Dodgy Deposit Dodging

[SynDee]

I fully understand why the deposit scheme has been put in place by some SP's for many reasons im sure you can think of......HOWEVER........its come to my attention that some 'SP's' are abusing the system and taking deposits and not actually attending the booking.  this needs some enforcement in place surely as its theft in my eyes. however there are ways around the deposit scheme/scam i was wondering if anyone has also found an honest lejit way so both parties are happy and secure?
just putting it out there, many of my p's have been badly affected by this and just wondering how other P's secure a booking.
i myself have devised a way just wanna hear yours x

[Billy no mates]

I think you will find here the ‘deposit system’ is universally despised. The advice constantly given on this forum is “DO NOT GIVE DEPOSITS”.

If there is a way for both parties to be satisfied and some sort of despot system in place then I doubt you would have any complaints if both parties are protected.

I usually only have outcalls and to my recollection I have never paid a deposit.

[houseboot]

I usually only have outcalls and to my recollection I have never paid a deposit.

Mrs Mertens would have an answer to that

[bristolnick]

I paid a deposit once years ago and got done over. Learnt my lesson the hard way.

[HawkG]

I understand why you want to protect yourself against time wasters, but no sensible punter pays a deposit ahead of a booking.

[RedKettle]

I fully understand why the deposit scheme has been put in place by some SP's for many reasons im sure you can think of......HOWEVER........its come to my attention that some 'SP's' are abusing the system and taking deposits and not actually attending the booking.  this needs some enforcement in place surely as its theft in my eyes. however there are ways around the deposit scheme/scam i was wondering if anyone has also found an honest lejit way so both parties are happy and secure?
just putting it out there, many of my p's have been badly affected by this and just wondering how other P's secure a booking.
i myself have devised a way just wanna hear yours x

I explain politely why I will not pay a deposit and on both occasions I assume the way I did it plus my AW feedback have meant that it was waived.  One of those became a regular for a while.

[tesla]

I have never paid a deposit, I only book SP's though AW and my feedback on there is usually way more than any SP has. So I point it out to who is asking me for a deposit, it demonstrates I am not a time waster. If they are not happy with that I take my business elsewhere

[1599337]

I've been tempted by some profiles with this before but I don't trust them to not just take the money and go

[JontyR]

I gave this some thought and the only way I could think it would work is if there was a system in place that was similar to some online purchasing websites. ie you buy a item (in this case a deposit for a booking). The money goes into a wallett. And when the confirmation comes the button is clicked and the money is released.

It would require both parties though to be really careful about this. Because a failure to click the button at the start of a booking would lead to the potential of abuse and disputes about whether the meeting took place or not.

This would, I feel, swing the potential for abuse way from unscrupulous SPs to unscrupulous punters. So I don't think SPs or Sergei's would go for it.

Thats before the legal position of the wallett holder comes into it which would need a more informed mind than mine to detail on.

[Atrueyorkie]

Never doing a deposit. If I hear deposit I end all communication, straight away gives scammer vibes.

I think the best way would be for it to be managed by AW. That way any deposited sent via AW can be contested or reviewed if the person was scammed.

Calling your bank and saying you sent money to somebody you’ve never met before is just the biggest facepalm you could do.

Bank: Sure what’s her name

Me: uhhh she goes by on AW

Bank: ……

[Lou2019]

This subject has been done to death 

My take on it is only pay a deposit to well reviewed established SPs.
It wouldn’t be worth damaging our reputation by scamming someone out of £50.

[tp69]

Never paying a deposit, no chance. Totally open to being scammed.

However, AW feedback system requires some work. From what I understand either party can only provide feedback if the person booked via AW. It should have a 2 way authorisation which allows both parties to provide feedback on each other without the booking taking place through the website.

I have no feedback on AW as I tend to use their numbers directly , and can't provide feedback on them for the same reason. Means that a lot of girls end up with 0 feedback even though they're busy.

Having better feedback/ranking of punters would lessen the need to take deposits.

[JPin]

I did... For my first punt and I got a hail of disgruntled responses when I posted my review. Now I understand why, never again.

[lamboman]

It wouldn’t be worth damaging our reputation by scamming someone out of £50.

I can recall that happening on more than one occasion.

[shed]

This subject has been done to death 

Totally agree. Some people must sit there thinking they must start a thread hoping it gets a good following. Too many new threads being started that have been done to death in the past.

[daviemac]

I fully understand why the deposit scheme has been put in place by some SP's for many reasons im sure you can think of......HOWEVER........its come to my attention that some 'SP's' are abusing the system and taking deposits and not actually attending the booking.  this needs some enforcement in place surely as its theft in my eyes. however there are ways around the deposit scheme/scam i was wondering if anyone has also found an honest lejit way so both parties are happy and secure?
just putting it out there, many of my p's have been badly affected by this and just wondering how other P's secure a booking.
i myself have devised a way just wanna hear yours x

As has already been said on this thread, this subject has been done to death. There's regular discussions in the general discussions section and has been for years, there are discussions on the subject in every local area discussion section plus numerous reviews involving punters getting scammed after paying a deposit.

The vast majority of members of this site are totally against paying a deposit as you should know by reading the threads.

I would hate to think this thread was a covert way of promoting yourself and you're deposit scheme, that aside as this is not a support site for sex workers perhaps asking how members manage deposit requests is not appropriate.   
 

[TomTank]

If you've devised a way, why won't you share it here?

I agree with Davie .... just self-promotion

[daviemac]

If you've devised a way, why won't you share it here?

I agree with Davie .... just self-promotion

The one and only safe and sure way of paying a deposit is by putting it in her hand with the rest of the fee when in the room.

[pbrown355]

Never paid one. Never paying one.

[Landscape]

Never paid one and never will, though did get some snarky replies when I asked the WGs how many people have fallen for this con so far. 

[lamboman]

 just self-promotion

Might be if I had any idea who she is.

[victor989]

I like to keep my punting life simple. I will never pay a deposit, under any circumstances. No 'ifs or buts'.
Many WG's charge more than 15 times the UK minimum wage for their services and yet have the nerve
to ask for a deposit !

[daviemac]

Might be if I had any idea who she is.

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to work it out. She's one of the easiest SPs on here for the average member to identify.   

I'm not going to help her promote herself by naming her.

[HawkG]

Might be if I had any idea who she is.

Advert removed.

[Colston36]

I paid a deposit once years ago and got done over. Learnt my lesson the hard way.

Ditto, in 2015.

Mind you, there are so many no shows I understand why the ladies do it.

[daviemac]

Advert removed.

Did you not read the post above your's.   

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to work it out. She's one of the easiest SPs on here for the average member to identify.   

I'm not going to help her promote herself by naming her.

I can't see any other reason for her to start this thread other than to covertly promote herself, we don't need members helping her.

[BarneyBubbles]

Always a red flag for me... and I'm burdened with a joint bank account with the wife so any transfers would be a no-no anyway

[TomTank]

Did you not read the post above your's.   

I can't see any other reason for her to start this thread other than to covertly promote herself, we don't need members helping her.

I actually can't work out who she is, and am quite interested now, not in seeing her but knowing who it is .... would a PM be possible if you don't want to put it on here?

[GingerNuts]

I actually can't work out who she is, and am quite interested now, not in seeing her but knowing who it is .... would a PM be possible if you don't want to put it on here?

It's easy to work out if you look at her post history.

[TomTank]

It's easy to work out if you look at her post history.

thanks will do .... I'd assumed it was something to do with the photo

[shed]

I actually can't work out who she is, and am quite interested now, not in seeing her but knowing who it is .... would a PM be possible if you don't want to put it on here?

Why do you want to know who it is if you are not interested in seeing her 

[TomTank]

I actually can't work out who she is, and am quite interested now, not in seeing her but knowing who it is .... would a PM be possible if you don't want to put it on here?

Why do you want to know who it is if you are not interested in seeing her 

to check and see if it was someone I'd ever considered seeing, plus give some context to my suspicion that she is a self-promoter  .... why, what were you thinking the reason might be?

[SynDee]

self promoter? i wrote this subject as i'm fed up of seeing my clients getting damaged by scams.

[SynDee]

I gave this some thought and the only way I could think it would work is if there was a system in place that was similar to some online purchasing websites. ie you buy a item (in this case a deposit for a booking). The money goes into a wallett. And when the confirmation comes the button is clicked and the money is released.

It would require both parties though to be really careful about this. Because a failure to click the button at the start of a booking would lead to the potential of abuse and disputes about whether the meeting took place or not.

This would, I feel, swing the potential for abuse way from unscrupulous SPs to unscrupulous punters. So I don't think SPs or Sergei's would go for it.

Thats before the legal position of the wallett holder comes into it which would need a more informed mind than mine to detail on.

good thought but there is a much better way x

[SynDee]

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to work it out. She's one of the easiest SPs on here for the average member to identify.   

I'm not going to help her promote herself by naming her.

I aint self promoting, as being a member on this site i have every right to put comments out there, im simply getting fresh thoughts and ideas from people on this site as i cant bare to see another one of my clients being done over, ive devised a way round the problem however wanted to hear what other people do around the situation xx

[contentguy]

self promoter? i wrote this subject as i'm fed up of seeing my clients getting damaged by scams.

The easiest solution for the punter to prevent getting deposit scammed is to never pay a deposit.

If you have a way to prevent your ‘clients’ from getting damaged by scams, do share.

But right now, you appear to have dusty phone syndrome, just sayin’.

 

[daviemac]

I aint self promoting, as being a member on this site i have every right to put comments out there, im simply getting fresh thoughts and ideas from people on this site as i cant bare to see another one of my clients being done over, ive devised a way round the problem however wanted to hear what other people do around the situation xx

Yes, as long as you abide by the rules which are outlined below.

2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

If you are that concerned about your clients being scammed after paying deposits tell them to sign up to this site and start here, - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=8088.msg118540#msg118540 -  work their way forward through multiple threads over the following 10 years and see how many times people are told not to pay a deposit.

[HawkG]

I actually can't work out who she is

Well you can do what I did and look at her post history. I tried to save you the effort but someone decided to be a dick about it.

[HawkG]

Advert removed.

“Advert” blimey. I’ve never seen her and have no intention to, I’ve seen enough nutters in my time.

It was not an advert, it was well-intentioned answering someone’s query.

(Quite the opposite to an advert, The linked thread would surely put most people off!

[SynDee]

??? Pardon???

[SynDee]

I understand why you want to protect yourself against time wasters, but no sensible punter pays a deposit ahead of a booking.

New to me and only put out there as people I know have been badly affected

[SynDee]

Yes, as long as you abide by the rules which are outlined below.

2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

If you are that concerned about your clients being scammed after paying deposits tell them to sign up to this site and start here, - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=8088.msg118540#msg118540 -  work their way forward through multiple threads over the following 10 years and see how many times people are told not to pay a deposit.

Where is my crime? I've every right to be here too and I'm contributing to the site. Any problems get the boss to contact me. I've done nowt wrong other than start a topic that's close to my heart coz people I know have been affected x

[pbrown355]

Then put your solution out there. You are starting to sound like one of those internet scam ads that tell you to look at how some celebrity from years ago looks now then takes you through some long drawn out set of slides, covered in adverts, before eventually showing you the celebrity looking exactly how you expected them to look.
Plus, I think like all of us you only have a right to be here as long as the mods say so.
So please put up or shut up.

[daviemac]

“Advert” blimey. I’ve never seen her and have no intention to, I’ve seen enough nutters in my time.

It was not an advert, it was well-intentioned answering someone’s query.

(Quite the opposite to an advert, The linked thread would surely put most people off!

What part of "I'm not going to help her promote herself by naming her. did you not understand.   

[daviemac]

Where is my crime? I've every right to be here too and I'm contributing to the site. Any problems get the boss to contact me. I've done nowt wrong other than start a topic that's close to my heart coz people I know have been affected x

As a moderator of the site I don't need 'the boss' to contact you, I've pointed the rules out and if you continue in the manner you are now I will ban you.

Just to make it absolutely clear, I said in my previous post that if you are that concerned about your punters getting scammed then tell them to join here, put 'deposit' in the search function and start at this post and work forward 10 years. -

Sadly spot on. A/W remains the best for locating WGs so while that is the case i will continue to use it.

As to deposits i would never pay one under any circumstances.

You can not possibly have a foolproof way of ensuring every escort who asks for a deposit won't scam the punter, all you can do is put forward your own method of how you personally take deposits and that is something for you make clear on your profile.

BTW even if you increase the search results to 200 you still won't find every post / thread on the subject there's that many and in very one the opinion is do not pay a deposit.

[SynDee]

 

Then put your solution out there. You are starting to sound like one of those internet scam ads that tell you to look at how some celebrity from years ago looks now then takes you through some long drawn out set of slides, covered in adverts, before eventually showing you the celebrity looking exactly how you expected them to look.
Plus, I think like all of us you only have a right to be here as long as the mods say so.
So please put up or shut up.

 

[SynDee]

“Advert” blimey. I’ve never seen her and have no intention to, I’ve seen enough nutters in my time.

It was not an advert, it was well-intentioned answering someone’s query.

(Quite the opposite to an advert, The linked thread would surely put most people off!

Nutters fuck better tho   

[SynDee]

As a moderator of the site I don't need 'the boss' to contact you, I've pointed the rules out and if you continue in the manner you are now I will ban you.

Just to make it absolutely clear, I said in my previous post that if you are that concerned about your punters getting scammed then tell them to join here, put 'deposit' in the search function and start at this post and work forward 10 years. -
You can not possibly have a foolproof way of ensuring every escort who asks for a deposit won't scam the punter, all you can do is put forward your own method of how you personally take deposits and that is something for you make clear on your profile.

BTW even if you increase the search results to 200 you still won't find every post / thread on the subject there's that many and in very one the opinion is do not pay a deposit.

Thankyou will do x il keep my good idea to myself, seems it isnt wanted to be heard, il shut up x

[SynDee]

This subject has been done to death 

My take on it is only pay a deposit to well reviewed established SPs.
It wouldn’t be worth damaging our reputation by scamming someone out of £50.

sorry xx

[MissWolf]

Thankyou will do x il keep my good idea to myself, seems it isnt wanted to be heard, il shut up x

Actually that's not what's what's asked is it, you have been asked on several occasions to share your amazing and safe solution