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Author Topic: Is the ''I only meet clients with AW feedback'' phase costing pro$$ies money?  (Read 2756 times)

Offline Bangers and Gash

Annoyingly, it seems to be a growing trend over the past year or so that more and more pro$$ies are wanting feedback or validification from other pro$$ies before accepting a booking.

Now then, I reckon the majority of guys who use AW don't even have an account, let alone have feedback or even use the booking system for that matter. Many guys punt under the radar, and the only trail they'll want to leave behind is a line of fresh cum across a pro$$ies tits.

So surely this must be putting a dent in their drug/shoe/botox fund as punters will go elsewhere without the hoop jumping. It's a buyers market, so the paying customer should be setting the terms, not the seller.

When profits fall, common sense might return.  :unknown:

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Offline smiths

Annoyingly, it seems to be a growing trend over the past year or so that more and more pro$$ies are wanting feedback or validification from other pro$$ies before accepting a booking.

Now then, I reckon the majority of guys who use AW don't even have an account, let alone have feedback or even use the booking system for that matter. Many guys punt under the radar, and the only trail they'll want to leave behind is a line of fresh cum across a pro$$ies tits.

So surely this must be putting a dent in their drug/shoe/botox fund as punters will go elsewhere without the hoop jumping. It's a buyers market, so the paying customer should be setting the terms, not the seller.

When profits fall, common sense might return.  :unknown:

 :hi:

I imagine forum darlings aren't seeing any slowdown in punters prepared to jump through their hoops. The thing is some punters especially the fluffy white knights will do anything the WG says. The fact they are the service buyer goes out the window with these types. And to some they aren't punting anyway, its a date to them, saddos. :thumbsdown:

Offline Scotpunter

If there are girls that are not getting business over it, then they are the only ones losing out.

But lets be fair, we all will choose a girl with feedback over one without, so punting under the radar does nobody any favours.
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Offline Bangers and Gash

I imagine forum darlings aren't seeing any slowdown in punters prepared to jump through their hoops. The thing is some punters especially the fluffy white knights will do anything the WG says. The fact they are the service buyer goes out the window with these types. And to some they aren't punting anyway, its a date to them, saddos. :thumbsdown:

I agree, but even if you count up all the pathetic sad-fucks they alone shouldn't be enough to keep the cash flowing into Sergei's foreign bank account. Even the saddo's get bored eventually and start looking for new pro$$ies to creep & crawl over.

Offline claretandblue

Adultwork feedback is less relevant than ever I would say,lots of the darlings are seemingly now over on uke with the fluffies and are arranging their "dates" :sarcastic: that way

Offline Scotpunter

Adultwork feedback is less relevant than ever I would say,lots of the darlings are seemingly now over on uke with the fluffies and are arranging their "dates" :sarcastic: that way


What is uke?
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Offline David1970

I do not have an AW account and do not plan to get one for security reason. It's there loss, I am the one with the money not them.
Saying that girls do it for security reasons, but if feedback on girls can be fake ( as many are) then men's feedback can be fake.

Offline Bangers and Gash

Adultwork feedback is less relevant than ever I would say,lots of the darlings are seemingly now over on uke with the fluffies and are arranging their "dates" :sarcastic: that way

True, but once again, how many punters use UKE? 0.1%? ... 1%? ... 10%?

That's still a lot of custom going elsewhere.

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Offline hendrix

It probably is costing them business, but I doubt that they give a fuck as the best ones seem to be as busy as they want to be.

Also, a couple of girls who let that rule slip were done over by some scum. So that buys into the "zero fb punters are dodgy" myth - bit like the bollocks about black punters for example. The biggest lunatic I know had shitloads of feedback.

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Offline EnglishRebecca121

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i kinda get why girls do it, for some they think that by seeing members with aw feedbk only they can be safer, to be honest the only couple of times i have had issues have been from guys without an aw profile so i do get it

but there are fruitloops with aw feedback too, the worse client i ever had ( stalked me and tried to beat me up )had 11 positive aw feedbacks, adult work did the worst thing by getting rid of the notes system for us girls 
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Offline HighlyMotivated

Any WG who operates this way already has a ton of regulars and money, wouldn't worry about them too much

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It probably is costing them business, but I doubt that they give a fuck as the best ones seem to be as busy as they want to be.

Also, a couple of girls who let that rule slip were done over by some scum. So that buys into the "zero fb punters are dodgy" myth - bit like the bollocks about black punters for example. The biggest lunatic I know had shitloads of feedback.

Loads of myths and legends in punting and escorting.  If something is said often enough it becomes accepted fact.

Nobody will ever know the whole truth on anything just the nature of the game.

Offline Hertsgent

Always thought it was to ensure the punter booked through AW, then would a) be more likely to turn up, and b) likely leave feedback - seems a win win for the WG, as i would imagine there must be a higher frequency of time wasters outside AW (obviously not UKP members !)

Offline RedKettle

To answer the OPs question yes I am sure this reduces their business.

However that is not really the right question - have they as much business as they need and/or want?  If they have then this feedback rule possibly increases their safety and also reduces the number of enquiries they have to deal with.

If they want more business then they have a decision to make, do they trade what they perceive as increased safety for potentially more business?

I do not like booking via AW but I do use it sometimes.  I am not a fan of the requires AW feedback rule and will usually go elsewhere - that is my choice in the same way that they are free to make the rule. 

I have deliberately built up some feedback so that I can decide to book one of them should I wish to.   

vw

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Always thought it was to ensure the punter booked through AW, then would a) be more likely to turn up, and b) likely leave feedback - seems a win win for the WG, as i would imagine there must be a higher frequency of time wasters outside AW (obviously not UKP members !)

Not really many phone arrangers want now can come ASAP and it works.   Expect many pre arrange get cancelled I'm sure some strawberry prossie was saying 50% of pre arranged cancel on the day oj uke today.

Offline thaislave

dumb ass bitches dont realise it's them that need feedback!
I have used adultwork for over 10 years yet have zero feedback
because when im horny I call a girl,meet up and do the business
we walk away and thats it,so how am I going to get feedback ffs
what's annoying is when these girls dont even bother to put a contact number,how the fuck you expect to make money if you dont even supply a contact number,it doesnt have to be your iphone you desperately need,just buy a cheap £10 phone and let the punters book you ffs!
even more annoying is when they advertise every service going but when you get there none of them are on offer you pervert!  :unknown:

anotherjohn50

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Trouble is some blokes use Adultwork as a fantasy porn site.......they make appointments with girls.......they then send lots of messages sort of "can we do this" "can we do that" " can you wear this outfit "

then they don't  show up so basically girls get pissed off with it.

By picking guys with feedback they know they're genuine punters.

So basically those wankers spoil it for everyone else.

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Offline smiths

I agree, but even if you count up all the pathetic sad-fucks they alone shouldn't be enough to keep the cash flowing into Sergei's foreign bank account. Even the saddo's get bored eventually and start looking for new pro$$ies to creep & crawl over.

They seem to be worryingly increasing in number from my observations though. Forum darlings are as busy as they want to be I reckon. The irony is its punters that have put them in this position and often initially they didn't have such demands, they were happy to get any punters. Once established they start dictating and making demands. I have principles which I wont break for a punt, thing is some punters get cunt struck or worse and jump to WGs tunes including some on here.

Makes me laugh that some punters are proud to have good feedback on A/W, a site run by low lifes and where the FB has more holes in it than a string vest. While this thinking continues this situation of more and more WGs dictating wont change in my opinion. However, fortunately in London anyway most WGs don't try to dictate to me so plenty to choose from.

Offline smiths

Always thought it was to ensure the punter booked through AW, then would a) be more likely to turn up, and b) likely leave feedback - seems a win win for the WG, as i would imagine there must be a higher frequency of time wasters outside AW (obviously not UKP members !)

Yes well a lot of this is a win win for the WG. They get positive reviews before which they took any bookings then start with the demands. Not seeing the upside for me which is why I am holding back on positive reviews now, and that's apart from some becoming much harder to book and/or putting their prices up though most haven't asked me to pay the extra.

MrXYZ987

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I have no AW feedback, in fact only just created an account. Yet I've managed to book a few over the phone that stipulate this rule.

Clearly it's not always adhered to, presume only by those that don't give a phone number.

Offline Colston36

To answer the OPs question yes I am sure this reduces their business.

However that is not really the right question - have they as much business as they need and/or want?  If they have then this feedback rule possibly increases their safety and also reduces the number of enquiries they have to deal with.

If they want more business then they have a decision to make, do they trade what they perceive as increased safety for potentially more business?

I do not like booking via AW but I do use it sometimes.  I am not a fan of the requires AW feedback rule and will usually go elsewhere - that is my choice in the same way that they are free to make the rule. 

I have deliberately built up some feedback so that I can decide to book one of them should I wish to.

Totally agree. And what harm can it do?

Offline Silver Birch

When profits fall, common sense might return.  :unknown:

Once again, it is about supply and demand. If the wgs (who demand AW FB) aren't getting enough business from AW punters who have FB, they will adjust their screening accordingly.

When I started punting I accumulated AW feedback and there is no doubt this made it easier to get responses to emails, and subsequently bookings.

However, these days probably half my punts are arranged by phone and the question whether I have got AW feedback has never been asked. Perhaps I am lucky enough not to be choosing wgs that require it, but I think pretty much all wgs will take a phone booking if you sound ok to talk to.

As for those who don't put up a phone number, they are definitely losing a lot of potential business, but presumably they must already have as much as they want  :unknown:

Offline stevedave

adult work did the worst thing by getting rid of the notes system for us girls

I get what you're saying, but the notes system from a punters point of view sounded like a dystopian nightmare.

One of the many reasons I try to avoid booking through AW wherever possible.

cockneybstrd

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I think for some punters getting a/w feedback or jumping through hoops to get booking or even have to crawl on broken glass to get booking is what they enjoy as much as the punting itself.

And Rebecca while I can see why you might like the notes system it was abused. I mean look at some of the female members who have been repeatedly banned could leave a note on your account and other prossies wouldn't know if it was left by mentally ill vindictive

Offline Turtle Z

but there are fruitloops with aw feedback too, the worse client i ever had ( stalked me and tried to beat me up )had 11 positive aw feedbacks, adult work did the worst thing by getting rid of the notes system for us girls

Did they? And what about the fruit loop WG's who abused the notes system. I had a twat leave notes that I was dangerous out of vindictive spite because I left her a negative review. Oh, yes, then I had another girl on AW stalk me and was gonna leave notes to warn other punters on AW but guess what, no facility for punters to do that on AW. I half take your point Rebecca but a hidden notes system is not the way to deal with these issues.

Offline MrMatrix

If there are girls that are not getting business over it, then they are the only ones losing out.

But lets be fair, we all will choose a girl with feedback over one without, so punting under the radar does nobody any favours.

FB doesn't preclude me from TOFTT, so I've had my share of bad punts, but I always report back here, so that the next client is better informed.But that's why UKP is so important, we get at the truth of the matter. :hi:

Offline george r

I had quite a lot of feedback but lost it when I didn't log on for ages then could not use my account again  :dash:

raylondoner

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Pisses me off to see girls say this when don't leave FB themselves! Doesn't actually affect me though as only see regs.  :cool:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Any WG who operates this way already has a ton of regulars and money, wouldn't worry about them too much

Exactly.     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I know a Dominatrix who insists on a deposit from new clients --------------- no deposit, no booking, she is not bothered because she has been established many years.