Make UKPunting trans-friendly

[Anadin]

Would you shag your favourite WG if she had a cock but offered the same great service?   

I've always wondered would Shakira with a cock tempt me haha

It's a good question and for me it's a no. That being said the amount of paranoia on this website about post-ops infected me for a short while and I genuinely wondered about that, I'm not sure I'd be that bothered if I found out my favourite WG was born male if I couldn't tell. Might be a bit bitter about them keeping schtum about it though.

[Loverat]

What do you mean my definition?

If a guy goes with a girl that's straight, if he goes with another guy that's Gay, no problem with what you want to do but don't expect to re write the dictionary to ease your mind.

And as for who cares, you clearly do as you're calling blokes "she"

The kind explanation of your posts is that you, as usual, are trolling.
On the other hand, if you really view sexuality in such black and white terms, then that would be just just sad.

[Vivago]

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Don't fancy yours, mate.

Now my little 'cock in a frock' is a different matter. I am, I guess 95% solid hetero but with him/her/it, I came over a little queer. 

I always suspect that its a case of the 'lady protesteth too much' scenario of those who claim to be most vociferously anti-ts.

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[mh]

If a guy goes with a girl that's straight, if he goes with another guy that's Gay, no problem with what you want to do but don't expect to re write the dictionary to ease your mind.

No need to rewrite the dictionary, though, is there?

There's gay, straight and several shades in between. I've never knowingly shagged a TS and would not ever arrange a meet with a "bloke in a dress", but I would not completely rule out a meet with someone like Vivago's example, if the opportunity arose. Like Vivago, I also think only those not confident of their own sexuality are threatened by "non-binary" possibilities. Most of us punt women with varying degrees of femininity. Some men like to receive a strap-on shafting from a WG. If a TS has a better body, better tits and gives a better BJ than many women, why worry about it?

I always suspect that its a case of the 'lady protesteth too much' scenario of those who claim to be most vociferously anti-ts.

Now my little 'cock in a frock' is a different matter. I am, I guess 95% solid hetero but with him/her/it, I came over a little queer. 
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[threechilliman]

I've seen a couple of TS's and have reviewed them without any concern for negative comments. I'd do so again as well. I do it for the benefit of those guys who want to visit a TS - to help them make a choice. Not really any different to reviewing a girl - the aim is to help others choose wisely.

I think some tend to forget this site is here to help us as punters, however we choose to punt. Comments that ridicule don't help anybody - I actually find them quite amusing.

As for the debate on whether to use he or she, I think it's a mindset thing. I use she as for me she's a bird with a dick - I know full well that's not really the case but that's what my eye's tell my brain. For others its a guy in a dress. Either is fine with me, not even sure there's an argument here - personal choice as to how you see it.

As for my sexuality I consider myself bi-curious. I like girls really, nothing nicer, just don't mind a bit of cock from time to time. It is just the cock I like, not really fussed who it belongs to

tcm

[fredpunter]

I don't understand why some folk think that blokes who don't want to get intimate with other blokes must feel threatened by them.  I don't want to kiss or fuck other blokes ... it's not because I feel threatened it's because the thought of it makes my stomach churn. I just dont fancy them.

As I said earlier ... and as James has said though I rarely agree with him .... each to their own but don't pretend it isn't what it is. When writing a review make it clear in the title that the prossie is ts and I won't read it and anyone else who feels the same as me shouldn't read it either.

[mh]

I don't understand why some folk think that blokes who don't want to get intimate with other blokes must feel threatened by them.  I don't want to kiss or fuck other blokes ... it's not because I feel threatened it's because the thought of it makes my stomach churn. I just dont fancy them.

As I said earlier ... and as James has said though I rarely agree with him .... each to their own but don't pretend it isn't what it is. When writing a review make it clear in the title that the prossie is ts and I won't read it and anyone else who feels the same as me shouldn't read it either.

It's not at all a comment on those who don't fancy it, there will be a huge percentage of punters who don't fancy it and have no interest in it. It's a comment on those who feel the need to ridicule those who do fancy it when supposedly they themselves have no interest in it.

[James999]

On the other hand, if you really view sexuality in such black and white terms,

It is, check the birth certificates, it's either male or female, there is no other option 

[MilesPrower]

I left a review recently, got a few PMs thanking me.

I'm all for it, no place for hate on here.

[pumps]

Interesting thread, I'm not surprised to see those that are quite passionate about this place being Trans friendly    and not surprised to see  those who aren't hot on it.

Personally I'd like to see a few reviews for Trannies, but I do cringe sometimes when I see "she" being written (esp if its a man in a wig type) but deep down I know its the correct way to format the review (referring to the ts as a She) without looking like an arse, as long as the punter isn't kidding himself.

Maybe admin could make another forum, and rail road the TS forums out of business, UKtranEscorting.com - win win, no overfluffinated mods and no trolls 

[mash]

The site rules do say reviews on trans is ok. If it offends some people, a separate sub forum would help. No need to separate into region as the scene is tiny in comparison to the m/f scene.

I agree, sites like hungangels are fluffy as fuck, it would be great to have a place for honest reviews on trans escorts.

[Loverat]

It is, check the birth certificates, it's either male or female, there is no other option 

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Seems the government has a more enlightened view

[Hydrant]

James999 seems determined to prove the OP's original point with as many variations on the same neanderthal viewpoint as he can. Just for sake of argument, James, if someone joined your workplace who was trans or going through the he-to-she process, if she dressed as a woman, and everyone else in the office/factory/bus depot/whatever was happy to call that person "she" and "her", would you still insist on referring to her as "he" and "him"? And if so, would it strike you as unfair that everyone then thought you were a bit of a throwback, to use the politest word I can think of?

[cueball]

I really don't see the point in sub forums/seperate sections/new forums.

I've seen criticisms of ts reviews, fat girl reviews, old girl reviews, black girl reviews etc etc etc, the list goes on.

You can either post a retort or accept the criticism or report the post. I'd go for the retort but I do enjoy a comedy internet barny.

It's not as if there's a complete tsunami of insults and abuse is there!

Any forum is about opinions and the right to have your say.

[signy]

I would agree with having a TV/TS section (with my newbie opinion). Those people strongly opposed can then avoid, and it is clearer than a "warning" at the top.

On the pronoun issue, everyone should be allowed to self-define. It costs me nothing to call someone he, she or whatever they like, and might just make them a little happier in their lives. Why wouldn't I do it?

[theHappyLondonPigeon]

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Could you post a review please?

[G.Raff]

- Suffice to state clearly TS/TV or whatever in the title of the review, no need for a separate section IMO. One of the nice things about UKP is its minimalist thread structure.

I agree about an individual's right to self determine how they want to be addressed.

The "resident troll" is the best way to describe Mr 999, the majority of his posts are primarily intended to wind up others.

[backofthenet]

Just for sake of argument, James, if someone joined your workplace

'workplace' - don't make me laugh

[Jim Panzee]

They pop up on Tinder from time to time. 

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[James999]

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Looks like catweazle 

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[Jerboa]

They pop up on Tinder from time to time. 

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Jesus that would want me to smash my phone! 

[Jim Panzee]

Seen this pair of semen demons whilst browsing one of the chan's earlier. 

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[jaszyj87]

If you dont fancy someone it doesnt matter.
I find some women attractive and some trans attractive.

Id rather fuck TS pornstar Aubrey Kate than Rebel Wilson

if you dont like trans dont comment

[cueball]

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Bloody hell, a red dwarf extra 

Check out the necklace of dockers 

[Jim Panzee]

if you dont like trans dont comment

I only like chubby ones. 

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[Fasting]

 

[pumps]

I only like chubby ones. 

oh common, 

[maxxblue]

If you dont fancy someone it doesnt matter.
I find some women attractive and some trans attractive.

Id rather fuck TS pornstar Aubrey Kate than Rebel Wilson

if you dont like trans dont comment

Why not? It is a discussion site, after all.

[Jim Panzee]

Don't get me wrong some are hot as fuck.



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[Fasting]

Why not? It is a discussion site, after all.

No discussion to be found, just bigotry.

[Dicky]

Cannot believe that a discussion has gone on for four pages about whether a she/he/it is correct. Fucking wren and martins residing in UK looks like. Just label your reviews with a TS and call them whatever you like...he..she...it...who cares. If someone suffers from an anus-cringe while reading a she for a TS, who gives a fuck. Cant please everyone.

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Of course some trans women just aren't convincing. What's your point. Some 'genetic' women are ugly.

You may also find many examples on UKPunting of punters who've fucked post-op TS prostitutes without realising their little secret. So clearly some transgender women are 'passable'.

A 'trans' woman is a someone who has undergone treatments, i.e. hormonal, surgical, psychosocial etc, to transition from one gender to another.

This clearly isn't a trans woman - it's a bloke wearing a dress and a wig.

[Dicky]

No discussion to be found, just bigotry.

As admin said...if you find comments to be bigoted or bullying, just report them. No need to try and change their opinions...they wont change their just as you wont change yours.

[Fasting]

As admin said...if you find comments to be bigoted or bullying, just report them. No need to try and change their opinions...they wont change their just as you wont change yours.

Already have done.

I suggest they sign up to gay forums and post pictures of ugly men in the future.

[Leicpokerboy]

I've seen around 40-50 shemales. Some of the worst punts ever but when you find a good one they very good. 8 out of my top 10 punts are shemales. I personally don't care what peoe call them if I have a great time with them that's all that matters. Plenty of reviews to be found on hung angels by honest well respected members.

[James999]

I suggest they sign up to gay forums and post pictures of ugly men in the future.

Did you used to work on pro$$ienet as a moderator, as you sure seem to have a very controlling and censoring approach, you have a bigoted view and want to surpress any alternative view.

If you are so keen to create another forum for Trannies then why not do it, why try and turn UKP into something it's not, as others have said there's tranny reviews all over the net and some here.

You realise UKP is better, but the reason it's better is because it's different with a light touch to moderation and more of a "blokes changing room / pub" feel to it.

You're a bit like the indian who comes to the UK for its freedoms, he leaves india because it's a shit hole and full of secular religious racism, and when hes here he starts to abuse the freedoms he came here for and turn this place into the shit hole he came from.

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[Brazilian Martian]

My point is quite simple.   

There are some stunning trannies around -------------- I have been to Thailand 25+ times ----------- but some trannies can be described as a man in a dress, such as the example I gave.

Maybe you would be happier sticking to forums that specialise in trannies --------- Google ------- Hung Angels.

+100

[pumps]

Don't get me wrong some are hot as fuck.



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im gay. ^^


No seriously op, just post your TS reviews and just accept the good and the bad comments (just like when I review a munter - I rise above the negativity because I know were all free to comment without fear of over moderation). This forum isn't really crying out for TS reviews so the majority wont give two fucks anyway if you post or not.

[cockneybstrd]

Sounds a bit of a strawman argument debate don't go your way so cry bigitory

If you want to fuck a man dressed as a woman so be it. No skin of my nose but let's be honest if they have a cock it's a geezer with tits your fucking. Nothing bad in it per se but don't dress it up (no pun) intended to be something it's not

You liking fucking men with tits

We all have different choices but to try and dress it as something else is just bizarre

A pig in dress and lipstick is still a pig

[James999]

Sounds a bit of a strawman argument debate don't go your way so cry bigitory

If you want to fuck a man dressed as a woman so be it. No skin of my nose but let's be honest if they have a cock it's a geezer with tits your fucking. Nothing bad in it per se but don't dress it up (no pun) intended to be something it's not

You liking fucking men with tits

We all have different choices but to try and dress it as something else is just bizarre

A pig in dress and lipstick is still a pig

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[Jim Panzee]

They will wanting to be able to pop into the ladies toilets to take a dump next. Mark my words.

[Fasting]

If on every review of a black WG, posters filled the pages with racial slurs and images of negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

Racism, homophobia, transphobia -- all equivalent.

The thread isn't going anywhere, probably best to leave it now.

[Jimmyredcab]

If on every review of a black WG, posters filled the pages with racial slurs and images of negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

Racism, homophobia, transphobia -- all equivalent.

The thread isn't going anywhere, probably best to leave it now.

You appear to want this forum to go down the politially correct route ------------ I really can't see that happening any time soon.     

[James999]

negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

But you don't want to tolerate the Fat ones, as it doesn't fit your bigotted agenda 

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[cueball]

If on every review of a black WG, posters filled the pages with racial slurs and images of negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

Eh? I'm not seeing that?

Any of the ts reviews I've read have contained mostly supportive posts, one or two criticisms but nothing major.

I think you're mixing it up between a review thread and a thread on ts punting.

You've got a thread running on the main board, you reep what you sow.

You're over reacting with regards to reviews and you're making yourself look a bit of a tit by whining about what members post on this and other threads.

If you're that annoyed, report the post to the boss. If he deletes it then fine, if he leaves it then still fine. His site, his rules.

[punther]

I have no interest in Post Ops, Pre Ops or Blokes

but I'm all for improvements to the site

Dont know if this has already been mentioned as i cant be bothered to read through all the replies but would it be possible to have a Dropdown on the review page where a reviewer can select
1) Genetic Female
2) Post-Op
3) Pre-Op

or simply

1) Genetic Female
2) Transsexual

and this will categorise the review in a similar way reviews are categorised by region

This way all TS reviews will have their own section on the site

[smiths]

If on every review of a black WG, posters filled the pages with racial slurs and images of negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

Racism, homophobia, transphobia -- all equivalent.

The thread isn't going anywhere, probably best to leave it now.

Jeez, what a moaner you are. UKP ISNT politically correct and some of us like it like that, its an oasis in a sea of politically correct claptrap. Long may it remain so.

[Brazilian Martian]

If on every review of a black WG, posters filled the pages with racial slurs and images of negative stereotypes, it wouldn't be tolerated.

Racism, homophobia, transphobia -- all equivalent.

The thread isn't going anywhere, probably best to leave it now.

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[James999]

The OP got the last bloke he met to fuck him up the arse, after an in depth description of his cock, but as the bloke was wearing a dress that wasn't gay 

[threechilliman]

Jeez, what a moaner you are. UKP ISNT politically correct and some of us like it like that, its an oasis in a sea of politically correct claptrap. Long may it remain so.

Yeah, agreed. Can't be doing with political correctness at the best of times. It gets in the way of a having a good time!

tcm