"Elite" escorts

[cueball]

Well said dani

[CardiffCentral]

Pretty much agree with Mr. Jones and Norman. 

Usually when a service is described as being 'elite', it is also 'expensive'. That does not automatically mean it's a rip off, which in itself is entirely relative.  The oft used phrase; 'You get what you pay for' is still relevant when you move further up the price range. 

But what about the law of diminishing returns?  Well that's rather more interesting, as is what exactly constitutes as being 'reasonable value'?  It depends on the service provided of course, and also the amount of time and cost.  Those things are obvious.  So £100 for an hour of intermittent and enjoyable sex resulting in orgasm in a room with a bed would be considered a reasonable price in exchange for a satisfactory service.

But what about £1000 for one hour?  Or perhaps even £10,000 for a day or a week?  You will soon find that it's your own limitations that make such an exchange completely unfeasible.  You may find that you don't have the resources to get the most out of the time you have with your escort.  And if all you want is a peace of meat, £1000 simply doesn't make sense. 

We live in a world of multi million pound car collections, trust fund billionaires and a huge global financial industry creating wealth out of thin air.  It is absolutely reasonable to assume that there are escorts who only cater to high net worth individuals.  I couldn't afford to hire one.  I simply couldn't afford her services and she wouldn't want to spend time with me even if I managed to scrape some money together to pay for a single hour.  I know this because I've tried with two such women and both of them politely declined.  One actually promised to keep me in mind if she ever starts accepting new clients and that was the last I heard from her. 

And in all honesty I don't blame her. I don't have my own jet, I'm not constantly flying around the globe and I don't know that many interesting people.  I don't even own a yacht or my own mansion.  To someone who's used to spending time with such people, it would be of no benefit to them to spend time with me.  I suppose most of what they do involves relationship building and networking.  Not every working girl can do that, it's not something a Phd can teach you either. 

This entire subject is moot if you believe that showing any sort of emotion at all makes you fluffy and that there's no such thing as an 'elite' punter/escort relationship beyond your AW/£100ph paradigm.  Punting is far, far more nuanced than what it is being made out to be on here. 

[Dave2014]

The rich client gets the same service as the working class client . . .
 
Some of us have an education seeing as you had to throw the university part in.  Some of us can converse on many levels and are at home in various social settings.  We don't have to charge stupidly high prices to justify what we do as a job . . .

At the end of the day regardless of if we have been to the theatre or the opera or eaten at McDonalds and went to the cinema with a client we all have sex for money . . .

No matter what they charge they are prostitutes . . .

People who book these women are those who are a little deluded and have convinced themselves that what the prossies tell them is right . . .

At the end of the day if you get a convincing girlfriend experience then those who pay the lower prices get exactly the same experience for a much lower sum of money . . .

And there you have it. A very well reasoned and credible response from Dani, a very valued member of UKP.

Did you notice, Dani's response contained NONE of the following TOUTING bollocks this Bree121 spouted:

(1) "I have loads of clients",
(2) "I'm 'Elite' and too expensive for you"
(3) "I'm on this list or that list"
(4) "Clients pay me because of the holistic experience and they then become part of a higher social strata"
(5) "UKP is not even my market because I am above you all"

Some of us have probably been punting longer than you have been alive Bree121 - we have seen and heard it all before. Thank you for presuming to enlighten us and speak on our behalves even though you are out of our league. What utter contemptuous and deluded twaddle. Come back when you are a little more experienced and able to reason. In the same way that (a) genuine members of UKP are, and (b) (in addition to being a genuine UKP member) a credible, reasoned and thoughtful WG like Dani is able to be.

[CardiffCentral]

And there you have it. A very well reasoned and credible response from Dani, a very valued member of UKP.

Did you notice, Dani's response contained NONE of the following TOUTING bollocks this Bree121 spouted:

(1) "I have loads of clients",
(2) "I'm 'Elite' and too expensive for you"
(3) "I'm on this list or that list"
(4) "Clients pay me because of the holistic experience and they then become part of a higher social strata"
(5) "UKP is not even my market because I am above you all"

Some of us have probably been punting longer than you have been alive Bree121 - we have seen and heard it all before. Thank you for presuming to enlighten us and speak on our behalves even though you are out of our league. What utter contemptuous and deluded twaddle. Come back when you are a little more experienced and able to reason. In the same way that (a) genuine members of UKP are, and (b) (in addition to being a genuine UKP member) a credible, reasoned and thoughtful WG like Dani is able to be.

Stop white knighting you fluffy ****.  etc. etc. 

[Private Parts]

Pretty much agree with Mr. Jones and Norman.  ......
Bollocks...bollocks...bollocks...
.......  Punting is far, far more nuanced than what it is being made out to be on here.

Actually the smart Prossie understands what her market will stand. As Dani said it is what  the WG puts into it and is comfortable offering.
Pure and simple. If there are muppets who believe they are in a different class let them waste their money.
All the £££ in china will not stop them. It is money for sex.
 

[Dave2014]

Stop white knighting you fluffy ****.  etc. etc.

Yes. I'm very well known on here for being fluffy. You have zero credibility. Ad hominem tosh because your nonsense has been exposed, by consensus, for what it is.

[CardiffCentral]

So basically those of us at the lower price range cannot possibly have exceptional social skills or offer longer bookings that contain a genuine believable girlfriend experience as we are just pieces of meat 

You may have exceptional social skills, but your price would suggest those are not on offer in your service.  Are you restricting part of your service or are you underselling your services? 

Just because I choose to have lower prices does not mean in any way at all that some of my clients are not from the higher classes.  I have many who are.  They book women not on their prices but on who they choose to see.  So I share clients with the 'elite' girls even if they are unaware of it.. 

Being from a 'higher social class' does not automatically mean you're looking for an 'elite' experience.  Most men vary their punts, that's what makes it so much fun. 

However I also choose to set my prices so that the average working man can afford me as well.  It doesn't change the experience.  The rich client gets the same service as the working class client. 

And some escorts prefer to have more control over who they see.  I'm excluding agencies here as that's a different debate and indeed is simply paying a middle man for marketing services. 

To think that those of us who choose to charge a lower rate are pieces of meat that just have a sex with dozens of men everyday is rather simplistic and blinkered thinking.

Puntico thinks you're a piece of meat regardless of how much you charge or who you choose to see. 

we don't all work with a queue of men outside our door. 

No, some do and some don't.  Charging 10p an hour will mean you'll be spending a lot of time with a very suspect group of clients as opposed to charging £5000 an hour.  Two extremes of course, but the point is obvious. 

Some of us only work a couple of hours a day seeing one or two clients.  Some of us have an education seeing as you had to throw the university part in.  Some of us can converse on many levels and are at home in various social settings.  We don't have to charge stupidly high prices to justify what we do as a job.  At the end of the day regardless of if we have been to the theatre or the opera or eaten at McDonalds and went to the cinema with a client we all have sex for money.  Higher charges do not guarantee a better quality booking.  It does not guarantee the female will be able to fit into all social settings.  It does not even guarantee that she does not speak like a trucker or a fishwife.  It just means they feel the need to charge more to justify having sex with men they are not interested in. 

Of course charging more alone doesn't guarantee success.  As you say, escorts are all different.  The market decides if the price you charge is right for your service.  Are you deliberately underselling you services?  If so, why?

No matter what they charge they are prostitutes. 

So?  We know not all adult service providers are the same. 

You don't know you are the only person she has seen that day.  She may have a few partners and be having sex with them all.  I know a couple of 'elite' prossies who charge a fortune yet work in a parlour during the day charging normal average rates  and having sex with 8-10 men a day before going off to be 'elite' at night.  People who book these women are those who are a little deluded and have convinced themselves that what the prossies tell them is right.  That they are not available to many so they will be the only person that day.  Its for their own egos as they think they are better than other punters as they get women the lower classes cant afford not realising a few of them work in parlours at much lower rates during the day.  As faces are always blurred or cropped no one is wise to it as those who pay the high prices rarely visit a lowly parlour.

A little contradictory but it's simple really;  A parlour girl seeing 8-10 men (or more likely 10-30) will not have the energy to offer an 'elite' experience that very same day.  But my definition of 'elite' cannot be experienced in one hour alone.  Semantics aside, if she has the ability to work all day in a parlour and then go out to dinner or spend time with someone in a completely different setting then the service she's providing has changed.  Her prices therefore should change accordingly.  If the punter thinks he's in some way special or that he's her only client then that is his own delusion.  It is reasonable for him to think he's getting a better service than the one she provided in her parlour.

At the end of the day if you get a convincing girlfriend experience then those who pay the lower prices get exactly the same experience for a much lower sum of money

No they don't.  I know if I pay you £100/hr I am not getting the same experience as a so called 'elite' service provider who asks for much more, both in terms of time and commitment.  In return she will also offer a lot more.  The 'more' she offers will be of great importance to some and of none to others. 

In summary then; Not all prostitutes are the same.  Not all punters are the same.  Not all services are the same.   

[bree121]

What puntico said
(1) "I have loads of clients",
What Bree actually said
"A lot of my clients are around only once a month"

What puntico said
(2) "I'm 'Elite' and too expensive for you"
What Bree actually said
"Please understand, I grew up in Croydon so have neither the credentials nor the inclination to look down on anyone."
And to get this 100% straight I have never ever referred my myself as elite on here or my profile. Ever.

"What puntico said
(3) "I'm on this list or that list"
What Bree actually said in direct response to quote "you will be better of signing up to C69" by another member
"My insight is being a girl who does well on both websites"

What puntico said
(4) "Clients pay me because of the holistic experience and they then become part of a higher social strata"
What Bree actually said
"I can say there is a difference in the clients and their expectations... I have no preference"
and later
"they would rather see a girl whom less people can afford, or whom they imagine sees people of their same class/social standing."
(the above was not a reference to my clients. my rate is not 400p/hr and I  have a working class background)

What puntico said
(5) "UKP is not even my market because I am above you all"
What Bree actually said
"But I lurk here precisely because I'm not reviewed here so I feel I can be honest in my opinions."
and later
"The market here has not eluded me- its simply the case that I market myself at completely different people."

I understand completely that some of you have been punting longer than I have been alive but it is a fact that older men are more inclined towards longer punts and with more expensive girls (see article on the sex industry in the Economist) so I don't see what relevance this has. It is not 18year old guys paying these elite girls 600 an hour. Age and punting habits are mostly unrelated, but if they are related the evidence sways more in the favour of the expensive girls.

As previously stated- photo and name change will eliminate your grounds of you thinking (or rather saying, even if you dont think it) that despite a rate increases over the year, I am so broke that I would need to randomly pitch myself on a website full of people who are so obviously not interested in me. You say I am touting... but you also say I am telling everyone on here that I am above them- odd touting technique, no? I'm sure I could think of something more convincing than "come and see me but by the way I think I'm better than you". I don't think I can be simultaneously trying to offend the readership, and touting. Nonsense.
B.xx

[CardiffCentral]

Yes. I'm very well known on here for being fluffy. You have zero credibility. Ad hominem tosh because your nonsense has been exposed, by consensus, for what it is.

I'm a newbie.  We all have to start somewhere.   

[CardiffCentral]

Actually the smart Prossie understands what her market will stand. As Dani said it is what  the WG puts into it and is comfortable offering.

Yup, we agree. 

[Private Parts]

You may have exceptional so....
Bollocks...
..... that is his own delusion.  It is reasonable for him to think he's getting a better service than the one she provided in her parlour.
No they don't.  I know if I pay you £100/hr I am not getting the same experience as a so called 'elite' service provider who asks for much more, both in terms of time and commitment.  In return she will also offer a lot more.  The 'more' she offers will be of great importance to some and of none to others.  Cardiff you are seeing the wrong girls

In summary then; Not all prostitutes are the same.  Not all punters are the same.  Not all services are the same.   

Delusional. Cardiff

[CardiffCentral]

Delusional. Cardiff

For the record, I've never paid for an agency girl.  I'm not someone who thinks they're getting an ambiguously termed 'elite' experience from a fairly anonymous agency website for £500/hr.  I'm not here to defend that sort of nonsense and have not made any indication that that random online agency rubbish is what I was referring to when I mentioned 'elite'. 

My primary source of clunge is from my civvie life, but also dipping into AW et al.   

[Private Parts]

Then why waste you life defending the indefensable with bollocks.?
PP

[CardiffCentral]

Then why waste you life defending the indefensable with bollocks.?
PP

You're right, I went off on one a bit. I was defending the existence of 'elite' escorts but hadn't realized that in the context of this thread, 'elite' was referring to a level of service that an agency or escort has advertised as providing in order to justify a higher price.  Especially as pointed out earlier, some of these girls also work independently on AW and charge much less. 

There are notable exceptions of course (eg. glamour/porn/catwalk models) but by and large I don't buy into the whole 'elite' agency spiel you find in London and elsewhere.

[Sedlmayer]

I'm a newbie.  We all have to start somewhere.   

You've started very badly matey....

[Sedlmayer]

You're right, I went off on one a bit. I was defending the existence of 'elite' escorts but hadn't realized that in the context of this thread, 'elite' was referring to a level of service that an agency or escort has advertised as providing in order to justify a higher price.  Especially as pointed out earlier, some of these girls also work independently on AW and charge much less. 

There are notable exceptions of course (eg. glamour/porn/catwalk models) but by and large I don't buy into the whole 'elite' agency spiel you find in London and elsewhere.

So basically you've just recanted pretty much everything you had previously said (which was bollocks).
Great start on here matey, but just a thought - have you considered posting in Welsh?

[smiths]

What an absolute load of old bollocks some have posted on this thread. Elite like Courtesan and High Class in punting means expensive, its merely a marketing term used. Some punters are attracted to such a term as they think a pleb like me wouldn't have punted with a WG who charged such a rate, they would be quite correct on that.

What the terms don't mean or prove is the WG offers a good service, what it does mean is the punter will walk away that much lighter of pocket than if he had paid a bad but cheaper WG.

For ME its nothing to do with what I can afford too pay, its ALL to do with wanting VFM as I see it. A WG who charges over £200 an hour isn't VFM to me nowadays so I wont pay more. Fortunately I can locate good WGs for less that £200 an hour. What a WG charges is up to her as of course is what a punter chooses to pay. My interest in this subject is to make clear there is NO correlation between what a WG charges and how good a service she might offer as that depends on her own unique attitude.

[west8]

I have a slightly different viewpoint on the demographic here on UKP. It's not about what a punter chooses to pay or is able to pay. I don't think either of those are the main reason many of us are here. That reason is far simpler: Value For Money. UKP is about finding obscure gems among the 100s of listings which appear on AW each and every day. For many, time constraints and the unpredictability of AW make it all but useless as a medium for arranging a booking at short notice - or later in the evening, post-10pm. So there is only one realistic option: agencies. I think of Adultwork as being a little like the big Tesco on Cromwell Road: it appears to have something for everyone but is far too large and laborious to trudge around searching for precisely what one needs. Agencies are more akin to Waitrose. They 'stock' a somewhat smaller range of products, but they generally have what you need if time is of the essence and cost is of no significance.

Like many others on here, my first impression of AW was the naive belief that it was stuffed with scams, B&S, fake pictures and girls working in peripheral locations and/or in poor quality accommodation. The reason UKP is so successful is that for the initiated it has become to procuring the services of a prostitute precisely what Trip Advisor became to those seeking VFM accommodation. Yes, it’s relatively easy to find 5 good prostitutes (or guesthouses) in a given location, but how does one know which offers better VFM? The Reviews. Moreover, the 300 or 500 that could have been spent on an agency girl for an hour will usually get you two or three hours with an AW girl.

That is also why reviews of 300/400/500/600+ WGs are pointless here on UKP. It's not because the membership can't afford or is not interested in such WGs, but rather because such rates do not represent VFM. There are occasions when reliability and true beauty (among other things) are a prerequisite for a longer booking. Those are the occasions when I will pay a far higher rate for the services of an "Elite" escort. I have written elsewhere that the 'Elite/Premier/Exclusive/Best' monikers are bollocks. Because they are. Usually. At any one time, there may be half a dozen truly spectacular WGs on the books of the usual 8-10 top tier escort agencies, but you need to spend a lot of time and money wading through the overpriced and underachieving chaff to find those girls.

Which once again brings us back to the 'time' factor. If one wishes to spend time searching for the 'right' girls, then AW is a far better option. Why? Because the range is enormous and the rates (when compared to typical 'elite' agency rates) are bargain basement. So, what would a reasonable man choose to do: select 5/6 WGs from AW and head out with a deerstalker and pipe to conduct coital fieldwork, or risk that same sum on a single 'elite' girl.

It's a no-brainer.

If money were a prime consideration for me, I would NEVER use the services of any agency ever again. They are piss-taking, greedy, lying, scum. As it is not, I still partake with agency girls as well as AW girls. The quality (primarily looks and presentation) of the best agency girls does surpass that of the best AW girls in my experience to date, but not by a significant enough margin to justify spending 500/600 vs. 100/150 for an hour of sex.

Therefore, Adultwork is the sensible choice. Moreover, good luck trying to find a range of beautiful Polish or Hungarian women through escort agencies. There are some, but the best are either Independents or on Adultwork. Agencies win outright in three categories only:

1. Big name Touring Pornstars;
2. English WGs;
3. Russian WGs.

Speaking of which, does anyone know why there are so few Russian WGs on Adultwork?

[Dani]

 £100/hr I am not getting the same experience as a so called 'elite' service provider who asks for much more, both in terms of time and commitment.  In return she will also offer a lot more.  The 'more' she offers will be of great importance to some and of none to others. 

In summary then; Not all prostitutes are the same.  Not all punters are the same.  Not all services are the same.   

Pray tell me what more are these higher priced girls giving that us average priced ones don't?  I would love to know as I have seen some of them work and they give much less of themselves as people than I or some others do?  They do not have special acting skills the rest of us don't have. They cannot converse any better than some of us and the ones I have met have been quite ignorant on current affairs, have a minimal education or are doing pointless degrees such as media studies or pop music through the ages. They certainly cannot be more genuine or intimate. As some like me don't offer a 'fuckfest' we offer a softer gentler more sensual and erotic experience. I really would love to know what they put in that the rest of us don't as I genuinely out all of myself into my bookings

Oh by the way I also choose who I want to see and have quite a strict criteria and don't just see anyone who calls unlike most elite agency girls who see who they are told to see and don't even get to converse with the client before meeting to ensure they will enjoy each other's company. As for saying it is different with agencies I think you will find the majority so called 'elite' escorts work for an agency or sometimes many more than one agency at a time.

I can also say I have met a few men from this site and not omegas treated me like a piece of meat. They have all been gentle, considerate and have ensured it to be a mutually enjoyable experience.

In fact the only times I have been treated like a piece of meat is when touring London and meeting with the high flyers who do book us regardless if price and act like mindless idiots as have thd attitude that money buys them everything so they think they can do what they want regardless of a woman's boundaries. I would rather have a decent working class man than a Tosser who feels money makes him powerful so he can act like he owns the woman he has booked and she must obey his commands. I know I am not the only one who feels this way about these so called choosier men who genuinely believe money buys entitlement.  I have met builders and even one pikey with more class and sincerity that quite a few of these so called men who prefer to pay more for an elite service

[CardiffCentral]

So basically you've just recanted pretty much everything you had previously said (which was bollocks).
Great start on here matey, but just a thought - have you considered posting in Welsh?

Not much of a Welsh speaker.

But to clarify; There are escorts who provide a service I'd regard as being 'elite', but I do not believe that online agencies, similar to the one mentioned, can offer that tailored experience.  Not recanting, just making a distinction between webshops in London repackaging AW girls for a hefty markup. 

[CardiffCentral]

What an absolute load of old bollocks some have posted on this thread. Elite like Courtesan and High Class in punting means expensive, its merely a marketing term used. Some punters are attracted to such a term as they think a pleb like me wouldn't have punted with a WG who charged such a rate, they would be quite correct on that.

What the terms don't mean or prove is the WG offers a good service, what it does mean is the punter will walk away that much lighter of pocket than if he had paid a bad but cheaper WG.

For ME its nothing to do with what I can afford too pay, its ALL to do with wanting VFM as I see it. A WG who charges over £200 an hour isn't VFM to me nowadays so I wont pay more. Fortunately I can locate good WGs for less that £200 an hour. What a WG charges is up to her as of course is what a punter chooses to pay. My interest in this subject is to make clear there is NO correlation between what a WG charges and how good a service she might offer as that depends on her own unique attitude.

You're right, exclusivity is a huge draw for some men.  As well as 24hr comms, discretion, trust and reliability.  I couldn't comment on the service as all working girls vary right?  And I've never paid thousands for a woman and spent weeks flying around the globe with her.  I'd imagine she'd be alright in the sack though.

[smiths]

You're right, exclusivity is a huge draw for some men.  As well as 24hr comms, discretion, trust and reliability.  I couldn't comment on the service as all working girls vary right?  And I've never paid thousands for a woman and spent weeks flying around the globe with her.  I'd imagine she'd be alright in the sack though.

Unless a punter is with a WG 24/7 he cant know for definite it is exclusive, its a fact some WGs lie. IMO its not wise to trust a total or virtual stranger WG, too many cases on here and elsewhere where doing that has gone pear shaped for the punter involved.

Yes ALL WGs vary, they are unique bespoke one-offs of course. As I posted above VFM as I see it is what I look for in punting. Others will think differently to me obviously and good for them if it leads to good punts for them.

[CardiffCentral]

...does anyone know why there are so few Russian WGs on Adultwork?

I was thinking this earlier.  I was hoping that with the collapse of the Greek and Cypriot economies, Turkey having to deal with a hard to manage border and Russia facing off against the US, that the UK would be ripe for a Russian WG invasion.  Are they stopping at Germany, or leaving Europe entirely I wonder?

Perhaps it's too soon to say. Stratfor or some other think tank are probably writing a whitepaper on this as we speak.

[Dave2014]

What puntico said
(1) "I have loads of clients",
What Bree actually said
"A lot of my clients are around only once a month"

What puntico said
(2) "I'm 'Elite' and too expensive for you"
What Bree actually said
"Please understand, I grew up in Croydon so have neither the credentials nor the inclination to look down on anyone."
And to get this 100% straight I have never ever referred my myself as elite on here or my profile. Ever.

"What puntico said
(3) "I'm on this list or that list"
What Bree actually said in direct response to quote "you will be better of signing up to C69" by another member
"My insight is being a girl who does well on both websites"

What puntico said
(4) "Clients pay me because of the holistic experience and they then become part of a higher social strata"
What Bree actually said
"I can say there is a difference in the clients and their expectations... I have no preference"
and later
"they would rather see a girl whom less people can afford, or whom they imagine sees people of their same class/social standing."
(the above was not a reference to my clients. my rate is not 400p/hr and I  have a working class background)

What puntico said
(5) "UKP is not even my market because I am above you all"
What Bree actually said
"But I lurk here precisely because I'm not reviewed here so I feel I can be honest in my opinions."
and later
"The market here has not eluded me- its simply the case that I market myself at completely different people."

I understand completely that some of you have been punting longer than I have been alive but it is a fact that older men are more inclined towards longer punts and with more expensive girls (see article on the sex industry in the Economist) so I don't see what relevance this has. It is not 18year old guys paying these elite girls 600 an hour. Age and punting habits are mostly unrelated, but if they are related the evidence sways more in the favour of the expensive girls.

As previously stated- photo and name change will eliminate your grounds of you thinking (or rather saying, even if you dont think it) that despite a rate increases over the year, I am so broke that I would need to randomly pitch myself on a website full of people who are so obviously not interested in me. You say I am touting... but you also say I am telling everyone on here that I am above them- odd touting technique, no? I'm sure I could think of something more convincing than "come and see me but by the way I think I'm better than you". I don't think I can be simultaneously trying to offend the readership, and touting. Nonsense.
B.xx

Possibly the most misleading and disingenuous response you could attempt to construct to resile from everything I correctly summarised said you had previously written in touting 9and speaking down to UKP members) on here.

I have no interest in drafting an analysis of what you said to make you look even more slippery than you have just made yourself look as I have no interest in spending any more time on responding to you. Save that (1) any punter will go back to read my summary of your touting in the context of your original post and will see exactly what you have written (and see what you have tried to leave out in your dishonest 'rebuttal'), and (2) I repeat what I said earlier about your ability to retain two differing opinions at once.

Your attempt at manipulating and distorting what you so blatantly and explicitly wrote here will serve as a indicator against which punters will judge both you and the way you think. I would certainly never enter into a contract for sexual services with you they require both trust and confidence in the other person.

[Dave2014]

Yup, we agree.

If that doesn't just about say it all - and is a Freudian slip betraying the little 'elite' gang of newbies working together in concert on this thread, I do not know what is.

[Dave2014]

Speaking of which, does anyone know why there are so few Russian WGs on Adultwork?

They are to be found predominantly in Austria and Germany (where brothels are legal) and Dubai (where earnings/risks are high).

[Marmite]

Dubai seems to be overflowing with Russians.  Plenty of "Pro's" but perhaps more intriguingly quite a few "amateurs" who are open for an offer off the right person.

[Private Parts]

They are to be found predominantly in Austria and Germany (where brothels are legal) and Dubai (where earnings/risks are high).

Found mine in the south of France.
PP

[Moka1977]

Just another example. Am not trolling the site or the board just remember when lurking looking at these posts thinking I must be missing something. Pretty sure the elite punt that these three punters were enquiring about do exist. As the legendary Jason said there are no 500ph reviews here I don't think. And whilst I have marvelled at the reviews and escapades of YLF and others I think there is one level up in terms of punting talent which some of us would see as the punting holy grail. Question is, with punting cash burning a whole in your pocket would you rather go in search of a YLF style duo extravaganza or would you spend it on just one perfect punt?!?   

[daviemac]

Just another example. Am not trolling the site or the board just remember when lurking looking at these posts thinking I must be missing something. Pretty sure the elite punt that these three punters were enquiring about do exist. As the legendary Jason said there are no 500ph reviews here I don't think. And whilst I have marvelled at the reviews and escapades of YLF and others I think there is one level up in terms of punting talent which some of us would see as the punting holy grail. Question is, with punting cash burning a whole in your pocket would you rather go in search of a YLF style duo extravaganza or would you spend it on just one perfect punt?!?   

You've revived a thread that's over 2 years old to post this. Are you sure.   

[Moka1977]

Yes I'm sure. History teaches lessons. Or it should. Whenever this type of question has been asked it gets shouted down albeit jokily. UKP has answered many of my questions but this was a conundrum I had to find my own answer to. Like many things in life. But no UKP is great. (Translation- don't ban me for being different, admin) 

[daviemac]

Yes I'm sure. History teaches lessons. Or it should. Whenever this type of question has been asked it gets shouted down albeit jokily. UKP has answered many of my questions but this was a conundrum I had to find my own answer to. Like many things in life. But no UKP is great. (Translation- don't ban me for being different, admin) 

Why not take notice of the big red warning you would've got suggesting you start a new thread to ask your question. Seems a far more logical thing to do.   

If your not a troll you're doing a good impression. 

[Moka1977]

Never be afraid to take the road less traveled OP

[daviemac]

Never be afraid to take the road less traveled OP

Not only a troll but an idiot as well.   

[Moka1977]

And I'm not asking a question. I'm giving my current and future perspective on an issue for a small but I think significant minority of punters here. Question everything...

[Moka1977]

Sticks and stones...
Well I've got lots of letters after my name and a pretty high iq
But I agree that's a load of bollocks really
Logic is my thing though matey...

[James999]

Well I've got lots of letters after my name

C U N T,  T W A T,   B E L L E N D ?

[Moka1977]

Slightly ironic post for a punting site ;-)

[Moka1977]

Ok and I know a genius should know the difference between whole and hole
Again a somewhat ironic line for a punting site
Admin- ban me if u wish but the year of being signed up and some lurking before that have given me lots of info and food for thought
As in the real world I think group think sometimes takes over
Just because this line of thread has been poorly received by the majority here doesn't mean it's not valid

[Moka1977]

'Whenever You Find Yourself On The Side Of The Majority It Is Time To Pause And Reflect'

[smiths]

Never be afraid to take the road less traveled OP

Wakey wakey, the OP hasn't been on UKP for over 2 years.

[Moka1977]

Not sure what your point is
I'm trying to wake some of you chaps up
Probably little point
The wait for the ban is killing me
;-)

[Moka1977]

Forgive me if I'm wrong OP is da lingo for other punter?!?
Which was the way I chose to address the 'gentleman' who was slagging me off
Get it?!?

[cueball]

Forgive me if I'm wrong OP is da lingo for other punter?!?
Which was the way I chose to address the 'gentleman' who was slagging me off
Get it?!?

No, don't get it

OP is original poster

[Moka1977]

Bugger you guys win
That one anyway
Ok getting bored of this
I'll probably keep my experience of a different kind of punt to myself then
Bye Uk Punting
You gave me some cool info
But ultimately this place is full of blue pillers
Which is the world I suppose
Laters
Peace
Out
Ps admin you need to be a bit quicker with the banning so as to appease your herd ;-)

[smiths]

Forgive me if I'm wrong OP is da lingo for other punter?!?
Which was the way I chose to address the 'gentleman' who was slagging me off
Get it?!?

Jeez, you have been a member over a year and don't know what OP means, it means original poster and what that means is the poster who created this thread. Get it.

[cueball]

Bugger you guys win
That one anyway
Ok getting bored of this
I'll probably keep my experience of a different kind of punt to myself then
Bye Uk Punting
You gave me some cool info
But ultimately this place is full of blue pillers
Which is the world I suppose
Laters
Peace
Out
Ps admin you need to be a bit quicker with the banning so as to appease your herd ;-)

Knob 

[Moka1977]

Ooh How Freudian

[standardpostage]

Regina looks nice, from only £800  donation I wonder if that is per hour ? Some of the others are POA, will that be more than £800 ? If you need to ask the price, then you can't afford it, comes to mind. Definitely way out of my comfort zone price wise. Nice to browse though. Reminds me of going to Harrods in London once, and never buying anything.

[Moka1977]

Yeah man per hour
The question is is it just that the website is cooler and the photoshopping extreme
Or are the photos representative
Because it seems no one has actually booked one of these ladies then none of us know
Wouldn't it be cool if someone is offering to TOFTT and the requisite hit to the finances
Oh yeah they are
Me
But as suggested previously, given the majority of responses to the original post-ers and my seemingly sacrilegious awakening of this/these threads: don't see why I should bother posting
If it's shit they'll laugh if it's great they'll say I made it up or who cares
Unless I get a number of responses saying a review might be helpful ain't gonna post
Admin- do your thing or don't but congrats on the site
Perhaps some new avenues such as truly elite london punts might be interesting
But hey ignorance may be bliss...