Paranoid about AdultWork payments

[stupidbafoon]

A couple of years ago I found the dreaded adultwork when searching for a bit of porn. Totally stupid, I joined just to can with a few camgirls...........I cammed myself and used my cc a few times. Since then I have only used paysafe but there was a 3 month period I stupidly used my card. Ever since the hacking of Adult websites started I have been shitting it and its really affecting me. I don't go on AW at all now and am gutted I ever found the site. I know I am a tit for using my cc but I just wondered if anyone knew:

1. Do they keep cc details even after deleting an account?
2. How long do they keep webcam converstaions for (text and video)
3. Should I tell my OH , I feel so so guilty.

What a tit!

Cheers for any replies

[Sureshot]

Yes, definitely tell your wife youve joined a postitue advertising platform.  What could possibly go wrong?

[Mansell]

Yes, definitely tell your wife youve joined a postitue advertising platform.  What could possibly go wrong?

PMSL 

[Roth]

Change your card.  Simples!

[sanchez]

I think AW use a separate/external gateway to take card payments and transactions but I may be wrong. Whether that gives them access to your details i'm not sure.

I thought about this after I saw the news about the FriendFinder hack. I wouldn't be suprised if AW has been the target of attacks in the past, they were certainly subject to a DDOS attack not that long ago.

As a website I certainly wouldn't give them any of my personal details and you can forget about paying via credit of debit crd for any services. 

[stevedave]

RE point 3. No, just no. Why the fuck would you do that!

[NervousJ]

If it all went to rat shit, just tell the wife you've been looking at web cams..

[Horizontal pleasures]

Payments show up on credit card statements as Awork. But you get confirmatory emails which are from AdultWork.

Not only a punting phone but a punting card is useful for the private galleries to scout out or dismiss a likely lady - which is all I occasionally pay for, never seen the point of camera, I prefer the real thing.

[stupidbafoon]

Yes,

I get the point re. point 3............I am just generally a stress head and can't believe I even got into web-camming but yes........a tools statement so thanks for pointing that out......slap in the face accepted  .

Would a hack divulge the nature of the discussion do you think or would it just be that I had used my card on their shitty site? I heard they keep transcripts of conversations but sort of hoping that isn't true. I realise, no one here knows 100% its just I'm trying to get my head around my own stupidity which is pretty difficult and I've got a lot to lose! How long do you reckon they keep CC details for? I packed that account in around 18 months ago.

In answer to preferring the real thing..........I get that, its just I never would do that...........in my pea brain webcamming wasn't cheating DUH!!

Any way, thanks for all the help and also the "stating the bleeding obvious" statements........all gratefully received

[HughJardon]

I Use Ukash or Paysafe

External Link/Members Only

Simply visiting a local outlet and putting credit on a pre paid card suits me,  and the best thing is you can be totally anonymous whilst doing this.

To add to point 3. Perhaps puntings not for you,  especially if your living indoors with a partner,  women read guilt well. Puntings for strong minded S.O.Bs

[turkmanstan]

A couple of years ago I found the dreaded adultwork when searching for a bit of porn. Totally stupid, I joined just to can with a few camgirls...........I cammed myself and used my cc a few times. Since then I have only used paysafe but there was a 3 month period I stupidly used my card. Ever since the hacking of Adult websites started I have been shitting it and its really affecting me. I don't go on AW at all now and am gutted I ever found the site. I know I am a tit for using my cc but I just wondered if anyone knew:

1. Do they keep cc details even after deleting an account?
2. How long do they keep webcam converstaions for (text and video)
3. Should I tell my OH , I feel so so guilty.

What a tit!

Cheers for any replies

Cancel your cc for starters if you are concerned

[BlueRock]

If worst comes to worst as said previously just say you were camming. They have to suspect you are punting first. Which means don't give yourself away by coming home at the same time each night except for when you punt. Vary your hours regularly to keep them in the dark. Better still don't get married...unless she's the one with all the money!

[stupidbafoon]

If worst comes to worst as said previously just say you were camming. They have to suspect you are punting first. Which means don't give yourself away by coming home at the same time each night except for when you punt. Vary your hours regularly to keep them in the dark. Better still don't get married...unless she's the one with all the money!

Truth is, that is what I was doing...........I'm just thinking about the form a hack takes if it ever comes about..........are conversations leaked? Are cam to cam shows leaked and yes its true punting isn't for me...........I totally agree with what was stated, punters need to be tough hombres to live a life style of punting.....a few hundred quid on camming 18 months ago and my arse has fallen out.

[stupidbafoon]

Cancel your cc for starters if you are concerned

How does cancelling the card help? I'm worried about a hacker exposing details being held by AW with my name and address.........can't see how cancelling the card would help TBH........unless you know more?

[NervousJ]

You are worrying about something you don't need too....


Go and get a beer....

[stupidbafoon]

I think AW use a separate/external gateway to take card payments and transactions but I may be wrong. Whether that gives them access to your details i'm not sure.

I thought about this after I saw the news about the FriendFinder hack. I wouldn't be suprised if AW has been the target of attacks in the past, they were certainly subject to a DDOS attack not that long ago.

As a website I certainly wouldn't give them any of my personal details and you can forget about paying via credit of debit crd for any services. 

Yes. I realise now that I was certainly as thick as pigshit to use my credit/debit card........total numbnuts. Thanks for the info on a possible external gateway for payments........I'm hoping that is true or that my details are scrubbed when I close my account.......I fear the second one won't be true as I am sue these details stay online forever more.........such a fuck up.

[Justanotherman]

What the fuck is this? Do you even know what hacking is?

They might get your card details and spend some money on it. But how would your mrs find out unless its a shared card. Turn paperless statements on then there's no fear of anything dropping on the doormat (btw the hackers aren't going to send a fucking letter to everyone on a list). Keep a vigilant eye on the card spending - or just 'lose' it and then cancel it for a new one.

Jesus Christ - you've paid money for a bit of interactive grumble. What's the worry.

[stupidbafoon]

What the fuck is this? Do you even know what hacking is?

They might get your card details and spend some money on it. But how would your mrs find out unless its a shared card. Turn paperless statements on then there's no fear of anything dropping on the doormat (btw the hackers aren't going to send a fucking letter to everyone on a list). Keep a vigilant eye on the card spending - or just 'lose' it and then cancel it for a new one.

Jesus Christ - you've paid money for a bit of interactive grumble. What's the worry.

Thanks for the pull yourself together post...........I think I need to.........I'll leave all this to the experts.....and by the way a bit of "grumble" is the greatest term I have ever heard.

[BlueRock]

I agree, firstly adultwork doesn't process your payment they use a third party company. Such companies generally have to demonstrate they have decent defences.
If you are really in a lather stop the card and get a new one. Then if the worst happens (it won't) say your details were stolen and used on AW and you were too worried to speak up at the time. This sort of thing happens loads believe me it seems card detail thieves like a wank as much as the next man.

[stupidbafoon]

You are worrying about something you don't need too....


Go and get a beer....

Cheers mate, hope so......and yes, I'll get a beer got to stop fretting........a six month error getting cheap thrills that's all and that's what I'll say if anything comes about cause that's what it was.

[milo]

You are worrying about something you don't need to

I'd agree with this.

But now you need to make sure your partner doesn't discover you have been on this forum.

[BlueRock]

 

[stupidbafoon]

I'd agree with this.

But now you need to make sure your partner doesn't discover you have been on this forum.

Yes ha, ha, very droll 

Thanks though for at least trying to make me feel better you lot.............who thought I would find solace with a load of skirt chasers 

[hungrypunt]

you stupidbafoon !!

Should have known better

[stupidbafoon]

you stupidbafoon !!

Should have known better

Agreed!

[hungrypunt]

Serioulsy tho, I wouldnt lose sleep over it, Its a very very slim chance and as you say its been a while, Plus I think Im right in saying the payments for AW are taken off site to the payment processor before cc details are entered, Usually I think the previous breaches were all on site at the hosts servers, NOT the banks

[stupidbafoon]

Serioulsy tho, I wouldnt lose sleep over it, Its a very very slim chance and as you say its been a while, Plus I think Im right in saying the payments for AW are taken off site to the payment processor before cc details are entered, Usually I think the previous breaches were all on site at the hosts servers, NOT the banks

Mate really appreciate the info. I really hope so as I used to consider myself reasonably intelligent but this gross ac of stupidity would suggest otherwise ...........my camming days are well and truly over......and the longer a hack doesn't happen, hopefully the easier it will be to explain to the OH I suppose in the future........I don't have the nuts for this  :unknown:a fish out of water........here's hoping you're right I'm not likely to get any info direct from AW about how they process payments (I've tried!) so that's why I came to this forum as I thought there could be some in a similar boat or at least who might know. They deffo don't have my email address but the CC is potentially worse but if they use a 3rd party hopefully that will help!

Thanks again I really appreciate it.

[hungrypunt]

Mate really appreciate the info. I really hope so as I used to consider myself reasonably intelligent but this gross ac of stupidity would suggest otherwise ...........my camming days are well and truly over......and the longer a hack doesn't happen, hopefully the easier it will be to explain to the OH I suppose in the future........I don't have the nuts for this  :unknown:a fish out of water........here's hoping you're right I'm not likely to get any info direct from AW about how they process payments (I've tried!) so that's why I came to this forum as I thought there could be some in a similar boat or at least who might know. They deffo don't have my email address but the CC is potentially worse but if they use a 3rd party hopefully that will help!

Thanks again I really appreciate it.

Ive used my cc there in the past,and if I remember rightly it takes you to the merchant to process  dont worry mate, just make sure all your assets are in someone elses name 

edit, I just checked and your redirected offsite for new payments

External Link/Members Only

[stupidbafoon]

Ive used my cc there in the past,and if I remember rightly it takes you to the merchant to process  dont worry mate, just make sure all your assets are in someone elses name 

edit, I just checked and your redirected offsite for new payments

External Link/Members Only

Thanks Hungry, don't suppose you know which company processes the payments do you?

[stupidbafoon]

Just spotted the link............emerchantpay? and is that for all credits?

[Justanotherman]

Will you get a fucking grip. What do you actually think will happen if this hack even happens?

[stupidbafoon]

Will you get a fucking grip. What do you actually think will happen if this hack even happens?

OK.....I take your point. But what I think could happen is:

A. My name is on an internet list and chucked on the internet
B. All the webcam conversations I've had will be viewable.
C. The amount spent and number of times I visited over that period would be there.

That's the cut and thrust of it..........but yes, you're right.......I have to get a grip. I can't change what I did and I'll just have to hope as you have all helpfully pointed out that:

A. There never is a hack.
B. That CC details are securely with a third party

Cheers again

[paul_davis]

Probably already been hacked

[HippyCrack]

A) These hackers would have to be able to tie your payment card to your adultwork account - 2 different systems, they would have to hack both and then somehow link cards to awork accounts
B) They would then have to tie your adultwork account to you - did you sign up for the site with a different email address to your usual one, did you use a regular online username or make up a new one? If it was a new email address they can't link the fake online you to the real online you. If it was your usual email address then they would still have to have the inclination to release the email addresses they've harvested.
C) Adultwork would have to spend £££££ storing the data from every single cam chat - not going to happen.

In short you have nothing to worry about.

[Gordon Bennett]

This'll put the wind up nervous types.....
I was using my debit card to bung some money on AW to cover my reverse bookings and occasional gallery or movie purchases but it came up "transaction declined". My phone then pinged and it was a text from my bank asking if I'd just attempted to make a purchase from Awork, reply  yes or no. I replied yes, went back into AW,  resubmitted the details and voila - credits purchased.
In fairness, I reckon my bank gets the heebie-jeebies about 5% of my transactions but getting texts about AW made me jump! Anyway, it all went smoothly with credits successfully applied and only one debit from my account made.

[Murray Mint]

Something else that might put the wind up nervous types.

Back in about 2004 I bought AW credits to look at private galleries prior to a punt. I did that for about 2 years, including topping up the account, and then let it lapse. I thought it was empty, but in the event still had 0.2 credit in it.

Then, out of the blue in 2014 an entry appeared on my credit card statement “awork.co.uk Nicosia” and £100 debited. Immediately after it was the same entry with £100 credited. It caused me some consternation at the time – but fortunately I’m not the nervous type!   

[MilleMiglia]

Will you get a fucking grip. What do you actually think will happen if this hack even happens?

+1. I'm quite confident that I'm too insignificant to come up on anyone's radar.

[stupidbafoon]

A) These hackers would have to be able to tie your payment card to your adultwork account - 2 different systems, they would have to hack both and then somehow link cards to awork accounts
B) They would then have to tie your adultwork account to you - did you sign up for the site with a different email address to your usual one, did you use a regular online username or make up a new one? If it was a new email address they can't link the fake online you to the real online you. If it was your usual email address then they would still have to have the inclination to release the email addresses they've harvested.
C) Adultwork would have to spend £££££ storing the data from every single cam chat - not going to happen.

In short you have nothing to worry about.

Thanks a lot for the breakdown..........this has made me feel a lot better. I did use new email addresses and user names, main worry was my name/address being dumped online after a hack a la Ashley Madison. I really hope you're right and what you say has really helped so thanks very much and that goes to everyone here who has given their opinions and comments.

My webcam and online shenanigans are over and fingers crossed nothing ever comes up, I am sticking with the "nothing to worry about" line . Good luck you lot and stay safe!

[AlwaysLooking]

My view is, having only put £10 or £20 on AW before, would be really - guess someone hacked my Credit Card.

Anyone who knows me knows it's happened before (hacked Credit Card), and who really checks every item on their statement. Me I know what it is roughly month to month, so as long as it's that (I even tell the Mrs it's about normal this morning) then I chill. If it's much more because we've got a large item or say the car needed servicing, and we booked a holiday (I'll mention that to her as well, of ouch expensive month this month).

[Marmalade]

I'm surprised they don't use ccBill like most adult services sites; but a more sensible concern is your ball-n-chain asking you wtf is 'awork' on your card statement.

There are about 3 payments of £30- £50 each time to aworks. Now am I over reacting? How do I bring this up with him when he gets home

It's about as discreet as waving your willie at a bus stop. If you are house slave and mistress checks your mail, ffs use ukash.

...buy credits using cash vouchers.  Simply exchange cash for a "Ukash Voucher" at any newsagent or convenience store that participates in PayPoint, ePay or PayZone, and then redeem the voucher on the Buy Credits Page.

[Marmalade]

See here:

External Link/Members Only

UKP Wiki also has a relevant section.

[stupidbafoon]

So it seems as though they do have c/c information. But they say they will delete personal information on request. Thing is, how can you ever contact them? They never reply to emails. They do use a 3rd party gateway so how would they also get to store the info? I wish I could just pay to have a proper delete of my old account. That would put it all to bed once and for all. Dread this coming back to haunt me, I saw the Post Office, Talk Talk and The National Lottery were hacked this week, pretty sure AW won't be able to match their defences!

Collection of your Personal Information

AdultWork.com only saves such personal information that is necessary for you to access and use our services. This personal information includes, but is not limited to, first and last name, email address, phone number and other payment processing information.  Upon request, we will delete your personal information.

[stupidbafoon]

I'm surprised they don't use ccBill like most adult services sites; but a more sensible concern is your ball-n-chain asking you wtf is 'awork' on your card statement.

It's about as discreet as waving your willie at a bus stop. If you are house slave and mistress checks your mail, ffs use ukash.

Hi Marmalade, why do you think that is a more sensible concern? I definitely won't get that found because it was 18 months ago...........my issue is more webchats being leaked connected to my name and address a bit like the Brazzers hack. I would even pay AW to delete my details but I acn't even email them to ask to do that. The updated terms on the AW site make no mention of taking CC details and holding them but the AW Developers site does. So confusing. 

[Marmalade]

Hi Marmalade, why do you think that is a more sensible concern? I definitely won't get that found because it was 18 months ago...........my issue is more webchats being leaked connected to my name and address a bit like the Brazzers hack. I would even pay AW to delete my details but I acn't even email them to ask to do that. The updated terms on the AW site make no mention of taking CC details and holding them but the AW Developers site does. So confusing. 

Yes you can email them. Sorry if I don't feel inclined to hand-hold but look a bit harder.

Not sure which webchats you mean. That's a different issue. There's plenty on UKP and UKP Wki about security though.

[PepeMAGA]

The only time they would really publish your chat transcripts is if you were famous,  or it was something completely fucked up.  I doubt both of those.
If you're really worried contact adultwork and ask them about their data storage policy.  It's in their interests to keep everyone happy that they offer a discreet service.

[stupidbafoon]

Hi pepa,  thanks for the reply.

I have tried to email through the help centre but they do not accept my email as it says........."your questions are addressed in the help centre discussions" and so "your email has not been sent". It does say, as Marmalade helpfully mentioned, that the they will delete personal info on request but i can't get any emails through!

[stupidbafoon]

The only time they would really publish your chat transcripts is if you were famous,  or it was something completely fucked up.  I doubt both of those.
If you're really worried contact adultwork and ask them about their data storage policy.  It's in their interests to keep everyone happy that they offer a discreet service.

don't suppose, you know their email address do you Pepe?

[PepeMAGA]

No,  just the form on the contact area or the postal address.

[stupidbafoon]

No,  just the form on the contact area or the postal address.

Thanks anyway, same with me, and no emails get through. Cheers, will just have to hope that i get away with a 3 month period of stupidity. Thanks again.

[PepeMAGA]

Honestly,  don't worry yourself about it mate,  worst comes to worst.... Actually fuck that,  nothing bad will happen,  take Jimmy's advice and have a beer