What's happened to punting (or have they moved from AW to somewhere else?)

[Nigel57]

Not that many years ago I was working regularly in south Leicester. At that time you could go on AW and do a postcode search for the south side of the city (say LE2) and get a couple of pages of profiles, mainly British women, often MILFS or ordinary housewives, looking for a bit of fun and a bit of money on the side. They usually responded fairly quickly & were reliable to work with and generally nice people. You were spoilt for choice and I've had some good experiences, in fact I'm still friends with one I met at that time.

Now if you search on a postcode you're lucky if half a dozen come up and most of them are either obese, old, Eastern Europeans or touring pimped Asians.

Have those sorts migrated to a different platform and AW is avoided by the British local lasses looking for fun? (or have I just become a miserable old git?)

[JD1]

I have also noticed similar in the Nottingham/Derby area - since I first started punting around a year ago the number of girls coming up in my searches seems to have decreased, most notably it seems to be less British touring girls passing through in this area.

An SP recently commented on this as well, saying there is less competition now compared to when she started.

Not really sure of the reasons unfortunately.

[ZeroCount]

That's interesting, I'm not sure I notice any significant difference to when I started a decade or so ago, but perhaps I'm just being really unobservant!

I'm always wishing there were more girls available, it would be fantastic if there were enough around to try out a really good new girl every week, but that's something I've always thought rather than any recent development.

I'm surprised that the current cost of living crisis hasn't led to more girls giving it a shot, but perhaps the majority of those are going to OF or similar.

[Maverick1138]

Could be due to Covid period...some WGs have mentioned they had to get proper jobs and gone part time escorting as they now like the comfort of regular income.

[scutty brown]

The market has changed in the last few years.
Older women have been retiring, but no longer being replaced by new British starters. The entry into sex work now for Brits is via camming, videos, personal websites. If you want a fuck, find a foreigner

[chrisintcov]

The market has changed in the last few years.
Older women have been retiring, but no longer being replaced by new British starters. The entry into sex work now for Brits is via camming, videos, personal websites. If you want a fuck, find a foreigner

This.

[badsin]

The market has changed in the last few years.
Older women have been retiring, but no longer being replaced by new British starters. The entry into sex work now for Brits is via camming, videos, personal websites. If you want a fuck, find a foreigner

This.
Many of those younger potential SPs have moved into sugaring. I know of two who are pulling in 6 figure's a year. Can't blame them for cashing in, and seeing considerably fewer clients, than escorting etc.
However, from our point of view it's creating a new market. I'd much prefer some fit British bird's

[scutty brown]

I forgot to add that a lot of British girls entry to sex work was via traditional parlours and managed brothels, and they're almost extinct.
With nowhere for a girl to give whoring a trial in a relatively secure environment theres a big disincentive to start.

[Formicahunt]

There's also a lot of money to be made in places like Dubai for young British sex workers.

Agree that Leicester has become a bit stale, my first Leicester punt was with a young Zoe Ball lookalike in a tiny ground floor flat in Stoneygate, 50 owo and FS and it's been abl steady decline since then.

[Notts bloke]

A fit girl can now have an onlyfans and make a killing. It's crazy just how much they can make.

[ZeroCount]

A fit girl can now have an onlyfans and make a killing. It's crazy just how much they can make.

Sure, but the market's pretty saturated these days. You need to be super-fit (or niche, or just very lucky) to build up a decent following on there. And the really fit girls were rarely the ones you'd get offering a fuck for sensible money, even back in the day. They'd either be modelling, or working for high end agencies charging ridiculous rates.

Your can see this is true from the number of girls who do both OF and escorting. If OF was such a ticket to instant riches, they certainly wouldn't be bothering to drop their knickers for the likes of us on the side.

[badsin]

I forgot to add that a lot of British girls entry to sex work was via traditional parlours and managed brothels, and they're almost extinct.
With nowhere for a girl to give whoring a trial in a relatively secure environment theres a big disincentive to start.

Agreed, around 15/20 years ago in Derby there used to be four known parlour type venue's, there's now one , Bubble's.
There was one above an off licence on Ashbourne rd years ago, where the maid was about the fittest women I've ever seen. Asked her to join in.......

[Newtothisstuff]

Since lockdown, I've had more happy ending massage bookings than straight fuck bookings. I used to travel up to Mansfield a lot. An AW search within 5 miles of the centre of town would typically pull up 2 or 3 pages of SPs. Now it's just one. All the well known and popular SPs have gone. What's left now is mainly Romanians, mature SPs charging more than ever before or part timers with reliability issues.
None of them interest me and I'm hearing too many rumours about bareback being offered utc.
I've no idea when the situation will sort itself out, but right now, if a couple of young, reliable girls moved in and didn't price themselves out of the market, they could be very busy.

[Mansfieldman]

I couldn’t agree with you more .. i was going to post exactly the same thing but I never got round to it..
The quality of the women is just shit. They are either very sexy younger girls who are pricing themselves out of the game and more than likely giving a very average service or just absolute fat pigs who still want £70 for half hour…
I too have been mostly having a massage and happy ending . Because to be brutally honest.. the anxiety of going to meet someone who is new or that I am paying alot for, has an impact on my performance!
I cannot be arsed with the disappointment anymore. Money Is tighter than a couple of years ago for sure.
I’ve got two regulars now .. one massage and one for my fetish needs who both charge less than anyone and give me a lot of pleasure..

[Newtothisstuff]

I'm going to stick to massages if I visit Mansfield and I'll think about punts when I'm somewhere else. The main worry I have in Mansfield right now is the level of barebacking.  Take SexyAntonia (or something like that). When she started in Mansfield, she didn't make it blatant that bareback was on offer. But make contact, and she'd text back some generic cut-and-paste text listing the building address just off the A60 and offering bareback and anal for an extra £50. It was only later that she ticked the 'bareback' box on the likes lists. I see she's still offering it now she has moved to Leicester.  Others were a little more discrete. At the moment, the whole punting scene in the area is just too fucked up for me to be tempted.  It's a sad state of affairs when half the SPs advertising are the same age as the Glapwell Grannies and many of them are charging the same as some of the top Nottingham girls. The Glapwell Grannies charge £150ph. So does Hanna Lorde. There's just no comparison. I did try contacting a couple of the newer girls in the area, only to be told that several things listed were extra and a 1hr booking Inc OWO or CIM was looking like £200!  How the fuck is a mid 50's size 14+ Grandmother worth £3.33 a minute?!

[Nigel57]

Thank you for your replies, I thought it was just me. I'm not really interested in the glamorous twenty somethings with pouty lips and hydraulic boobs. I just want a nice British housewife with a half decent figure, a wet pussy and a twinkle in her eye that can hold an intelligent conversation whilst simultaneously sucking my cock. They all seem to have disappeared or have become so unreliable.

I recently went for my first HE massage with a Thai lady, a very well reviewed lady on here. Not something I thought I would enjoy as I really like an extended session of OWO & 69. However a reasonable good looking polite lady giving a relaxing massage with a few reach unders and then on turnover a nice HE. Easy to book at a known location, no performance stress, pure indulgence at reasonable cost. What's not to like?

[ZeroCount]

I just want a nice British housewife with a half decent figure, a wet pussy and a twinkle in her eye that can hold an intelligent conversation whilst simultaneously sucking my cock.

You're after a ventriloquist then? No wonder you're having trouble mate, there's a lot less of them around these days than there were back in the 70s.

[Nigel57]

You're after a ventriloquist then? No wonder you're having trouble mate, there's a lot less of them around these days than there were back in the 70s.

 

[Lincs.man1]

You're after a ventriloquist then? No wonder you're having trouble mate, there's a lot less of them around these days than there were back in the 70s.

Gottle o Gear....

[geostorm1]

I would say the reason could also be since covid a lot more men working from home which means the women can't be shagging punters in the family residence.

[Lincolnlad137]

I would say the reason could also be since covid a lot more men working from home which means the women can't be shagging punters in the family residence.

I reckon you’ve hit the nail on the head there mate!

[Nottsguy69]

I think a lot of British escorts have just priced themselves out of any work to be honest and end up giving up  .  The foreign adverts are far more affordable , the Brits have ridiculous 3 digit prices some even for 15 mins . Crazy

[badsin]

Not to sure regards those SPs working from home.
Certainly I can think of a few that packed up around the COVID (first lockdown), and haven't returned, which is a shame.
I still think decreasing numbers of massage parlours decreased those entering into  "the game"....
Seeking Arrangements would also mean that newbies have fewer 'clients' but likely a higher return.
Ultimately this would be a better topic discussed by the SP members on here?

[Newtothisstuff]

Every industry goes through change. But eventually one thing always happens. If there's a demand, someone will supply it.  At the moment, there are still local SPs. The change seems to be that there are fewer of them and their prices are often too high.  It'll sort itself out eventually.  It just might take a few years.

[Colston36]

Thank you for your replies, I thought it was just me. I'm not really interested in the glamorous twenty somethings with pouty lips and hydraulic boobs. I just want a nice British housewife with a half decent figure, a wet pussy and a twinkle in her eye that can hold an intelligent conversation whilst simultaneously sucking my cock. They all seem to have disappeared or have become so unreliable.

I recently went for my first HE massage with a Thai lady, a very well reviewed lady on here. Not something I thought I would enjoy as I really like an extended session of OWO & 69. However a reasonable good looking polite lady giving a relaxing massage with a few reach unders and then on turnover a nice HE. Easy to book at a known location, no performance stress, pure indulgence at reasonable cost. What's not to like?

You seem to be looking for a woman wigh three mouths. Good luck!

[NervousJ]

pricing is ridiculous at or sent. i refuse to pay £100 hh or £90hh, hence my reduced punting. as said in more likely to have a massage and he at present...

i know a lass who made £9k in her first 6 weeks on only fans... crackers...

[Colston36]

I have also noticed similar in the Nottingham/Derby area - since I first started punting around a year ago the number of girls coming up in my searches seems to have decreased, most notably it seems to be less British touring girls passing through in this area.

An SP recently commented on this as well, saying there is less competition now compared to when she started.

Not really sure of the reasons unfortunately.

There are three. Brexit. Brexit. And Brexit. I was in favour of it as I resent European bureaucracy. But our government's incompetence seems if anything worse. Someone once said British soldiers were "Lions led by donkeys". We are now led by creepy bullshit artists  and I doubt things will get better.

[Mutinyonthecounty]

Some really great points made on here and I pretty much agree with them all.

Covid had a significant impact on the sex industry. It was a real breakthrough moment for OnlyFans I guess. Technology normally disrupts things and Covid provided the ideal environment for digital platforms.

I think another factor, which I think someone has already mentioned, is that a lot of girls had to find alternative employment and stepped into regular jobs. I know one girl who got a job as a delivery driver and she never looked back since.

I think the other great point that someone has made is the decrease in the number of parlours out there which provide a safe environment for girls to work in.

Going back not even 10 years ago, Mansfield and Notts had a great choice of girls and over the border in Derby there were many well established and ‘pop up’ parlours. There was one on London Road near the sex shop - which is where I first met Chelsea Hart in fact. That cost me a significant amount of money over the years.

I think in recent times 2018 - 2020ish were great years as you had brilliant girls like LB, Riley and CH in and around Mansfield. Now it is a wasteland.

I think also for me personally, I really cannot bring myself to pay £100 for 30 mins with a random girl off AW. I just cannot justify it to myself, which is probably why I am pretty much limited to DL nowadays.

Finally, for me, Covid changed my outlook. I didn’t punt for 4 months and actually I got used to it and I enjoyed having the extra money to spend on stuff which would give me much longer enjoyment than 30 mins of soulless sex. It always reminds me of that that great story NIK told on here. He was working in Mansfield and was going to spend some money on a punt. But then he decided to pop into Clarke’s 😂 and purchase 2 pairs of shoes instead, which he said was a better investment. I love that story.

[ZeroCount]

If it's any consolation Mutiny, you bring a lot of pleasure to people with your fantastic reviews, so it's not money entirely wasted on soulless sex.

I guess that's not much consolation though. Maybe you should start a Patreon? 

[kippydon]

i would also ad to this , saying that decent Escort Agencies have disappeared in Nottingham, again due to covid
 Feline name just one , had some decent ladies , but covid came and they closed down,

and since then nothing decent agencies in nottingham
 

[Newtothisstuff]

MOTC and I seem to have seen many of the same girls and prowled the same dark alleyways over the years. So, it's not a surprise that we also seem to share the same view that the prices are ridiculous and I also refuse to pay £100 for half an hour.
Covid changed the way I punt.  I do still see WGs from time to time, but I'm more selective. If Plan A isn't available, I won't bother looking for a Plan B. I saved my punting budget during Covid and now have a very nice Steinway baby grand piano (obviously not new). I got used to the extra 'play money' and I'm not looking to waste it on an overpriced wg with little if any track record. On AW in Mansfield today, there's a 51 year old woman with no feedback and a very limited likes list charging £90/hh and £160/h!  Just how fucked up can things get? How is a Granny worth £3 a minute?!
I look for two things in a punt. Reliability and good value. At the moment, Mansfield is terrible. Like MOTC, Chelsea cost me a fortune. But, if she went back to work, I'd book her in a heartbeat. I saw her far too many times but never had a bad punt with her.  I don't travel as much as I did for work, so my opportunities to punt are more limited. I've switched more towards a good massage and happy ending now. They're a lot cheaper, the massage is great.... and I still get a woman wanking me off.

[Mutinyonthecounty]

MOTC and I seem to have seen many of the same girls and prowled the same dark alleyways over the years. So, it's not a surprise that we also seem to share the same view that the prices are ridiculous and I also refuse to pay £100 for half an hour.
Covid changed the way I punt.  I do still see WGs from time to time, but I'm more selective. If Plan A isn't available, I won't bother looking for a Plan B. I saved my punting budget during Covid and now have a very nice Steinway baby grand piano (obviously not new). I got used to the extra 'play money' and I'm not looking to waste it on an overpriced wg with little if any track record. On AW in Mansfield today, there's a 51 year old woman with no feedback and a very limited likes list charging £90/hh and £160/h!  Just how fucked up can things get? How is a Granny worth £3 a minute?!
I look for two things in a punt. Reliability and good value. At the moment, Mansfield is terrible. Like MOTC, Chelsea cost me a fortune. But, if she went back to work, I'd book her in a heartbeat. I saw her far too many times but never had a bad punt with her.  I don't travel as much as I did for work, so my opportunities to punt are more limited. I've switched more towards a good massage and happy ending now. They're a lot cheaper, the massage is great.... and I still get a woman wanking me off.

Could not agree more mate.

I started seeing CH in 2010 and over 12 years I think I parted with around £14k - ouch. But let us not concern ourselves with that. I had a great time every time and that was when she was charging £50 for 30 mins and then she put it up to £60. It was still great value for money. I did exchange messages with her back in Feb, but not heard anything since.

I think as I get older I get a sense that my sex drive is diminishing somewhat, so for the first time in 40 years I am in charge and not the other way round. And that feels quite good.

Like you say - the choice these days is sparse, especially around these here parts. I cannot ever see a situation where I would pay £100 for 30 mins. I just cannot see it happening.

I visit DL a couple of times a month. I have been seeing a lot of Paige, but now she is taking a short (I hope) break. What am I to do. The woods are burning. She will be back soon I think and I will go back and see her then to have my balls tied up and a sounding rod in me cock.

I think we would spend a few hours reminiscing about the old days my friend.

[Newtothisstuff]

I'm sure we could.
I'm dissapointed to see that you couldn't talk Chelsea into coming out of retirement. I seem to remember seeing her 3 times in one week once when I was staying in Mansfield. If you ever text again, say hello for me.
I've tried Ceasars a couple of times. I don't think I'll go back.  Helen is good, but I've not got the urge to go back. I was thinking about Presley at DL.

[badsin]

I seem to be hunting unicorn's, I'm after a fit British bird, massuese not escort, offering fbsm, with a tit wank..... this simple requirement seems to be rarer than rocking horse shit 

[Snagbadjer]

The above-average English girls can make loads more money by camming. Or just bagging a rich husband or benefactor.

The below-average English girls can't compete with the far hotter Easter European imports or the Thais or Latina WGs.

[Stoking]

It's funny, because just prior to closing, Felines had quite a few British hotties in the 18-25 age bracket.

Personally I think there's numerous reasons. The recent price hike means I'm struggling to find any British girls who charge less than £200p/h, £120-150 for 30 mins is getting more common too.

OF is the first example many have raised, however I think the collapse of the agencies in many areas of the UK, not just the East Midlands has reduced the number of quality girls signing up to escorting.

Many won't be confident enough (or feel safe enough) to work independently right off the bat. Massage parlours always have had a grotty image for both the girls and us punters so many of the young students wanting to make a quick buck won't sign up to them.

The only alternative is camming or OF.

[Lincs.man1]

I seem to be hunting unicorn's, I'm after a fit British bird, massuese not escort, offering fbsm, with a tit wank..... this simple requirement seems to be rarer than rocking horse shit 

Before anyone suggests i'm a knight of the realm... don't bother, this is purely a suggestion!

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[badsin]

Good call, and she certainly appears busty, fit, and well reviewed 
I was after a massuse opposed to an escort, primarily for the wsws type thrill etc.
However all try to remember this recommendation should I ever be in the Lincolnshire area,  cheers 

[sireel]

I seem to be hunting unicorn's, I'm after a fit British bird, massuese not escort, offering fbsm, with a tit wank..... this simple requirement seems to be rarer than rocking horse shit 

I haven't got round to seeing her yet, but from the reviews, Lucy at Hush might be what you're after.

[badsin]

I haven't got round to seeing her yet, but from the reviews, Lucy at Hush might be what you're after.

Looks good, thank you.
I've had my eye on Melissa here, but she only ever seems to work Wednesdays, which is tricky.
Thanks for the recommendations guys

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[billybobsmith]

With some of these prices and the choice, it could be more prudent booking say a cheap Ryanair flight from Stansted-Frankfurt (or somewhere in Germany) and popping along to an FKK.  At least you can choose what you like the look of there, and a lot will have a good range of the European women some here crave.
i.e. £13.90 each way going out on Tues 20th Jun, back Wed 21st Jun.

Same with Thai women.  If I could get a cheap flight over to Bangkok or somewhere, I would rather spend some £ there than £££ here in the UK and probably get a better and longer experience.

[Jamesbattersea]

Before anyone suggests i'm a knight of the realm... don't bother, this is purely a suggestion!

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Good suggestion, Sir Lancalot!!

I don't know about you mate, but i always laugh when i hear people on here complaining about how shit Leicester or Nottingham are!!! They should try living Lincoln we have Fifi and her mate Laila, Nina if like to listern not talk!, Helena for a massage, couple of new girls i will try if they stick around, a couple of outcallers, a couple that are charging way too much. Apart from that that some occasional touring Thais that are usually as safe bet, touring Latinas that 50/50 as to weather you get a good one and then half a dozen Roms and barebackers.
That's our choice Less than 1 page!! There are 2-3 good ones in Gainsbourgh if you travel 30 mins up the road.
 So you guys in other cities just think yourselves lucky that you were spoilt for choice before.

[Newtothisstuff]

The Spas seem to be really struggling at the moment.  I'm finding that there's not much point looking on some of their websites to see who's working that day. You have a look, decide who to book and make the call. It's fucking annoying to then find out that she hasn't turned up so the one or two other girls left are booked out because they're now covering her bookings too.  The best example is Carly at Ceasars in Codnor.
The last few times that I've tried to book her she's been AWOL. She was scheduled to be working but she simply hadn't turned up that day.
It's a bad sign when Spa's which advertise the girls and make the bookings for them can't find girls who'll actually turn up. Ceasars isn't the only one. I've found same thing with most of them.

[Newtothisstuff]

Pretty shit day for punting.
I came up the M1 this morning heading to Mansfield for the day. First, I thought I'd stop off at a parlour. Ceasars was a blow out. Helen was in but already booked. Neither of the other two girls on the rota had turned up. So... Directors Lodge. Only two girls on the rota today... one only listed a name, age and dress size. The other had a name, photo showing part of her bra and no other info. As ever... no answer on the phone.
Pretty crap selection on AW. There were lots of women in their 50's charging more than 20 year olds in Nottingham.
All said and done, I couldn't even find a single girl under 40 actually free for even a blow-n-go.
I used to love regularly coming up to the Mansfield office. Now, it's becoming a punting desert.  Chesterfield is no better.
The only people who seem to be doing well in the area are the handjob only Thai and Chinese massage parlours. TBH, I've been to a few and I'm fed up of them.  You see a different girl every time and all too often you end up spending 90% of the time getting a crap massage and 10% getting an unenthusiastic wank.
Mansfield is a depressing shithole of a town anyway.... but now even with a wedge of cash in your hand, you can't even get a decent fuck there either.

[geostorm1]

100% agree Newtothisstuff

Sheffield seems to be a bit better for the parlours I think

[Newtothisstuff]

I travel for work (not as much as I used to since lockdown) so I'm limited on where I get sent. Like a lot of companies, we closed some of our offices and the guys work from home. I don't need to visit Sheffield any more.  Probably just as well. That flaming tram system and ludicrous one way system in the centre always piss me off.

[hunkybc]

It's just never been the same since before Lockdown.
The odd gem has popped up but the recent quality hasn't been great..

[Mansfieldman]

I can tell by reading the reviews on here that punting in general is going downhill..
A lot of average overpriced punts but still giving positive reviews….?
Sooo many ugly /below average girls and the others just charge ridiculous amounts,,
Some have lots and lots of reviews (kylie) but personally I don’t want to see someone who is getting a lot of cock..
even the Chinese/Thai girls are mostly a bit minging….

[Newtothisstuff]

personally I don’t want to see someone who is getting a lot of cock..

I think you're going to struggle to find a prostitute who isn't 'minging' or overpriced but isn't getting a lot of cock. That's sort of like looking for a virgin in a maternity ward.
There's a hideously overpriced moose in Mansfield who used to openly offer bareback.  She has a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle and she's STILL getting cock judging by the feedback.
This whole game is fucked up at the moment.  It'll sort itself out.... but I think it could take a few years.

[jayuk99]

i think the pretty girls disappear to Dubai and other tourist areas and make a lot more money than in the UK. We get the older flabby Thai's without travel visasa left behind and also the a postive the working mothers who cant leave the UK