not seen either but chatted with amy lots on cam, was going to go and have one to one with her but she wanted a hotel room, and would have been traveling 100 miles for the fun so thought fuck it, seen a few movie clips with them, but tiffs boyfriend thinks he's a porn star to be, so not keen either, always think girls with boyfriends hold something back, hence no kissing maybe, and the movies are very staged which is not that good either, would be nice to hear from someone that has done the deed with them both just so we know they are fun,