BDSM and Kink/fetish services..

[Mr_Shins]

I decided to start a topic here on it. There was one from about 18 months ago but that was very negative towards it, and this is intended to be positive, for those of us who are punting for weird fantasies and not simply for vanilla sex.

Please do not "troll" this topic. If you're not into this kind of thing, and I know that's most of you, please just don't post here.

It IS a big part of "punting" and certainly many of the "categories" on Adultwork fall into it.
There are many women who often refer to themselves as a "mistress" who offer these services in exchange for money. And there are men like me who pay them money for it - obviously or they wouldn't have any business. Many of them deny they are sex workers as they don't have sex with their clients, but I believe that any of us who partake are getting some kind of kinky sexual thrill from it.

There are some who offer sexual relief or even full sex as well. Many in fact offer some kind of sexual relief.

It is my belief that we are in a world of consenting adults and as long as both parties agree and it is safe, anything goes.

The purpose of this topic is really for those who seek fetish / BDSM / fantasies other than just sex to discuss how we find punting on the whole. Ideally I think it would be nice to have a separate "review" section for this kind of punt where we can name and either praise or shame the "mistresses" involved based upon our experiences.

(Maybe if there is no room for a forum, one topic in the general Reviews section)

As for me - well I think it's already well known that I like a woman to kick me...

[Discord]

I've done quite a lot of domination style punting over the years with myself in the submissive role.  I always find it pretty difficult to find an attractive woman with a good profile on Adultwork that actually offers domination and indeed one that isn't just a time waster. 

One thing that I've always found a bit funny about this aspect of punting is that the women will often charge more for it than the escorts that are offering full sex do.  Where as if anything you would think it should be a bit cheaper than your average GFE style booking seeing that sex and oral and such in most cases aren't involved.  I suppose it is down to the fact that as there are less quality women offering this service they know we don't have much choice so they feel they can get away with charging a higher price.  I suppose you could also argue that this kind of session requires more thought and planning for the woman than a regular GFE style booking would entail but still I think the prices for the domination style bookings are often too high.  Although I'm in a position where the prices aren't really a problem for me personally I can see them being off putting for others especially if it is someone who is looking to experiment with this kind of thing for the first time and aren't even sure if it is something they'll enjoy.         

[Mr_Shins]

Thank you for the reply. I was hoping that there were some others on here who are interested in this too.

I have also found that the prices for BDSM are often higher, and I don't think they should be.

Sometimes the "dominatrix" woman claims that she has the extra expense of a "dungeon" and equipment. I myself do not require a "dungeon" or any special equipment although I can understand that many of their clients would. I have come across a few who advertise that they only use domestic settings, and also that they prefer to wear normal outfits, and those are the ones most to my liking. One of those however does have a very high price - I met her once a number of years ago, I think her prices have gone up since then.

There is a lot of skill involved in this too - I guess there is in both types of provider, and so hopefully ukp could honestly help us sort the better ones from the worse ones. With regards my favourite activity - kicking - there are surprisingly very few that can really deliver a good kick to the balls. It's far more about accuracy than power, and it's important that the legs do not shield the blow.

With what you say about there being fewer who offer it, there are also far fewer of us who want to receive it, so I guess on a supply and demand level, they need to balance. Those who do like to really feel "set" in what they do.

I once suggested on a forum that they could offer "taster" quickies. Very short sessions that would offer activities like caning or kicking in the balls. Enough to inflict some decent pain, and affordable enough for those who are curious. My idea got thrown back as them not liking the idea of a "conveyor belt" - i.e. lots of different people popping in and out. However I could foresee a fair amount of business that way and making a decent about of money to help support their business model, and it may hook people into longer sessions later.

[hungrypunt]

I once suggested on a forum that they could offer "taster" quickies. Very short sessions that would offer activities like caning or kicking in the balls. Enough to inflict some decent pain, and affordable enough for those who are curious. My idea got thrown back as them not liking the idea of a "conveyor belt" - i.e. lots of different people popping in and out. However I could foresee a fair amount of business that way and making a decent about of money to help support their business model, and it may hook people into longer sessions later.

Most business models work this way, and probably the "dominatrix" " mistress" etc that adopt it would reap rewards.

As for myself, I believe whatever anyone is into is up to them as long as both parties get reward/pleasure from it and no one gets seriously hurt.
For instance, I have met in civvie life a few real true subs that want dominanting, now before I had experienced this I felt is was all pretty much bollocks, but as we know its true, people do enjoy it.

When Im browsing AW or anywhere and I see the dom women or mistress X I just think, nah, I cant believe people want to pay for having that service. But horses for courses. The ones that make me laugh are the "paypig" fetish, I could not in a million years imagine that, but it goes on.

Good luck with the thread, I hope it takes off.

[timsussex]

This year I've dabbled with bdsm - trying both sides
 so far  I have  failed to find a good domme who can also offer good sex

The really good dommes just don't offer sexual services - other than hand relief

[binbag]

I too would like to add my support for this thread. I visit both Dommes and escorts but my ideal is a Domme who doesn't go along with the usual "nothing sexual" position taken by so many Dommes. I don't enjoy severe pain but I do enjoy being teased and seduced and feeling humiliated and used. My feeling is that nudity, kissing, hand jobs, blow jobs, pussy worship, full sex etc can all be part of a session in a way that maintains the dominance of the female but most Dommes do not go along with this. Of those who do, in my 40 yrs experience, I have only met a few who I would consider both physically attractive and affordable. 

In general Dommes in the UK and Europe are a bit more 'liberal' than the US but my two favourites are both American.. One is long retired, Mistress Renee of Philadelphia, and the other does not advertise that sex is a possibility so I don't want to reveal her name. (Having seen her a few times the sessions became more sexual) 

I visit UK a few times a year and always take in a session or two, hoping to find the elusive 'sexual Domme' but have met with only limited success. Mistress Kristina J of Huddersfield sounds great but I have read that her pics are heavily photoshopped so I'm a little apprehensive (and Huddersfield is quite a distance from where I usually stay). I usually have to use public transport which also limits me somewhat. If this thread develops perhaps it'll become a source of recommendation (either public or private) so I look forward to its success.

Thanks for starting it.   

[chrishornx]

This year I've dabbled with bdsm - trying both sides
 so far  I have  failed to find a good domme who can also offer good sex

The really good dommes just don't offer sexual services - other than hand relief

perhaps you have identified the cause of your own predicament.  As you state that 'really good domes just don't offer sexual services' it would hardly be surprising that you have' failed to find a good dom who can also offer good sex'

however I would have to agree as I know a great Dom in Preston who also offers impeccable sex

 

[cambsguy]

I like BDSM and most punts now involve some of this. I rarely see 'proper doms' though. I generally find them a bit stuck up themselves, plus am not into dressing up or being made to sit in a corner and lick shoes with no sexual content or nudity. My preference is for the 'girl next door', in fact someone that is a bit inexperienced is perfect. Maybe this is because I tend to just like the pain aspect rather than the dressing up.

For me I like to have a bit of a laugh, almost like I am doing this with a partner. As I have a foot fetish it often starts off with that, bare feet and heels trampling my body and genitals, happy with a bit of kicking (and punching too). Will often finish off over feet.

For the BDSM part it is normally CBT and strap on, although tend to prefer home made torture rather than elaborate devices. Things inserted in the urethra could include pens or make up sticks or cotton buds. Proper hypodermics are good for piercing but safety pins will often do the job.

I remember a girl I saw in Cambridge, probably around 15 years ago. She was early 20s and just a normal looking but attractive girl with a nice personality. Looked great in boots! She would do anything I asked pain wise and since then have seen a number who I have introduced to needle play. Most seem happy to do this and in fact are quite intrigued by it and I think quite like something away from the norm.

Both Hannah Banks and Toni in East Anglia have been happy to provide this type of service.

[lovemachine]

I have barely tried this kind of service and would like to try more as vanilla just doesnt seem to be enough but agree that most are very expensive which puts me off. I dont think they are that hard to find on AW,even the ones including normal full service.

[Mr_Shins]

It is nice to see so many responses here, and cambsguy even has similar likes to mine.

For me, I am far more turned on if the woman dresses "normally". The "girl next door" image indeed, but what does that mean, exactly? For me, it means the woman you pass in the street or see in a shop or on the bus / tube. Not all of them, but there are always a few you find "cute".

Then there is the smart office worker. I used to see a lot of those in my previous job and my requests were often based around that.

I also find an outdoor meet more kinky. Have coffee with me or a drink in a pub whilst kicking me under the table... See one of my previous reviews. Of course, it is nice to then have somewhere private to go for stuff you can't do in public. Longer meets can work better than short meets for that purpose, although I have found 1.5 hours can be adequate.

[Miketyson21]

I like BDSM and most punts now involve some of this. I rarely see 'proper doms' though. I generally find them a bit stuck up themselves, plus am not into dressing up or being made to sit in a corner and lick shoes with no sexual content or nudity. My preference is for the 'girl next door', in fact someone that is a bit inexperienced is perfect. Maybe this is because I tend to just like the pain aspect rather than the dressing up.

For me I like to have a bit of a laugh, almost like I am doing this with a partner. As I have a foot fetish it often starts off with that, bare feet and heels trampling my body and genitals, happy with a bit of kicking (and punching too). Will often finish off over feet.

For the BDSM part it is normally CBT and strap on, although tend to prefer home made torture rather than elaborate devices. Things inserted in the urethra could include pens or make up sticks or cotton buds. Proper hypodermics are good for piercing but safety pins will often do the job.

I remember a girl I saw in Cambridge, probably around 15 years ago. She was early 20s and just a normal looking but attractive girl with a nice personality. Looked great in boots! She would do anything I asked pain wise and since then have seen a number who I have introduced to needle play. Most seem happy to do this and in fact are quite intrigued by it and I think quite like something away from the norm.

Both Hannah Banks and Toni in East Anglia have been happy to provide this type of service.

Hi all,

Do you know if Hannah Banks provides domination services...?

cheers

[cambsguy]

Hi all,

Do you know if Hannah Banks provides domination services...?

cheers

She did for me but guess it depends on your idea of domination - she was happy to stand on my cock and also to use safety pins in my cock.

[Jimmyredcab]

In my opinion if a Dominatrix does not have suitable premises/equipment then she is not a true Dominatrix -------- she is simply a hooker with a whip.

A fully equipped dungeon costs thousands of pounds to set up and you will be charged accordingly, this lady has the best purpose built dungeon in London, sadly she is outside of my budget but I did see her when her prices were more affordable.

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[Jimmyredcab]

She did for me but guess it depends on your idea of domination - she was happy to stand on my cock and also to use safety pins in my cock.

Which shows she is clueless.     

You are supposed to use hypodermic needles that come in sealed packets.   

[Miketyson21]

She did for me but guess it depends on your idea of domination - she was happy to stand on my cock and also to use safety pins in my cock.

I would just like to be punched in the stomach and made to crawl around.

Do you think Hannah Banks could do that?

[Mr_Shins]

In my opinion if a Dominatrix does not have suitable premises/equipment then she is not a true Dominatrix -------- she is simply a hooker with a whip.

A fully equipped dungeon costs thousands of pounds to set up and you will be charged accordingly, this lady has the best purpose built dungeon in London, sadly she is outside of my budget but I did see her when her prices were more affordable.

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Your opinion is too out of the book stereotypical. But then so is the term "dominatrix". So maybe you are right, but maybe we are not all looking for a "dominatrix", just someone who enjoys "fetish play" the same way that we do.

All I need the woman to have is the clothes and shoes she would probably wear every day. It's what she does to me that matters. A couple of chairs can be adequate as equipment.

And why should I have to pay £200 an hour or whatever for some well-equipped dungeon?

"Hooker with a whip" is a term or similar to a term I saw quoted in the UKE topic.

If only there were more women who knew they could please me (and others) with "silly" fetish stuff without requiring them to undress and open themselves, a lot more would provide the service for a decent price.

Now, as this is a punting forum, let's get our heads together and work out how we can get more women to provide this service at a price we think is more sensible... Those who don't want to provide sex or see themselves as sex workers.

[fettish008]

I love using a ball gag.

[TheCape]

I've dabbled in this in the past and shall follow this thread with interest. I certainly would like to know if more local girls offer this service.

[lovemachine]

I have seen this lady that tours to london for reasonable prices and sometimes with special offers as well, External Link/Members Only .She is very accomplished and I know she does alot more extreme stuff than on her current profile.

[Mr_Shins]

mkhelen is actually the one I am currently trying to book. She sent me back a message yesterday but I also get a lot of auto-reply messages. Her phone number is not listed today so I cannot phone her even though she says that is the best communication method.

[od13218]

Thanks OP- interesting thread. Long been an interest of mine and I've fluctuated between vanilla punting and BDSM meets. Originally I preferred BDSM-only meets as being married I found it easier to handle sessions with no sex - and it was a strong need I felt that was not going to happen at home. I've been down some pretty hard-core paths, including feminisation, being taken to parties and used as a slut, TS dommes, "forced" bi etc.
However as sex at home dwindled I explored the world of vanilla punting. I'm now at the stage where I would also like to find someone who offers both- but so far my experience has been that those who offer sex are too mild with the domination.
I remember reading about Mistress Carly (IIRC) in Kent, who did "proper" domination and sex, but haven't yet had the opportunity to visit. Meanwhile very good to share ideas here- keep em coming!

[Jimmyredcab]

I remember reading about Mistress Carly (IIRC) in Kent, who did "proper" domination and sex, but haven't yet had the opportunity to visit. Meanwhile very good to share ideas here- keep em coming!

Far too expensive at £250 an hour.   

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The London Retreat is far batter value at £100 for 30 minutes on non stop action.     

[od13218]

Far too expensive at £250 an hour.   

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The London Retreat is far batter value at £100 for 30 minutes on non stop action.     

Ah- thanks for the link: it may have been the price that put me off in fact! How much is an hour at the London Retreat? Does the action include sex?

[Jimmyredcab]

Ah- thanks for the link: it may have been the price that put me off in fact! How much is an hour at the London Retreat? Does the action include sex?

One hour is £200 ----------- the same rate as 10 years ago.   

Yes, personal services are included, one girl does not allow penetration (Lisa).

No advance bookings, same day phone bookings taken from 10am.

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[DannyJames]

Far too expensive at £250 an hour.   

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I'm sure I read that she offered bareback in the past 

Aside from that, she must be about 108 now.

[Davidj]

Hi interested in this topic - am open to trying this. Am trying to arrange with mk Helen.  Are there any others people recommend ?

Thanks

[bigmanbigman]

What the going rate for a hour of these serviced £200 plus or more ?

[od13218]

What the going rate for a hour of these serviced £200 plus or more ?

Depends. I know a few who charge 150-180 people hour. For example Mistress Dionne and the others who work at her dungeon near Kings Cross (160ph); Madame Caramel (similar I think
But it's been a while so may have gone up). I've also been to a couple of TS dommes who charge 150.

[Mkhelen]

Hello all

Sorry unfortunately xmas holidays can be a difficult time of year to communicate when round family

Auto response is only switched on when I'm not working

Let's hope we can get this resolved swiftly

Thank you
Helen x

mkhelen is actually the one I am currently trying to book. She sent me back a message yesterday but I also get a lot of auto-reply messages. Her phone number is not listed today so I cannot phone her even though she says that is the best communication method.

[Knobhead]

Hmmmmm, I actually tried out my first even dom session on the last day of 2016! The mistress doesn't have a review here, and I have a feeling she wants to be very discrete so I won't reveal her here. Single mum got nosy neighbours :p

[destiny2016uk]

Good Thread - As previosly mentioned, this forum should have it's own BDSM section.

Since i started Punting 18 months ago, i've always been interested in the Dom side of the Industry rather than Full or Vanilla Sex.

That said, i'm not after any heavy domination so i've been using WG Escorts rather than Dominatrix Mistresses.

I'd be interested to know how people chose their WG for these services. I find that East London/Essex reviews on UKP rarely feature any Domination Services so I tend to chose a WG if they emphasize their Domination service in their profile rather thna just listing it in their Likes List. That said, any escort who also has a kink for PVC is a big turn-on for me.

[shdh]

My girlfriend is a former prodomme. She only occasionally takes a gig now, when it suits us both.

Before her I saw a lot of 'dommes' from AW etc and they were almost universally trash. I get the feeling a lot of girls see a more vanilla guy who is happy with a little slap and tickle and then they comvince themselves they are the real deal. The worst are the ones who put the prices up for a 'bdsm' session over a regular session and then give you the same experience as nirmal but with a blindfold or some shit.

[myothernameis]

There one escort in the Glasgow area, who offers a variety of sexual services, and al though she is not a dominatrix, she does provide services which come under bdsm, and gfe or even a mixture

By all accounts she is very popular with punters, maybe its because she offers, something that you like

[Mr_Shins]

Well I am going to see mkhelen now, and she managed to work out who I am on A/W too, possibly because I had PM'ed her a few times. I had a nice conversation with her too and she knows some of the people I have met in the past who do that kind of thing.

So I am very hopeful we'll get on and we'll see what kind of review she gets from me after the session, but obviously I want it to be a positive one... And for me to be very sore afterwards.

[tesla]

Well I am going to see mkhelen now, and she managed to work out who I am on A/W too, possibly because I had PM'ed her a few times. I had a nice conversation with her too and she knows some of the people I have met in the past who do that kind of thing.

So I am very hopeful we'll get on and we'll see what kind of review she gets from me after the session, but obviously I want it to be a positive one... And for me to be very sore afterwards.

good luck, saw her years ago and it was one of my all time best punts

[Davidj]

Well I am going to see mkhelen now, and she managed to work out who I am on A/W too, possibly because I had PM'ed her a few times. I had a nice conversation with her too and she knows some of the people I have met in the past who do that kind of thing.

So I am very hopeful we'll get on and we'll see what kind of review she gets from me after the session, but obviously I want it to be a positive one... And for me to be very sore afterwards.

Please let us know how it goes she is on my hit list following these discussions