A shit time to punt in my area

[smiths]

So having been punting for over 35 years I find myself sick of the mainly shit WGs in my area of London at present. I have a number of excellent regulars but do like a good newbie to me. Problem is they are severely lacking at present, and especially at a good to me price.

I have met a civvie and apart from the regs have sticked with her for a while now. Covid has done my punting no favours that's for sure and many new WGs are charging vastly to me high prices to start off with. Of course a WG can charge what she likes, as I choose what to pay.

I have never seen A/W worse in my area of North London, and been using it for many years. I hope things will improve over time. For the first time I can recall I have put more effort into finding a good civvie than a WG.

[WelshClipper]

I have a similar problem but from an entirely  different perpective. I live in a desert where the nearest pool of wgs is 70 miles away. This either means I have to try and book ahead which I detest because of all the pitfalls or travel and then try to book.

Problem is most decent British girls seem to be either fully booked or are charging through the roof with dusty phones.

So that leaves me either scrambling for a ROM or having a wank (the latter has happened twice recently)

I am still coping as best I can but its not like my hey day in 2018 when they seemed to be falling into my lap so to speak. 

[smiths]

I have a similar problem but from an entirely  different perpective. I live in a desert where the nearest pool of wgs is 70 miles away. This either means I have to try and book ahead which I detest because of all the pitfalls or travel and then try to book.

Problem is most decent British girls seem to be either fully booked or are charging through the roof with dusty phones.

So that leaves me either scrambling for a ROM or having a wank (the latter has happened twice recently)

I am still coping as best I can but its not like my hey day in 2018 when they seemed to be falling into my lap so to speak. 

Indeed, lots of changes since Covid.

[JayEZ2K]

I agree, although it's not just your area.

I had a grand time in the much missed years of 2018 and 2019. Then stopped punting during lockdowns in 2020, during which time the number of options dwindled, and still haven't recovered. Punting options are much reduced everywhere, and prices have increased. I'm not sure what else we can do, other than make due for now, and hope for a recovery to previous years.

[lillythesavage]

So having been punting for over 35 years I find myself sick of the mainly shit WGs in my area of London at present. I have a number of excellent regulars but do like a good newbie to me. Problem is they are severely lacking at present, and especially at a good to me price.

I have met a civvie and apart from the regs have sticked with her for a while now. Covid has done my punting no favours that's for sure and many new WGs are charging vastly to me high prices to start off with. Of course a WG can charge what she likes, as I choose what to pay.

I have never seen A/W worse in my area of North London, and been using it for many years. I hope things will improve over time. For the first time I can recall I have put more effort into finding a good civvie than a WG.

Nearly 45 years in and your post has made a decision for me, been considering a relationship with a certain Lady for a couple of years now, ever since I met her at her husbands funeral a couple of years back. Though they were no longer an item, her third husband met his maker before the second.

She jokingly calls herself the black widow, I am the only one still kicking,  Time to see if it will work.

[Taggart]

Know what the OP means about the paucity of choice. My hotlist has become proliferated with mediocre escorts. None of the quality girls I saw 5-6 years ago. Pissed off too with COVID restrictions which seriously buggered up my punting plans after a hiatus due to a house and job move.

Not sure what the reasons are, but I feel the do influence of the Romanians has played a big part - cheaper prices, rubbish service - meaning local girls have exited the business through lack of regulars or gone for a steady 9-5 job.

I even see Roms who are trannies are working over here. FFS.

[smiths]

Nearly 45 years in and your post has made a decision for me, been considering a relationship with a certain Lady for a couple of years now, ever since I met her at her husbands funeral a couple of years back. Though they were no longer an item, her third husband met his maker before the second.

She jokingly calls herself the black widow, I am the only one still kicking,  Time to see if it will work.

I don't blame you. Punting really is in a shit state in my area at present. I am the nearest I have ever been to jacking it in.

[lillythesavage]

I don't blame you. Punting really is in a shit state in my area at present. I am the nearest I have ever been to jacking it in.

It has been on my mind for the last couple of years but there will be complications, I spoke to her mother at the funeral, she has dementia, took one look at me and said " Please tell me you are not back with my daughter"  That is not the only complication, there are 4 children, 2 are mine, but 1 thinks dead hubby No. 2 was his father, I have never been told the truth.
The oldest will not be happy at all, he cringes when we meet and does his best to make sure we do not.

Fuck it, what is the worst that can happen, life is too short, time to find out. Plus she has a nice house in a very desirable and affluent postcode 

[sparkus]

What I am finding is that I'm having to travel further afield (in London) and do more research at home and on the fly beforehand, the combination of the two is quite onerous. 

[WelshClipper]

What I am finding is that I'm having to travel further afield (in London) and do more research at home and on the fly beforehand, the combination of the two is quite onerous.

As I mentioned above, I have always had to travel but I 100% agree with you, the time I now take researching now is definitely onerous.

There was a hot chick in Nottingham years ago, Pippa I think, stunning tall busty brunette. I sat in a Mcdonalds on the M1, called her, immediate response, balls deep an hour later. 

That just does not happen anymore except maybe a ROM. 

[LLPunting]

Know what the OP means about the paucity of choice. My hotlist has become proliferated with mediocre escorts. None of the quality girls I saw 5-6 years ago. Pissed off too with COVID restrictions which seriously buggered up my punting plans after a hiatus due to a house and job move.

Not sure what the reasons are, but I feel the do influence of the Romanians has played a big part - cheaper prices, rubbish service - meaning local girls have exited the business through lack of regulars or gone for a steady 9-5 job.

I even see Roms who are trannies are working over here. FFS.

Far less to do with Roms as the sheer number of girls still on the game who aren't Rom confirms, the problem is many girls opting to offer services (lockdown not helping us there) online which can be far more rewarding for much less effort and exposure to us unwashed pervs. 
If OF and other platforms had gone "clean" then we might've seen a return of working girls but the great bane for us RL connoisseurs are the droves of virtual wankers with too much money in their pockets.

[guymids-72]

Same here in my area of the West Mids.
I ended up with a free afternoon after a SP cancelled a booking at late notice.
Sent off a few texts etc....zero replies ended up having a wank🤣

[lovemachine]

Far less to do with Roms as the sheer number of girls still on the game who aren't Rom confirms, the problem is many girls opting to offer services (lockdown not helping us there) online which can be far more rewarding for much less effort and exposure to us unwashed pervs. 
If OF and other platforms had gone "clean" then we might've seen a return of working girls but the great bane for us RL connoisseurs are the droves of virtual wankers with too much money in their pockets.

If thats the case then we're really fucked, how can the situation improve from this.

[Sexpest]

The last couple of girls I’ve seen have moaned about the prices of hotels going up significantly and I’m wondering if that’s why all the touring girls have stopped coming into central london. A hotel that once was £100 a day is now £180 etc. Add on to that parking £50 a day and a lot of the cheaper ones just won’t see London as a viable option. Plus with more and more offices telling their staff they can work from home perhaps out of city areas are a better option for them.
In the city area of London we used to have a massive choice of working girls now only a few come each month. I mainly see English and it’s hard to book anyone these days just have to wait till one pops up.

[Woblybobsdog]

The last couple of girls I’ve seen have moaned about the prices of hotels going up significantly and I’m wondering if that’s why all the touring girls have stopped coming into central london. A hotel that once was £100 a day is now £180 etc. Add on to that parking £50 a day and a lot of the cheaper ones just won’t see London as a viable option. Plus with more and more offices telling their staff they can work from home perhaps out of city areas are a better option for them.
In the city area of London we used to have a massive choice of working girls now only a few come each month. I mainly see English and it’s hard to book anyone these days just have to wait till one pops up.

Thinks thats bs.
Prices in Manchester now match London and the overheads are lower.
I think they are all seeing other girls move their prices and following suit.
Until Aldi get into the whoring game thats the way it will stay

[Colston36]

It has been on my mind for the last couple of years but there will be complications, I spoke to her mother at the funeral, she has dementia, took one look at me and said " Please tell me you are not back with my daughter"  That is not the only complication, there are 4 children, 2 are mine, but 1 thinks dead hubby No. 2 was his father, I have never been told the truth.
The oldest will not be happy at all, he cringes when we meet and does his best to make sure we do not.

Fuck it, what is the worst that can happen, life is too short, time to find out. Plus she has a nice house in a very desirable and affluent postcode 

Christ, and I thought I'd had a complicated private life!

I agree with everyone else here: there is a grave shortage of paid-for happiness. Hard to even get a reply now and I'm bored with most of my old standbys.

[sparkus]

Far less to do with Roms as the sheer number of girls still on the game who aren't Rom confirms, the problem is many girls opting to offer services (lockdown not helping us there) online which can be far more rewarding for much less effort and exposure to us unwashed pervs. 
If OF and other platforms had gone "clean" then we might've seen a return of working girls but the great bane for us RL connoisseurs are the droves of virtual wankers with too much money in their pockets.

At the moment it really does feel like London is cleaving between Roms and Dominicans/Colombians, though the latter are generally more reliable/friendly.

[lillythesavage]

What I am finding is that I'm having to travel further afield (in London) and do more research at home and on the fly beforehand, the combination of the two is quite onerous.

Been having a look round and research, and you are right, it is time consuming and gets boring, I have tired of the regulars and chasing new ones from the other sites though can still call on them.
I doubt I will turn it in, but after 5 years separated and sort of enjoying single life, the mind is tiring of it.

[Marmalade]

Sorry to hear you're having a tough time of finding newbies Smiths. I am guessing that women already established in the business that have not been frightened off by the covid have come to terms with things on a realistic business basis. Possibly harder for those thinking of entering it.

[stevedave]

It's not just your area smiths, it's fucking shite everywhere at the moment.

Prices are way too high and standards are way too low.

Pisses me off that people are obviously paying the stupid rates, thereby making it less likely they will "normalise".

It's a bloody good job there is a phalanx of free porn just a few clicks away!

[Arch]

I can report the same situation happening around my area also (SW19 / Wimbledon)

Since the easing of lockdown I have constantly searched around in the Wimbledon / Kingston / Putney / Clapham Junction area. Good choices are slim, service of those I tried are pretty average (had only one or 2 better experiences), and most SP's don't respond to my messages on a timely manner i.e. some of them text me back the next day, when my window of opportunity was long gone. While most don't even text back.

[JamesKW]

I don't blame you. Punting really is in a shit state in my area at present. I am the nearest I have ever been to jacking it in.

Why not take the opportunity to spend some money on other stuff like take in a few gigs (plenty of decent ones about at the moment) whilst there is a lull.I must admit I was sad when mature Anna retired,although I am still optimistc she may return as her AW profile hasnt been entirely erased.

[smiths]

What I am finding is that I'm having to travel further afield (in London) and do more research at home and on the fly beforehand, the combination of the two is quite onerous.

Indeed, and I cant be bothered travelling far for a punt, now lack of petrol is in the mix for me.

[smiths]

Why not take the opportunity to spend some money on other stuff like take in a few gigs (plenty of decent ones about at the moment) whilst there is a lull.I must admit I was sad when mature Anna retired,although I am still optimistc she may return as her AW profile hasnt been entirely erased.

I am seeing a civvie and put some money in that direction. As to Anna I do hope she makes a return.

[Punterperson1971]

It’s shit in Walsall area at minute only regular girls who I’ve seen, her not many decent new ones around that’s why I’ve been sticking to a regular I see once twice a month instead until something decent comes  up

[aberg3]

Government insiders say Boris is considering sending the army in to deal with this further supply chain crisis

[luv2kiss54]

Exactly why i have turned to Seeking although you do need to have deeper  pockets than i possess.

[luv2kiss54]

Nearly 45 years in and your post has made a decision for me, been considering a relationship with a certain Lady for a couple of years now, ever since I met her at her husbands funeral a couple of years back. Though they were no longer an item, her third husband met his maker before the second.

She jokingly calls herself the black widow, I am the only one still kicking,  Time to see if it will work.

Blimey check any food she prepares for you before you eat it 

[Straightsix]

One day when the health benefits become apparent, ejaculation will be prescribed all inclusive for a 'prescription fee'.
And on the contrary,  I'm having the best punting year so far than I have ever had in decades. Have met some quality girls.
Sorry.

[lillythesavage]

Blimey check any food she prepares for you before you eat it 

Lol, Still the only virgin I have fucked, surely she will not do her first love in 

[puntingpumping1920]

London is popping

New blood every week 🩸

So many choices 🥴

[Payyourwaymate]

London is popping

New blood every week 🩸

So many choices 🥴

Bro, you punt in a niche environment of pricey agencies now; so there are plenty choices  . I think at your spending level for WGs the whole concept of there are no choices no longer applies. For the average punter on a budget it is dire times. Good value providers are vanishing and all that is left is overcharging noobs with no reliable track record or the ones still left that have rep are difficult to contact as they are fully booked according to other members, or they jacked up their prices. I've said many times in the past we are slowly reaching a point that the average budget punter will get priced out. For example, I'm a cheapskate punter right.... majority of the Bhouses I used to go to are closed bar 1 and have all moved up to north london, they have also increased their prices. It's dire times for me LOL.

[sparkus]

London is popping

New blood every week 🩸

So many choices 🥴

This point was actually apparent to me twice in the past week when I travelled outside London for work to the home counties and after the meetings pulled up AW before heading to the train station.  Granted they were small towns but seriously zero doing.

[_Bender_]

So having been punting for over 35 years I find myself sick of the mainly shit WGs in my area of London at present. I have a number of excellent regulars but do like a good newbie to me. Problem is they are severely lacking at present, and especially at a good to me price.

I have met a civvie and apart from the regs have sticked with her for a while now. Covid has done my punting no favours that's for sure and many new WGs are charging vastly to me high prices to start off with. Of course a WG can charge what she likes, as I choose what to pay.

I have never seen A/W worse in my area of North London, and been using it for many years. I hope things will improve over time. For the first time I can recall I have put more effort into finding a good civvie than a WG.

Jezzzz … sorry Smiths my man, no disrespect but you lot in London village do make me laugh … shiiiiiet, you’ve got loads of hoe’z to choose from, far greater than most other region’s, and don’t forget the tourers also and you just moan!

[pythondan]

There is not much choice available around me. Eight years ago I had three fantastic regulars plus decent newbies and tourers and the problems was choosing which to meet.

Nowadays there is only one girl in the area that I quite like but she is not as good as my previous regs and aside from her the odd decent tourist floating through every few months.

This issue is compounded by having to share a car with my partner as we could not justify two during the pandemic. This makes travelling to punts harder than before.

[Longshot]

Strangely i had a reasonable 2020 even with covid restrictions.  I was hoping 2021 would bounce back to precious heights but this year has been dreadful.  Loads of long term profiles and guaranteed plan Cs have dissappeared, standard prices are now the same as top end 2 years ago and top end prices now can just fuck right off.

Punting is no longer good value for money, there must be a drop off in punters but the girls dont seem to be reacting to market forces

[JayEZ2K]

The last couple of girls I’ve seen have moaned about the prices of hotels going up significantly and I’m wondering if that’s why all the touring girls have stopped coming into central london...

That's a good point. I don't know about London, but it's been a problem in East England. Tourers who I asked to return said the flats were too expensive at the moment, and others who did show up also complained about prices increasing. One for example said the flat was previously £80 per night, and now increased to £100 per night. So if accommodation prices improve, that will at least be one factor which will help punting. But I don't know if anything is happening that will actually improve any factors for punting.

If someone has a master plan to improve the punting ecosystem, I'll do my part.

[Bopcrown]

Thinks thats bs.
Prices in Manchester now match London and the overheads are lower.
I think they are all seeing other girls move their prices and following suit.
Until Aldi get into the whoring game thats the way it will stay

Go to Aldi for potatos, Check out with a 15 minute special and a scuba suit. End up with a massive queue behind you as people say don't bang at the tills, use the shelf behind them.

[surreyvisitor]

I have barely punted in four years and I have a week to myself for the first time in 18 months.  I should be excitedly looking, but I have steadily lost interest over the last few years and it only seems to have got worse now.

All I literally want is for a nice English girl to do massage and hand relief for a reasonable price.  All I see on AW is Roms and my experience with those has been laughably bad in the past.

I do wonder if all the English girls are doing camming or only fans.   The few remaining ones have put their prices up so much that I am just not prepared to pay it.

I am seriously thinking this could be it for me, the only one I am interested in at the moment is Mistress Rose Wood and that is almost a bucket list thing.   

[sparkus]

I personally think the market's mutating - I'm not getting any decent leads on recces to TCMs which means I haven't devoured a decent minge in months, I'm also not finding much doing on AW that's within my price range.

What IS working out better is patrolling Viva Street (Vulva Street, more like!) and being prepared to walk but also lapping up which opportunities arise.  The problem is ads pop up then get taken down quickly plus info can be shit ie. it's advertised as Postcode A but really in Postcode B so you need to sit on a packed bus for 20 mins.  After a few months I've sussed the key locations and am now familiar in a few places, absolutely no hard feelings on walking but staying is usually very well rewarded.

[bedhedred]

I personally think the market's mutating - I'm not getting any decent leads on recces to TCMs which means I haven't devoured a decent minge in months, I'm also not finding much doing on AW that's within my price range.

What IS working out better is patrolling Viva Street (Vulva Street, more like!) and being prepared to walk but also lapping up which opportunities arise.  The problem is ads pop up then get taken down quickly plus info can be shit ie. it's advertised as Postcode A but really in Postcode B so you need to sit on a packed bus for 20 mins.  After a few months I've sussed the key locations and am now familiar in a few places, absolutely no hard feelings on walking but staying is usually very well rewarded.

What areas is vs giving you? It's all fake photos and outcallers so how do you choose who to see, or is it all down to location? I get responses from around half of the texts sent and there's plenty of them in Tower Hamlets and Newham but it's off putting to think of the long journey to a possible walk out.

[sparkus]

What areas is vs giving you? It's all fake photos and outcallers so how do you choose who to see, or is it all down to location? I get responses from around half of the texts sent and there's plenty of them in Tower Hamlets and Newham but it's off putting to think of the long journey to a possible walk out.

You have to search by postcode (and also know the blind spots, for instance Stratford is split between Stratford itself (which often brings up ads from other areas eg. Plaistow) and then separate results for Pudding Mill Lane and Temple Mills), plus the first pages tend to be outcallers, as you say.

I notice the Latin houses seem to pay VS more to have their ads come up in the first few pages of results, though they don't stay up long

[bedhedred]

You have to search by postcode (and also know the blind spots, for instance Stratford is split between Stratford itself (which often brings up ads from other areas eg. Plaistow) and then separate results for Pudding Mill Lane and Temple Mills), plus the first pages tend to be outcallers, as you say.

I notice the Latin houses seem to pay VS more to have their ads come up in the first few pages of results, though they don't stay up long

Do you generally find that the girl behind the door looks anything like the photos? Or she looks different but still acceptable? Do you generally walk away because of looks or the refusal to do certain things?

[sparkus]

Do you generally find that the girl behind the door looks anything like the photos? Or she looks different but still acceptable? Do you generally walk away because of looks or the refusal to do certain things?

It is if it's a well known WG like Sammy (accurate pics but better IRL) but a lot of the time it isn't but it's a house and you can just have a look at who's working that day and choose from several WGs so it doesn't really matter up front.

Had a weird encounter recently where ad photo was but I'd rocked up to see someone else, the actual WG herself scrubbed up OK but had amazing arse and chebs so I saw her instead and thoroughly enjoyed myself (there was no hard feelings but definitely a hard cock )

[bedhedred]

It is if it's a well known WG like Sammy (accurate pics but better IRL) but a lot of the time it isn't but it's a house and you can just have a look at who's working that day and choose from several WGs so it doesn't really matter up front.

Had a weird encounter recently where ad photo was but I'd rocked up to see someone else, the actual WG herself scrubbed up OK but had amazing arse and chebs so I saw her instead and thoroughly enjoyed myself (there was no hard feelings but definitely a hard cock )

Momodan wrote something similar a while ago.
I did a couple of of look and walks in Stratford. In fact both girls were acceptable or pretty, but no service beyond the basics.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=314965.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=314964.0

Another two b&s. Average looking. I wasted 60 quid each trying them out.
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[sparkus]

Momodan wrote something similar a while ago.
I did a couple of of look and walks in Stratford. In fact both girls were acceptable or pretty, but no service beyond the basics.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=314965.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=314964.0

Another two b&s. Average looking. I wasted 60 quid each trying them out.
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External Link/Members Only

Saw an EE in Stratford recently from VS, ad seems to appear and disappear, now long gone.  Actually the girl in pics but no make up on that day and pics disguised or didn't show her spare tyre.  Was actually naturally pretty without make up and had enormous chebs, fucked me as hard as I fucked her etc. I did nearly walk on seeing the spare tyre but forgave it and glad I stayed.

[billybobsmith]

I've been trying for the last couple of days to make a booking.
95% of the women in my area I wouldn't touch with someone else's bargepole due to being fake profiles, bad reviews here, or no reviews at all.  Others in their 50s or 60s, or they all work randomly in the same 1 or 2 parlours, in two different towns/cities, that I won't visit (well, probably about 15 actually active on AW in the last few weeks, and 2 of them have bareback listed, so off the list)
A lot of £150ish prices that are well above what I would pay for them as well.

"Available today", "logged in today", phone number displayed etc. and 1 response this morning (from a message yesterday afternoon) and she works in a parlour 9:30am-6pm. 
Did have a hotel stay last night that I thought I would take advantage of, but near zero response for 2 days with nice messages asking about availability as I wished to make a booking.
(Even tried Tinder but apparently 0 women within 100 miles of me between 18-39 were on last night)

Having to consider travelling an hour each way to get some sort of selection, assuming of course any will respond to book in the first place.

I've got a night in London next week, and had a quick look, but most look like Instagram fake lips, lashes etc. clones, and wouldn't even know where to start.  SA is worse.

SA I might rejoin, although my card all hate them and refuse any payments to them.

[dubhcarr]

It's still an issue Mr Smiths lots of decent sps  gone and shite current sps overpriced. I note that that the polish and Russian spsw are are pushing for another £20 ph on top of the post Covid rises. I'm not punting so much ATM I can wait until value returns. Just like I'm not eating out so often. Cash is king ATM so my hard earned is staying put unless I see a review highlighting a sp who puts in a shift and earns the fee I'm prepared to pay. 

[lamboman]

Cash is king ATM so my hard earned is staying put unless I see a review highlighting a sp who puts in a shift and earns the fee I'm prepared to pay. 

I think this is the way forward,I met an SP twice this week because she was first class.
There's too many chancers ATM,I'm going to stick with those with a fair price point and almost perfect reviews here.

[Bangers and Gash]

Government insiders say Boris is considering sending the army in to deal with this further supply chain crisis

Each to their own, but I doubt punting a stocking clad squaddie is what smiths had in mind.