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finally once you’ve posted photos with face pictures on here they never get deleted.  So 10 years later once you’ve settled down and left the industry or have kids, you’re forever wondering will someone possibly out you to your family
That is why it is better to just link to the SP's profile.  When they retire, they take down their profile and there are no photos on here that are there forever.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 02:22:13 pm by RandomGuy99 »

Offline Doc Holliday

I'm really struggling with the concept that huge numbers of SP's don't want positive reviews?

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When they retire, they take down their profile and ...

... everything disappears. If only it was that simple but it isn't. Once you have had a public internet 'adult' presence, removing it can be very difficult .. although in time much of it does gradually disappear.


Offline KatieEdinburgh

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I'm really struggling with the concept that huge numbers of SP's don't want positive reviews?

Probably for discretion, is the number one reason.

Also since you can do really well financially without reviews, getting a positive can drive you actually too much traffic. And some of it (probably not active reviewers but the lurkers) are the bad types of clients

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... everything disappears. If only it was that simple but it isn't. Once you have had a public internet 'adult' presence, removing it can be very difficult .. although in time much of it does gradually disappear.
Agreed, which is why it's a bad idea for SPs to show their face on photos. Especially in the world of face recognition on Facebook and other applications.

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Some excellent points, I think that's why this site is better than a normal review site.

You have experienced punters who are not only able to decipher a review, but can also look at a reviewers history of punts and see if that is typical of his punts or contrary. Further comments or clarification can be sought / added.

I do think about the impact of my reviews, to both the SP and fellow punters. For SP's I base my rating around factual correctness and the SP's attitude. if one factor is missing, I usually give a neutral, two factors and it's negative. If both factors are present and correct, I give a positive.

Offline Doc Holliday

Probably for discretion, is the number one reason.

Also since you can do really well financially without reviews, getting a positive can drive you actually too much traffic. And some of it (probably not active reviewers but the lurkers) are the bad types of clients

Sorry, but still makes no sense to me when applied 'across the board'.

Specifically the bad types of client are more likely to come from those who do not read UKP etc, simply because 'mathematically', the majority of punters do not read UKP.


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Agreed, which is why it's a bad idea for SPs to show their face on photos. Especially in the world of face recognition on Facebook and other applications.

Why is it a "bad" idea?

Are you assuming that all SP's have an issue with people knowing occupation they do / have done?

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Why is it a "bad" idea?

Are you assuming that all SP's have an issue with people knowing occupation they do / have done?
Because you could do a face recognition search and find out their real name, etc. 

And you never know what agencies are doing these searches. In the future they might get used for passport or visa applications or no fly list checking when visiting certain countries.

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Sorry, but still makes no sense to me when applied 'across the board'.

Well it probably wouldn’t make sense to you [a client] as you’re  seeing it from that side only.
I’m just reporting how a lot of ladies feel about reviews, they hate getting positive reviews just as much as negatives in some cases !!

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In the future they might get used for passport or visa applications or no fly list checking when visiting certain countries.

Already are doing this actually. But only scraping some websites, as far as I know not Adultwork yet and only for going in and out of the USA .
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 02:55:26 pm by KatieEdinburgh »

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Already are doing this actually. But only scraping some websites, as far as I know not Adultwork yet and only for going in and out of the USA .

You underestimate what's currently happening in facial recognition

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Sure. However the main differences are between those it’s not a review on someone’s looks which naturally people do get upset about IRL, not as dangerous as regular businesses aren’t attracting the same amount of stalkers or weirdos, plus  finally once you’ve posted photos with face pictures on here they never get deleted. So 10 years later once you’ve settled down and left the industry or have kids, you’re forever wondering will someone possibly out you to your family

Other than that …yeah it’s completely the same as regular business reviews  :unknown:
There's an unwritten rule that everyone should adhere to and that is never post something online if you think it may come back to bite you later in life. There's loads of escorts get by without ever posting a face pic.

Don't forget only photos readily available on adverts etc can be posted on here. Ones from private galleries, social media or sent to a punter on WhatsApp aren't allowed.

Just to add to this Katie, AW verification pictures can not be posted, linked to, quoted or reposted. It would be an impossible task to remove the ones on the site. already.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 03:26:44 pm by daviemac »

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You underestimate what's currently happening in facial recognition

Well I think I’m not underestimating it as I fall on the more cautious/paranoid side. Never posted a face pic anywhere for this reason.

I just have proof that ladies turned away at the border were trying to go to the States. Of which I know this definitely true as I know people personally that this has happened to. So far not other countries. And it does mainly scrape the American sites and certainly can’t track hidden AW pictures or Veri pics that you send to admin, to get verified as otherwise none of us could travel there

But that’s not to say they might not do this in the future, work with Adultwork to get all private pictures too. I am fully aware you can do fine without showing face as I already do… I’m talking about verification photos x
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 03:19:15 pm by KatieEdinburgh »

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You underestimate what's currently happening in facial recognition
The casinos in Las Vegas now have computerised card playing machines which have digital card dealers which do face recognition and will follow you with their eyes as you walk by trying to entice you in to play. It's only a matter of time before they hook these up to databases where they can identify you and your credit rating and start greeting you by name.

I imagine the police could get some interesting data from town centre video cameras if they hooked them up to face recognition. They could identify who is visiting certain premises and arrival and departure times.  i don't think this happens, but it could in the future.

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Just to add to this Katie, AW verification pictures can not be posted, linked to, quoted or reposted. It would be an impossible task to remove the ones on the site. already.
You should be able to identify which images are associated with certain posts and then delete the associated image files from the folders on the server or remove the image links. Not impossible, but definitely a time consuming task.

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You should be able to identify which images are associated with certain posts and then delete the associated image files from the folders on the server or remove the image links. Not impossible, but definitely a time consuming task.
Agreed not strictly impossible but as there are 284,313 topics with a total of 3,197,081 posts and any one of those posts could have an AW verification picture in along with other pics, would you like to estimate how long it would take to look through them all?  Bear in mind the posting of AW veri pics when allowed was not restricted to reviews, they popped up anywhere.    :unknown:

BTW an image file is just that, an image file, there's nothing to distinguish AW veri pics from any other pic.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 03:58:18 pm by daviemac »

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Agreed not strictly impossible but as there are 284,313 topics with a total of 3,197,081 posts and any one of those posts could have an AW verification picture in along with other pics, would you like to estimate how long it would take to look through them all?  Bear in mind the posting of AW veri pics when allowed was not restricted to reviews, they popped up anywhere.    :unknown:

BTW an image file is just that, an image file, there's nothing to distinguish AW veri pics from any other pic.
Good point but I think there are some verification photo threads that have large numbers of these photos in. They could be identified and zapped relatively easily based on post or thread id which I think is in the page URL.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 04:00:43 pm by RandomGuy99 »

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Good point but I think there are some verification photo threads that have large numbers of these photos in. They could be identified and zapped relatively easily based on post or thread id which I think is in the page URL.
Feel free to do it then. By banning the reposting, quoting or linking to them we have done all we are going to do regarding AW veri pics. The site owner, Admin or mods do not have the time or inclination to trawl through the site to delete photos that could well be out there on other sites.

I should add that posting a link to a thread with an AW veri pic in is not allowed, it isn't just links to the actual post.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 04:12:01 pm by daviemac »

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Good point but I think there are some verification photo threads that have large numbers of these photos in. They could be identified and zapped relatively easily based on post or thread id which I think is in the page URL.

It's worth a reminder that when Oldadmin tried to purge a load of old photos (that were posted by idiots using the site as a photo gallery) he managed to kill the site database. Took several days to get it back, and some of the older posts were never restored

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It's worth a reminder that when Oldadmin tried to purge a load of old photos (that were posted by idiots using the site as a photo gallery) he managed to kill the site database. Took several days to get it back, and some of the older posts were never restored
Agreed, you have to be careful and take a backup before you go changing it and you need to understand how the forum software stores its data and where.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2023, 04:38:05 pm by RandomGuy99 »

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Well it probably wouldn’t make sense to you [a client] as you’re  seeing it from that side only.
I’m just reporting how a lot of ladies feel about reviews, they hate getting positive reviews just as much as negatives in some cases !!

Actually no I am inputting from both sides and from quite a 'broad church' also, although I will concede most of information is a little 'historical'.

However I struggle to accept the whole scene has changed that significantly with regard to the importance of positive feedback and reviews to SP's. I also concede it is not all SPs for a variety of reasons, but you have implied it is 'most' and that doesn't fit with both with my own experience as well as just simple business logic.

Oh and you didn't answer my specific point about bad punters?  :hi:

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Agreed but on business reviews someone doesn't say they had a smelly pussy and droppy tits. Remember the mental health impact of that being read by the SP.

You can write a negative review without using such emotive language and that might be more acceptable.


The whole reviewing process adds stress to the SP regardless of whether they're positive or negative reviews.  It's a constant fear.

For me this is the crux of why so many SP's dislike this site so much, its the inflammatory and personal language used in a review.

We get that you have had a negative experience and that others need to be made aware as does the SP to be able to improve but statements like the above can be very damaging to someone's mental health and confidence.

On a personal note I have no issues with the site or being reviewed,  I'm not everyone's cup of tea and that's fine, the site is improving dramatically from a few years ago and the language is improving as is the tolerance of a few of us SP being active here, again not everyone likes that but we are here and can add insight into issues and subjects that benefit this community.

On the subject of linking UKP members reviews to specific clients,  I really don't have the time to play cross reference and guess the punter,  I do however only have 1 review where I don't know who it was IRL and I cba to try and figure it out  :lol:


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I do however only have 1 review where I don't know who it was IRL and I cba to try and figure it out  :lol:

It was Spartacus



Offline paul_tall_

Agreed but on business reviews someone doesn't say they had a smelly pussy and droppy tits. Remember the mental health impact of that being read by the SP.

You can write a negative review without using such emotive language and that might be more acceptable.

The whole reviewing process adds stress to the SP regardless of whether they're positive or negative reviews.  It's a constant fear.
Providing the review was accurate then what are you meant to say in that case in your eyes?
Based on what you are saying do you now regret some of your negative reviews and the comments re the body shapes of some of the girls?

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You underestimate what's currently happening in facial recognition

Facial recognition is soon coming to a supermarket near you, and the software will decide if you look over 25.   Digital id can be used in some places, but not yet in supermarkets, but with the implementation of facial recognition, digital id will be part of this

Supermarkets have already conducted trials on this, and all the self scans have the ability to do this, as each self scan has camera.  It these camera's you will be asked to look at when purchasing a age related item

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Providing the review was accurate then what are you meant to say in that case in your eyes?
Based on what you are saying do you now regret some of your negative reviews and the comments re the body shapes of some of the girls?
I think you could say that you did/did not find the SP attractive (subjective) and whether they lived up to your expectations based on their photos. Just because an SP isn't attractive to you doesn't mean they're not attractive to another SS. We all have our likes. 

You don't have to get into scoring the SPs on looks like she was a 9 or a 2. You could say she was good looking but not stunning or girl next door look. My view of what a 9 is may be quite different to yours.

Don't write your reviews when you're feeling pissed off about a bad experience. Reflect on the experience a little and think about if there were things you did that might have affected things. Then write a factual review without going into lots of unnecessary nasty details.

You don't have to use graphic language, offensive or abusive language. Just the SP looked like I expected or not.  Body showing signs of age. The SP would probably acknowledge that she doesn't look like she did when she was 18 if she is now 45, but there's no need to say droppy tits, etc. 

Yes, I definitely could have used better words to describe some and that might have avoided some situations. They still deserved to be negatives mostly for service related issues, but I could have described the SP better and left it less open to interpretation. However, if an SP looks larger than her photos you have to say it, but you can just state facts without being nasty about it.

You live and learn and I'd like to think that I have. Time will tell.
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In hindsight I think some of my negatives are due to me:

- Going off type - so immediately the SP isn't really what I find attractive e.g the SP has massive boobs. I don't really go for women with massive boobs or the fake look, so I was experimenting with seeing an SP of a different look which was a mistake. That's my fault for choosing the wrong SP for me. They may be ideal for someone else who likes massive boobs.

- Going with a plan B or a short notice booking meaning I go for whoever is available instead of an SP I actually want to see.  I walk in the door and immediately regret it. In these cases I usually walk now or just keep my money in my pocket until I find someone I really want to see.  I ised to try to get 3 or 4 bookings in a week and sometimes it was a struggle to find 3 or 4 good new to me SPs a week. I was just doing bookings because I was bored and had the opportunity.

- Not being sure how to handle certain situations as I'd never experienced a similar situation before, so I go with the flow when maybe I should have walked.

- I tend not to be very demanding on bookings and go with the flow. I've now learned to ask for what I want and SPs are generally ok with it. However, sometimes there's a language barrier and that can make it difficult to explain what I do and don't like. Perhaps that's partly my fault?

I've now abandoned the whole scoring thing as I think it's a bit insulting and it is subjective

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I’d tend to disagree based on the site rules, it’s a punters forum for punters, and to say they aren’t allowed to say “saggy tits” anymore for fear of upsetting a sp isn’t what the ethos of the site is about. Many members would argue service providers shouldn’t be on this site, coincidentally that did come up in a recent conversation here today.

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This Forum puts the interests of Punters first through the sharing of Reviews. The Forum does not endorse or promote any service provider or any other site. This site is totally independent. No favouritism, no special treatment, no vested interests and no pandering to service providers. Members are expected to post Reviews, although there is no formal quota (see rule 27). General chat relating to Punting is allowed on the appropriate Board.

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I’d tend to disagree based on the site rules, it’s a punters forum for punters, and to say they aren’t allowed to say “saggy tits” anymore for fear of upsetting a sp isn’t what the ethos of the site is about. Many members would argue service providers shouldn’t be on this site, coincidentally that did come up in a recent conversation here today.

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This Forum puts the interests of Punters first through the sharing of Reviews. The Forum does not endorse or promote any service provider or any other site. This site is totally independent. No favouritism, no special treatment, no vested interests and no pandering to service providers. Members are expected to post Reviews, although there is no formal quota (see rule 27). General chat relating to Punting is allowed on the appropriate Board.

100% this. If the girl being reviewed has saggy tits then it should be mentioned in the review full stop, as many punters are very selective etc. That’s basically what this site is all about. Reviewing escorts and massage providers with as much detail as possible. End of

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Some salient points but lots of supposing clouding the crux of what a review site is about.

1) We are here to share our experiences of services rendered for not inconsequential sums of money.
- Some women trade on their looks whilst many more perhaps would like to be appreciated for them too, no matter how "imperfect" they know themselves to be and considering how much they are asking for their sexual indulgence and what men are trying to avoid by paying for sex.
- Some/many/most SPs mislead about their looks and attitude to men and sex.
- Some SPs are "managed" or coerced and the duplicity is perhaps more upon the pimps but still the clients are reflecting on the resultant service whether offered as a consequence of exploitation, cooperation or individual.

Further:
- No punter is the sum of their reviews.  So many don't review, many don't review many of the SPs they see, some only review the SPs they don't care to see again whether pos, neut or neg, very few review all the SPs they see.  No reader can know, they can only take each review for what it is and then choose to prejudice their take on it by how much they agree or disagree with their perception of the author's previous writings.
- Those who review aren't always consistent with how or what they review about an encounter because despite being condemned as "C*nts who pay for c*nt" they are emotional human beings, to greater or lesser degree, in possibly different frames of mind in different punts to satisfy their momentary needs, be they intimacy, fucking, emotional, social, etc.
- Each punter may have differing sensitivities to the price he pays for his SP type of the moment.  Some punters are rigid in the type they want, others try all sorts that they may "judge" differently.  Gentle or harsh, for this site to be credible, we have to presume the comments are still born of a truth that may need some context.  Whether it's an SS or an SP reading the review, first and foremost one has to temper your response to the words used with some acknowledgment of what the author was seeking and how that was influenced by the expectation and experience created by the interaction with the SP concerned.
- Users of review sites are of a mindset that they want better insight into what they can expect for their money, to wit you pays the demanded price in expectation of a car with performance and characteristics specified that you have deemed desirable and necessary, you don't pay money expecting said car and settle for an actual fridge (this is not to say that any SP looks like a fridge).  In this more invested commitment we are perhaps an unrepresentative minority of the wider punting unwashed. 
- SPs have to deal with all sorts of a-holes acting on impulse or measured menace being abusive, offensive, disrespectful and violent whether in comms or during the meet.  Then add the UKPers, both silent and vocal, who span the spectrum of intent and then the more genteel non-UKPer. That is not to excuse lying within the offer made in the first place.  Think about that dynamic, woman lies to man, man is still compelled to pay by his foolishness, man has all manner of emotions once his wallet is emptier and perhaps his needs not sufficiently met.  Many punters are trying to escape that kind of thing in their civvy lives of failed relationships, partners not interested in sex, impatience with or inability to date because of who they are, how they're perceived, how they're judged, what they want from sex, how socially awkward they are, what anxiety they suffer from, etc.

Too much as it may be, set aside the pimps, the scammers, the nutcase SSs - all those who would abuse the oldest service industry.
Once you try to consider and appreciate the multiplicity of (sad) factors affecting both SSs and SPs there are too many psychological factors at play for any one participant to be always sunny and happy with any particular outcum [sic], but much like couple's therapy both sides need to appreciate and respect the needs and wants of the other party.  Few SPs can coolly assess what service they are willing to provide and own how they honestly sell it.  When their customers are disappointed it is most likely that the marketing and delivery is the cause.  Few punters punt just so they can be disappointed by what happens.

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Some can be identified without links to reviews or AW, before any booking has been made - clues fall into place can be posting style, post timing, content of posts. Sometimes members want an SP to know their forum identity, a long time ago a member booked me anonymously, made an advance booking directly without mention of forums.

An active poster interacting on the forum then sent PMs here dropping hints but without explicitly saying it was him who booked me, I couldn't be totally sure but it did put me on edge. During the booking he brought up the topic of how he found me, he told me he had found me on a directory  no reference to here I still couldn't be sure. I now know it's him, at the time I felt played with, confused and apprehensive before during and after the booking.
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Your feeling we’re probably right and someone may have booked you and then played with your head, unfortunately because they could, I agree isn’t right and if escorts weren’t on ukp that could have been avoided somewhat would you agree?


Sorry that’s not aimed directly at you in case I’ve come across that way, I’m saying any escort on here is wide open to punters booking them just off seeing them here in your opinion.
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Your feeling we’re probably right and someone may have booked you and then played with your head, unfortunately because they could, I agree isn’t right and if escorts weren’t on ukp that could have been avoided somewhat would you agree?


Sorry that’s not aimed directly at you in case I’ve come across that way, I’m saying any escort on here is wide open to punters booking them just off seeing them here in your opinion.

Absolutely it was the game playing that was the problem, could be argued I'm open to not being booked too.
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Absolutely it was the game playing that was the problem, could be argued I'm open to not being booked too.

We always tell punters not to link their profile here with aw, a suggestion would be the same with escorts here so they can’t be associated and booked ?

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We always tell punters not to link their profile here with aw, a suggestion would be the same with escorts here so they can’t be associated and booked ?

But how would that work with the site rules  :unknown:

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But how would that work with the site rules  :unknown:

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Could also prompt the 'who are you' questions on the forum.

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All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

Is that not for the registration/ site rather than open public knowledge?
I’ve never really looking into that if I’m honest, never had it questioned.
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All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

Is that not for the registration/ site rather than open public knowledge?
I’ve never really looking into that if I’m honest, never had it questioned.

That was the intention I believe. It is badly worded and it should read 'must reveal their working identity to admin to be designated SP status'. The problem is then what username is chosen and whether this then easily links to that SP's profile which often it does.

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For me this is the crux of why so many SP's dislike this site so much, its the inflammatory and personal language used in a review.

We get that you have had a negative experience and that others need to be made aware as does the SP to be able to improve but statements like the above can be very damaging to someone's mental health and confidence.


It's very difficult given that a physical description is normally required. There are ways of using descriptive language though.. one man's 'droopy tits' could be another's 'pendulous breasts' etc.

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Could also prompt the 'who are you' questions on the forum.

Which I understand is not allowed.. although that should perhaps also be made clearer in the rules?

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But how would that work with the site rules  :unknown:

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This site allows service providers to be members, but zero tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude toward punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is neither a chat platform between clients and service providers nor a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

If registration requires a WG to publicly reveal her identity on the forum, as opposed to just admin to achieve registration - it doesn't surprise me that a WG wouldn't want to be on this site if that's the case.

I think that needs addressing. That's not good for the WG and can lead to abuse .

We would definitely benefit by having more WG's on here.

If Admin approve a WG, then it should not be open to punters to question them to reveal their identity - that should lead to a trip to the sin bin IMHO.
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I’d tend to disagree based on the site rules, it’s a punters forum for punters, and to say they aren’t allowed to say “saggy tits” anymore for fear of upsetting a sp isn’t what the ethos of the site is about. Many members would argue service providers shouldn’t be on this site, coincidentally that did come up in a recent conversation here today.

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It's rule number 1 paragraph 1 - that's how important it is. It's the total ethos of the site.

If an SP is representing herself as having a particular body type / tone etc it's our obligation to tell the truth, if that isn't the case. I visited an SP this week and her pictures are flattering, she isn't as toned as she advertises, and her face is round and not sharp as presented in her photoshopped AW pictures.

So if I say she has sausage legs and a chubby round face - is that wrong for me to do so?

When I eat at a restaurant, is it wrong to say that the chef overcooked the vegetables and burnt the steak, because it might hurt his feelings, damage his ego, make him look like a poor team member to his boss and colleagues?

Unfortunately, we all have feelings, but when we provide a paying service to members of the public, we should be expected to be publicly judged on it. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

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It's very difficult given that a physical description is normally required. There are ways of using descriptive language though.. one man's 'droopy tits' could be another's 'pendulous breasts' etc.
Except that 'pendulous breasts' sounds kinda positive (to a big boob lover like me at least), whereas 'droopy tits' is definitely a negative.  If we are having to dress up our reasons why we don't like a girl to look like positives ("She has an indescribable beauty" = nothing about her that I would describe as beautiful), then it is going to make reviews very difficult to decipher.   

I usually start with whether I think a WG looks like her photos, and if not, in what way.  But even this has its pitfalls - I have seen reviews that say the girl looks nothing like her photos, who I have seen and think her photos are a good representation.

Rather than try and write reviews that are so watered-down that they offend nobody, I think it better to write reviews in a way that maintains the writer's anonymity, as best possible. 

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If registration requires a WG to publicly reveal her identity on the forum, as opposed to just admin to achieve registration - it doesn't surprise me that a WG wouldn't want to be on this site if that's the case.

I think that needs addressing. That's not good for the WG and can lead to abuse .

We would definitely benefit by having more WG's on here.

If Admin approve a WG, then it should not be open to punters to question them to reveal their identity - that should lead to a trip to the sin bin IMHO.
Escorts don't have to disclose their working identities publicly, they do have to disclose they are SPs and reveal their working names to the mods or admin if asked.

Some sign up using their working names others don't but will say they are the SP concerned if replying to a review.

Offline Munter84

100% this. If the girl being reviewed has saggy tits then it should be mentioned in the review full stop, as many punters are very selective etc. That’s basically what this site is all about. Reviewing escorts and massage providers with as much detail as possible. End of

Right!! - especially if the aforementioned saggy tits are carefully hidden in all her photos, or photoshopped to be full firm D-cups. Calling her tits saggy isn't necessarily intended as a throwaway insult, it's salient information for the next punter who may have made the decision to part with his hard-earned cash because he's a boobs guy.

In 99% of life it's inappropriate to objectify or criticise a woman's looks; we're not dinosaurs, we know this. I'd say an escort review site is one of the last places is objectively IS appropriate to get into the nitty gritty, when justified, of how an SP's age, weight, and attractiveness rates and whether it differs from what's advertised.

To use a comparison, if I was invited to a friend's house for dinner and the meal wasn't entirely to my liking, it would be the height of bad manners to start giving my unfiltered opinion. If I had paid for the same meal in a restaurant? That's different - let them know about it. Yes, the line chefs all have feelings, and no they may not immediately appreciate being told some aspects were lacking, but when money is changing hands then it becomes a two-way street.

My final remark would be that surely SPs by the nature of the job need to be fairly thick skinned? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely don't condone any kind of abuse, but it should be completely fair game to mention things like "Photos are old and unrepresentative, perhaps 15 years out of date" or "Lady is three dress sizes larger than stated in profile" or even very subjective things like "I found her facially unattractive and her smell was a boner killer". This is stuff that other punters have a right to know, and I as the hypothetical buyer have a right to air my opinion on. It can't be the situation that "sex work is real work!" when it suits SPs, but then becomes a deeply personal interaction that needs to be spoken of in whispers and euphemisms when the service buyer wants to have their say.

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In 99% of life it's inappropriate to objectify or criticise a woman's looks; we're not dinosaurs, we know this. I'd say an escort review site is one of the last places is objectively IS appropriate to get into the nitty gritty, when justified, of how an SP's age, weight, and attractiveness rates and whether it differs from what's advertised.
If it weren't so important, there wouldn't be so many SPs who deliberately set out to deceive in these matters.