Not paying the slut

[billythedog]

Over the years I have become very tired of girls saying one thing on aw and then doing another when you get there. I am sure we have all had this

Drove 70 miles the other day to see a wg, we had already discussed watersports and face fucking. When I got there the watersports wasn't what we agreed on and the face fucking didn't really happen.

Have any of you ever considered refusing to pay? I don't mean staying the full time, emptying your sack, then not paying - That's theft.

Scenario - WG says anal is fine guaranteed ect, you get there and suddenly your too big.  I think in this scenario it is acceptable for you to get dressed and just go, without paying. After all they have lied and wasted your time

[mgkerx]

Hi
70 miles there 70 miles back thats a lot of your time and petrol for a disappointing punt
My rule of thumb is expect the worst and stay local; so if it turns out to be a decent punt it's a bonus and if not I haven't lost too much,
When travelling for a punt I do check on as many reviews etc as poss

[pumps]

Over the years I have become very tired of girls saying one thing on aw and then doing another when you get there. I am sure we have all had this

Drove 70 miles the other day to see a wg, we had already discussed watersports and face fucking. When I got there the watersports wasn't what we agreed on and the face fucking didn't really happen.

Have any of you ever considered refusing to pay? I don't mean staying the full time, emptying your sack, then not paying - That's theft.

Scenario - WG says anal is fine guaranteed ect, you get there and suddenly your too big.  I think in this scenario it is acceptable for you to get dressed and just go, without paying. After all they have lied and wasted your time

do you mean ask for a refund? what prossies are you visiting that allow you to pay at the end???


When you meet the prossie you should discuss what you require and if its a specialist type of service there needs to be more detail in exactly what you require. Make sure her English is good so there's no confusions ...a lot of these eastern Europeans just say "yes, yes yes" and haven't got a clue what your saying.

Only then IMO after the actions started and she refuses to for-fill her end of the deal then you are fully entitled to ask for a refund (or part refund), whether or not you get one is another story 

[billythedog]

I think most of them I have seen I have not paid until the end

[Bangers and Gash]

Are you doing a negative review, or are you too fluffy? 

[mrhappypants]

I have refused to hand over the money several times and, if I were to fault myself as a rational punter, would say I have not done it nearly enough.  But I think timing is very important here.

Before the session starts and you have handed over the money I would go so far as to say the girl wearing too much foundation is an absolutely acceptable reason to refuse the session - I have found this a cast iron guaranteed predictor of a poor punt. Services not as agreed or looks not to your liking are fair game in my book.  I have  refused a session because frankly I thought the girl was ugly and I did not want to fuck her.  There was no face photo on the profile so I felt justified and she accepted it without challenge.

However, as you start using services and taking up time I think it becomes more difficult to justify asking for anything more than a partial refund.   If the girl starts taking her clothes off you are receiving a service and should expect to pay (something) for it.  The longest as session has gone when I asked for a refund was 20 minutes - (i) the girl bought the session to a close and (ii) I had paid for an hour.  If I had ended it I would not have asked for the refund so far into the session.

I challenged a fucker on here for asking for a refund following full intercourse.  If you have had your cock up the girl I think asking for a refund is pushing it, unless you have paid for a long session. 

I think we have to accept a degree of risk that the session will not go great.  That is very different from refusing to accept being had over on the agreement you reach in arranging the punt.

[Randy Mcknob]

I don't mean staying the full time, emptying your sack, then not paying - That's theft.

Or rape

By your own admission there was some attempt at WS and face fucking, so I'm not sure how you can justify stiffing her the money.

[raylondoner]

I think most of them I have seen I have not paid until the end

Unusual in my experience  as most girls want money before the fun starts, and that makes sense to me.

The problem is, unless you have reconfirmed expectations before this, you have a big disadvantage. 

[peter purves]

However, as you start using services and taking up time I think it becomes more difficult to justify asking for anything more than a partial refund.   If the girl starts taking her clothes off you are receiving a service and should expect to pay (something) for it.  The longest as session has gone when I asked for a refund was 20 minutes - (i) the girl bought the session to a close and (ii) I had paid for an hour.  If I had ended it I would not have asked for the refund so far into the session.

Even if things took a turn for the worst?

[Richthescouser]

Unusual in my experience  as most girls want money before the fun starts, and that makes sense to me.

The problem is, unless you have reconfirmed expectations before this, you have a big disadvantage. 

I find about half of my meets, payment is sorted as I'm getting dressed again. 100% of the time with either of my regulars, and fairly often even on a first meeting. ive found that those who take payment at the end tend to be better punts.

[Steely Dan]

What bangers said.

See, we have already solved this problem.  We write negative reviews of bad punts.  Why not help out? Please share the name of the latest escort that disappointed you after a 70 mile drive.

But anyway, if you agree a price for some services, and the services are not on offer, then it is of course OK to negotiate a new price, or to simply walk.  And under these circumstances, if you walk you can still post a negative review.

[Marmalade]

Unusual in my experience  as most girls want money before the fun starts, and that makes sense to me.

Not only unusual. This guy says "in 10 years of punting" on his 4/4 positive reviews. There must be a secret network of prossies that only he knows.

In Scotland I pay for the room upfront and the girl at the end at parlours ('saunas') -- nowhere else. That's standard. It is also standard to pay any AW upfront in the UK in my experience. The only exceptions I recall have been a couple of prossies I knew so well it was almost like a social call and we both forgot until the end, (but that is out of a fairly large number). A couple of times I've had a total newbie not sure whether to ask for money upfront and given it to her anyway (it prevents misunderstandings later on about what might have been 'expected'). Plus he gets a £50 refund off one of them (cos it was such he had such an amazing big cock I think it was). He is clearly a punting superhero -- UKE might love him. 

Or his mother.

[Marmalade]

On the other hand his posts (not the reviews) look genuine.

when sucking me off id have forced her head down hard

I want abuse the fuck out of her

 I face fucked her while she knelt down straight after WS, I also got her to lay on the bed with her head over the end, but I preferred her on her knees. I grabbed her head with both hands and proceeded to face fuck the shit out of her, making sure she gagged with every pump, she was constantly spitting and drooling, on a few occasions I made her vomit, I also gave her a break now every so often so I could DFK her and suck some saliva off her, Yummy! I made a quick 1 minute video of me face fucking her, she said she will upload to AW

Apparently she didn't.

I'm pretty unshockable and enjoy a good face fuck. But the idea of 'forcing her face down hard' makes me more inclined to feel not just sorry for the poor fucking prossie but also the next punter who might be treated with extreme caution just because the previous punter had 'abused the fuck out of her'.

It makes you wonder how he gets away with 'paying at the end'. No doubt he would like to explain...

[the game]

I suspect it could be to do with your attitude. Reading some of your posts make me really cringe and fear you could be a real danger to wgs if you don't get your own way. 

[stevedave]

I suspect it could be to do with your attitude. Reading some of your posts make me really cringe and fear you could be a real danger to wgs if you don't get your own way. 

Yeah, his recent post history is, um, interesting to say the least...

[Mansell]

I suspect it could be to do with your attitude. Reading some of your posts make me really cringe and fear you could be a real danger to wgs if you don't get your own way. 

Often peoples forum name give the type of person they are ??

[Marmalade]

I'm interested to hear his reply. I often use quite crude language and quite deliberately but the idea of actually abusing a woman in the manner he seems to suggest, even the most skanky of prossies, fills me with disgust. Perhaps it is all role-play talk but I see no indication of that. Also, I think I am correct in saying that forcibly face-fucking a woman can result in very serious injury.

[BarryProudfoot]

The question I'd like to put forward in connection with 'not paying the slut' is, has their ever been an incident where Sergi has got involved and it got physical?

[billythedog]

I wont name and shame the whore because everything else in the booking was ok. I just used that as an example

As said from day 1 on here I only into the PSE / Extreme stuff

Why the fuck would anyone pay for GFE......... an hour on POF/Tinder ect can get a free shag

We all know there are girls who advertise stuff and then don't do it

[the game]

I wont name and shame the whore because everything else in the booking was ok. I just used that as an example

As said from day 1 on here I only into the PSE / Extreme stuff

Why the fuck would anyone pay for GFE......... an hour on POF/Tinder ect can get a free shag

We all know there are girls who advertise stuff and then don't do it

Paying for an arranged PSE/Extreme booking is one thing but physically forcing one upon a girl who is not comfortable with that even had they advertised they were is another thing altogether and is totally unacceptable and sickening behavour.

Lots of members pay for GFE that is their choice and prerogative one I would also hazard a guess as to is a more popular booking girls take as opposed to the one you seek.

[Marmalade]

I'd like to know, out of interest, if you use a safe word when "forcing a girl's head down as you face-fuck her and abuse the fuck out of her".

[Malvolio]

Why the fuck would anyone pay for GFE......... an hour on POF/Tinder ect can get a free shag

I pay for GFE because I still want to fuck attractive women around twenty years younger than me, and I don't stand an earthly of pulling them.

[cueball]

I can't speak for everybody but I've yet to meet a lass that didn't want paying at the start, well, I can't recall any.

Regulars lasses don't tend to worry too much about the timing of the payment as they know they'll get paid but new faces invariably require the money up front.

[EnglishRebecca121]

maybe cause you seem like a feeking rude twat 

[cueball]

maybe cause you seem like a feeking rude twat 

Who's that post aimed at?

[MoTToM]

Why the fuck would anyone pay for GFE......... an hour on POF/Tinder ect can get a free shag

I can only speak for myself, but if it was that easy, I doubt I would've ever started paying for sex. Hence:

I pay for GFE because I still want to fuck attractive women around twenty years younger than me, and I don't stand an earthly of pulling them.

Exactly.

[Mr_Shins]

I have walked on a couple of occasions...
These were generally the "speculative" ones with bad communications beforehand.

My negative review of a woman in North Finchley who was wearing sexy shoes all over her profile photos then didn't have anything similar when I turned up and couldn't understand a word of English either....

When I have walked, it has always been within 5 minutes or so of arrival. Once with a woman who has received a positive review from me here when I came for a second time and she had no appropriate shoes. I have considered whether or not she deserves a negative now for that one... It was a bit rushed for a booking but she did communicate that she had similar shoes to the previous time then didn't. (Which beats me, why lose £120 for a punt instead of going to a local shop to buy some suitable shoes you can get for £20-£40).

By the way, I don't like the use of the word "slut".

At the end of the time, it is a situation of adult consent, and if either side does not wish to consent it does not go ahead.

[pumps]

Who's that post aimed at?

These were my thoughts, it must be OP if she had any sense.

but then again a SP shouldn't be insulting a punter on a punters forum.

[Bangers and Gash]

I wont name and shame the whore...

So stop fucking moaning then. 

[Steely Dan]

I wont name and shame the whore because everything else in the booking was ok. I just used that as an example

So post a positive, but mention this detail.

In what planet is it OK to say you are disappointed about a punt on a punters forum, and refuse to name her?
(by the way, is she a slut or a whore? Why not call her a cunt too? I think if you use a bit more locker-room language, you will be as cool as the Donald)

[Marmalade]

So post a positive, but mention this detail.

In what planet is it OK to say you are disappointed about a punt on a punters forum, and refuse to name her?
(by the way, is she a slut or a whore? Why not call her a cunt too? I think if you use a bit more locker-room language, you will be as cool as the Donald)

I'm personally more interested in what he does rather than the language used. I have no problem with someone calling a prostitute a whore on here. (Some whore don't either.) On the other hand, if he forces or coerces women to do things they wouldn't want to do, I am very concerned. Especially if using such language to justify such actions. I'm also rather unimpressed by the fluffy reviews and refusal to state the good and the bad about a particular punt -- what good is that? But that is a forum matter, not something verging on a criminal offence.

[Yaffa]

Hi
70 miles there 70 miles back thats a lot of your time and petrol for a disappointing punt
My rule of thumb is expect the worst and stay local; so if it turns out to be a decent punt it's a bonus and if not I haven't lost too much,
When travelling for a punt I do check on as many reviews etc as poss

If you arrive to a service providers location and she begins to shy away from xyz, keep it moving....do not get undressed or think it shall get better by sweet talking her.
Her mind is made up and to be fair was made up before you arrived, there are many crooks in this industry, a woman asking for £100 an hour £130 an hour or £300 an hour NEEDS to be atttractively turned out sweet and fresh smelling friendly and keen, if not...move on.