Leech reviewers

[Marmalade]

Saw this on Saafe:

Hi, I wanted to ask you if you would like to get regular positive feedback on ukpunting? I have genuine account on there with a few reviews and would like to post up positive reviews about you every so often. In return, would you consider letting me see you at a discounted rate"

Admin has caught one or two of those scumbags and banned them.

Several prossies said they'd had the same message.
a) only desperate prossies would accept such an offer
b) so it's a pretty stupid thing to try
c) such leeches get caught eventually anyway

[Marmalade]

Another leech is George Muppet. A recent post says he posts reviews from UKP. Another cunt that not only tries to get discounts but blackmails women into giving him freebies with threats of bad reviews or promises of good reviews if they 'cooperate.'

Real reviewers post for the benefit of other punters who need critical information to help decide how to spend hard earned cash. Not to win 'favours'. 

[Jas1975]

What kind of pr**k does this?

[Students Notebook]

Another leech is George Muppet. A recent post says he posts reviews from UKP. Another cunt that not only tries to get discounts but blackmails women into giving him freebies with threats of bad reviews or promises of good reviews if they 'cooperate.'

Real reviewers post for the benefit of other punters who need critical information to help decide how to spend hard earned cash. Not to win 'favours'. 

Thank you Marmalade.

I'm with you all the way. Bloody revolting behaviour.

S.N.

[smiths]

Saw this on Saafe:

Admin has caught one or two of those scumbags and banned them.

Several prossies said they'd had the same message.
a) only desperate prossies would accept such an offer
b) so it's a pretty stupid thing to try
c) such leeches get caught eventually anyway

Yes these fuckers are real scum who are trying to undermine UKP for their own benefit.

[smiths]

Another leech is George Muppet. A recent post says he posts reviews from UKP. Another cunt that not only tries to get discounts but blackmails women into giving him freebies with threats of bad reviews or promises of good reviews if they 'cooperate.'

Real reviewers post for the benefit of other punters who need critical information to help decide how to spend hard earned cash. Not to win 'favours'. 

I despise Muppet and the fact he and some of the media seem to think he represents punters, that prick most certainly doesn't represent me. I don't go round trying to get freebies off WGs or else he may give them a bad review in his poxy guide.

[mr.bluesky]

Another leech is George Muppet. A recent post says he posts reviews from UKP. Another cunt that not only tries to get discounts but blackmails women into giving him freebies with threats of bad reviews or promises of good reviews if they 'cooperate.'

Real reviewers post for the benefit of other punters who need critical information to help decide how to spend hard earned cash. Not to win 'favours'. 

Yes your right about George Muppet.  I know a working girl who I see on a regular basis who once had a visit from him and "offered" the same sort of deal.  I Did not realise the silly old cunt was still going

[Adzzzz]

People actually try to blackmail wgs with threats of bad reviews just to try and get a freebie? What lowlifes!

Now we all like a discount or freebie but that's a shitty way of getting it.

[OldAdmin]

There's an Asian in North East who's been sending hundreds of similar messages offering fake reviews over past 2 years in return for bareback and discount. His UKP accounts were banned in the past but he's still sending them out, either he has new account or doesn't and just pretends to.

I keep getting prossies forwarding me the messages from him but not much help to identify what his new UKP account is (if he has one at all).  I get a feeling they think I am supposed to shutdown UKP because of this little shit-stain?  It's like demanding TripAdvisor be shutdown because some twat offered hotels fake reviews in return for a free room.

Anyone could send such messages, even if they don't have an account on UKP. Many years ago the UKP haters pretended to be me and sent such messages on AW offering fake reviews, the moment I exposed it (thanks to tip-off) they deleted their AW account.

[Turtle1]

The fucked up thing is, the girls that fall these abusive punters trick are genuine girls trying to make a go at it.

They wouldn't dare fuck with an establishment as Sergei would have them by the balls. These cunts need exposing.

[Stalinator]

Absolute scumbags.

[hungrypunt]

I cant believe someone has the frame of mind to actually say, HOI you giveme a freebie/discount/bareback or whatever, and some girls fall for it.

not only that BUT THEN, they go round and shag em, as if its quite normal. Dunno, maybe Ive led a sheltered life(actually Ive not ha ha)  but I couldnt even get hard knowing I was taking advantage or blackmailing someone.

Best of it is, probably all these cunts are low life losers who wouldnt say boo to a goose in real life

[Happyjose]

Great thread.

This can certainly be a murky world

[Marmalade]

Any prostitute with a shred of decency would tell them to get to fuck. I know Emma of a Phoenix was repeatedly harassed by the Muppet cunt and banned the fucker. Unfortunately the girls approached by scammers that have registered on UKP don't always know the identity of the person (although one Scottish scumbag actually boasted about it). I can imagine some hard-up single mother with little brains or business caving in to try and dust her phone but I hope not. They should expose them on Saafe instead and contact UKP Admin. Good prostitutes are eventually rewarded with good business. It's not just a saying: I've seen it happen again and again. Poor performers, whether because of bad attitude, whether of their own making or simply lack of sense, will get their cummuppance. It's one of the side-benefits of UKP to the industry generally.

[daviemac]

There's an Asian in North East who's been sending hundreds of similar messages offering fake reviews over past 2 years in return for bareback and discount. His UKP accounts were banned in the past but he's still sending them out, either he has new account or doesn't and just pretends to.

There's a lot of members in the NE remember that well, we've had a few posting fake reviews and having fake accounts in the past. If a review appears to be a bit suspect it does get questioned, some take that as a personal attack, it isn't, it's just an attempt to maintain the integrity of the site.   

We can all do without these scumbags.

[EnglishRebecca121]

Muppet is an asshole ive asked hi numerous times to remove me and he replies he doesnt have to


hes a grade a prick

[Marmalade]

There's a lot of members in the NE remember that well, we've had a few posting fake reviews and having fake accounts in the past. If a review appears to be a bit suspect it does get questioned, some take that as a personal attack, it isn't, it's just an attempt to maintain the integrity of the site.   

We can all do without these scumbags.

Very true. But I do think we have also to be wary of fluffies who "question" any review that negs one of their objects of adoration. They don't even always realise what they're doing and feel they are "only being fair". Bottom line, as has often been noted, UKP is no place for self-serving Prossie Promoters or well-meaning White Knights; but genuine reviewers, sometimes at personal risk, have to be able to withstand occasional flack if they genuinely are committed to helping other punters.
 

[Marmalade]

Muppet is an asshole ive asked hi numerous times to remove me and he replies he doesnt have to


hes a grade a prick

Pleased we agree on something Rebecca. 

[daviemac]

Very true. But I do think we have also to be wary of fluffies who "question" any review that negs one of their objects of adoration. They don't even always realise what they're doing and feel they are "only being fair". Bottom line, as has often been noted, UKP is no place for self-serving Prossie Promoters or well-meaning White Knights; but genuine reviewers, sometimes at personal risk, have to be able to withstand occasional flack if they genuinely are committed to helping other punters.
 

Very true, genuine reviewers are always welcome and we quite often point out that the review was the way it happened for him, at the time, regardless of how it went for others with the same prossie.     

[Trotter671]

Low life cheap skate wankers who do this. I can't believe Muppet is still trying this on either - what an utter twat

[Stalinator]

Please excuse my ignorance but who is Muppet?

[Lilywhite]

Another leech is George Muppet. A recent post says he posts reviews from UKP. Another cunt that not only tries to get discounts but blackmails women into giving him freebies with threats of bad reviews or promises of good reviews if they 'cooperate.'

Real reviewers post for the benefit of other punters who need critical information to help decide how to spend hard earned cash. Not to win 'favours'. 

The guy is a fucking idiot. I've never seen him, but he managed to get my personal number a few years back and put it on his site. When I found out about it I realised it was a number that was with a phone I handed to the police after witnessing and recording an assault. I told him numerous times this phone number was with the police as well as asking to take my photos down. He took the photos down, he kept the number up- it's still there to this day. 

Well done George, you gave punters a number that the police had access too. Not a fucking care for punters at all.

[sparkus]

I really do feel for SPs, the amount of crap they have to put up.  If it's not this it's other offers of 'help' - pictures, security, marketing etc.

One told me that a guy made her the offer that he could be on hand to work with her, giving (male) punters the benefit of his additional 'services'.  When she said that she doubted most men seeking the services of a female sex worker would want that, he said "But I could add some element of surprise, like jumping out from behind the door while you provide the hand job."

I mean, come on, deep down that's what we want when we punt is another bloke to jump out from a wardrobe, shouting 'Surprise!'

Or alternatively: some people are really fucking dumb, aren't they?

[IAMBATMAN]

this was kinda brought up in a previous thread https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=148194.msg1624843#msg1624843 sad to know its actually true tho

[Marmalade]

Please excuse my ignorance but who is Muppet?

Have a look on Amazon or anywhere else ... self-publicist who 'writes' many 'guides' to saunas, brothels, indies, tries to fuck prossies without paying, all over the country like he is an expert of some sort, does media interviews, bribes, blackmails, lies, exposes etc etc etc. As many experienced punters and prossies know, he is a disgusting piece of shit that would be better wiped off the face of Britain and sent to live in North Korea or somewhere.

[smiths]

Have a look on Amazon or anywhere else ... self-publicist who 'writes' many 'guides' to saunas, brothels, indies, tries to fuck prossies without paying, all over the country like he is an expert of some sort, does media interviews, bribes, blackmails, lies, exposes etc etc etc. As many experienced punters and prossies know, he is a disgusting piece of shit that would be better wiped off the face of Britain and sent to live in North Korea or somewhere.

What an excellent summation of him.

[hungrypunt]

Please excuse my ignorance but who is Muppet?

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=63215.0

[Steely Dan]

Arse.  I wish we could set up the guy and trap him.  Then force him to meet one from Cueball's cage.

I have genuine account on there with a few reviews and would like to post up positive reviews about you every so often.

And some wonder why many of us give a hard time to posters who review the same escort every few months?  It is really not necessary nor helpful to punters.  A two year rule would reduce this threat.  Same for negatives - one every 2 years is enough so shit heads can't threaten Armageddon to an escort either.

[IAMBATMAN]

Arse.  I wish we could set up the guy and trap him.  Then force him to meet one from Cueball's cage.
And some wonder why many of us give a hard time to posters who review the same escort every few months?  It is really not necessary nor helpful to punters.  A two year rule would reduce this threat.  Same for negatives - one every 2 years is enough so shit heads can't threaten Armageddon to an escort either.

i dont see the point in doing more than one within a year unless somethings changed (service, looks etc) or it was drastically different from the last visit

[OneOfaKind]

Arse.  I wish we could set up the guy and trap him.  Then force him to meet one from Cueball's cage.
And some wonder why many of us give a hard time to posters who review the same escort every few months?  It is really not necessary nor helpful to punters.  A two year rule would reduce this threat.  Same for negatives - one every 2 years is enough so shit heads can't threaten Armageddon to an escort either.

I've created more than 2 negatives very recently but only 1 of them I've actually met where the rest are for those who I didn't meet.

This site seems to do ok with punters policing punters and a degree of common sense.

[smiths]

Arse.  I wish we could set up the guy and trap him.  Then force him to meet one from Cueball's cage.
And some wonder why many of us give a hard time to posters who review the same escort every few months?  It is really not necessary nor helpful to punters.  A two year rule would reduce this threat.  Same for negatives - one every 2 years is enough so shit heads can't threaten Armageddon to an escort either.

Not up me of course but I think 2 years is far too long a timescale, 6 months is about right in my view. Not clear what you mean by same for negatives-one every 2 years, what exactly do you mean?

[Chuckman]

Muppet is still going? Good grief.  Still using the same blackmailing MO as well. The bloke is an absolute twunt. 

Reviews should be an honest assessment about who've we've seen with our hard earned, not written so we can gain favours from WGs like a cunt-struck fluffy. Nor should they be used as a threat to obtain cheaper, better services because that person is some twisted, arrogant piece of detritus who threatens to ruin a WGs reputation for no good reason.

[Steely Dan]

Not up me of course but I think 2 years is far too long a timescale, 6 months is about right in my view. Not clear what you mean by same for negatives-one every 2 years, what exactly do you mean?

I don't think you or any other highly trustworthy posters have ever done reviews that close together unless it was a duo or a different rating or something. Just suggesting others follow your example.

A guy gave a negative to a girl.  Then booked her again anyway.  And gave her another negative.  So she got 2 negatives from same guy in a short time.  This is within the rules.  Am suggesting that one negative every two years should be a maximum.  So guys cant reward with multiple positives nor threaten with multiple negatives.

6 months is pretty short.  In 13 months a girl can have 3 pos.  Ok, most readers would realise that 3 from the same guy are not convincing, but some escorts may think this is a good deal for a free fuck or two.  All Admins call clearly, just sharing a view.

[smiths]

I don't think you or any other highly trustworthy posters have ever done reviews that close together unless it was a duo or a different rating or something. Just suggesting others follow your example.

A guy gave a negative to a girl.  Then booked her again anyway.  And gave her another negative.  So she got 2 negatives from same guy in a short time.  This is within the rules.  Am suggesting that one negative every two years should be a maximum.  So guys cant reward with multiple positives nor threaten with multiple negatives.

6 months is pretty short.  In 13 months a girl can have 3 pos.  Ok, most readers would realise that 3 from the same guy are not convincing, but some escorts may think this is a good deal for a free fuck or two.  All Admins call clearly, just sharing a view.

I have done positives on 1 or 2 of the same WGs about 6 months apart. Thanks, I wasn't aware of punters doing more than 1 negative review on the same WG, personally if I give a negative I wont be going back again.

[Donbe]

This forum has a few of them. I've seen several girls who:

a) have been scared of a bad review so done shit they didn't want
b) been threatened into freebies/extras

[mr.bluesky]

Please excuse my ignorance but who is Muppet?

George Muppet used to have a regular column in the Daily Sport and had a book he used to bring out every year called George Muppets massage parlour guide . A total sleeze bag

[daviemac]

i dont see the point in doing more than one within a year unless somethings changed (service, looks etc) or it was drastically different from the last visit

We had a thread in the NE region discussing the same thing, we'd already had one regarding negatives, so looked for opinions on how often a positive should be posted.
The general consensus seemed to be for the same poster not to repeat review unless services changed and new reviewers to post more of a 'agree with previous reviews' type than full blown account, with enough reviews over a period of time to show standards were maintained without saturating the board. 

[Brazilian Martian]

This forum has a few of them. I've seen several girls who:

a) have been scared of a bad review so done shit they didn't want
b) been threatened into freebies/extras

Who are these guys if you know something you should notify admin ASAP or expose them

[daviemac]

Who are these guys if you know something you should notify admin ASAP or expose them

+ 1
Or tell the girls to contact admin direct.

[Brazilian Martian]

George Muppet used to have a regular column in the Daily Sport and had a book he used to bring out every year called George Muppets massage parlour guide . A total sleeze bag

Let's make it shorter he's basically a old cunt who wears a flap cap that tries to get free punts from prossies. His review book is so fucking dated no credible punter would take anything he says serious

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[mr.bluesky]

  well said that man

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George Muppet used to have a regular column in the Daily Sport and had a book he used to bring out every year called George Muppets massage parlour guide . A total sleeze bag

Let's make it shorter he's basically a old cunt who wears a flap cap that tries to get free punts from prossies. His review book is so fucking dated no credible punter would take anything he says serious

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But you've made it longer   

[Brazilian Martian]

But you've made it longer   

  George Muppet is a cunt that's shorter 

[Donbe]

+ 1
Or tell the girls to contact admin direct.

Who are these guys if you know something you should notify admin ASAP or expose them

Don't know names but it happens frequently according to the WGs

[OldAdmin]

Don't know names but it happens frequently according to the WGs

If it was up to the crap prossies and pimps every single negative review would be a fake malicious one, and every positive review is a fake one in return for discount (except if it's for themselves of course).

They try to convince ignorant fluffies that reviews are fake for a reason, they want them to distrust the review system so it doesn't harm their income from the shit service they provide.

[Chorley]

I vaguely remember hearing about  him.

What an absolutely vile piece of shit! 

[cueball]

if I give a negative I wont be going back again.

That's me too.... if I give a negative then I can guarantee there won't be another review of any description or rating as I'll never return.

On another note... George Muppet has and never had any relevance to any of my punting

[rg41]

Muppet is an asshole ive asked hi numerous times to remove me and he replies he doesnt have to


hes a grade a prick

I would add he is a creep as well as a grade A prick, I saw him on BBC Question Time some years ago which talked about prostitution

[poseidon]

To quote the sheriff Ray Owens in The Last Stand:

My honour is not for sale

People who bribe WGs with positive reviews (or perhaps blackmails them with negative reviews) are scumbags. UKP is about honest and reliable reviews. That is, I find a girl on AW who has hundreds of positive feedback but if she has no reviews here or all her most recent reviews are negatives, I don't risk seeing her.

Recent case in point - Avogadro's fake review of Charissa in which Avo got rumbled and banned. How many punters read that review (or simply saw she had a neg) and decided "there's other fish in the sea". At the end of the drama, I went from "I'll never bother seeing her" to "She could go on my hotlist". However she only does outcalls which wouldn't work for me.

Long story short, UKP reviews are what make or break punting decisions for me. If an AW girl has 400+ feedback and no reviews, she's a TOFTT and I'll probably not be seeing her if what I'm wanting on the day is a solid good punt.

[YidArmy]

I would add he is a creep as well as a grade A prick, I saw him on BBC Question Time some years ago which talked about prostitution

Question Time...The one with David Dimbleby?

No way..must have been another show.