SeekingArrangement.com - Whatever am I missing ?

[TPreston]

Spare time is vital as others have said. A married punter may struggle to find the time to keep up with the texts back and forth necessary some times to build rappor. Many girls will arrange and simply flake on the big day or worse just not show up. If you're time sparse this is hard work.

Looks may rule out some girls but not all, main concern for the girls is a fat wallet rather than a fat belly. A large proportion of girls on there will expect to see a photo of you prior to meeting though.

You have to have a scatter gun approach and keep multiple options open due to the high flake rate and more often than not spontaneity is key (arranging a meet over a week in advance means its unlikely to happen as the girl gets bored of you/gets a better offer/goes off the idea etc).

You will get plenty of deluded types that read propaganda in paid newspaper articles by SA that suggest that paid platonic dates are the norm, but these girls tend to leave the site after a few weeks when they realize this is a myth. Same with 'fin dom' types.

The only fake profiles are from guys setting up catfish accounts IMO, SA claim to have never set up fake female profiles and I believe them, though others have a different opinion - you quickly get most girls onto whatsapp to squash suspicions.

Costs can escalate as you're having longer meets. sorting hotels and often the girls travel costs  (be it taxis or reimbursing train fares/petrol) as well as food and drink when together - even a cheap overnight allowance of £200 can end up costing near £400 all in. Most girls cant host so you're stumping up for a hotel as well. Allowance rates vary on multiple factors.

There is certainly fun in the chase if thats your thing and I would say someone expecting a cheaper AW experience will be a little disappointed. Think online dating sped up to 11, greased by £££. Its highly addictive and once you're hooked you can often be chasing that fresh new young thing thats even kinkier than the last, and the time you travelled to Shrewsbury for a girl to no show is all to quickly forgotten.

Rule number one is NEVER SEND ANY MONEY UP FRONT. Sexual health is a concern as an alarming amount of these girls are blaise about condoms as they enter the world of sex work. And you also have to be cautious messaging on the app itself as SAs moderation and fear of being classed as pimps by in the US means they will suspend your paid account quickly and unjustly if you're classed as soliciting  (yeah I know). So move the conversation to your burner phone ASAP.

Id really say it depends on what youre looking for. SA is not punting and many girls on there will get mortally offended at the suggestion they are sex workers  (even after asking for cash to come to a hotel room with you) so you need patter. If you want sex and can't be arsed with often days of fluff that lead nowhere - punt. If you don't mind investing time and effort into potential dates with sex then SA is excellent - be prepared for frustration along the way, but when you're meeting a uni student and shes enthusiastically noshing you off about an hour after meeting you could well be hooked.

[puntingpumping1920]

Sugar Daddies are punters looking to develop a relationship with whores. 
 
The difference with Escorts and sugar babies are Pro vs non Pro attitude.
 
A pro attitude (Escort) means that she values money as the most important criteria. There are other factors she'll consider but it still comes down to money.
 
A non pro attitude (SugarBaby) means that while money is an important factor, it's not the most important one. She will take other factors into consideration such as chemistry, attraction, compatibility, etc. She usually thinks about money in terms of what she needs and not what the perceived "market rate" is. If the money offered suites her needs and she likes who she's spending time with, then that's good enough for her. They don't go to the highest bidder because they don't necessarily think of putting a price on what they do.

[shagbambi]

Sugar Daddies are punters looking to develop a relationship with whores. 
 
The difference with Escorts and sugar babies are Pro vs non Pro attitude.
 
A pro attitude (Escort) means that she values money as the most important criteria. There are other factors she'll consider but it still comes down to money.
 
A non pro attitude (SugarBaby) means that while money is an important factor, it's not the most important one. She will take other factors into consideration such as chemistry, attraction, compatibility, etc. She usually thinks about money in terms of what she needs and not what the perceived "market rate" is. If the money offered suites her needs and she likes who she's spending time with, then that's good enough for her. They don't go to the highest bidder because they don't necessarily think of putting a price on what they do.

Pretty much spot on, though you will find some AW girls on it too.

[Bikerboy]

Depends on what you’re looking for.
SA often less suitable for pump and dump and those time poor.
If you invest time it can be better than aw but it doesn’t suit a lot and tbh aw is convenient - id like to shag your brains/have your gfe or pse pretend experience for 1 hour next Thursday for £150, OK?!
That said if you are prepared to waste hours talking bollocks to 99% of time wasters to find 1% of pure gold it’s worth it.
Many on ukp haven’t the time or inclination to bother and it ain’t cheap at around £70 a month.

[Mr_Shins]

From what I am getting, having joined the site, there are 2 kinds of arrangement:

 - Monthly tribute, for which she becomes your very own sugar-babe.
 - PPM, (pay per meet) whereby you pay them each time you are going to see them.

The site does not really want PPM but nobody wants to give a monthly tribute to a total stranger, nor does the woman really want to feel she "has" to continue to see someone she doesn't like just because he paid her, nor does she want a bad reputation, so PPM is far more common.

In addition, many (probably more of the men) don't want to be exclusive to just one woman.

Plus the rates most of them want for monthly are rather high. (When you join, don't put "moderate" put "minimal" or "negotiable", but it makes little difference I think).

In my first 2 days I have been inundated with contacts, many of them look nice and I'd like to meet them.

Where it beats escorting is for those who want longer punts and overnights. The rate will be a lot less than with the typical escort.
It is also good when you want to build up more with the woman than just sex.

I am still finding my way, and any particulars about my experience and individuals will only go into the seekingarrangement.com topic.

[Mr_Shins]

What I am liking in what I see on SA is that the women seem to be more normal. They dress normally. They may be students or have normal jobs. They're looking for action for money but don't sit all day in a property waiting for the call as one after another turn up.

A handful that post near-naked photos just get blocked by myself early on if they bother messaging.

It could improve in having a way to filter those who have "favorited" you. (Age, location, etc).

[hungrypunt]

3 or so years ago it was like pulling teeth getting PPM EVERYONE wanted monthlies,  but now its almost the norm.

[Mr_Shins]

Because most of the women worked out they'd never fulfill their dream there so they may as well make some money and meet more people, I guess.

Anyway, it's best for punters if we have 2 topics, one to discuss the site in general (this one) and one for those who are members there to discuss / warn about other members.
This site can help punters decide if they want to join there in the first place.

Still, the premium rate membership for 1 month is only about £69 which, compared to the cost of punting, isn't that much so it's worth a try I guess. The big losses would come if you paid the members there an amount that wasn't worth it (or got scammed).

[TPreston]

Because most of the women worked out they'd never fulfill their dream there so they may as well make some money and meet more people, I guess.

Anyway, it's best for punters if we have 2 topics, one to discuss the site in general (this one) and one for those who are members there to discuss / warn about other members.
This site can help punters decide if they want to join there in the first place.

Still, the premium rate membership for 1 month is only about £69 which, compared to the cost of punting, isn't that much so it's worth a try I guess. The big losses would come if you paid the members there an amount that wasn't worth it (or got scammed).

Even a general thread like this in the open as such is a risk IMO - as it'll increase the likelyhood of girls trying to gain access to the main thread and potential outtings.

I think the wiki gives a decent outline for those that are interested enough. If the shared info there doesn't make you curious enough to risk of a months membership then SA isn't for you. £70 is a bit pricey but it does mean SA is managable- if the months subs where say a tenner the site would be awash with the same lads who swarm on girls on fabswingers and pof etc.

Maybe if a few of us collectively strung together some advice for newbies as a sticky on the first page of the mega thread as well to save a bit of the repetition on the main thread.

[hungrypunt]

agreed TP, I can see this thread becoming a sidetrack of the main thread, and yes the added risks.

[Beanhead]

Great thread. Thanks for all the advice.

Just out of curiosity, what sort of realistic budget do you need for SA as opposed to AW?

[TPreston]

Great thread. Thanks for all the advice.

Just out of curiosity, what sort of realistic budget do you need for SA as opposed to AW?

How longs a piece of string. Depends on the hotels, food and allowances you negociate.

You'll get lots of bites for 3 meets a month at £700 per month say up North but that is unlikely to get the attention of the 9s and 10s on there. In London and more affluent areas you'll have higher PPM/allowance expectations.

So take into account the hotel costs as well as paying for food and drink. Say one meet up a week at a £200 pay per meet and then another £150 for other costs depending on quality of hotel and what else you spend. If you stay overnight you'll be sorting food for you both so another £30-50 on deliveroo/just eat.

But you can easily spend much more - one poster on the thread has spent about £30k over the last year if I remember correctly. I'm quite active and I spend about a grand a month for a meet a week all in all.

There are some bargains to be had but they're diamonds in the rough and takes time to weasel these out.

[puntingpumping1920]

Great thread. Thanks for all the advice.

Just out of curiosity, what sort of realistic budget do you need for SA as opposed to AW?

 
It’s about negotiation.   

Asking a punter for a realistic budget may not be pratical for you

Create a budget fairly well defined with no intention of compromising your financial future or wellbeing is the key

[jasonbourne]

interesting, thanks for this info. seems SA might be the best way to meet the type that is now a unicorn on AW/agency books: the genuine british girl who just wants to make extra cash and (maybe) enjoy meeting people. so many jaded EE s out there.

[itk]

 - Monthly tribute, for which she becomes your very own sugar-babe.
 

If you believe that you’re deluded mate. She’ll proably have another 2 or 3 on the go.

[Flunt]

The pros and cons of SA, that covers a high percentage of the women on the site.

I rejoin occasionally, so it's not all bad. For the cost of a half hour punt I can have a months worth of entertainment, even without meeting anyone. The last time I was a paid up member was about six months ago:

1. I had a fun conversation with one and when it came to the subject of money she wanted pro$$ie rates, she let me down the first time (rag week?), when we resumed the conversation she was pissy about £200 for two hours. She said she was giving it away, I told her to keep it.

2. Short and sweet conversation, all set for a Saturday night, she just needed £50 for the babysitter before she left, apparently I was the first to refuse to send her the money?

3. Some ex-prossie with a very dusty phone lured me in, £250 for an overnight... I would have had more fun from a 15 minute quickie with a Rom B&S.

4. A young woman with very flattering photos, turned up slightly larger than I imagined and had a good night. The second meeting she stuffed herself with prawn crackers and made herself ill, she still took the money.

5. Agreed a night at mine with a very attractive black woman, the last minute she decides she's not comfortable with staying at mine, cancelled.

6. Went out for a drink with another black beauty, had a good time and met up again another evening for £150. We were both pleased with the outcome but she was unavailable the following week because it was her 21st. Stayed in touch for another couple of weeks but then nothing.

As others have said, SA is time consuming, it can get expensive very quickly and there is no certainty with anything. I enjoyed a few overnight punts from AW reverse bookings for between £350-400 where reviews are available and services listed, not something available with SBs.

Overall SA is a matter of personal circumstances, personality of individuals and cash. There is the time involved in the pursuit but also finding the time to arrange a meeting, my weekdays are fairly hectic which means I can only arrange an extended meeting on a Saturday night. Being the gentleman that I am, I don't string along plans b and c, so, when plan a lets me down that's a quarter of my month fucked, which is not as bad as when I first started, I would have a hotel booked in some strange city. I spent nights alone in Leeds, Sheffield and London as well as a day room in Manchester, the best part of £500 done for nothing!

As for the actual SA thread, I haven't read it for a couple of years, the successes and sexual prowess of my peers was too damaging to my ego.

[Helloyou75001]

Wow it sounds good but mostly out of my budget.

I tend to do 30min pump and dump in AW at £50 per session. Any chance I could have anything similar with SA?

[revoltra]

Wow it sounds good but mostly out of my budget.

I tend to do 30min pump and dump in AW at £50 per session. Any chance I could have anything similar with SA?

Stick with prossie if you just want pump and dump. SB are much more demanding not just money but also time and effort

[Helloyou75001]

I wouldn't prefer a bit of 'romance' to be honest. I just have a limited budget. I m ok to spend a bit of time as long as it worth it

[ik8133]

Wow it sounds good but mostly out of my budget.

I tend to do 30min pump and dump in AW at £50 per session. Any chance I could have anything similar with SA?

You might do, there are no set down prices and you might get it for free.  I was in touch with a 35 year old who said she had a fetish for an older guy, I'm 58, was a bit kinky she didn't want paid and was even going halfs with the hotel. Unfortunately never got round to a meet as I was quite a bit from her and other things got in the way.  I'm not on SA anymore, but still in contact with a 24 year old Milf, whom I've met for coffee with a proper meeting still to happen. It's a bit of a waiting game which I am hoping is worth the wait.

[TPreston]

Wow it sounds good but mostly out of my budget.

I tend to do 30min pump and dump in AW at £50 per session. Any chance I could have anything similar with SA?

Might get lucky but it'll be rare. and the man hours you'd have to put in to find that gem just wouldnt be worth it.

Most girls on there can't accommodate so you're spending at least £50 on a hotel, often more for the better lookers as they won't be enamoured of the idea of a few hours in a Britannica.

Even if you blag the rare girl that's not about cash, you're still dumping the best part of £100-150 on a date with food, drink, hotel and travel costs. And then time put in for that gem can be pathetic.

Add on an allowance and it can be an expensive very hobby.

[Helloyou75001]

Aaah... Ok. I m too broke to afford SA it seems 

[PatMacGroin]

Interesting thread. Been wondering about SA for a while. Thanks for all the info guys.

One question occurs to me though...

If most of the girls on SA hate to sound like WG's does that mean you don't agree services in advance of actually meeting up?

What I'm picturing from your descriptions is something a bit more like an adult dating service where both sides are being direct about the costs involved in "dating". Lots of back and forth conversations where you both discuss what you like, building up into more explicit detail. At some point the "allowance" or "tribute" is agreed, plus any additional logistical expenses.
 
At any point do the girls give you a straight out confirmation of "oh yes, I love to give sloppy blow jobs and gobble up all you cum then get fucked in the arse"? Or do you end up having to cross your fingers and just hope they are a filthy goer, rather than "offend" them by talking to them like a whore when you try to confirm details of what they'll do in the bedroom?

Seems to me much of the time you'll be taking a bigger chance of disappointment than booking a Rom with stunning model quality pictures but 0 feedback.

[TPreston]

Interesting thread. Been wondering about SA for a while. Thanks for all the info guys.

One question occurs to me though...

If most of the girls on SA hate to sound like WG's does that mean you don't agree services in advance of actually meeting up?

What I'm picturing from your descriptions is something a bit more like an adult dating service where both sides are being direct about the costs involved in "dating". Lots of back and forth conversations where you both discuss what you like, building up into more explicit detail. At some point the "allowance" or "tribute" is agreed, plus any additional logistical expenses.
 
At any point do the girls give you a straight out confirmation of "oh yes, I love to give sloppy blow jobs and gobble up all you cum then get fucked in the arse"? Or do you end up having to cross your fingers and just hope they are a filthy goer, rather than "offend" them by talking to them like a whore when you try to confirm details of what they'll do in the bedroom?

Seems to me much of the time you'll be taking a bigger chance of disappointment than booking a Rom with stunning model quality pictures but 0 feedback.

It depends on the girl. You might get some replies being blunt about the services you want, but I've found a softly softly appproach works better for me.

As a general rule during the small talk if you talk sex they'll talk money which takes the more datey element out of things, which is the illusion many of us like.

Allowances and payments are normally discussed proir and agreed before you meet

[hungrypunt]

It depends on the girl. You might get some replies being blunt about the services you want, but I've found a softly softly appproach works better for me.

As a general rule during the small talk if you talk sex they'll talk money which takes the more datey element out of things, which is the illusion many of us like.

Allowances and payments are normally discussed proir and agreed before you meet

(softly softly TP...I mean cmon man)  I wouldnt like to see your full on ha ha.

And Ive found the "all I want to do is use all your holes" "rope" "toys" etc etc, works for me. I used to get lots of replies like "thank god, someone who gets to the point" etc etc. I dont all out come over too full on and Im certainly not rude or abusive, but tell them Im up for exploring all the fun BOTH of us want, safely, trustingly and benefit to both parties. I actually enjoy the dinner company (mostly) and trips away etc/overnights etc, but they all know why we are here. Well all except the "weirdos" my SBs words to me when she told me about this "freaking weirdo" who she binned after a few meets because "all he wanted to do when we met was brush and stroke my hair"  . This was after she throated my cock, been tied spanked and and had it in her arse, boy Im glad he was the weirdo.. Funny old world Saint
But yes there are a vast variety of people on there and whats good for one isn't always good for another.

[PatMacGroin]

(softly softly TP...I mean cmon man)  I wouldnt like to see your full on ha ha.

And Ive found the "all I want to do is use all your holes" "rope" "toys" etc etc, works for me. I used to get lots of replies like "thank god, someone who gets to the point" etc etc. I dont all out come over too full on and Im certainly not rude or abusive, but tell them Im up for exploring all the fun BOTH of us want, safely, trustingly and benefit to both parties. I actually enjoy the dinner company (mostly) and trips away etc/overnights etc, but they all know why we are here. Well all except the "weirdos" my SBs words to me when she told me about this "freaking weirdo" who she binned after a few meets because "all he wanted to do when we met was brush and stroke my hair"  . This was after she throated my cock, been tied spanked and and had it in her arse, boy Im glad he was the weirdo.. Funny old world Saint
But yes there are a vast variety of people on there and whats good for one isn't always good for another.

 

Reminds me of a guy I knew years ago. We'd all be talking about some bird or other, the usual "smashing arse", "great tis" etc. He's nearly always say something along likes of "very glossy hair" 

Most of us thought he was probably a closet gay.

[Brolls]

Hey guys can someone tell me if there's a way to pay for a 1 month SA anonymously?

Like can anyone advise on a prepaid debit card that I can buy to pay for the membership.

Or any other anonymous ways to pay for it!

Thanks

[rrrr]

Hey guys can someone tell me if there's a way to pay for a 1 month SA anonymously?

Like can anyone advise on a prepaid debit card that I can buy to pay for the membership.

Or any other anonymous ways to pay for it!

Thanks

Probably best to pay via paypal.  Set up a dummy paypal account funded from your main one and use that.

[Brolls]

Probably best to pay via paypal.  Set up a dummy paypal account funded from your main one and use that.

I thought of this but I read the PayPal can detect fake names and can ban you!

[revoltra]

I thought of this but I read the PayPal can detect fake names and can ban you!

They are making it pain in the ass to make payment if you register a new account under an assumed name and has no credit card or bank account associated with it.

[itk]

Wow it sounds good but mostly out of my budget.

I tend to do 30min pump and dump in AW at £50 per session. Any chance I could have anything similar with SA?

You could find one that doesn’t want payment, just the odd gift or even one that just wants fucking. The trouble is, although I found some like that it took hours and hours and texting and organising a meet. Definitely worth it but very time consuming.

[Brolls]

They are making it pain in the ass to make payment if you register a new account under an assumed name and has no credit card or bank account associated with it.

Are you speaking from experience?

Isn't there a reliable prepaid debit card that can be used?

[TPreston]

You could find one that doesn’t want payment, just the odd gift or even one that just wants fucking. The trouble is, although I found some like that it took hours and hours and texting and organising a meet. Definitely worth it but very time consuming.

Even then though you're still talking at least £100 a meet - if she's fine with an budget ibis/village hotel or a day room as they'll rarely host. You'll be paying for food/drink and her taxi home. Then like you say you'll invest hours finding that gem (and while she'll be better looking than a fabswingers shag, she won't be a worldy) and even then she could well just flake on you at the last minute with no explaination.

The rewards are there but serious man hours needed and not cheap.

[hungrypunt]

I thought of this but I read the PayPal can detect fake names and can ban you!

Paypal allows slight name changes to your original account, so if your name is only a few letters its fine

[revoltra]

Are you speaking from experience?

Isn't there a reliable prepaid debit card that can be used?

Yeah I tried this trick recently. Set up a second Paypal account with my punting name, transfer money from my real paypal account. And then i found out that i cannot transfer that money to anyone else other than back to the account where it came from. Even then, it limited to only £30 a day!

Maybe if I keep the punting paypal account a bit longer and use it to pay for some other stuff, it would have been ok? But yeah it was pain in the ass so I gave up once I transferred all the money back to my real account

[Brolls]

Yeah I tried this trick recently. Set up a second Paypal account with my punting name, transfer money from my real paypal account. And then i found out that i cannot transfer that money to anyone else other than back to the account where it came from. Even then, it limited to only £30 a day!

Maybe if I keep the punting paypal account a bit longer and use it to pay for some other stuff, it would have been ok? But yeah it was pain in the ass so I gave up once I transferred all the money back to my real account

So PayPal looks like a dead end for paying anonymously!

Any ideas of any prepaid debit cards that will work with SA?

[The Bandit 5342]

I used to sometimes look at the profiles of the attractive ladies at the top of the page but then someone of great stature banned me because my email address was not deemed genuine enough for me to continue.

Well I am certainly NOT going to pay for access to what are in effect adverts so I wonder quite what the point of these pictures is, or how many have given in and signed up - paid up?

[Macduff303]

I am a user of the SeekingArrangement site, I have a premium account - but I don't get access to the thread on this site, any idea why?

[martini2429]

I am a user of the SeekingArrangement site, I have a premium account - but I don't get access to the thread on this site, any idea why?

Contact Admin

 

[Spencer Fobby]

Two weeks into being a SA member and I have had three hook ups - one overnight, two that were 4 hrs in the bedroom. All three better looking than 90% of the girls I’ve booked on AW. The cost - way less per hour... (between £150-£300 plus a couple of drinks and the hotels).
The sex - much more genuine and enthusiastic - and way kinkier than most WGs. For example arse to mouth with each girl was par for the course. One said “you can do whatever you want to me, daddy” so I took her to the shower and pissed in her mouth. She hadn’t done it before, but she’ll be doing it again
For me it’s a game changer. I like the hunt, the chat up via txt and then in the pub before we fuck - but I may be just at that beginner’s luck phase. 

[Mikil]

I've been a member on sa for around a year and have had sex with 11 girls. 4 of them did not ask for money!! Just a drink or two and then with the business. 3 of them had their own place so I saved cash on hotels.the other  7 girls I've had I've not paid a dime of £100 per meet. And the average meet has been 2-3 hours with most things I've wanted. For me it's been worth while.

[Kev40ish]

I've been a member on sa for around a year and have had sex with 11 girls. 4 of them did not ask for money!! Just a drink or two and then with the business. 3 of them had their own place so I saved cash on hotels.the other  7 girls I've had I've not paid a dime of £100 per meet. And the average meet has been 2-3 hours with most things I've wanted. For me it's been worth while.

I will put a bit of balance..

There are a lot of time wasters and scammers, it takes a lot of time there are not the number of freebies out there. It is not cheap and don’t believe everything that your told, as I believe there is a lot of dreamers on there.

[Spencer Fobby]

Also, beware the reverse of EAS.... the girl may we’ll like you more than you want her to.... and I would say that it takes a lot of messaging lots of likely options and quite a lot of time wasting.
But still, it’s working for me.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

Also, beware the reverse of EAS.... the girl may we’ll like you more than you want her to.... and I would say that it takes a lot of messaging lots of likely options and quite a lot of time wasting.
But still, it’s working for me.

Being the heartless bastard that I am I turned reverse EAS to my advantage and used her for regular free sex before blocking her when she became far too clingy.

My logic is that women use guys to get what they want so I’m doing the same.

SA has been an absolute delight for me.

[Brolls]

Two weeks into being a SA member and I have had three hook ups - one overnight, two that were 4 hrs in the bedroom. All three better looking than 90% of the girls I’ve booked on AW. The cost - way less per hour... (between £150-£300 plus a couple of drinks and the hotels).
The sex - much more genuine and enthusiastic - and way kinkier than most WGs. For example arse to mouth with each girl was par for the course. One said “you can do whatever you want to me, daddy” so I took her to the shower and pissed in her mouth. She hadn’t done it before, but she’ll be doing it again
For me it’s a game changer. I like the hunt, the chat up via txt and then in the pub before we fuck - but I may be just at that beginner’s luck phase.

What exactly do you say in your messages?

How much were you paying the girls without hotel costs?

Where you based?

[Brolls]

I've been a member on sa for around a year and have had sex with 11 girls. 4 of them did not ask for money!! Just a drink or two and then with the business. 3 of them had their own place so I saved cash on hotels.the other  7 girls I've had I've not paid a dime of £100 per meet. And the average meet has been 2-3 hours with most things I've wanted. For me it's been worth while.

You payed the other 7 £100 per meet?

[LLPunting]

What exactly do you say in your messages?

How much were you paying the girls without hotel costs?

Where you based?

Answers only inside the SA thread not for open discussion.

[Brolls]

I'm not in that thread though.

[fishermen]

I know there is the ongoing thread on SA but I’m not a member yet so don’t have access but I just wondered has anyone used the app as I see you can register for a 7 day trial for 22 quid using a redeem code so don’t need to give out credit card details which does appeal.

Problem with apps is half the time they don’t work so I don’t want to lose 20 quid if it then crashes and I have to uninstall as presumably I lose the 20quid.

Anyone used the app and if so is it reasonably reliable?

AW is virtually useless now for English girls and I’m sure SA is where the english girls are all resident. I hope I’ve not left it too late and that Romanians and Eastern Europeans have flooded there as well.

Racist

[datwabbit]

Racist

Are you missing a lol? There's nothing wrong with his post.