure is increased. It happened to me several years ago but I was more shocked by the sight of this miserable piece of rubber that looked like a slug than the possibility of having caught something.

Thanks for the headsup. I never tried any DP related stuff so idk what to expect. How was the double bj if you tried it before?

[YorkshireLad]

I've had a fair bit of mmf experience but initially with mf couples who advertised as such. A few years ago a guy with whom I'd been chatting  agreed upon a double penetration appointment meet with a woman we both had been seeing over a long period. I suggested that we might meet before the event and have some time together with our kit off to ensure we were both happy with that situation. We did and it was a satisfactory meeting.
Trouble then was the woman in question retired from her profession so we never got to double shag her.

But all is not lost. I've a lovely true friend and we seem to like the same kinds of women and we've had some great foursomes and threesomes together.
To want to try mmf I think you will have admitted to yourself that you are to a degree bisexual. Don't be ashamed - It is fun.
 Oh one thing is that if you are two guys shagging a girl in the same hole the risk of condom failure is increased. It happened to me several years ago but I was more shocked by the sight of this miserable piece of rubber that looked like a slug than the possibility of having caught something.

Wanting to take part in MMF & gangbangs doesn’t mean you are bi, watching MMF or gangbang porn doesn’t mean you are bi. To me it’s the visual of a girl being fucked by more than 1 dick at a time that turns me on..I’m focused on the woman not the men

[Ghost89]

Each to their own but not for me. I’d be to worried about friendly fire amongst other things.

[Moby Dick]

Wanting to take part in MMF & gangbangs doesn’t mean you are bi, watching MMF or gangbang porn doesn’t mean you are bi. To me it’s the visual of a girl being fucked by more than 1 dick at a time that turns me on..I’m focused on the woman not the men

+1

I find SPs do more / are more up for it in a group session.

[Moby Dick]

what's something you do to make it less awkward?

1) make sure the other M isn’t a relative or work colleague (boss could be an exception  )
2) all be clean, fresh and wear deodorant.
3) get the SP to start the action whilst the other M is in the shower, then just get stuck in.

also what to expect from dp/dvp?

Fumbling, awkward angles, wrong heights etc which can lead to soft dicks.
 It doesn’t look, or don’t expect it to look as good as professional porn stars with their bare big dicks, but when it does get going it’s the expression on her face that is much more memorable than any feeling or tightness.

The best bit (for me) is the Bukkake facial finale (on her  )

[Colston36]

hey about to try the first mmf experience in a few weeks. People who have some experience, what's something you do to make it less awkward? also what to expect from dp/dvp?

thanks

I always ask specific questions, and say exactly what I want and what I don't; no surprises thank you.  Too many on here rush into meetings without being very clear about what they want. As a result I have done this many times without being disappointed.

[Vice Admiral]

A sesh with a girl and two guys
Can be a delightful surprise
– As long as inspection
Of the other’s erection
Doesn’t show that it’s double your size!

[Dann_B]

 

The best bit (for me) is the Bukkake facial finale (on her  )

[Dann_B]

I always ask specific questions, and say exactly what I want and what I don't; no surprises thank you.  Too many on here rush into meetings without being very clear about what they want. As a result I have done this many times without being disappointed.

which position is the best for splitroast?
not into bi stuff like clean up or friendly fire at all

[unclepokey]

Your 400ths post is a brilliant piece and may go down in the history of this site.
Thank you Vice Admiral!

[Vice Admiral]

Your 400ths post is a brilliant piece and may go down in the history of this site.
Thank you Vice Admiral!

Thank you, Uncle Pokey – but I won't give up the day job quite yet.

(Whatever the day job is...)

[Steely Dan]

which position is the best for splitroast?
not into bi stuff like clean up or friendly fire at all

Spitroast is forgiving - seldom much MM interaction.  Most positions work.  I would suggest doggy: meaning you lie on your back getting a BJ, while the other guy fucks her doggy.

[Crunchie]

Hmm interesting.  Well it happened to me a fair few years back actually over 20 years ago I think, with a couple of ex work colleagues.

A really good male mate and a young 20 something ex secretary of mine who I'd previously been having an affair with.  There had been all sorts of flirtatious emails between us culminating is us meeting at his flat. There was all sots of excitement until the weed arrived and I completely whited out and spent a fair while talking to the big white telephone in the bathroom.   

The next time it was all systems go and my mate and I just agreed to try our best to avoid touching one an others dicks!  He moseyed into the kitchen I started things off in the sitting room. If memory serves - it was a while ago, I remember being fascinated over her bright red G-string because she always wore boxers or similar! I also remember him rushing into his bedroom saying hang on has he has to get the bed ready. So I picked her up and carried her into the bedroom and whacked her elbow into the door frame!!  Like a trooper she sucked it up though.

I also remember her saying it's just like ski practice as she laid between us and of course we high fived each other during the spit roast too.  I also remember being intimidated by his athletic 20 something figure with my 40 something beer paunch and then him finally running out of condoms. He came and I didn't and sadly since she never was a fan of blow jobs - although her hand jobs rarely disappointed, I just plain gave up.

I suppose I'm happy I ticked something off my To-Do list, I'm still friendly with both of them but wouldn't go out of my way to organise another.

An SP that I see regularly says she isn't a fan either as all parties have to be equally satisfied and it can be really hard to achieve that.

[Tender.french.kiss]

also what to expect from dp/dvp?

Not as simple as it look. Potentially awkward, especially if not acquainted with the other guy.
Even in porn you can tell it's not always easy. But worth a try (more for the mental pleasure of having had the girl well stuffed than for the sensation itself IMHO).
Might be worth trying to do it with a couple (like External Link/Members Only) so that they are already used to each other, instead of risking even more unknown with each new to both others.
Have fun anyway

[isaac_gauss]

It's a lot of fun. I'd rather do an MMF than a 1-on-1, at this point. DP and DVP is a an experience of awkward positioning, someone getting squashed, and a challenge of stamina. All part of the fun. Accept it's weird and different. And be physically fit!

[Mr Sinister]

I've been part of gangbangs and mmf with the lads only no male on male action just running through the girl in all her holes.
It is quite fun and exciting especially seeing the enjoyment of the girl, doing with guys you know adds to the energy

[sparkus]

No desire to see another fella in the buff or share a woman, no thanks.

TBH MFF can be hard work unless it's all slow/done in rounds.

[Colston36]

Re-reading this question I am puzzled. Actually it makes absolutely no sense. Underrated in what way? Do you mean it's better than people say? Underrated by whom? The answer is, as usual, it depends who rates it. People who like it will say no. I think it's great if the women is sexy and imaginative, bloody dire if not. People who don't like it will say it's overrated. And so on.

[Dann_B]

I've been part of gangbangs and mmf with the lads only no male on male action just running through the girl in all her holes.
It is quite fun and exciting especially seeing the enjoyment of the girl, doing with guys you know adds to the energy

watching the girl get fucked brainless and being an absolute slut is a turn on. icl

[Dann_B]

Re-reading this question I am puzzled. Actually it makes absolutely no sense. Underrated in what way? Do you mean it's better than people say? Underrated by whom? The answer is, as usual, it depends who rates it. People who like it will say no. I think it's great if the women is sexy and imaginative, bloody dire if not. People who don't like it will say it's overrated. And so on.

People always talk about how great MFF is but it is actually a lot of multitasking. but not the same attention goes to MMF, lots of people on this thread already expressed it is 'bi' stuff to do it or splitroasting is the where the line is drawn. but there seems to be people that enjoys mmf/gangbangs a lot as well.

[Punter S Thompson]

People always talk about how great MFF is but it is actually a lot of multitasking. but not the same attention goes to MMF, lots of people on this thread already expressed it is 'bi' stuff to do it or splitroasting is the where the line is drawn. but there seems to be people that enjoys mmf/gangbangs a lot as well.

You're seriously doing it wrong if you think that about MFF.

[Moby Dick]

People always talk about how great MFF is but it is actually a lot of multitasking. but not the same attention goes to MMF, lots of people on this thread already expressed it is 'bi' stuff to do it or splitroasting is the where the line is drawn. but there seems to be people that enjoys mmf/gangbangs a lot as well.

MFF need not be multi tasking - it’s about the SPs giving you pleasure.

Have you considered the financial implications of group fun?

I prefer MFF but it is at least twice the price compared to MMF.
Both give me the same “rush” / interactive vibe that I can only get from group fun, so for me MMF is a good substitute with the right punter and SP.

I have no interest with touching or interaction with other blokes/punters.
I started to go to parties because it was a cheaper way of seeing multiple SPs at the same time, and you can have a rest and watch for a bit and have a bit of banter with everyone.
Same with arranged bukkake events and filmed gangbangs with wannabe “pornstars”

I then had a go at arranging gangbangs/MMF with specific SPs because the SPs at parties where not always the ones advertised, or you would only be attracted to one of the WG (as did most so form a queue and watch a higher)  or the action very often split into different rooms and left me wondering if it was any better in the other room. Not always the best VFM.

[sparkus]

People always talk about how great MFF is but it is actually a lot of multitasking. but not the same attention goes to MMF, lots of people on this thread already expressed it is 'bi' stuff to do it or splitroasting is the where the line is drawn. but there seems to be people that enjoys mmf/gangbangs a lot as well.

Agreed.  My first one was with two WGs who were 'pretending' to be lesbians (or so they said) but I kinda lost interest doing one doggy while she ate out the other (turned out one was the 'consistent member' of the duo and replaced the other routinely, she also didn't eat out but would be eaten out, probably why they kept leaving!).  Black duo in Stratford, worked there ages.

Another time was a lot better when two WGs who often worked together gave me a discounted threesome, so it was just stuff like one smothering me with her huge tits while the other rode me CG.

Chinese duos in massage shops have no qualms about threesomes but I've never seen any get involved with each other.  I actually started declining the discounted threesome with one as she was a lot better on her own.

[Dann_B]

MFF need not be multi tasking - it’s about the SPs giving you pleasure.

Have you considered the financial implications of group fun?

I prefer MFF but it is at least twice the price compared to MMF.
Both give me the same “rush” / interactive vibe that I can only get from group fun, so for me MMF is a good substitute with the right punter and SP.

I have no interest with touching or interaction with other blokes/punters.
I started to go to parties because it was a cheaper way of seeing multiple SPs at the same time, and you can have a rest and watch for a bit and have a bit of banter with everyone.
Same with arranged bukkake events and filmed gangbangs with wannabe “pornstars”

I then had a go at arranging gangbangs/MMF with specific SPs because the SPs at parties where not always the ones advertised, or you would only be attracted to one of the WG (as did most so form a queue and watch a higher)  or the action very often split into different rooms and left me wondering if it was any better in the other room. Not always the best VFM.

not every f-f couple will do lots of g-g stuff. some even refuse for double bj, so selecting the right SP for ffm is quite important

[redmist81]

I ve done mfm twice the first time was the best
Unless you both have massive weapons you need a slim lady to do dp ( ass an pussy ). Otherwise it's hard to get the angles right   
Never tried dvp have no desire to it looks uncomfortable  an way to much contact with the other fella
Double deepthroat is fun an gets very messy 
Word of advice when spit roasting don't egg the other guy on telling him to fuck her harder as when he starts going for it you get her teeth 
Watch some bendover videos for some inspiration   

[Dann_B]

did the other M nut inside her before you cum or just facials? not gonna lie, don't want any contact  with it

[hendrix]

I prefer MMFF or just multiple girls and me. Not sure if I've ever found it awkward, but then I usually prefer the other M to be a pro. I did have nerves when it was a legit porn star (Pascal) though

[shagmore]

MMF is great if the other guy is on your wave length. have done this with a regular WG and another of her regulars.
Turned out to be great session. But depends on what you are after and into. If you dont mind being in contact with another blokes cock then not an issue.
As it was ended up fucking the arse of the guy as he fucked the WG, and he returned the favour - each to their own

[unclepokey]

I prefer MMFF or just multiple girls and me. Not sure if I've ever found it awkward, but then I usually prefer the other M to be a pro. I did have nerves when it was a legit porn star (Pascal) though

I like mmff too. And as would luck has it that's just what I'm into tomorrow.. We've  done this two or three times before and it's all that we get on, respect each other and are friends despite the payment to the girls concerned.

[hendrix]

I like mmff too. And as would luck has it that's just what I'm into tomorrow.. We've  done this two or three times before and it's all that we get on, respect each other and are friends despite the payment to the girls concerned.

  hope it goes well!

[Thephoenix]

MMF is great if the other guy is on your wave length. have done this with a regular WG and another of her regulars.


       *******Turned out to be great session. But depends on what you are after and into. If you dont mind being in contact with another blokes cock then not an issue.*******


As it was ended up fucking the arse of the guy as he fucked the WG, and he returned the favour - each to their own

*******Without the cock hangups that some have mentioned it makes the experience far more enjoyable all round for everyone involved******* (shock horror)

I've only ever experienced with professional couples where you know before you start that the guy is bi.
It's not something I could envisage doing with a civvy mate.

[sparkus]

*******Without the cock hangups that some have mentioned it makes the experience far more enjoyable all round for everyone involved******* (shock horror)

I've only ever experienced with professional couples where you know before you start that the guy is bi.
It's not something I could envisage doing with a civvy mate.

I do remember times when mates who didn't pull on hols pressurised ones who had to allow them sloppy seconds
(albeit when the girl had met them at the same time and seemed up for going off with either etc.)

Even situations where several of us pulled and crashed in the same room the strict rule was eyes on who you were doing and no looking around/commenting.

[isaac_gauss]

It should be noted:

- In some circles, "MMF" refers to bisexual action: action involving two men and a woman, inclusive of man-on-man sexual contact. And "MFM" means two males sharing the female, heterosexually (--at least without the fellows trying physically, directly to get off with each other). This is the distinction in terminology used in swinging circles, apparently. But in porn, MMF means, often, straight MFM. And in punting, it seems we've adopted the looser porn definitions. To avoid disappointment/awkwardness it may be good to clarify this with the SP/co-punter before the action begins.

- MFM/MMF/3P is sometimes more cost-effective. Some SPs provide a group discount rather than charging simply double the regular fee. That is a good sign, it shows they're into it, I reckon. It's nice to give the girl a treat, sometimes, isn't it? And it's nice to fill a girl up completely with dicks.

[daviemac]

It should be noted:

- In some circles, "MMF" refers to bisexual action: action involving two men and a woman, inclusive of man-on-man sexual contact. And "MFM" means two males sharing the female, heterosexually (--at least without the fellows trying physically, directly to get off with each other). This is the distinction in terminology used in swinging circles, apparently. But in porn, MMF means, often, straight MFM. And in punting, it seems we've adopted the looser porn definitions. To avoid disappointment/awkwardness it may be good to clarify this with the SP/co-punter before the action begins.

- MFM/MMF/3P is sometimes more cost-effective. Some SPs provide a group discount rather than charging simply double the regular fee. That is a good sign, it shows they're into it, I reckon. It's nice to give the girl a treat, sometimes, isn't it? And it's nice to fill a girl up completely with dicks.

When posting on this site is it not better to avoid complicating matters and use the terms described in the site glossary as shown below? Any punter with a modicum of common sense would make it clear during the booking process what type of booking they require and whether or not there was any bi action would be made clear in the review.   


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[isaac_gauss]

I just want to make my fellow posters aware that if you invite your colleague to an MMF, that might be taken the wrong way

Re: The Punting Wiki Glossary as an authoritative standard for terminology usage on UKP, sure, why not. For the unfamiliar:

External Link/Members Only

[Moby Dick]

I just want to make my fellow posters aware that if you invite your colleague to an MMF, that might be taken the wrong way

Re: The Punting Wiki Glossary as an authoritative standard for terminology usage on UKP, sure, why not. For the unfamiliar:

External Link/Members Only

Never been a problem. I ain’t confused. 

How do you differentiate MMMF, MFMM, MMFM, FMMM?
Or even FFM, never seen it called FMF - we don’t pay attention to the position of the F or M. We just ask for “Girl on Girl action”

Correctness of Theoretical Acronyms are not the be all and all.
If you want a bi MMF then that is what you ask for. Otherwise assume not.
This is the reality.

[isaac_gauss]

Regarding MMMF etc. I personally don't differentiate those, and I don't know if the swingers do either.

But here, the correct term is:

GB: Gang Bang. Sex with 3+ men and one (or more) woman.

If you want a bi MMF then that is what you ask for. Otherwise assume not.

I agree. This is reasonable.

But going by this thread, consensus for the definition for "bi" is lacking. Perhaps it should be clarified by fiat in the glossary.

[Moby Dick]

Regarding MMMF etc. I personally don't differentiate those, and I don't know if the swingers do either.

But here, the correct term is:

I agree. This is reasonable.

But going by this thread, consensus for the definition for "bi" is lacking. Perhaps it should be clarified by fiat in the glossary.

Do you think people wouldn’t punt if there was no glossary to refer to?

What’s a car manufacturer go to do with punting?

[isaac_gauss]

Yes. If there was no glossary, prostitution wouldn't exist. When the first dictionary was published, prostitution began. That's what I believe.

Here is what I think is reasonable to expect to be potentially on the table in a "non-bi MMF": two cocks touching in the course of the girl sucking and stroking both of them. DP and DVP, and the requisite physical contact for such positioning. One guy watching the other guy fuck. Accidental jizz splashback.

Not: any cock in a male mouth or back door. Male-male kissing or stroking.

But that's just my opinion.

[daviemac]

Yes. If there was no glossary, prostitution wouldn't exist. When the first dictionary was published, prostitution began. That's what I believe.

Here is what I think is reasonable to expect to be potentially on the table in a "non-bi MMF": two cocks touching in the course of the girl sucking and stroking both of them. DP and DVP, and the requisite physical contact for such positioning. One guy watching the other guy fuck. Accidental jizz splashback.

Not: any cock in a male mouth or back door. Male-male kissing or stroking.

But that's just my opinion.

You've hardly been here 18 months and you are confused by something that has been the case for over 10 years. 

If all members use the terminology as described in the glossary and accepted as the normal for this site then we all understand each other. Once you start with MMF means one thing, MFM means another, FMM yet another then it isn't easily understood.

The way it works is two blokes with one escort is called MMF as in male + male + female and that covers all forms. The details of what was required and what happened in the booking are given in the review.

We don't need every single variation of paid sex to be explained in words of one syllable. Those interested in MMF will read the review and decide from the details if it's the type of booking for them, some will want MM action others won't but that information is in the review.

[unclepokey]

I think, Davie, you might agree that once the groupings go beyond three the shorthand becomes exponentially less helpful. And even at two guys and one woman the actual descriptions of the MM participation doesn't distinguish the degree of same like:
Is there any MM sex if so what,
If there is DP intended is it different orifices of the woman
Is it the same orifice at the same time.

Once you think of higher numbers of participants it gets totally out of shorthand descriptors immediately.

When I get involved in these kinds of gatherings I make sure I understand what's available and what may be expected of me. No surprises means no disappointment and no embarrassment.

[daviemac]

I think, Davie, you might agree that once the groupings go beyond three the shorthand becomes exponentially less helpful. And even at two guys and one woman the actual descriptions of the MM participation doesn't distinguish the degree of same like:
Is there any MM sex if so what,
If there is DP intended is it different orifices of the woman
Is it the same orifice at the same time.

Once you think of higher numbers of participants it gets totally out of shorthand descriptors immediately.

When I get involved in these kinds of gatherings I make sure I understand what's available and what may be expected of me. No surprises means no disappointment and no embarrassment.

I haven't commented on anything other than MMF which is the topic of this thread (Is MMF underrated?) You can't have more than 3 in a MMF situation so I'm not sure what your point is. 

If there's 2 blokes and 1 woman the term that has always been used is MMF, the same as if it's 2 women and 1 man it's a duo, not FFM. These are all terms recognised as the normal for this site other sites may use different terminology.

Like I have already said all that is needed is the fact it's a MMF meeting and a description of what was requested at the time of booking and what occurred during the appointment, we don't need the complication of different acronyms meaning different things, it's more for members to get wrong. 

[Thephoenix]

Yes. If there was no glossary, prostitution wouldn't exist. When the first dictionary was published, prostitution began. That's what I believe.

Here is what I think is reasonable to expect to be potentially on the table in a "non-bi MMF": two cocks touching in the course of the girl sucking and stroking both of them. DP and DVP, and the requisite physical contact for such positioning. One guy watching the other guy fuck. Accidental jizz splashback.

Not: any cock in a male mouth or back door. Male-male kissing or stroking.

But that's just my opinion.

I believe prostitution came before the first dictionary.
Sumerian records dating back to 2400 BCE are the earliest recorded mention of prostitution as an occupation. These describe a temple brothel operated by Sumerian priests in the City of Uruk.
The oldest known dictionaries were discovered in Elba (modern Syria) and dated  to 2300 BCE.

Well fancy that!



As regards to what a mmf punt involves, which is what this site is about (as opposed to swinging), it should just be a case  of clear communication between the people involved rather than getting bogged down in initials.

It's 2 blokes with one women.
If it's with a professional  MF couple the boundaries are usually clear and discussed before the meeting.
If it's just 2 civvy guys then it's simple to all discuss your boundaries before.

Having said all that in the heat of the moment anything can happen...... that's sex....go with the flow....relax and enjoy yourself, and God forbid, if the lady's sitting on your face, you don't know who's sucking you off.  

[unclepokey]

I was only trying to say what the Phoenix says and with whom I align.

[pantywetter]

I like it because you can really “go to town” on the girl.  She gets relentlessly shagged and a cock in her mouth too at all times.  Often the girl will really get off on it as she knows just how naughty she is being.  Then it’s a joy to see her take two loads.

Basically they are very kinky.  Would quite like to find a regular punting mate to do it if anyone fancies it, but they are notoriously difficult to arrange.