Does Sex Addiction Really Exist??

[peter purves]

In June, the World Health Organization officially recognised what it calls Compulsive Sexual Behaviour Disorder in its international classification of diseases. Therapists I've spoken to say that even though this falls short of classifying the condition as an addiction, it may encourage the UK government to provide counselling services on the NHS.

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The term 'sex addiction' is bandied about the news and on therapy couches. But can you really be addicted to sex in the same way a smoker is addicted to nicotine or is it just a good excuse for bad behaviour? And if it is a disease, can it be cured through treatment? What exactly happens in a sex clinic?
With exclusive access to the Laurel Centre, one of the UK's leading sex addiction treatment centres, journalist Sangita Myska meets the patients, their partners, and the therapists attempting to cure them.

Producer: Sarah Shebbeare

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[JamesKW]

Its an addiction if you are spending more than you can afford and going into debt.Its an addiction if you spend all your work hours thinking about it,it effects your work and you run the risk of being sacked.

Its an addiction if you act inappropriately at work and also run the risk of being sacked.

[Stevensmiles]

God that’s a good question Peter P.

It would be so easy to laugh at the idea of it but the reality is pretty complicated.
I’m guessing there are all sorts of underlying reasons why someone would be classed as being addicted to sex.

A good friend of mine broke up with her husband (going back a few years)
When she and her mates would be out on a girls evening. They would chat sex..... as girls do.
Why don’t us blokes talk about sex, can’t understand it really 

Anyway....... her mates all thought how lucky she was. A hubby/bf who fucked her every night. She even joked about it herself.

But after a few years and children later. It remained a constant.
A demanding husband who insisted on sex and got annoyed if she said no.

I mean let’s face it. Could any of us truthfully say we want it all the time. Could we do it all the time.
Even in my prime I never fancied it every day/night.
There was always something else happening, football, drinking, bloody work nackering me.

We all have different sexual urges surely and I guess needs is a good way to describe it.

But I’m also guessing sexual addiction can only really be placed upon someone if it is affecting theirs or other people close to them. As has been said, financial strains (as in gambling addiction)
If your a gambling addict but you have so much money you could never possibly run out. Would it still be called an addiction.
I guess so.


So if two people were together and they both were sexually addicted. Would they still be classed as addicts........or simply lucky they found each other. 

[peter.witless]

My little brother was quite the player in his teens and early twenties. He is six years younger than me and lived with me when he was still at school/uni. He would almost always bring a different girl home to spend the night and the noise was quite annoying.

Enough of the background.

At the not-so-tender age of 19 he met an older woman who just couldn't get enough of him. He was ecstatic, finally a girl who actually wanted sex as much as he did ... it lasted 3 days ...
She left early in the morning on the third day in tears and I asked him why ... she was crying because he just couldn't get it up anymore! 

Evidently for the 3 days & nights (that he'd skipped uni!) they'd just been at it non-stop, sleep eat sex, rinse, repeat ... he was so exhausted he slept for more than 20 hours. Now he swears if he ever meets a woman like her again he'll run for miles.

There is a HUGE difference between a healthy sexual appetite and sexual addiction.

[peter purves]

Its an addiction if you are spending more than you can afford and going into debt.Its an addiction if you spend all your work hours thinking about it,it effects your work and you run the risk of being sacked.

Its an addiction if you act inappropriately at work and also run the risk of being sacked.

I think the term 'addiction' is based on the medical model ie some sort of disease that affects the body like cancer, tuberculosis etc. With sex addiction the medical model cannot find a scientific disease apart from 'lust' which is the aietology (cause) of sex addiction 

Nonetheless, I do understand what you are trying to say especially when the phenomena can wrecks lives 

[Stevensmiles]

I bet the term sexual addiction started in America.

Those movie stars caught cheating.

Poor guy needs therapy.

[peter purves]

I bet the term sexual addiction started in America.

Looks as if you are correct 

Who Is The Real Father of Sex Addiction?
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[Stevensmiles]

OMFG.    There are now scholars of sex addiction.

I shall become one. Is there an open university course for it.

As an aside.
I am positive I saw a SP once who advertised herself as a sex therapist.

[prophethezikah]

no such thing from an evolutionary standpoint. Sex addicts will have more offspring.

[datwabbit]

There's a difference between prioritizing and addiction.

If you're spending on escorts to the extent that other spending is being delayed or put onto credit which you cannot repay, then I'd say you're addicted because you don't have a balance.

More importantly, how do you feel the next day after a punt. If you're no longer happy about your experience and want another punt to get the feel-good of the last one, then your addicted.

[Autopunter]

"Does Sex Addiction Really Exist??"

No.

[Horizontal pleasures]

still doin' it regularly at 76 years old, I am an addict. I know I am a sex addict. I won £25 at the Lottery today which I hardly ever enter and of course it is there to help my next punt.

[mike63]

I've got to know a fair bit about addiction over the years, and I think there is an argument that sex addiction exists. In most addictive behaviour people keep repeating an action, or taking a substance, to get some effect. It alters the state of the brain in one way or another, and sex is powerful enough to do that. I suffered quite badly from stress some years ago, and punted more as a consequence-you forget everything else while doing it. Drinking a bottle of scotch a day has the same effect, as does heroin I understand.

[freeze44]

I've got to know a fair bit about addiction over the years, and I think there is an argument that sex addiction exists. In most addictive behaviour people keep repeating an action, or taking a substance, to get some effect. It alters the state of the brain in one way or another, and sex is powerful enough to do that. I suffered quite badly from stress some years ago, and punted more as a consequence-you forget everything else while doing it. Drinking a bottle of scotch a day has the same effect, as does heroin I understand.

Think that sums it up well. You can be addicted to lots of things and it's a mask for an underlying issue so if sex takes you away from the issue and fills a need then it's your drug of choice.

[cultvoid]

Bad bad men wanting sex all the time. Must be a disease. 

I too have a terrible disease, been to the gp today and I'm booked in for some counselling on the NHS. It's a terrible battle, but one day I will defeat my breathing addiction. It's a compulsion, I literally spend every hour, waking AND asleep sucking in air...

[Trinculo]

I think punting may become an addiction for some, as does alcohol, but for most it's simply a way of getting some kind of fantasy sexual experience you find it hard or impossible to get in civvie life because the wife/g.f or whatever doesn't do oral or anal or whatever. I liken punting to hiring a top of the range BMW for a day, and enjoying the driving experience, then you have to give it back and go back to your clapped out Ford Fiesta.

[peter.witless]

... and go back to your clapped out Ford Fiesta.

You poor man! Mine's a clapped out E-Type Jaguar. 

Still clapped out, tho' 

[Bobbyplastic]

Folks actually forget we are animals programmed to reproduce by fucking. Its not addiction, it's biology.

[tynetunnel]

Folks actually forget we are animals programmed to reproduce by fucking. Its not addiction, it's biology.

Which is exactly what I’ll be telling Mrs T if she ever finds out about my hobby 

[kingmg]

Looks as if you are correct 

Who Is The Real Father of Sex Addiction?
A fascinating new book now reveals a dark history for sex addiction

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Defo Charlie sheen #winning

[peter purves]

Folks actually forget we are animals programmed to reproduce by fucking. Its not addiction, it's biology.

This is somewhat reminiscent of Freud who suggested that it is civilisation that prevents us from living our  sexual lives as the other animals do (here I am thinking of primates), which if true of course is very worrying? 

[winkywanky]

I think the term sex addiction is usually used by people (mainly men, it has to be said) who are trying to excuse their bad behaviour.

If you've had 3 wanks on the trot and are still horny, then I might entertain the existence of such a 'malady'.

[Ali Katt]

I'm honestly not sure, but is it fair to assume most people on here are more sexual and have had more sexual partners than most people.

[winkywanky]

I absolutely agree, but the term 'addiction' suggests something which an individual has no rational control over. I think in terms of sex that must be very rare, if it exists at all.

Having a high sex drive for example is different from saying you have no control over what you're doing, and therefore you must be suffering from some kind of medical condition. Example: Charlie Sheen shoves a load of charlie up his hooter and has many nights of wild abandon with multiple women. Is it because he's ill, or is it because he's famous and got more money than he knows what to do with, and he's in love with his cock?   

[Hed Master]

Yes it exists but it's not usually the sex act thats the thing, more the anticipation and build up and other stuff surrounding it thats the addictive buzz.

[freeze44]

Folks actually forget we are animals programmed to reproduce by fucking. Its not addiction, it's biology.

And we need to eat to live but some people over do it!

So if you eat 15 pizzas a day your a food addict and fat lump...if you shag or wank 5 times a day then you'r a sex addict and got a very red cock!

[Ali Katt]

I absolutely agree, but the term 'addiction' suggests something which an individual has no rational control over. I think in terms of sex that must be very rare, if it exists at all.

Having a high sex drive for example is different from saying you have no control over what you're doing, and therefore you must be suffering from some kind of medical condition. Example: Charlie Sheen shoves a load of charlie up his hooter and has many nights of wild abandon with multiple women. Is it because he's ill, or is it because he's famous and got more money than he knows what to do with, and he's in love with his cock?   

I've got to agree there is a difference between high sex drive and addiction.

[shagmore]

Its like anything really, you get a buzz form it, so you do it again, the buzz is still there. you keep doing it, then it becomes very hard to stop doing it.

I have found that with masturbating and fucking. I can not get enough pussy. If I could I would fuck all morning, noon and night. I just love to have sex - is it an addiction, no, because there are times when you can't get a fuck, but wanking on the other hand you can do whenever you want (as long in private), In order to stop myself from running up mega bills for paying for WGs, when the urge is upon me, which is very frequent, I will have a tug and curb the desire to make contact with a WG. Doesn't stop me from then looking at porn or my HL on AW

[mancguy0161]

Its like anything really, you get a buzz form it, so you do it again, the buzz is still there. you keep doing it, then it becomes very hard to stop doing it.

I have found that with masturbating and fucking. I can not get enough pussy. If I could I would fuck all morning, noon and night. I just love to have sex - is it an addiction, no, because there are times when you can't get a fuck, but wanking on the other hand you can do whenever you want (as long in private), In order to stop myself from running up mega bills for paying for WGs, when the urge is upon me, which is very frequent, I will have a tug and curb the desire to make contact with a WG. Doesn't stop me from then looking at porn or my HL on AW

+1
I think the addition element can probably stem from something deeper but I'm no expert!

[Ali Katt]

Its like anything really, you get a buzz form it, so you do it again, the buzz is still there. you keep doing it, then it becomes very hard to stop doing it.

I have found that with masturbating and fucking. I can not get enough pussy. If I could I would fuck all morning, noon and night. I just love to have sex - is it an addiction, no, because there are times when you can't get a fuck, but wanking on the other hand you can do whenever you want (as long in private), In order to stop myself from running up mega bills for paying for WGs, when the urge is upon me, which is very frequent, I will have a tug and curb the desire to make contact with a WG. Doesn't stop me from then looking at porn or my HL on AW

I think it does feel like filling an unfillable void sometimes.

[A Decent Fist]

I'm with the mighty Peter Hitchens on this. What we call addiction is not a disease. It is a weakness of character or a way of escaping difficult circumstances. Its various manifestations may or may not have a hereditary component but that does not make it a disease any more than being just as stupid as your dad does. Stiffen your own backbone or get out of the bad situation and it is within your power to escape the addiction.

For example, every time I start drinking alcohol I want to continue ad infinitum, but apart from the odd lapse during my youth I never have.

Similarly, I could easily let my liking for sex with escorts spin out of control, and at one point while I was still married it did. It took a few years to pay off the multiple credit cards. Now I keep the cost to what I can afford without going into debt.

I recommend this essay by Mr Hitchens, called The Fantasy of Addiction. Even if you think he's a far-right nutter (and his opinions are far less predictable than that), he writes like an angel:

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[Ali Katt]

I'm with the mighty Peter Hitchens on this. What we call addiction is not a disease. It is a weakness of character or a way of escaping difficult circumstances. Its various manifestations may or may not have a hereditary component but that does not make it a disease any more than being just as stupid as your dad does. Stiffen your own backbone or get out of the bad situation and it is within your power to escape the addiction.

For example, every time I start drinking alcohol I want to continue ad infinitum, but apart from the odd lapse during my youth I never have.

Similarly, I could easily let my liking for sex with escorts spin out of control, and at one point while I was still married it did. It took a few years to pay off the multiple credit cards. Now I keep the cost to what I can afford without going into debt.

I recommend this essay by Mr Hitchens, called The Fantasy of Addiction. Even if you think he's a far-right nutter (and his opinions are far less predictable than that), he writes like an angel:

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Only thick cunts think that, at best he is right of centre with conservative values.

[A Decent Fist]

At best he is right of centre with conservative values

Me too, chum. Lefties and Liberals who haven't begun to grow out of it by the age of 30 are the thick cunts in my book. And, like Peter, I speak as a long-ago Leftie.

[Ali Katt]

Me too, chum. Lefties and Liberals who haven't begun to grow out of it by the age of 30 are the thick cunts in my book. And, like Peter, I speak as a long-ago Leftie.

You're in good company, not just myself, but others as well. I used to buy The Guardian and Observer FFS.

[freeze44]

You're in good company, not just myself, but others as well. I used to buy The Guardian and Observer FFS.

Addicted to slapping each other on the back then? 

So hitchen is to be believed because he writes for the daily mail? Christ on a bike! All he did in that article is suggest it's a choice to abuse something and can be simply given up.

Easy to say if got a comfortable and well paid job and to keep that, he needs to keep putting out 'controversial' stuff. Bit of an agenda don't you think?

Why did George Best kill himself by drinking then? Much easier ways to die if that's what he wanted to do and he knew the end point but carried on.

And what choice does someone who was abused as kid have?

Easy answers like those presented by hitchin achieve nothing.

[TailSeeker]

I don't think sex addiction is a thing, behaviours around it can certainly be, but the brains of so called "sex addicts" light up no differently from others when in fMRIs.

It's just now that we're demonsing high sex drives. And certainly with the generation I'm growing up with, you should expect your partner to always meet it, if not, you're incompatible, or you're an addict.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying sex, and enjoying a lot of sex, the problem only comes if you're letting it impact your work and social life. If so, then you just have poor self control. Humans have been about for ages without sex being an addiction, it's just part of how we're wired.

It's similar to food addition, most who claim it, aren't actually addicted to eating, they either have a wire crossed that means they don't know when they're full, or they use it as a coping mechanism for another issue.

[peter purves]

I don't think sex addiction is a thing, behaviours around it can certainly be, but the brains of so called "sex addicts" light up no differently from others when in fMRIs.

It's just now that we're demonsing high sex drives. And certainly with the generation I'm growing up with, you should expect your partner to always meet it, if not, you're incompatible, or you're an addict.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying sex, and enjoying a lot of sex, the problem only comes if you're letting it impact your work and social life. If so, then you just have poor self control. Humans have been about for ages without sex being an addiction, it's just part of how we're wired.

It's similar to food addition, most who claim it, aren't actually addicted to eating, they either have a wire crossed that means they don't know when they're full, or they use it as a coping mechanism for another issue.

I do not think it has been mentioned so far that as part of sex addiction the addiction can also be used as a coping mechanism like when having low self-esteem, depressed etc

Then there is the subsequent guilt in most cases...

The wanting to stop but can't, then followed by self-loathing

are some other characteristics of it.

[TailSeeker]

I do not think it has been mentioned so far that as part of sex addiction the addiction can also be used as a coping mechanism like when having low self-esteem, depressed etc

Then there is the subsequent guilt in most cases...

The wanting to stop but can't, then followed by self-loathing

are some other characteristics of it.

The big thing with sex addiction is that the behaviour is linked to porn, a porn addiction, not sex.

Then is some argument against die to withdrawal, but that falls down when compared to gambling. But at the same time, sex and porn always spark up the same pathways "addicted" or not.

I suspect it's more the availability of pornography vs before, and the greater difficulty getting laid for many. It's not that long ago that pornography wasn't a thing.

And the fact that it's about 90% men claiming the addiction is where it falls down for me. Other addictions have a pretty even split.

The self loathing after is a recent thing where we have shamed men about having a high sex drive. You don't see it as much with women as we've been told for eons we're not supposed to enjoy sex.

[peter purves]

The big thing with sex addiction is that the behaviour is linked to porn, a porn addiction, not sex.

Then is some argument against die to withdrawal, but that falls down when compared to gambling. But at the same time, sex and porn always spark up the same pathways "addicted" or not.

I suspect it's more the availability of pornography vs before, and the greater difficulty getting laid for many. It's not that long ago that pornography wasn't a thing.

And the fact that it's about 90% men claiming the addiction is where it falls down for me. Other addictions have a pretty even split.

The self loathing after is a recent thing where we have shamed men about having a high sex drive. You don't see it as much with women as we've been told for eons we're not supposed to enjoy sex.

There is the link to pornography, some also link it to visiting prostitutes also and/or partaking in what is considered 'unsafe' sexual practices too.

[A Decent Fist]

So hitchen is to be believed because he writes for the daily mail?

I didn't mention the Mail – what's that got to do with anything? I have read his articles all over the place and agree with most of them and disagree with a few. He's a bit of a puritan, which I'm not (obvs).

Hitchens writes for the Mail on Sunday, anyway, which uniquely among national papers in 2018 is still an entirely separate operation from its daily equivalent, in the editorial department at least. Different politics, too. The Mail on Sunday official line has always been Remain against the Daily Mail's diehard Leave stance, for example.

Since hardly anyone buys newspapers these days, you probably only ever see the trashy showbiz dominated Mail Online site (where Hitchens' column also appears). That is also a mostly separate entity.

[peter purves]

The self loathing after is a recent thing where we have shamed men about having a high sex drive. You don't see it as much with women as we've been told for eons we're not supposed to enjoy sex.

I am not so sure, I suspect the self-loathing comes in because some cannot control themselves, the cheating, the contrary moral values often moral some times religious.

Guilt is part of the trait of addiction for male and female - well the current theory suggests - and even probaly more so for women who are not supposed to be sexually active ie slut, hussy etc

[TailSeeker]

I am not so sure, I suspect the self-loathing comes in because some cannot control themselves, the cheating, the contrary moral values often moral some times religious.

Guilt is part of the trait of addiction for male and female - well the current theory suggests - and even probaly more so for women who are not supposed to be sexually active ie slut, hussy etc

I think it's very much a current thing, women have been long shamed about enjoying sex (hysteria is a good example, back when it first came about, or just the mantra "lie back and think of England", or even further back, women advocating for enjoying sex is a very recent thing). Whereas men have long had the deciding vote, men could turn down brides for lack of attraction, and affairs were common place up until fairly recently.

An unfortunate side effect of liberation of women has meant shaming of men for long held behaviours. Not that that is always a bad thing, but for some it very much has been.

I've certainly heard from more than a few idiots that porn is cheating (both men and women), and it's unacceptable to have a friend of the opposing gender. We have entered the era of too coddled and it creates disorders where there were never any.

It is solely that porn and availability for cheating is easier now, it has always happened. But it's easier to get into, and easier to find out. Plus people are precious and think they should be the be all and end all to another person. As Dan Savage puts it, if you cheat once or twice, you didn't fail at monogamy, you did very well, just a hiccup or two.

[peter purves]

I think it's very much a current thing, women have been long shamed about enjoying sex (hysteria is a good example, back when it first came about, or just the mantra "lie back and think of England", or even further back, women advocating for enjoying sex is a very recent thing). Whereas men have long had the deciding vote, men could turn down brides for lack of attraction, and affairs were common place up until fairly recently.

An unfortunate side effect of liberation of women has meant shaming of men for long held behaviours. Not that that is always a bad thing, but for some it very much has been.

I've certainly heard from more than a few idiots that porn is cheating (both men and women), and it's unacceptable to have a friend of the opposing gender. We have entered the era of too coddled and it creates disorders where there were never any.

It is solely that porn and availability for cheating is easier now, it has always happened. But it's easier to get into, and easier to find out. Plus people are precious and think they should be the be all and end all to another person. As Dan Savage puts it, if you cheat once or twice, you didn't fail at monogamy, you did very well, just a hiccup or two.

Not so much a response to what you have said here, but perhaps a follow up to what I have said

How are Female Sex Addicts Different from Males?

Using some of his early research discussed in his book Don’t Call It Love, Dr. Patrick Carnes discovered that, in general, male sex addicts tend to objectify their partners. They seem to prefer sexual behavior involving relatively little emotional involvement. This leads male sex addicts to engage primarily in such activities as voyeuristic sex, buying prostitutes, having anonymous sex, and engaging in exploitative sex. This may be seen as a logical extension of the way that men in our culture are raised to view women and sex.

As the dozens of pop psychology books on male-female relationships can attest, there is no end to the lament that men in our culture have difficulty with bonding and intimacy issues. We live in a culture that prizes competition and autonomy, particularly for men: getting ahead, going for the gold, becoming an individual, gaining mastery of feelings, making sexual notches on one’s belt. Taken to the extreme, these values can easily lead to extreme isolation, objectification of sex partners, an inability to express feelings, and a strong sense of entitlement at the expense of others—all fertile breeding ground for addictive behaviors.

Women sex addicts, on the other hand, tend to use sex for power, control, and attention. They score high on measures of fantasy sex, seductive role sex, trading sex, and pain exchange. Unlike men, female sex addicts do not seem to be following an intensified trend already existing in the general culture. In fact, by acting out sexually, these women seem to be reacting against culturally prescribed norms.

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[lovespike]

Sex addiction is definitely real, the process of sex has the same affect on the brain as getting a high from drugs or the buzz of seeing whether the roulette ball  lands on red or black. It's all about how chemical reactions in our brain react to certain stimuli and how are brain becomes trained to expect that response again and again.

When I was younger I turned to sex and masturbation to get my stress relief which in turn lead to both porn addiction and then later escorts. Once I started getting my hands on serious money it soon developed into gambling. I've finally quit pissing away money after finally giving up chasing losses and have now decided to settle with seeing one regular escort to get my stress relief.

The only saving grace is that I haven't turned to drink or drugs in all this time.

[Ali Katt]

Addicted to slapping each other on the back then?

So hitchen is to be believed because he writes for the daily mail? Christ on a bike! All he did in that article is suggest it's a choice to abuse something and can be simply given up.

Easy to say if got a comfortable and well paid job and to keep that, he needs to keep putting out 'controversial' stuff. Bit of an agenda don't you think?

Why did George Best kill himself by drinking then? Much easier ways to die if that's what he wanted to do and he knew the end point but carried on.

And what choice does someone who was abused as kid have?

Easy answers like those presented by hitchin achieve nothing.

Sure why not? I'm sorry I can't be your bromance. Hitchins is a very intelligent man who went from Trotskyite to right wing Christian. His articles are always well written whether you agree with what he is saying and interviews he is always erudite and informed can you say the same about Guardian writer Owen Jones?

This will be my last reply to you on this thread as I think it is an interesting question and I don't want to derail it.

[Ali Katt]

I think it's very much a current thing, women have been long shamed about enjoying sex (hysteria is a good example, back when it first came about, or just the mantra "lie back and think of England", or even further back, women advocating for enjoying sex is a very recent thing). Whereas men have long had the deciding vote, men could turn down brides for lack of attraction, and affairs were common place up until fairly recently.

An unfortunate side effect of liberation of women has meant shaming of men for long held behaviours. Not that that is always a bad thing, but for some it very much has been.

I've certainly heard from more than a few idiots that porn is cheating (both men and women), and it's unacceptable to have a friend of the opposing gender. We have entered the era of too coddled and it creates disorders where there were never any.

It is solely that porn and availability for cheating is easier now, it has always happened. But it's easier to get into, and easier to find out. Plus people are precious and think they should be the be all and end all to another person. As Dan Savage puts it, if you cheat once or twice, you didn't fail at monogamy, you did very well, just a hiccup or two.

I do agree with most of what you are saying. I think there is another issue and it is people on this board tend to be more sexually liberal than the average hausfrau and even a lot of the "lads" who are wanking their lives away. I speak to a few people and it seems to be one of mediocre sex because they just won't let go of some preconceived notion of convention. I know one guy from back home and he hasn't fucked or had a "gob job" off his wife in years, I can't see the marriage lasting; I don't talk punting with anyone, but I half suspect he might come over to the dark side.

[peter purves]

Sex addiction is definitely real, the process of sex has the same affect on the brain as getting a high from drugs or the buzz of seeing whether the roulette ball  lands on red or black. It's all about how chemical reactions in our brain react to certain stimuli and how are brain becomes trained to expect that response again and again.

When I was younger I turned to sex and masturbation to get my stress relief which in turn lead to both porn addiction and then later escorts. Once I started getting my hands on serious money it soon developed into gambling. I've finally quit pissing away money after finally giving up chasing losses and have now decided to settle with seeing one regular escort to get my stress relief.

The only saving grace is that I haven't turned to drink or drugs in all this time.

Oh don't fall apart on us LS 

[Bonker]

Does Sex Addiction Really Exist?

Yes yes oh god yes ahhh

[Locallad1]

No just weak characters, or film stars etc who get caught 

[2 pair]

Hey, sorry to bring up, an old thread, but had been thinking about this myself.
Did a bit of research, then found this website.

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Then looked on here, to see what you think, but seen that this had been talked, about before, without any mention, of a sex addict website.