Adult Work Rating

[Deeplove]

So I'm a bit stuck
I want to see two new WG's but have 0 feedback on AW even though I've had two solid punts.

One was via xmassage and the other via AW but the girl didn't reply to my booking and it was done via text, I've tried to message the 2nd one but she's deleting my messages 😒

Any help would be appreciated.

I think I'll need to put up a deposit but that's a risk in itself ...

Thank you

[cunningman]

Any help would be appreciated.

Have a couple of quickies with English (or possibly Polish if they have good English) MILFs who have less than 20 feedbacks, they'll probably be keen to reciprocate but do make sure you're a gent and not too demanding.  Text them on the way back to say 'Thanks, that was lovely - OK to do feedback?'.

A few accept it and don't reciprocate because they are lazy but if they thought they got a decent deal then most will play along. 

It doesn't matter if you thought it was Neutral.  You're scrounging feedback, stay focussed.

FAF ROMs and Brazilians will not bother.

(Oh - don't say 'treat her well guys'.)

[Malvolio]

Don't pay a deposit - that's not how punting works in the UK.

[7714337]

Paying a deposit is madness!

[GorillaWarfare]

Definitely don't put up a deposit no matter what. I can't stress this enough. I have a few "golden rules" when I punt, and never paying a deposit is one of them.

As for how to get feedback:

I've only ever been given feedback by British girls. I don't know whether this is true for everyone but it's a pattern for me.

I don't know what the consensus here for asking a girl for AW feedback is. Personally I've done it, but only in response to a WG asking me for one.  In a sort of "GW, will you give me feedback?" "Yes, but could you give me feedback too?" way. I've never asked for it first.

A few have given me feedback without it even coming up in conversation - looking at the timestamps AW gives one WG even did it within 10 minutes of me being out of her door.

I'm currently sitting on 6 positives with no negatives so I don't have any problems matching WG feedback requirements, but that's my experience with it at least. If you really want to build your feedback I'd suggest looking at people who have given feedback and seeing if the WG has reciprocated on that person's profile, but that's not something I'd personally want to do. I see girls to have some fun, not to boost my AW rating. If my rating goes up as well, then great.

[Malvolio]

I've built up some AW feedback as I think (just my impression, clearly there's no way to prove this) it may help me get bookings with popular girls I've yet to see.

I have no problem in asking a WG to leave me feedback at the end of the punt - I will have made significantly more personal requests during the punt.

[signy]

Assuming we are talking about when all this trouble is over.

Read profiles carefully, as well as escorts who say they want feedback, some explicitly say they will see or consider zero feedback newbies.

Write a nice, well thought out email to some solid, established escorts explaining yourself. Try not to cut-and-paste too much. Use their name (not babe, sexy, etc.). Describe yourself a little (politely, NOT "I've got a big dick" or the like). Tell them what you want; best to go for easy GFE stuff, not starting with some extreme services or complications. Thank them at the end of the email. I am sure you will get a few that go for it.

As you get dressed, ask them if it is OK to swap feedback (it is a 2-way thing). Soon after leaving send them a thank you text. Leave them feedback first; it will prompt them to do the same for you. Basically, be a nice guy.

You will soon build up some good feedback and be able to move on to more picky escorts.

[B4bcock]

You will have to leave your feedback first so the SP can check it is positive before she responds.     Also, be prepared to wait a day or two for your feedback to show.   Some SP's wait until they have a quiet time or day off and then do all their feedback in one go.

[Deeplove]

Thank you everyone

Will be following all the information in the post's accordingly

Thanks again

[Vic69]

I generally only see Gents with AW feedback, however if I am sent a polite, friendly message with a little information about the sort of service required, I would be happy to do a screening phone call with a view to arrange a booking.......hope this helps.

[Londonpunter30]

I don’t get the logic behind this.  How does seeing another prossie make the punter any safer.

It could have been a 15 min quickie, or even worse exposure to BB

[southcoastpunter]

I don’t get the logic behind this.  How does seeing another prossie make the punter any safer.

It could have been a 15 min quickie, or even worse exposure to BB

On the basis that if a guy has seen a few ladies and isn't an axe murder or worse with them, he is likey to be ok with them. And in the same way that guys can use a lady's AW feedback to give some indication of the lady - perhaps not in terms of service but can indicate that she is not a scammer. And before some guys come charging in saying "all AW feedback is bollox", I disagree with that. Yes, a lot is but with a bit of work, you can get some useful information - mainly as i said that the lady is genuine and will not scam you. Beyond that, i don't expect anymore from any feedback.

[xyfek]

On the basis that if a guy has seen a few ladies and isn't an axe murder or worse with them, he is likey to be ok with them. And in the same way that guys can use a lady's AW feedback to give some indication of the lady - perhaps not in terms of service but can indicate that she is not a scammer. And before some guys come charging in saying "all AW feedback is bollox", I disagree with that. Yes, a lot is but with a bit of work, you can get some useful information - mainly as i said that the lady is genuine and will not scam you. Beyond that, i don't expect anymore from any feedback.

I agree with this. AW feedback has to be taken with a pinch of salt, as it's not unheard of guys giving a positive there and a negative here on UKP where it really counts.

But to make sure that a girl is genuine and not a scammer, it's more than enough.

[Home Alone]

Effectively, they're a system of coded messages to tell other SPs if a punter with little other feedback seems acceptable or whether they shouldn't touch him with a bargepole

So if: the OP can find SPs who'll see him; turns up as signy and B4bcock indicate; hands over his money more or less as soon as the SP's shut the door behind him; and is civil with the SP throughout his time with her; then he'll soon have more Feedback of the "Nice guy; welcome back anytime" kind than he can shake a stick at.

Oh, and by the way, OP, follow the last sentence of cunningman's post slavishly!

[southcoastpunter]

it's not unheard of guys giving a positive there and a negative here on UKP where it really counts.

Well if that is true - then those same UKP members who do that are PART OF THE PROBLEM. They should have have the balls to give honest feedback anywhere, including AW. I certainly have, on a couple of occasions when necessary, given less than complementary feedback on AW and not had any real problems. And if a guy is having too many negative experiences, then he is not doing his research well enough in the first place.

[usroads]

Isn't it generally acknowleged that AW Positive Ratings are very questionable - both on the SP and Punter?

[GorillaWarfare]

Isn't it generally acknowleged that AW Positive Ratings are very questionable - both on the SP and Punter?

AW ratings in general are very questionable, whatever the rating. There are people who post positive ratings just so the WG doesn't give them a malicious negative back. There are some girl who are put off by even one negative review on your profile. And girls can use punting taboos to really fuck up your chances with WGs. There's stories of girls claiming "he's a boundary pusher" or "he asked for bareback" in response - both of which would put a WG right off from seeing you. Both are real concerns in the punting world - and actual barebackers/boundary pushers should rightly be condemned - so such claims would stick a giant red flag on your profile to any girl who bothers to check.

Likewise a punter could do the same to a WG who gives him negative feedback. There are people like that on both sides of the punting transaction.

It's why a positive review on here is worth ten positive reviews on AW to me. There's no way for a bitter WG to give a "revenge rating" on here so punters don't have an incentive to mince words.

[Hobbit]

Effectively, they're a system of coded messages to tell other SPs if a punter with little other feedback seems acceptable or whether they shouldn't touch him with a bargepole

Really? Do you have evidence of this?

[Hobbit]

So I'm a bit stuck
I want to see two new WG's but have 0 feedback on AW even though I've had two solid punts.

One was via xmassage and the other via AW but the girl didn't reply to my booking and it was done via text, I've tried to message the 2nd one but she's deleting my messages 😒

Any help would be appreciated.

I think I'll need to put up a deposit but that's a risk in itself ...

Thank you

Personally I would tell them to fuck off and find someone that would see you. There's plenty out there that would see you with zero feedback.

[xyfek]

Well if that is true - then those same UKP members who do that are PART OF THE PROBLEM. They should have have the balls to give honest feedback anywhere, including AW. I certainly have, on a couple of occasions when necessary, given less than complementary feedback on AW and not had any real problems. And if a guy is having too many negative experiences, then he is not doing his research well enough in the first place.

Like GorillaWarfare alludes to, on AW the girls can give you a negative back and write something that will make it harder for you to book other girls in future. So, the system is rigged to favour the exchange of positive feedback regardless of what both parties actually thought about the booking.

But you are right, of course, at the bare minimum don't give any feedback on AW if you weren't happy with the service (this is what I do). Although, clearly, I'm in the minority as there are plenty of popular SPs on AW whose reviews on here are pretty much a wall of red.

[Colston36]

Isn't it generally acknowleged that AW Positive Ratings are very questionable - both on the SP and Punter?

I think almost all AW feedbacks - including mine - veer in the direction of flattery. We are so to speak doing each other a favour, and we almost always decide to write something when in a state of post-punt euphoria.

But most girls (assuming they have fluent English) are influenced, definitely, by how much favourable feedback you have had as a punter.

On UKP reviews tend to be much more honest, as we all know. I do strongly agree that research is utterly essential. Out of hundreds of meetings in the last 5 years I can recall only a handful that were really dire, and I now have a stable of absolutely reliable strumpets - even though my tastes are a little eccentric.

[Home Alone]

Really? Do you have evidence of this?

Verbal evidence, Hobbit; given to me by my last, much-missed Regular at the end of the first or second of our meets, probably seven or eight years ago.

We were talking about AW Feedback and she said she'd give me some - more - fluffily positive feedback to confirm to any other SPs I booked would know I was no trouble to deal with.

I thought it was well-known; other SPs I've seen since have alluded to it.

[Adoniron]

Effectively, they're a system of coded messages to tell other SPs if a punter with little other feedback seems acceptable or whether they shouldn't touch him with a bargepole

So if: the OP can find SPs who'll see him; turns up as signy and B4bcock indicate; hands over his money more or less as soon as the SP's shut the door behind him; and is civil with the SP throughout his time with her; then he'll soon have more Feedback of the "Nice guy; welcome back anytime" kind than he can shake a stick at.

Oh, and by the way, OP, follow the last sentence of cunningman's post slavishly!

I have often wondered if this was the case. A lot of my feedback contains the same terms over and again.

[Hobbit]

Verbal evidence, Hobbit; given to me by my last, much-missed Regular at the end of the first or second of our meets, probably seven or eight years ago.

We were talking about AW Feedback and she said she'd give me some - more - fluffily positive feedback to confirm to any other SPs I booked would know I was no trouble to deal with.

I thought it was well-known; other SPs I've seen since have alluded to it.

Interesting. Would love to read the dictionary of terms. So you're saying that something like "Bubbly character with a big dick" could mean "Stay away, too rough". Or "Enjoyed the mango munching" could imply "Stubbly with terrible oral skills".   

[Home Alone]

Well, Hobbit; you might say that, I couldn't possibly comment!

I've only got the translation book for Fluffy Feedback!

[Vic69]

Interesting. Would love to read the dictionary of terms. So you're saying that something like "Bubbly character with a big dick" could mean "Stay away, too rough". Or "Enjoyed the mango munching" could imply "Stubbly with terrible oral skills".   

I've never heard of this either.....although you can draw your own conclusions "chatty fun guy, knows how to please a girl".....Didnt shutup, told unfunny jokes, but cum really quick.......

[daviemac]

I've never heard of this either.....although you can draw your own conclusions "chatty fun guy, knows how to please a girl".....Didnt shutup, told unfunny jokes, but cum really quick.......

For it to work as has been implied all WGs would need to know all the code words, not ideal, especially for non native English speakers.

[GorillaWarfare]

Interesting. Would love to read the dictionary of terms. So you're saying that something like "Bubbly character with a big dick" could mean "Stay away, too rough". Or "Enjoyed the mango munching" could imply "Stubbly with terrible oral skills".   

I think "gent/gentleman" is code for "not a boundary pusher".

[Home Alone]

Where are our SP members when we need them, eh?!  Surely they write this 'language'?

[Hobbit]

For it to work as has been implied all WGs would need to know all the code words, not ideal, especially for non native English speakers.

Exactly. They would need to be singing from the same hymn sheet and go to a school like Hogwarts. 

[daviemac]

Where are our SP members when we need them, eh?!  Surely they write this 'language'?

There aren't that many who are members.

[MissWolf]

I will jump in lol

For feedback on aw you need to put the booking in through the booking system, if you just message, get a number and sort by text then I'm not aware you can leave feedback (or you could leave it for anyone willy nilly)

I dont personally go on feedback alone and will see zero rated clients as long as they are polite and communicate well, I've had quite a few zero rated clients who have booked by message or text ask at the end if they can put in a ghost booking so they can leave and recieve feedback.

As for language on feedback,  possibly between girls who have client crossover, I have a lady close to me who shares some clients and if she or I get a message from a client with feedback from the other we often text each other for the lowdown 

I'm quite transparent  with my feedback and while it's ok to be less than enthusiastic when writing feedback I try not to hurt feelings of clients as it might simply be that we didn't gel well.

I did once have a client who had stunning FB, things like....fantastic kisser, such a sexy man, omg he knows how to please etc......

Turned out to smell of piss, have stained underwear, used his hands like claws , wouldn't know a clit if it slapped him round his ears and grabbed the back of my head, opened his mouth wide and rammed his smelly tongue down my throat as his version of kissing, split my lip with his tooth too  ........never again will I trust that duo's feedback 

[daviemac]

I will jump in lol

For feedback on aw you need to put the booking in through the booking system, if you just message, get a number and sort by text then I'm not aware you can leave feedback (or you could leave it for anyone willy nilly)

I believe if you submit a booking request and the WG doesn't confirm you can only leave it as 'feedback only' it needs to be confirmed to be able to give it a rating.

I've seem many times punters leave fake positives on AW so they get a positive in return, for some reason + AW feedback is important to them. Personally I would rather say nothing than mislead others.

[willie loman]

I will jump in lol

For feedback on aw you need to put the booking in through the booking system, if you just message, get a number and sort by text then I'm not aware you can leave feedback (or you could leave it for anyone willy nilly)

I dont personally go on feedback alone and will see zero rated clients as long as they are polite and communicate well, I've had quite a few zero rated clients who have booked by message or text ask at the end if they can put in a ghost booking so they can leave and recieve feedback.



I did once have a client who had stunning FB, things like....fantastic kisser, such a sexy man, omg he knows how to please etc......

Turned out to smell of piss, have stained underwear, used his hands like claws , wouldn't know a clit if it slapped him round his ears and grabbed the back of my head, opened his mouth wide and rammed his smelly tongue down my throat as his version of kissing, split my lip with his tooth too  ........never again will I trust that duo's feedback 

Probably one of the best posts ive read, but here is the rub, did you leave him negative feedback?

[Londonpunter30]

The issue with the system is you can’t dispute it.  Once you leave a negative and get retaliation feedback there’s fuck all you can do other than start a new account

[MissWolf]

Probably one of the best posts ive read, but here is the rub, did you leave him negative feedback?

No I didn't leave him any

[MissWolf]

I believe if you submit a booking request and the WG doesn't confirm you can only leave it as 'feedback only' it needs to be confirmed to be able to give it a rating.

I've seem many times punters leave fake positives on AW so they get a positive in return, for some reason + AW feedback is important to them. Personally I would rather say nothing than mislead others.

Yes absolutely correct we need to confirm first, I have a few feedback only where clients have submitted the feedback before I have had a chance to confirm etc

[daviemac]

The issue with the system is you can’t dispute it.  Once you leave a negative and get retaliation feedback there’s fuck all you can do other than start a new account

Why worry about getting a retaliatory negative, just put a comment on it if it concerns you.