The future of punting

[Home Alone]

I'm a SP, I've not had any emails from AW telling me they are sending emails out to clients. X

Thanks for that, Vic. Sounds like AW are treating both 'seller' and 'buyer' with equal disdain, then.

[daviemac]

When I clicked the link it downloaded the PDF to my computer instead of displaying it in the browser. Could be risky if you didn't realise that had happened and anyone else looks in the downloads.

The link opened up ok for me, however as prostitution is illegal in the state of Illinois, along with other US states, it can't really be compared to this country where it's legal.

[ProtocolDroid]

The link opened up ok for me, however as prostitution is illegal in the state of Illinois, along with other US states, it can't really be compared to this country where it's legal.

Yes, that may be another confounding factor. I am not sure how exactly the question of whether some informal profession is legal would impact on the operation of the laws of supply and demand. Sure, supply and demand may both be suppressed but I suspect that the economic laws still work. (In fact, I'd go so far as to say that they may help explain why punting is generally more expensive in the US than it is here: law enforcement related risks associated with the profession drive down the number of providers, so assuming demand isn't reduced by the same degree they can charge more.)

In any case, empirical studies on this are rare; I thought it interesting to approach the question of the future of punting based on more than just my intuition. Others may of course disagree.

[joexxx]

Please tell me you're joking Joe ??

I meant it could be good in the long term as its likely that more girls will look to sex work due to the economy and people arnt going to socially distance forever whether theres a vaccine or no vaccine.

[Mr Sinister]

I've seen a couple of former regulars who were out of the country(accessing from...) are back in and now advertised as working again, see more new faces. Once regular flights starts again girls will be back working as normal big time.

[Horizontal pleasures]

I've seen a couple of former regulars who were out of the country(accessing from...) are back in and now advertised as working again, see more new faces. Once regular flights starts again girls will be back working as normal big time.

links please

[Home Alone]

I meant it could be good in the long term as its likely that more girls will look to sex work due to the economy and people arnt going to socially distance forever whether theres a vaccine or no vaccine.

Having been out & about earlier today doing this week's supermarket Big Shop when things seemed to be as like pre-lockdown days as I remember them being, I don't think it will take long at all for things to return to how they used to be in the halcyon days of conceding 2 yards of Social Distancing space; yielding to other people, etc, etc. 

[Pj55]

Unfortunately however, there is still no sign of any government intention to lift the 2m social distancing measures for the foreseeable future (months ?), so it's difficult to see how a return to punting is going to be possible for ages yet, surely ?

[Home Alone]

That's as maybe, Pj.

All I was trying to do was to back up joexxx'scomment by reporting on how close to pre-lockdown days my shopping experience yesterday was. People not quite pushing past but certainly not keeping at 2 metres distance; ignoring the arrows on the supermarket floor; etc.

And I'll bet quite a few of the SPs who are making themselves available for a full sex appointment have done at least some business, despite the lockdown rules.

[Mr Sinister]

Unfortunately however, there is still no sign of any government intention to lift the 2m social distancing measures for the foreseeable future (months ?), so it's difficult to see how a return to punting is going to be possible for ages yet, surely ?

Social distancing will go on for the rest of the year It's about risk mitigation to handle the impact of the virus, once lockdown has lifted this will only apply in the public space, i.e once shops, restaurants, pubs, hairdressers etc reopen.

Not who you meet in private, that will be down to you.

[signy]

Unfortunately however, there is still no sign of any government intention to lift the 2m social distancing measures for the foreseeable future (months ?), so it's difficult to see how a return to punting is going to be possible for ages yet, surely ?

Wasn't there some talk earlier this week of the distance being reduced to 1m? This would be in line with WHO advice, rather then the UK 2m. Not that this would help the punting situation.

If you want to punt, just book in Durham under the name of D.Cummings and all will be allowed.

[usroads]

Social distancing will go on for the rest of the year It's about risk mitigation to handle the impact of the virus, once lockdown has lifted this will only apply in the public space, i.e once shops, restaurants, pubs, hairdressers etc reopen.

Not who you meet in private, that will be down to you.

No matter how, or at what rate , BoJo eases lockdown coronavirus and cv19 mortalities will be around for a long while.
So you're going punting in future months you pay yer money and take yer chances. It's a dismal outlook 

[MrMatrix]

No matter how, or at what rate , BoJo eases lockdown coronavirus and cv19 mortalities will be around for a long while.
So you're going punting in future months you pay yer money and take yer chances. It's a dismal outlook 

Some 3000 new cases identified yesterday. So yes it will be around for several months. I was hoping things would have been more positive by late summer, but not so sure now

[davidgood]

I had seen a jokey cartoon of standing doggy:

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but it struck me that the bloke is OK but the lass is in a shower of his spit, wheeze and general virus droplets.

Turn it left by 90 degrees, and its looking good for Reverse Cowgirl, and he can live in his own viral fug.  And she can cough on his toes.  I'd probably keep my socks on, I don't want any SP judging my toes.



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I like standing doggy, so would not have a problem if this became the norm.

Regards,

davidgood

[Moysey]

I genuinely couldn't have timed my return to punting life at a worse time. It's been well over ten years and the moment I plan to, shall we say "dip my toe in the water" they only go and bloody plague the world. My late mother used to call me unlucky. I can't see there being any return to any kind of normality for the remainder of the year at least.

[Home Alone]

I genuinely couldn't have timed my return to punting life at a worse time. It's been well over ten years and the moment I plan to, shall we say "dip my toe in the water" they only go and bloody plague the world. My late mother used to call me unlucky. I can't see there being any return to any kind of normality for the remainder of the year at least.

All that; and managing West Ham, too. You really have the odds stacked against you, doncha?!!   

[JonasG]

Unfortunately however, there is still no sign of any government intention to lift the 2m social distancing measures for the foreseeable future (months ?), so it's difficult to see how a return to punting is going to be possible for ages yet, surely ?

From my understanding the 2nd wave will hit October ish maybe September, until whenever.

I think personally I might write this year off punting wise and get back into it at the start of 2021. And even then who knows ffs.

But we'll see how things develop. But certainly the social distancing isn't going to be lifted between the lifting of the lockdown and the 2nd wave quite frankly why would it?

[MrMatrix]

I genuinely couldn't have timed my return to punting life at a worse time. It's been well over ten years and the moment I plan to, shall we say "dip my toe in the water" they only go and bloody plague the world. My late mother used to call me unlucky. I can't see there being any return to any kind of normality for the remainder of the year at least.

Blimey 10 years and you've seen no escorts in that time. Thats a long lay off for a committed punter. So why did you stop punting then?

O and welcome to the forum and hopefully we will enjooy some of your reviews when we get back to some form of normality

[MrMatrix]

From my understanding the 2nd wave will hit October ish maybe September, until whenever.

I think personally I might write this year off punting wise and get back into it at the start of 2021. And even then who knows ffs.

But we'll see how things develop. But certainly the social distancing isn't going to be lifted between the lifting of the lockdown and the 2nd wave quite frankly why would it?

I agree with your summation here. I too will most likely w/o 2020 as a punter, but I live in hope

[HarryZZ]

I'm not sure where people are getting their information, hairdressing is currently set to restart on 4th July, so people saying there will be "no relaxing of the social distancing rules" are at odds with the governments current timetable.

Reading what's written here and elsewhere on other social media platforms with regards to returning to our pastimes, whether that be punting or watching sports, it's as if people believe that there's some sort of magical switch, that one day Boris will announce it's okay to return to our pre-pandemic activities and at that point there'll be no more virus, that punting on the Sunday of his announcement will be crazy but as restrictions are lifted at midnight a punt on Monday will be perfectly sensible.

If you think about it, and given the 4 week lag in the number of recorded deaths rather than counting the people who actually caught it on any particular day (an impossible task), we would actually be safer punting today than we were when this started to become an issue, the pubs were closed on 20th March, the numbers of deaths on that date were roughly similar to the deaths recorded over the last few days at just over 100 a day, and in the week leading up to the announcement people were only considering if we could continue punting or not, but the people who caught the virus at that time were actually at the peak of deaths a month later at over 1000 a day, right now people catching the virus today who will die in a months time will be around zero, in virus terms punting today is as safe as it was in January and February and previous years. Obviously that's on the back of the lockdown with pubs and work places closed, not to mention an almost complete cessation of punting, which presumably added to the numbers in some degree, but the reality is that the spike will return and will return when we're told that it's safe to resume our normal lives, consequently and perversely it is safer to punt today than it will be in a few weeks when lockdown restrictions are lifted.

Not that I'm returning any time soon even if I had the opportunity, punting is as much a mental activity as it is a physical one, and despite the numbers I will be very wary of getting intimate with a stranger for some time to come.

[ik8133]

I genuinely couldn't have timed my return to punting life at a worse time. It's been well over ten years and the moment I plan to, shall we say "dip my toe in the water" they only go and bloody plague the world. My late mother used to call me unlucky. I can't see there being any return to any kind of normality for the remainder of the year at least.

Welcome to UKP!  So it's all your fault this shitstorm has happened! 

[LLPunting]

I'm not sure where people are getting their information, hairdressing is currently set to restart on 4th July, so people saying there will be "no relaxing of the social distancing rules" are at odds with the governments current timetable.

Reading what's written here and elsewhere on other social media platforms with regards to returning to our pastimes, whether that be punting or watching sports, it's as if people believe that there's some sort of magical switch, that one day Boris will announce it's okay to return to our pre-pandemic activities and at that point there'll be no more virus, that punting on the Sunday of his announcement will be crazy but as restrictions are lifted at midnight a punt on Monday will be perfectly sensible.

If you think about it, and given the 4 week lag in the number of recorded deaths rather than counting the people who actually caught it on any particular day (an impossible task), we would actually be safer punting today than we were when this started to become an issue, the pubs were closed on 20th March, the numbers of deaths on that date were roughly similar to the deaths recorded over the last few days at just over 100 a day, and in the week leading up to the announcement people were only considering if we could continue punting or not, but the people who caught the virus at that time were actually at the peak of deaths a month later at over 1000 a day, right now people catching the virus today who will die in a months time will be around zero, in virus terms punting today is as safe as it was in January and February and previous years. Obviously that's on the back of the lockdown with pubs and work places closed, not to mention an almost complete cessation of punting, which presumably added to the numbers in some degree, but the reality is that the spike will return and will return when we're told that it's safe to resume our normal lives, consequently and perversely it is safer to punt today than it will be in a few weeks when lockdown restrictions are lifted.

Not that I'm returning any time soon even if I had the opportunity, punting is as much a mental activity as it is a physical one, and despite the numbers I will be very wary of getting intimate with a stranger for some time to come.

Your assertion would be true if you could guarantee that the number of infectious people today is no more and similarly spread as it was 3 months ago which is an absurd assumption to make.
Whilst we may have stemmed the flood of hospitalisations the fact that the authorities are struggling to get us back to "normal" life and they are talking about a second wave means that although the worst effects are dying down they believe the virus is still in with us and can be spread further.  We've shut the door on a burning building with people still inside, when we open it, the backdraft could make things worse.

We haven't seen the precautions that all the businesses will have to put in place in order to re-open.  You may be able to get closer than 2m to get a new coif but what both of you will need to be wearing hasn't been clarified yet.

If you are still unclear as to how much damage CoVID can cause and the difficulties the medics are having then read this External Link/Members Only

[usroads]

Just checked my HL and there's a lot more girls working today than last week... guess they've all taken a leaf out of Dominic Cummings book "How To Win Friends and Influence People"
When I return to punting it will most likely be with a regular I know well and who I'm pretty sure  has self isolated for the past couple of months - and it won't be for a while yet.

[sparkus]

Just checked my HL and there's a lot more girls working today than last week... guess they've all taken a leaf out of Dominic Cummings book "How To Win Friends and Influence People"
When I return to punting it will most likely be with a regular I know well and who I'm pretty sure  has self isolated for the past couple of months - and it won't be for a while yet.

Cummings is a punter?

Just had a look at Barnard Castle on AW (DL12), not a single profile shown.

[LLPunting]

Cummings is a punter?

Just had a look at Barnard Castle on AW (DL12), not a single profile shown.

He's a dogger, why else did he bring the missus there too?
People complaining are the ones who didn't get a look in.

[Doc Holliday]

We haven't seen the precautions that all the businesses will have to put in place in order to re-open.  You may be able to get closer than 2m to get a new coif but what both of you will need to be wearing hasn't been clarified yet.

Indeed. Hairdressing presents a cross infection challenge but is not insurmountable. Of course this is always about reducing a risk and not eliminating it.

I read the German (?) guidelines recently and they made sense. Ideally a customer enters and goes straight into the chair. No hanging around in waiting area reading magazines etc. You can have more than one customer depending on premise size and if it allows distancing etc. Gowns to be worn by customer and hairdresser. Masks for both and gloves for the hairdresser, although the customer can remove theirs temporarily from their ears if needed. Remain behind and to the side of the customer as much as possible. Obviously thorough cleaning and disinfection in between customers.

The one that made me laugh most though was that speech should be kept to a minimum. So "been on holiday anywhere nice lately?" may be a thing of the past. 

That regime is a million miles away from applying it to the punting situation ... although conceivably not FBSM?

[LLPunting]

Indeed. Hairdressing presents a cross infection challenge but is not insurmountable. Of course this is always about reducing a risk and not eliminating it.

I read the German (?) guidelines recently and they made sense. Ideally a customer enters and goes straight into the chair. No hanging around in waiting area reading magazines etc. You can have more than one customer depending on premise size and if it allows distancing etc. Gowns to be worn by customer and hairdresser. Masks for both and gloves for the hairdresser, although the customer can remove theirs temporarily from their ears if needed. Remain behind and to the side of the customer as much as possible. Obviously thorough cleaning and disinfection in between customers.

The one that made me laugh most though was that speech should be kept to a minimum. So "been on holiday anywhere nice lately?" may be a thing of the past. 

That regime is a million miles away from applying it to the punting situation ... although conceivably not FBSM?

Who says the Germans aren't funny?  Wearing gloves on their ears in a hairdressers...

Guess the barbers will have more than a few spare "ones for the weekend".

[Doc Holliday]

Who says the Germans aren't funny?  Wearing gloves on their ears in a hairdressers...

Ha Ha 

[winkywanky]

The one that made me laugh most though was that speech should be kept to a minimum. So "been on holiday anywhere nice lately?" may be a thing of the past. 

I can think of a suitable hand-signal for 'anything for the weekend, sir?'

[tobyk1]

Wealthier WGs should invest in some UV lamps and blast their rooms between sessions 

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Problem solved.

[LLPunting]

Wealthier WGs should invest in some UV lamps and blast their rooms between sessions 

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Problem solved.

No need, just have goggles for both/all parties and fuck under tanning lamps.
Admittedly explaining the thigh marks around face and waist and the buttock marks on your groin might take some explaining to the OH.

[tobyk1]

No need, just have goggles for both/all parties and fuck under tanning lamps.
Admittedly explaining the thigh marks around face and waist and the buttock marks on your groin might take some explaining to the OH.

 

[simon07]

Was looking at Punting so called Parlours in Milton Keynes at their Tweeter feeds. I wonder if they are listing their WGs mobile numbers so that punters can talk to the isolated ladies (I think mostly EE) in their isolation? Surely they are not planning dates are they?

[Payyourwaymate]

You see I don't share the gloom of a bigger crash than say the financial meltdown a decade plus ago or that we are going to be paying back the debt for generations. Let's be frank about it most of these economists hardly get many forecast right and most of their economic modelling is in tatters not long after it is published.

Insofar as punting timetable ... phased social distancing I believe will commence sometime in May. I would be extremely surprised if we are still in lockdown come June 1st. We will reach a point when the Govt will draw a line in the sand and say x % death rate is the price UK Ltd has to pay for Y% growth rate of the economy.

That will then be the signal of a "new normal" I also do not believe the job losses will be anything like the doomsday predictions being touted there is certainly no economic model out there that we can reasonably rely upon. In the last 10-15 years I have lost count how many highly remunerated think tanks have predicted a housing market crash and major portfolios were adjusted. Did it crash? Nope!

Going to have another look into my crystal ball see if it can tell me when some paid pussy will be sitting on my face again and if I need to taper my optimism   

JC...the taxpayers paid for the 08 crash through fiscal/austerity measures which drained the real economy whilst the rich avoided taxes using accounting loopholes. The economic polarization between social classes and asset price inflation for the last decade is evident no? They will be footing the bill on this too. I honesty don't think punting will be the same for WGs with the loss of income of punters. The last crisis was not to do with the real economy being completely put on hold. This one is, no one has ever seen this before.

If everything goes wonderfully as you seem to think, prices and punting goes back to "normal" according to your timeline of Nov-Dec, I will personally pay for a punt of your choice of up to £250. Anonymously of course.

I am not joking, that's how much I think it will not happen. If it does hold me to my word I'll send you the ££££ for the punt of your choice and If I don't you can get me banned .

JC, looks like we will have to call it a tie. Punting slowly started to go back albeit with higher prices in some areas. The economy is screwed though and now we are going into another lockdown. Will be interesting to see what happens next year. 

[Home Alone]

I know why you reopened this thread, Payyourwaymate; I just wanted to thank you for doing so. It's been fascinating re-reading all the posts from the early days of the first lockdown, as I guess we'll probably be calling it. Some of our guesses about when normality would return to punting seem, the the light of the lockdown due to begin on Thursday, a wee bit optimistic.

Fwiw, I still haven't punted since last December but have been tempted twice to arrange a booking which I've subsequently cancelled. Once with a genuine illness - NOT the virus; but what I'd have recognised twelve months ago as a bad cough and sore throat - and once with simple fear of the enhanced risk of catching the virus as I live in a Tier 3 area.

Looking back at, in particular, the second cancellation, it's taught me to be patient. Using a wartime metaphor, I'll now definitely wait for the All-clear to sound before I book another SP and reach for my Tadalafil.

[Doc Holliday]

... and the OP author was deemed trolling and was banned 

[MrMatrix]

Fwiw, I still haven't punted since last December but have been tempted twice to arrange a booking which I've subsequently cancelled. Once with a genuine illness - NOT the virus; but what I'd have recognised twelve months ago as a bad cough and sore throat - and once with simple fear of the enhanced risk of catching the virus as I live in a Tier 3 area.

I've not had a punted since mid March. and its starting to do my head in. But patience is the key word. No point n rushing out there and catching something you really dont want. 

[mh]

Fwiw, I still haven't punted since last December but have been tempted twice to arrange a booking which I've subsequently cancelled.

Yes the same time since my last punt but I don't feel like arranging a meet at all. Just window shopping for now. 

[chadpitt]

Lockdown has made things worse not better.

The sex biz works on reverse logic.

Fewer customers - increase prices
Fewer customers - decrease services and make everything extra
Fewer jobs - decrease in WGs

Honestly I think that's it for 2020. No more visits

[funfungoodguy]

Interesting piece on Radio 4 this morning, Woman's Hour;
- Representative of English Collective of Prostitutes saying they are suffering due to lack of access to Government Support during these hard times. The piece was supposed to be about how some Sex Workers have diversified into online photo and video sharing platforms during Covid. (these being online forums where the platform provider takes a cut and the flow of money of course has an audit trail)  - maybe many are adopting trade through that route?

But conveniently ignored the entirely cash earnings and how many of them do not pay their taxes fully in times of normal trading, and also the fact that it is quite wrong to say their industry has been shut down since as we all know there are loads of SW's still working throughout, a point not mentioned by the ECP speaker this morning.

[sparkus]

Interesting piece on Radio 4 this morning, Woman's Hour;
- Representative of English Collective of Prostitutes saying they are suffering due to lack of access to Government Support during these hard times. The piece was supposed to be about how some Sex Workers have diversified into online photo and video sharing platforms during Covid. (these being online forums where the platform provider takes a cut and the flow of money of course has an audit trail)  - maybe many are adopting trade through that route?

But conveniently ignored the entirely cash earnings and how many of them do not pay their taxes fully in times of normal trading, and also the fact that it is quite wrong to say their industry has been shut down since as we all know there are loads of SW's still working throughout, a point not mentioned by the ECP speaker this morning.

In fairness it's hardly going to help their members to draw attention to this fact, she's doing her job properly really.  So, yes, I welcome wholeheartedly all the camming and Onlyfans diversification that WGs will be doing next month to keep their income intact in a way that satisfies politicians and Guardianistas (gosh, how empowering!)

[Wowee]

Because of my job I'm at the very top of the government's list to get the vaccine.
I was musing whether if I might be the first to get on a distant beach for a well-earned break, but reading this makes me wonder if I could be the first to bang the cream of the WGs.
It's definitely going to be a time to make the best of!

[Jerk Chicken]

JC, looks like we will have to call it a tie. Punting slowly started to go back albeit with higher prices in some areas. The economy is screwed though and now we are going into another lockdown. Will be interesting to see what happens next year.

Yep I can run with that. A tie is a fair shout. Punting and reviews returned at even a faster rate than I thought in July but WGs prices went north too; I didn’t see that coming.

Although my dick is now safely tucked away and won’t be seeing p4p anytime soon I just don’t see the same compliance insofar as punting is concerned in Lockdown 2.

[GingerNuts]

Because of my job I'm at the very top of the government's list to get the vaccine.
I was musing whether if I might be the first to get on a distant beach for a well-earned break, but reading this makes me wonder if I could be the first to bang the cream of the WGs.
It's definitely going to be a time to make the best of!

You must work in a care home, the top priority is "Older adults resident in a care home and care home workers".

[petermisc]

You must work in a care home, the top priority is "Older adults resident in a care home and care home workers".

Or a government minister.  (I must stop being so cynical)

[stevedave]

Because of my job I'm at the very top of the government's list to get the vaccine.
I was musing whether if I might be the first to get on a distant beach for a well-earned break, but reading this makes me wonder if I could be the first to bang the cream of the WGs.
It's definitely going to be a time to make the best of!

Boris?

[tynetunnel]

Boris?

[purple_t]

Call me a cynic, but I think the glory days of punting are over. Actually I'd go further than that and say that punting in the UK is on its death bed.

Girls can make good money from Onlyfans and camming. That was the case last few years anyway, but Covid has accelerated it.

The problem is many zoomer (generation Z) guys would be too anxious to go ahead with a punt and are content using Onlyfans or watching a girl on cam. They are too pathetic to realise that the girls who say they will consider a meet after multiple cam sessions, are lying through their teeth, and those guys aren't confident enough to go through with a punt with somebody they haven't cammed with.

I watched a YouTube video of a girl breaking down how much she earned on Onlyfans in the 5 months or so that she used it. She was average attractiveness and didn't even post nudes on there. In one month she was making close to what I do working full-time in an office job on a decent salary. So I can only imagine how much the hot girls who post nudes make.

There will be a minority of girls who would prefer to do real life sex work, but I imagine most would prefer the safety of camming/Onlyfans, although it seems like a lonely way to make a living. Most British girls on AW who cam charge around £2 a minute... slightly less money than they'd make from a punt (and no doubt a few goes to Onlyfans and camming sites), but there's less overheads (i.e. no need to rent a separate flat), and less danger of abusive guys, catching STDs etc.

I think if the pendulum is to swing back the other way, it will be because the online market becomes so oversaturated that there's too much competition

[daviemac]

Call me a cynic, but I think the glory days of punting are over. Actually I'd go further than that and say that punting in the UK is on its death bed.

Girls can make good money from Onlyfans and camming. That was the case last few years anyway, but Covid has accelerated it.

The problem is many zoomer (generation Z) guys would be too anxious to go ahead with a punt and are content using Onlyfans or watching a girl on cam. They are too pathetic to realise that the girls who say they will consider a meet after multiple cam sessions, are lying through their teeth, and those guys aren't confident enough to go through with a punt with somebody they haven't cammed with.

I watched a YouTube video of a girl breaking down how much she earned on Onlyfans in the 5 months or so that she used it. She was average attractiveness and didn't even post nudes on there. In one month she was making close to what I do working full-time in an office job on a decent salary. So I can only imagine how much the hot girls who post nudes make.

There will be a minority of girls who would prefer to do real life sex work, but I imagine most would prefer the safety of camming/Onlyfans, although it seems like a lonely way to make a living. Most British girls on AW who cam charge around £2 a minute... slightly less money than they'd make from a punt (and no doubt a few goes to Onlyfans and camming sites), but there's less overheads (i.e. no need to rent a separate flat), and less danger of abusive guys, catching STDs etc.

I think if the pendulum is to swing back the other way, it will be because the online market becomes so oversaturated that there's too much competition

OnlyFans take 20% commission, AW about 30 / 40% so don't go off what they charge.  There will always be enough escorts to service punters, it isn't going to die any time soon.

[sparkus]

Call me a cynic, but I think the glory days of punting are over. Actually I'd go further than that and say that punting in the UK is on its death bed.

Girls can make good money from Onlyfans and camming. That was the case last few years anyway, but Covid has accelerated it.

The problem is many zoomer (generation Z) guys would be too anxious to go ahead with a punt and are content using Onlyfans or watching a girl on cam. They are too pathetic to realise that the girls who say they will consider a meet after multiple cam sessions, are lying through their teeth, and those guys aren't confident enough to go through with a punt with somebody they haven't cammed with.

I watched a YouTube video of a girl breaking down how much she earned on Onlyfans in the 5 months or so that she used it. She was average attractiveness and didn't even post nudes on there. In one month she was making close to what I do working full-time in an office job on a decent salary. So I can only imagine how much the hot girls who post nudes make.

There will be a minority of girls who would prefer to do real life sex work, but I imagine most would prefer the safety of camming/Onlyfans, although it seems like a lonely way to make a living. Most British girls on AW who cam charge around £2 a minute... slightly less money than they'd make from a punt (and no doubt a few goes to Onlyfans and camming sites), but there's less overheads (i.e. no need to rent a separate flat), and less danger of abusive guys, catching STDs etc.

I think if the pendulum is to swing back the other way, it will be because the online market becomes so oversaturated that there's too much competition

I don't get to see a lot of punters but on the occasions I do most of the ones I've spotted in the last few years have been younger than me (e.g. around late 20s), in the past five years I've only seen two older blokes.  That's a small sample but likely to be representative.

I get what you're saying but I think what's happened is that the supply end has been crowded out by Latinas, Roms and Hungarians (in London), on AW there's barely any Indians now and the ebony WGs on there are concentrated in central/east London and part of that ropey group of B&S.  There's the odd one here and there.  In London there's barely any British WGs now, as in the MILF amateur kind and the ones there are charge top dollar.

Gone are the days of being able to type in your postcode and seeing what promising new WGs had sprung up, nipping out for a quickie.  Gone are the days of brothels with 'United Nations' line ups to pick from.