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Roland D Hay

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I've never quite understood this but most prossie's who see couples. either MF or MM seem to want to double their money or at least charge a premium on their normal rate. Personally I don't think this is right. If I book an hour and I want to watch the WG go down on my girlfriend for that hour then why should I pay double?

Offline hockogrockle

If you go into a restaurant and order a meal for two, don't you expect to pay double? But (a bit more seriously), if you feel strongly on this issue (and you obviously do) why not try negotiating a discount? Threesomes must be a pretty infrequent request, after all. So there can hardly be a fixed price structure.

SirFrank

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Well each to their own but I'd happily pay double to see a WG eat my wife's kebab. Sadly there's more chance of my wife sucking my dick tonight and blowing cum bubbles until the sun comes up

Offline smiths

I've never quite understood this but most prossie's who see couples. either MF or MM seem to want to double their money or at least charge a premium on their normal rate. Personally I don't think this is right. If I book an hour and I want to watch the WG go down on my girlfriend for that hour then why should I pay double?

When i did MMF punts it was usual to pay either the WGs single rate times two or a bit less. Whether its VFM of course depends on if the punt was good or not. At the good ones the WG was more than dealing with just one guy much of the time, she was probably doing at least one and a half times as much work as with one punter only.


Offline socks

Well each to their own but I'd happily pay double to see a WG eat my wife's kebab. Sadly there's more chance of my wife sucking my dick tonight and blowing cum bubbles until the sun comes up
What a beautiful turn of phrase. You don't get that from the kids of today, it's all txt spk and emoticons  :scare: They're losing the joy of language, the art of prose, the skill of using words to bring pictures to the mind.

Have you thought of offering adult education classes in the skills of creative writing Frank?

Offline Boundless

I've had a couple of MMF sessions with couples where there was a set fee for the 2 of them, not much more than some WGs charge alone.

When I had a FFM with 2 indies, one of them wanted to charge me double (plus petrol!) as she said she was effectively having sex with 2 people but I made her a lower offer which she accepted. The other girl, a regular of mine just charged her normal, reasonable hourly rate.

Rochdull lad

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Well each to their own but I'd happily pay double to see a WG eat my wife's kebab. Sadly there's more chance of my wife sucking my dick tonight and blowing cum bubbles until the sun comes up

What a beautiful turn of phrase. You don't get that from the kids of today, it's all txt spk and emoticons  :scare: They're losing the joy of language, the art of prose, the skill of using words to bring pictures to the mind.

Have you thought of offering adult education classes in the skills of creative writing Frank?

+1.

I always have to check whether Mike Read's face is smiling out at me when I open a new page on here.

If it is and I'm eating/drinking something while at the laptop, I make sure I've swallowed it before reading SirFrank's comment so that I don't spew it up over the screen!

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I imagine a lot of it is laziness - they don't realistically get asked often so don't really think of a realistic price. I can imagine it also depends on the girl - again many haven't done it so possibly feel intimidated with 2 guys in the room. I would think if it's a regular who trusts you or you do it regularly with the girl then you could likely get a better price.

Offline threechilliman

+1.

I always have to check whether Mike Read's face is smiling out at me when I open a new page on here.

If it is and I'm eating/drinking something while at the laptop, I make sure I've swallowed it before reading SirFrank's comment so that I don't spew it up over the screen!

+1. Have you considered stand up SirF?

James999

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More money for less work, sounds like pro$$ie logic  :music:

vorian

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Look at is this way.  If you have a FFM then you get told it's full rate per girl, as you are paying for their time, even if they are doing half the work, OK fair enough. However if you do a couple FFM booking you have to pay more as two people,  even if the time is the same.

Prossie logic = Having your cake and eating it.

Offline cunnyhunt

My GF would occasionally book someone for a FFM with us, as she did the booking then money was not such a big issue for the WG. If I made the booking then the money was a primary in the discussion.
We have now not done this for 18 months+ and only with a few people as the GF has a regular female FB.

Offline YouOnlyLiveOnce

It makes no sense to me.

You're supposedly paying for her time, plus a bit extra for preparation time (which is why a half-hour booking costs more than half the one-hour fee).  She doesn't need more time to prepare for a threesome.

And couples typically charge a rate for threesomes that is either equal to or a bit less than twice their individual rate (so two £100 girls might charge £150-£200).  But if I were to pick the two individually for a DIY threesome, I'd expect to pay the standard incall rate for one and the standard outcall rate for the other.  No way that I would pay morre.

Maybe MFF and MMF are different? Each girl in MFF is working less, but the one in MMF would be rather busy.

Miss Summers x

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Personally if i have a MFF booking I charge an extra £50 on top of my usual fee, double is way too much (in my opinion)

But if im seeing 2 males (fMM) booking then i charge double :thumbsup: ,

I do love a good threesome  :kiss: x


Offline Dani

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If it is a MFF and I have chosen the girl then I don't charge my whole hours fee and neither does she as I see it as less work and more fun.
If a client picks the girl I charge an extra £50 as I would see it as extra work for me as it is not a girl of my choosing and may well be someone I would not really want to interact with.
If it is a MMF then I charge double my fee as I know I will be working twice as hard as will have to keep two men pleased at all times

SirFrank

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Cheers fellas much appreciated

Roland D Hay

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If it is a MFF and I have chosen the girl then I don't charge my whole hours fee and neither does she as I see it as less work and more fun.
If a client picks the girl I charge an extra £50 as I would see it as extra work for me as it is not a girl of my choosing and may well be someone I would not really want to interact with.
If it is a MMF then I charge double my fee as I know I will be working twice as hard as will have to keep two men pleased at all times

The fact that you see it as 'working' twice as hard would give me cause for concern Dani. You either enjoy threesomes or you don't. What if someone booked you on a 1-2-1 basis but asked you to work twice as hard, would you charge double for that?

I also think the comment about keeping two men pleased is nonsense. I don't do MMF but I do MFF and I enjoy this partly because of the visual stimulus, this is pretty common for most men. I don't find that I work twice as hard to keep both girls entertained and I don't make that comment as a boast, I really don't think anyone does.

We do not pay for bookings based on workrate and if we did it would all get a little ridiculous because it is immeasurable. We pay for your time and there are only 60 minutes in an hour not 120.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 10:26:02 pm by Roland D Hay »

SaneOnes

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The fact that you see it as 'working' twice as hard would give me cause for concern Dani. You either enjoy threesomes or you don't. What if someone booked you on a 1-2-1 basis but asked you to work twice as hard, would you charge double for that?

I also think the comment about keeping two men pleased is nonsense. I don't do MMF but I do MFF and I enjoy this partly because of the visual stimulus, this is pretty common for most men. I don't find that I work twice as hard to keep both girls entertained and I don't make that comment as a boast, I really don't think anyone does.

My sentiment exactly!!!

Offline Dani

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I also think the comment about keeping two men pleased is nonsense. I don't do MMF but I do MFF and I enjoy this partly because of the visual stimulus, this is pretty common for most men. I don't find that I work twice as hard to keep both girls entertained and I don't make that comment as a boast, I really don't think anyone does.

In a 1-2-1 booking I only have one cock in one place at a time. The MMFs I have done have consisted of two cocks being one each end at all times which is much harder work than the most energetic 1-2-1.
 I don't state you are paying for my time as that is just for a disclaimer in countries where it is illegal and we all know that. I charge by time slots for the services you want. If it was just for my time I would not bother doing anything in the booking as you would still get my time without sex.
 I charge double for two men as it is much harder than two women as entertaining two women you don't have two cocks ramming into you at both ends non stop. If two women booked me I would not charge double as even full on it is not exhausting unlike two men. You may like the visual side and stop to hv a look but not all men do and some want to spend the whole time banging at both ends. It is really hard work and much more physically demanding than any 1-2-1.  You also have to be constantly on guard. More so than in a 1-2-1.
If it was two clients I knew and trusted then it wouldn't be double the price however this is never the case and it is normally young lads who I don't know or trust which is why I rarely agree to do them anymore

Offline wazzockchops

I think they can charge what the fuck they like and if you don't like find someone else!

Offline Garden69

I think they can charge what the fuck they like and if you don't like find someone else!

My sentiment exactly.

Offline Daffodil

Personally if i have a MFF booking I charge an extra £50 on top of my usual fee, double is way too much (in my opinion)

But if im seeing 2 males (fMM) booking then i charge double :thumbsup: ,

I do love a good threesome  :kiss: x

So you "love a good threesome", but you charge more for the privilege (double in the case of two guys)?

You're a fucking liar  :hi:

Offline Daffodil

We hear all this bollocks about "you're paying for my time", so why do two guys pay more?  :dash:

It's the same time, but greedy prossies try to make the rules  :rolleyes:

To the op, if it's something you're interested in, you can probably negotiate a fairer deal. Also find the girls who are genuinely into it (not like Miss Summers) and they will happily do it for a fairer fee.

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None of my regulars charge extra for MFF. If's it's MMF with another punter, then that's always negotiable. If it's MMF (or more M's) with male escorts that I pay, then the girls don't charge extra to fuck them either.

Offline Horizontal pleasures

I have considered asking for a bulk discount but decided it would not be tactful:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=29926.0

In my experience MFF is double the single F and just sometimes a discount like the £80 ladies would make it £70 each. But I have never paid over £200 for 2 and that very very rarely. I reckon on £140 to £180 top.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 03:42:24 pm by Horizontal pleasures »

Offline mh

I think many of the answers seem to be referring to a "standard" FFM or MMF booking where either a punter books 2 WGs or 2 punters book 1 WG.

But the OP was bemoaning the situation where a MF couple book a WG and the WG wants to charge double her normal rate for such a couples booking.

The chances of this happening for me are even slimmer than Sir Frank's well articulated chances with his other half!

But in a fantasy world where it were a possibility, I would expect to pay more than for a 1-2-1, but definitely nowhere close to double.

Roland D Hay

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In a 1-2-1 booking I only have one cock in one place at a time. The MMFs I have done have consisted of two cocks being one each end at all times which is much harder work than the most energetic 1-2-1.
 I don't state you are paying for my time as that is just for a disclaimer in countries where it is illegal and we all know that. I charge by time slots for the services you want. If it was just for my time I would not bother doing anything in the booking as you would still get my time without sex.
 I charge double for two men as it is much harder than two women as entertaining two women you don't have two cocks ramming into you at both ends non stop. If two women booked me I would not charge double as even full on it is not exhausting unlike two men. You may like the visual side and stop to hv a look but not all men do and some want to spend the whole time banging at both ends. It is really hard work and much more physically demanding than any 1-2-1.  You also have to be constantly on guard. More so than in a 1-2-1.
If it was two clients I knew and trusted then it wouldn't be double the price however this is never the case and it is normally young lads who I don't know or trust which is why I rarely agree to do them anymore

You make a semi reasonable case Dani but you're getting into semantics in stating that charging for time is just a disclaimer because we both know that you'd get very few bookings based on fluffy punters just paying for the pleasure of your company; however enjoyable that may be, it's not why we punt and there is a clear understanding that there will be sexual services offered within a given time frame. You could quite easily circumvent any misunderstanding with regard to work rate by listing sexual services and their associated costs. I still really don't understand why taking two cocks is harder work; if it's something you enjoy then how is it work?  I do take your point about being on your guard with two unknown guys but that is almost a side issue not really related to the point in question... Unless you are saying that working girls should be paid danger money?

Roland D Hay

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Personally if i have a MFF booking I charge an extra £50 on top of my usual fee, double is way too much (in my opinion)

But if im seeing 2 males (fMM) booking then i charge double :thumbsup: ,

I do love a good threesome  :kiss: x

I find comments like this fucking bizarre... You like a good threesome so much that you charge double for it; thereby decreasing your opportunities for threesomes? Similar to girls who claim they 'love' anal but charge £40 extra for it. I avoid them like the plague because I know the only thing they really love is money!   :hi:

Roland D Hay

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I think they can charge what the fuck they like and if you don't like find someone else!

Thanks for your intellectual input.

Offline berksboy

"don't understand why taking two cocks is harder work; if it's something you enjoy then how is it work?"

 Well of course its work , you dont think prosses fuck for the fun of it ? get real when we stop paying see how quick they stop fucking.

Roland D Hay

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"don't understand why taking two cocks is harder work; if it's something you enjoy then how is it work?"

 Well of course its work , you dont think prosses fuck for the fun of it ? get real when we stop paying see how quick they stop fucking.

The good ones get fucked for fun with the added benefit that they get paid for it. The bad ones fuck for pay and see it as work.

Offline wazzockchops

Thanks for your intellectual input.

Well how is it any different from any other business transaction? Supply and demand surely is a huge part of this.

I know tradesmen who put in high quotes if the work is the kind of thing they don't enjoy so much. Their websites show they'll do it and I am sure if they were short of work they'd be putting much more competitive quotes in for it.

vorian

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The good ones get fucked for fun with the added benefit that they get paid for it. The bad ones fuck for pay and see it as work.

Personally that's not how I define a good or a bad prossie, whether they find it fun or not is way, way down my list of priorities.

Offline Bigus Dickus

If I hired a clown for a couple of hours to entertain me at a set amount per hour , I wouldn't expect the cunt to start multiplying the fee per person being entertained! On this principle I should be multiplying my pay every time I have to work a bit harder than normal! Sounds bollocks to me but it's down to the customer to decide if a service offers value I suppose.

Roland D Hay

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Well how is it any different from any other business transaction? Supply and demand surely is a huge part of this.

I know tradesmen who put in high quotes if the work is the kind of thing they don't enjoy so much. Their websites show they'll do it and I am sure if they were short of work they'd be putting much more competitive quotes in for it.

Yes of course supply and demand is a part of it and I understand that girls will charge whatever they can get. The question isn't about market forces though,  or the basics of economics and elasticity. The great irony is that I'm sure girls lose business by charging double to see couples. The question is about how they can justify doubling their fee's within the same given time slot and I don't think they can. We all know we can go elsewhere if we don't like the rates on offer so you were stating the bleeding obvious in making the statement.

Offline smiths

"don't understand why taking two cocks is harder work; if it's something you enjoy then how is it work?"

 Well of course its work , you dont think prosses fuck for the fun of it ? get real when we stop paying see how quick they stop fucking.

Indeed, if a WG does enjoy fucking and sucking great but i wouldnt rely on it, its not good for future business to say they dont.

Rochdull lad

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The good ones get fucked for fun with the added benefit that they get paid for it. The bad ones fuck for pay and see it as work.

Personally that's not how I define a good or a bad prossie, whether they find it fun or not is way, way down my list of priorities.

I'm sure Roland can speak for himself, vorian; but I took what he wrote as meaning that if a WG enjoys herself, then that enjoyment can communicate to the client and lead to a much better session than one with a WG who treats the meeting simply as "work".

Offline Dani

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Ok I will change it from much harder work to much more physically and emotionally exhausting.  It is foolish to think we enjoy sex with everyone we meet as there are many reasons why we don't. It does not mean we don't enjoy our job Bt it is unrealistic to think we would enjoy every booking. If I chose two guys myself then it would be fun and enjoyable but I don't get to do that so I can't be expected to enjoy every MMF I get booked for. As I said it is more physically demanding and exhausting that any 1-2-1. If you can't see how being spit roasted for an hour is more exhausting than just having normal sex then you have no idea at all
Seeing two women is easy and less tiring than seeing one man so I doubt many men realise how exhausting being with two men is as they wrongly assume it is the same as seeing two women.

To say if I see it that way then basically it is about the money. Of course it is. I wouldn't be having sex with the majority of my clients if I was not being paid and neither would any other prossie. We can still like our jobs even if we don't enjoy every booking as long as the client feels we enjoyed every second of it.

Offline Jimmyredcab

There is no justification for the fee to be doubled, I would say that a 50% premium sounds fair.   

Miss Summers x

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I think a service is what your willing to pay for it, wether somone charges £1 or 1 million pounds, if you dont like the price, then dont book x

vorian

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I think a service is what your willing to pay for it, wether somone charges £1 or 1 million pounds, if you dont like the price, then dont book x

Of course but in some ways that is a separate argument.

Miss Summers x

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I see what you mean vorian.

In earlier arguments it was said 'why should you pay double is you enjoy the threesomes', well I also enjoy regular 1-2-1 sex but i charge for that also  :rolleyes:

Silly sausages x

Offline Daffodil

I see what you mean vorian.

In earlier arguments it was said 'why should you pay double is you enjoy the threesomes', well I also enjoy regular 1-2-1 sex but i charge for that also  :rolleyes:

Silly sausages x

You're a patronising cunt and thick as shit. Probably why you're a prossie.

I don't see the point of explaining your logic failings because I believe you're too stupid to understand.

Silly sausage  :hi:

Roland D Hay

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I'm sure Roland can speak for himself, vorian; but I took what he wrote as meaning that if a WG enjoys herself, then that enjoyment can communicate to the client and lead to a much better session than one with a WG who treats the meeting simply as "work".

I can but you said it just as well  :hi:

Roland D Hay

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I see what you mean vorian.

In earlier arguments it was said 'why should you pay double is you enjoy the threesomes', well I also enjoy regular 1-2-1 sex but i charge for that also  :rolleyes:

Silly sausages x

I initially thought Daff's response was a little harsh but on second read of this shite I can see his point.   :hi:

Miss Summers x

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.... And there was me thinking you guys visited us girls for our brains and intelligence  :wackogirl: !

Offline Daffodil

.... And there was me thinking you guys visited us girls for our brains and intelligence  :wackogirl: !

Luckily for you that isn't the case  :sarcastic:

Offline NIK

+1.

I always have to check whether Mike Read's face is smiling out at me when I open a new page on here.

If it is and I'm eating/drinking something while at the laptop, I make sure I've swallowed it before reading SirFrank's comment so that I don't spew it up over the screen!

Yes you don't get characters like that on Prossynet!  :drinks:

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Just a little update from a couples perspective.

Last Thursday the wife and I were looking for fun in Birmingham at around 10pm.

I had mailed a number of ladies that we liked the look of the day before - 4 replied saying they were happy to work with couples.

2 replied with contact numbers 2 said call me when ready to book.

So - the time comes and all 4 flaked out on us.

So then start to use the purple site to find some fun.

At 9.30 on a Thursday night we parked up in the Quinton area and started calling people.

In a 20 mile radius of where we were we couldnt find ANY fun for less than £400 for 2 hours.

A couple of EE ladies said they would play with couples but not touch my wife and the cost would be £200 but didnt like the set up - ie noisy background with blokes and girls talking in foreign language.

So ladies here - please, there are nice, clean, professional couples around that would love to party with you if your rates are reasonable!