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Stevensmiles

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Does anyone on here really know how the pricing structure works regarding SP’s

It’s a widely argued about topic all over the place.
How some girl charges £250 and hour and yet as far as a lot of folk are concerned. She’s no better looking or gives a better service than someone else who charges £100 less.

As gets said a lot too. Pricing is subjective.... very fuckin subjective.

It has to be said. Over the years I’ve forked out a few times over the £250 mark.
If I was being totally honest and if I could get my memory working better. I’d probably have to say the best value for money punts I’ve had, have been in the £120-£150 bracket.

Possibly one or two instances where a little gem has been had for £100.

Maybe it’s my age now. Or just the way I view things.
At this time in my life I’m almost certainly,  fluidly more wealthy than I’ve ever been.

God that sounds too crass.
I’m not a flippin millionaire for gods sake.
Well sort of. We all live in fucking houses worth more than a million in our street but you know what I mean.
That’s just locality.

But I do fancy quite a lot of girls as I browse the inter web 😂
Then cross them off a list just cos at £250 or £300 an hour. I don’t fancy paying it.




Offline DeanoDeano

Pricing is entirely dependent on what you are willing to pay, and what the seller is willing to receive.

It's called a free market.

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Pricing is entirely dependent on what you are willing to pay, and what the seller is willing to receive.

It's called a free market.

Exactly. Any girl can up her rate from £100 to £250 and most likely they'll just get a dusty phone, and vice versa.

I would say once a girl has been around for a while her rate will end up being roughly right for her looks/age/service.... The reason crap girls get to overcharge is because people see them but don't review them (not a dig at OP).

Offline Trenlover

the reason some girls charge £250+ is because there are clearly alot of fluffy twats out there who will pay it.


Offline stewpid

I have a personal limit of £160 an hour that I have not yet broken regardless of a girl's looks or service offering.

Both my current regs are £100 an hour and I have had better experiences with them than most of the girls I have been with for more than that.

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the reason some girls charge £250+ is because there are clearly alot of fluffy twats out there who will pay it.

Doubt it, and I don't see much evidence of it on here. I imagine for some people money is irrelevant so £60 is pretty much the same as £500. I also imagine if they get 2 bookings a month that's decent money for virtually no effort, the perfect part time job. If you actually only want 1-2 clients a month then increasing your price is easily the best way to control that.

Stevensmiles

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Doubt it, and I don't see much evidence of it on here. I imagine for some people money is irrelevant so £60 is pretty much the same as £500. I also imagine if they get 2 bookings a month that's decent money for virtually no effort, the perfect part time job. If you actually only want 1-2 clients a month then increasing your price is easily the best way to control that.

Yes I agree entirely.

Oh and if you were wondering. I coukd review a lot more, I’ve certainly punted a great deal.

The only problem is I haven’t been on here all that long really and most of the WG’s I’ve seen before that have moved on or are no more......if you know what I mean.
I absolutely loved Stacy Hot Summer in Wimbledon but as she ain’t around anymore. Not much point in posting.

A great £100 an hour mind you
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 12:05:48 am by Stevensmiles »

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15 reviews in 5 months is awesome actually.

It's more a case of when you see a profile that's been on AW for a year and there's not a single mention. If nobody on here has ever seen a girl you have to wonder who is. That or 1 person does post a review and 3-4 others post a followup.

Offline MilleMiglia

A lot of it is market forces. I've seen several porn stars at European agencies start off with very reasonable rates (for a long booking), then hike them considerably after a couple of months, where they remained. People were, presumably, willing to pay.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 07:42:19 am by MilleMiglia »

Offline MilleMiglia

Doubt it, and I don't see much evidence of it on here. I imagine for some people money is irrelevant so £60 is pretty much the same as £500. I also imagine if they get 2 bookings a month that's decent money for virtually no effort, the perfect part time job. If you actually only want 1-2 clients a month then increasing your price is easily the best way to control that.

The stories related by my ex reg were jaw dropping. A lot of guys in this game are rich beyond belief.

Stevensmiles

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A lot of it is market forces. I've seen several porn stars at European agencies start off with very reasonable rates (for a long booking), then hike them considerably after a couple of months, where they remained. People were, presumably, willing to pay.

That is the question and answer.
Market forces dictate...... usually.  :D

A site like UKP goes a long way in helping us to decide if someone is worth it or not. I’m talking in simple terms here. That may apply to most of us more sensible chaps.
But folk will still pay way over the odds because they think more expensive is better.

« Last Edit: December 27, 2018, 08:22:10 am by Stevensmiles »

Offline Metalgear2018

Some girls charge high rates to deter certain people. Some charge high rates because they place a high value on their body. It can also be dependent on the area they work in.

Yr Blaidd

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Just like any other business selling its products in a free market...

You could sell at a cheap price, and hope to get a lot of customers, just like the EE conveyor belt places.  As we all know having so many customers to deal with results in loss of focus and enthusiasm, giving a shit service.

You could sell at a very expensive price, and get a few very rich guys giving you thousands of pounds for a weeks work, and let your phone gather dust in between whiles.

Or you could pick a price somewhere it between to keep the number of customers to a sensible number allowing each to get a good service, repeat business, etc etc.  If the chosen price creates too many customers, especially of the wrong sort, then a slight increase reduce the number.  Of course the girls reputation will greatly influence the number of potential customers too!


What annoys me is that so many girls forget the value of repeat business, and building up a good customer base.  The supply of punters in an area is not infinite.  Give a guy a good experience and he will return, give a poor service (short time, don't kiss, dirty, etc) and he won't.  So, why can't SPs understand this!!


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Just like any other business selling its products in a free market...

You could sell at a cheap price, and hope to get a lot of customers, just like the EE conveyor belt places.  As we all know having so many customers to deal with results in loss of focus and enthusiasm, giving a shit service.

You could sell at a very expensive price, and get a few very rich guys giving you thousands of pounds for a weeks work, and let your phone gather dust in between whiles.

Or you could pick a price somewhere it between to keep the number of customers to a sensible number allowing each to get a good service, repeat business, etc etc.  If the chosen price creates too many customers, especially of the wrong sort, then a slight increase reduce the number.  Of course the girls reputation will greatly influence the number of potential customers too!


What annoys me is that so many girls forget the value of repeat business, and building up a good customer base.  The supply of punters in an area is not infinite.  Give a guy a good experience and he will return, give a poor service (short time, don't kiss, dirty, etc) and he won't.  So, why can't SPs understand this!!
The good SPs do understand this; the best ones not only understand it, they live and deliver by it.

Stevensmiles

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The good SPs do understand this; the best ones not only understand it, they live and deliver by it.


Absolutely spot on and I’ve been lucky enough to meet one or two.

A girl told me once that it was because of the return business she got. She could dictate her price accordingly and I have to say I think she got it just right. But so many just can’t undersrsnd the business model and fail miserably.

Offline Steely Dan

Almost two thirds of those that bid on a recent reverse booking were £200/hr+ escorts.  The rate I asked for was well below their posted rate.  I think some of these are 'professional' RB bidders.  They like to have a high posted rate, but will work for much less.

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The stories related by my ex reg were jaw dropping. A lot of guys in this game are rich beyond belief.

Every £1m house is owned by somebody, and no reason they didn't get that paid off in their 50s like many of others. No shortage of those houses in most towns. Some of those 500k houses are owned by guys who downsized from £1m houses. Apparently 800,000 households in the UK are millionaires.



What annoys me is that so many girls forget the value of repeat business, and building up a good customer base.  The supply of punters in an area is not infinite.  Give a guy a good experience and he will return, give a poor service (short time, don't kiss, dirty, etc) and he won't.  So, why can't SPs understand this!!

That's a funny one because it really isn't the industry for that. Guys like fresh meat so no matter how amazing a girl is 90% of punters will probably never see her more than once or twice. For the good WGs UKP is a godsend because it means one guys great experience will draw in other guys even if that guy never returns, so yes your point is still valid but a bit different to most trades I would say.

Offline advent2016

I generally pay up to £200 per hour. Last week over Xmas I paid £4000 for 5 days(and as many shags as i wanted) that works out to £60 an hour. It's all relative.

Offline Spiceoflife

That's a funny one because it really isn't the industry for that. Guys like fresh meat so no matter how amazing a girl is 90% of punters will probably never see her more than once or twice. For the good WGs UKP is a godsend because it means one guys great experience will draw in other guys even if that guy never returns, so yes your point is still valid but a bit different to most trades I would say.
Do you have stats to back up your 90% figure or is this just your opinion? A lot of SPs have regulars and I myself, plus many others I suspect, will have a few regulars interspersed with new girls.

Offline Spiceoflife

When searching AW, I will set a max rate per hour/half hour. I won't even be aware of those charging £200+ or any rate over my limit.

Offline S.X. MacHine

Guys, as a Scottish punter, I get the impression that all this glib talk of £1,000,000 houses and £200 per hour WGs is a bit Londoncentric.
There are houses at a million quid in Edinburgh, I grant you that, but they are a tiny percentage of the housing stock. The average for property is around £260k.
As for WGs, I have no trouble finding satisfactory ones here at £120 to £130 per hour. Oh, and I disapprove of paying for 'extras'. Yes, I have paid £150 in the past, my absolute maximum, but it was long, long ago. But then, as you are aware, Scots have a reputation for being...erm..'careful' with money!

Offline JayEZ2K

Pricing varies based on WGs trying finding the balance between how much they can charge, and how dusty their phone gets. But what I pay is very consistent. Reasonable prices are:

£60/30 minutes vanilla
£70/30 minutes with kissing or owo, warmer service
£80/30 minutes with kissing+owo, warmer service
£100/30 minutes  with kissing+owo, warmer service + Anal + CIM/Facial


If they are very attractive that can push the price up, or reduce services for the same price. That's fair, IMO.

If a WG tries to "get away" with charging more for less services they will ultimately Be penalized with a negative mark on their review, which will hence increase the dustiness of their phone andn bring the price back down/service up. 

Offline winkywanky

Does anyone on here really know how the pricing structure works regarding SP’s

It’s a widely argued about topic all over the place.
How some girl charges £250 and hour and yet as far as a lot of folk are concerned. She’s no better looking or gives a better service than someone else who charges £100 less.

As gets said a lot too. Pricing is subjective.... very fuckin subjective.


Perhaps there should be a national Regulator.

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Offline Moby Dick

Simple, it is their body, so they can charge what they like.

If they are busy, they can work less by charging more, and visa versa.

As a consumer we can choose who to see within our "budget".
No point scrutinizing why she charges more than such and such
Find someone you like, with the right services and price.

Offline rickyponting

I've never paid more than £60 for half hour or £120 for an hour.
I've paid that ever since I started punting about 20 years ago.
My regular always charges me £100 an hour,and I'm happy with that.
I'm not tight but I'm careful with money and I just don't see the value of paying a woman more than that,no matter how hot she is.
I've had great punts with some average looking girls and shit ones with supposed honeys.
At the end of the day the feeling when you shoot your load is roughly the same whoever you do it with.

Offline magnetico

If a WG tries to "get away" with charging more for less services they will ultimately Be penalized with a negative mark on their review, which will hence increase the dustiness of their phone andn bring the price back down/service up.

It doesn't seem to be the case, many many prossies are simply overpriced and get very few bookings (hardly any reviews on UKP/AW), but they take prostitution as a part-time job so it's not a big deal.

Offline Bonker

I've never paid more than £60 for half hour or £120 for an hour.
I've paid that ever since I started punting about 20 years ago.
My regular always charges me £100 an hour,and I'm happy with that.
I'm not tight but I'm careful with money and I just don't see the value of paying a woman more than that,no matter how hot she is.
I've had great punts with some average looking girls and shit ones with supposed honeys.
At the end of the day the feeling when you shoot your load is roughly the same whoever you do it with.

I feel exactly the same as you  :drinks:
But I still think you're an arrogant aussie batsman

Offline S.X. MacHine

I've never paid more than £60 for half hour or £120 for an hour.
I've paid that ever since I started punting about 20 years ago.
My regular always charges me £100 an hour,and I'm happy with that.
I'm not tight but I'm careful with money and I just don't see the value of paying a woman more than that,no matter how hot she is.
I've had great punts with some average looking girls and shit ones with supposed honeys.
At the end of the day the feeling when you shoot your load is roughly the same whoever you do it with.

Indeed. Some of my best punts have been with fairly average looking women. The most beautiful one, a Romanian, provided a very poor experience.

Offline Hobbit

I've never paid more than £60 for half hour or £120 for an hour.
I've paid that ever since I started punting about 20 years ago.
My regular always charges me £100 an hour,and I'm happy with that.
I'm not tight but I'm careful with money and I just don't see the value of paying a woman more than that,no matter how hot she is.
I've had great punts with some average looking girls and shit ones with supposed honeys.
At the end of the day the feeling when you shoot your load is roughly the same whoever you do it with.

You must live outside London because you can't get much here for £100. A good quality punt will cost you the average £150 and you could probably get cheaper and find a gem sometimes but they are few and far between nowadays.

Most of my bests punts have also been with not so attractive women as I think they know that and make more of an effort. There are some which are contrary to the rule.

Stevensmiles

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Guys, as a Scottish punter, I get the impression that all this glib talk of £1,000,000 houses and £200 per hour WGs is a bit Londoncentric.
There are houses at a million quid in Edinburgh, I grant you that, but they are a tiny percentage of the housing stock. The average for property is around £260k.
As for WGs, I have no trouble finding satisfactory ones here at £120 to £130 per hour. Oh, and I disapprove of paying for 'extras'. Yes, I have paid £150 in the past, my absolute maximum, but it was long, long ago. But then, as you are aware, Scots have a reputation for being...erm..'careful' with money!


Not so sure it’s glib talk. Just matter of fact really.
I agree completely with WG’s who charge extra for what they term as extra services.
It’s not for me. A £120 punt can quite quickly turn into near £160 or £180 if it’s stiff you want.

I like to know the flat fee and won’t see anyone if they want more.
Worked for me so far.

Offline bushman

When I was a young loon I would have given everything I had to fuck my headmaster's daugter. She was a right tease.
Fast forward 40-45 years and the price I would pay for fanny has come down. I have way more material wealth now than then, so wealth has got nothing to do with it. Wisdom and the understanding that the euphoria achieved during orgasm isn't priceless.
I would be a happier punter if all my punts where £100-£120 but as been said above sometime the little man is in charge and self imposed budget rules get bent.

TailSeeker

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Pricing varies depending on area and demand. Plus experience, services, and reputation.

Being in London, I am on the more pricey end, but I'm pretty much all inclusive. Others may offer similar and be cheaper, others may offer less and be more expensive. All depends on supply and demand, and how much the majority find you attractive.

It will also depend on how many someone wants to see in a day/week, the more the lower the price can be.

I've certainly had fluffies blow smoke up my arse and tell me I can charge £500+ an hour, but you really need the rep and client base to follow it, which few have.

You also don't know if an SP is honouring past prices with previous punters and only the new ones getting the higher prices, or sticking all with the new price. As it is quite rightly not frequently discussed.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2018, 11:13:52 pm by TailSeeker »

Offline workinallweek


 I am probably punting above my weight in as much as i cannot afford to spend the correct  price of the girl i am seeing (long may it continue )  .
Banned reason: Offering glowing positive reviews for free bookings.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline bushman

I am probably punting above my weight in as much as i cannot afford to spend the correct  price of the girl i am seeing (long may it continue )  .
How did that came about? RB?

Saad Hussar

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Some girls charge high rates to deter certain people.
Perhaps in the past, but these days with AW ratings, girls can be selective on who visits based on the customer's AW feedback.

If they are busy, they can work less by charging more, and visa versa.
Not really, if they want to work less, then they don't need to accept bookings or can turn their phones off.

Give a guy a good experience and he will return, give a poor service (short time, don't kiss, dirty, etc) and he won't.
Fundamentally, this is what is all about (pricing is irrelevant and only dependent on what you're willing to pay).

Correct me if I'm wrong, Ten to twenty years ago the highest rate for an expensive girl would be around the £150 (those with their own websites and before the days of AW). There may be the odd girl charging more than this.

More recently, whilst most charge between £100-£150, I'm finding it a lot more common to see girls charging £200, £250, £300 or more. Also a lot more girls charging for extras.

Quite simply, the best girls are those that are looking for sex and wanting to earn an income as a bonus. The worst are purely looking for the money.




Offline magnetico

The worst are purely looking for the money.
I guess that's me as well when working, and more or less everyone I know :lol:

Offline bushman


Quite simply, the best girls are those that are looking for sex and wanting to earn an income as a bonus. The worst are purely looking for the money.
Bollocks. You must have had a too much mulled wine this xmas to come out with this drivel.
If it were sex they where after it would be free. It's all about money. Simples. They charge more more cause people are stupid enough to pay more.

Offline JamesKW

WGs will charge what the punter will pay,there are some punters that will pay £300 per hour,maybe they feel they are getting exclusivity.Maybe they are, as these girls can see a lot less punters than those that charge £100 per hour and still make the same money.If some punters are prepared to pay these prices then we cannot dictate what they charge even if we aren't prepared to pay this.Some punters maybe able to hide the costs in expense accounts so they are not paying but the company is.Companies have been known to pay for WGs for staff parties (one massage lady told me she did a lot of these when she was younger in the City).

Personally I tend to punt at the bottom rung of the market just above street level and am happy with the service I get there,I could afford more but have better things to spend my money on.

Offline JamesKW

Some punters must spend a small fortune on WGs,I see a lot of guys who have hired WGs for the night at events like Torture Garden in a sub or dom capacity,so not only are they paying their going rate they are also cost of the event,drinks for the night etc. also sometimes these girls will be expected to swap with other couples (so this must increase rates charged),this is the same at swingers parties.If you see a good looking girl at any of these events she is likely a WG.

Offline workinallweek

How did that came about? RB?


sort of yes  also someone who enjoys the time (apparently it does happen ) and is not a frequent SP
Banned reason: Offering glowing positive reviews for free bookings.
Banned by: daviemac

Offline JamesKW

It's more a case of when you see a profile that's been on AW for a year and there's not a single mention. If nobody on here has ever seen a girl you have to wonder who is. That or 1 person does post a review and 3-4 others post a followup.


UKP is just a tip on the iceberg compared to the number of punters out there,very few I have encountered at parties have heard of it.

Offline simon07

Not seen sport men affecting prices in discussions.
Anyone know of any footballers offering silly money for punts? That would affect expectations. Maybe it does not happen?

Offline JamesKW

Not seen sport men affecting prices in discussions.
Anyone know of any footballers offering silly money for punts? That would affect expectations. Maybe it does not happen?


Wayne Rooney springs to mind but I doubt he spent much on his WGs,though the older girl may charge more as its a fairly niche market.The extra expense likely occurs when the media gets hold of it and they have to placate tho O/H or impending divorce.
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