Lack of punting apprenticeship

[yorkshire123]

I read a lot of threads/comments from new/budding punters about how to go about punting. I know some are bollocks but their must be some genuine ones.

My punting career hasn't been as long as some but prior to reading & subsequently joining UKP I did serve what I would describe as a punting apprenticeship (albeit only about 12 months) in & around the NW & occasionally the midlands.
This consisted of some of the seedier brothels & indies & resulted in some quite hair raising experiences including getting ripped off, altercations with pimps & some quite nasty looking prossies, however the street scene did pass me by.

After joining UKP my punting success's have increased massively due to learning from the advice/experiences of others but I do believe that my apprenticeship gave me some vital punting tools for example the ability to walk if all isn't or doesn't feel right.

My question is, are the guys who get into punting without some sort of on the job learning missing out or are they the lucky ones by finding such a knowledge base before spending a penny?

The reason I ask is that during my self imposed punting sabbatical I have given some thought to my escapades & to be honest I've started to look on my short (I know I'm not in the league of some of you guys that picked prossies from phone boxes & newspapers) punting apprenticeship with great fondness however scary it was at the time.

[smiths]

I read a lot of threads/comments from new/budding punters about how to go about punting. I know some are bollocks but their must be some genuine ones.

My punting career hasn't been as long as some but prior to reading & subsequently joining UKP I did serve what I would describe as a punting apprenticeship (albeit only about 12 months) in & around the NW & occasionally the midlands.
This consisted of some of the seedier brothels & indies & resulted in some quite hair raising experiences including getting ripped off, altercations with pimps & some quite nasty looking prossies, however the street scene did pass me by.

After joining UKP my punting success's have increased massively due to learning from the advice/experiences of others but I do believe that my apprenticeship gave me some vital punting tools for example the ability to walk if all isn't or doesn't feel right.

My question is, are the guys who get into punting without some sort of on the job learning missing out or are they the lucky ones by finding such a knowledge base before spending a penny?

The reason I ask is that during my self imposed punting sabbatical I have given some thought to my escapades & to be honest I've started to look on my short (I know I'm not in the league of some of you guys that picked prossies from phone boxes & newspapers) punting apprenticeship with great fondness however scary it was at the time.

IMO such punters are really lucky and can use UKP to help them, I just wish I had had such a site in my early punting days.

[hendrix]

Good post. I started punting back in the day of cards in booths and local paper ads. Some great experiences, some total nightmares.

I kind of liken it to learning a piece of music. Anybody can just check YouTube lessons and have it all shown to them. I had to do it be ear, literally "lift the needle off the record" a million times before I could play the tune.

That developed my "ear" which a lot of "learned on YouTube" musicians lack - and my early punting apprenticeship developed my "nose" for scams

[shagbambi]

Good post.  I started in the late nineties, online sex advertising was starting so I have always had a good nose for punting in a digital world.

UKP however makes things a lot easier and ultimately smoother.

[Quesadilla]

Only had a brief "apprenticeship" - punting from newspapers and visits to the RLD in Amsterdam etc back in the 90s. 

Then when I started punting again last year I had a few punts relying purely on AW including a b&s before finding this site.  I guess it was all good experience but mainly it has given me an appreciation for how easy things are now by comparison.

The downside is it probably makes it easier than ever to get into punting and get hooked on hookers.

[AnthG]

My question is, are the guys who get into punting without some sort of on the job learning missing out or are they the lucky ones by finding such a knowledge base before spending a penny?

In my opinion, I think anyone who is considering taking up punting, and who do not google the adultwork link of the couple of girls taking their fancy for their first punt (and thus finding this site as a result), are complete fools.

I did this before my first punt, and I am glad I did, as it was a punt setup for 7pm in Benwell with one girl. Who got a massive warning on this site when I googled her so breathed a massive sigh of relief at the time. (For those that don't know, Benwell is literally the roughest, dodgiest area of Newcastle and I was on reflection off my rocker even considering it at the time).

Here is that topic for those curious.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=2567

[NottsNylonLuvr]

I'm fairly new to punting with only a handful of punts under my belt.
Started browsing UKP about a week before my first punt but did some solid reading here.
I'd like to think UKPBgave me a fairly decent heads up, especially with reviews & I've only had one punt so far with no reviews here, more as a challenge than anything.

As valuable as the information here is there's still a lot to learn in experience alone, especially when to walk or spotting 'out of the ordinary' (which luckily I've so far avoided/have no experience of (yet)).

I liken it to viewing a youtube video.

The way the chef chopped that carrot looked easy but you still lost the tip of your middle finger.

Pointing up that chimney seemed a doddle but you still broke your collarbone.

Replacing that piston rod looked like childs play but now you're looking at £1000+ garage bill.

[RedKettle]

I think the security related advice is a must and a clear advantage for a newbie - I shudder when I think of some of the things I did when I started.

However I know what you mean about the general experience - it is the odd munter and the scams that stick in your memory.  I still smile at the memory of desperately trying to clear my mind of the horrible tub of lard that had turned up so that I could cum and she would leave!! (Now I would walk - or rather slammed the hotel door in her face!!)

[Tiger63]

Easy to critisise, but what if guys havnt heard of this site or dont have access to the internet in private.
I found this place purely by accident so I`ve been lucky.
Back in the 80s you went to the corner shop in a dodgy area of town and looked in the window for ladies advertising "French Oral ".
This place is a massive help to new guys like myself but still didnt stop me making a booking with a bloody Romanian that went tits up

[SirFrank]

Great thread Yorkshire. As my late, great grandfather used to say 'if you want to learn to swim, you've got to get wet'. My apprenticeship coincided with Britpop and my punts had very much in common with the music - some were good, but a lot were shit. I'd say I probably learned more from the crap ones than the good in that you develop a nose for bullshit.

That said, my greatest punting discovery was UKP and some of my best meets have been as a result of reviews here. I've had a few mediocre punts since joining the firmament of punters but I believe I've yet to have a truly shit punt. By The law of averages I'm due one, but as I punt so infrequently these days, I usually do more homework than a teenage Dr Who fan and so far it has mitigated against pisspoor experiences

[Tiger63]

Great thread Yorkshire. As my late, great grandfather used to say 'if you want to learn to swim, you've got to get wet'. My apprenticeship coincided with Britpop and my punts had very much in common with the music - some were good, but a lot were shit. I'd say I probably learned more from the crap ones than the good in that you develop a nose for bullshit.

That said, my greatest punting discovery was UKP and some of my best meets have been as a result of reviews here. I've had a few mediocre punts since joining the firmament of punters but I believe I've yet to have a truly shit punt. By The law of averages I'm due one, but as I punt so infrequently these days, I usually do more homework than a teenage Dr Who fan and so far it has mitigated against pisspoor experiences

Do you find that you are sticking to the same girls who you can rely on.....thats pretty much what iam doing

[SirFrank]

Do you find that you are sticking to the same girls who you can rely on.....thats pretty much what iam doing

No, I rarely meet the same girl twice. I like the variety and when I have gone back it's never been quite the same for me - like the excitement wasn't quite there second time round

[Sureshot]

I cut my teeth on the coventry street scene, loved every second of it at the time (except the occasional rip off). Looking back i cant believe how naive i was to the danger i was putting myself in.

After a long break i got back in it through AW escorts.  Its a completely different game and tbh there's much less adrenaline rush seeing escorts than street whores.  The benefits outweigh this though and now i'm older and more mature (slightly!) i wouldnt want to go back to crawling.

[Aspen]

IMO such punters are really lucky and can use UKP to help them, I just wish I had had such a site in my early punting days.

Yeah, it was a real jungle even only twenty years ago.

It took me several years from thinking about it to actually doing it. These days the introduction to it can be a lot easier.

[Aspen]

now i'm older and more mature (slightly!) i wouldnt want to go back to crawling.

I think the difference is that when the prozzie is there in front of you, your cock gives you a bit of Dutch courage in making up your mind to go for it (sometimes with bad results, admittedly) and then it won't let you back out anyway - lol. Booking anonymously through AW can be clinical (is!) and when the time comes to meet it's easy to prefer to wimp out. I have not done that without letting the girl know, but I also think that's where most of what they call the time wasters come from. I wonder how many attempts I would have made booking a girl on AW before I went through with it.

[Sonny Crockett]

My punting beginnings (which occurred in 2009) also consisted of visits to massage parlours!!!!!!!! They consisted of 30min meets. The experiences varied from good to bad!!!!!

Then I discovered Adultwork, and started seeing indies!!!!! I have to say that at first my experiences varied from brilliant to awful...... Then there was a long period where I had an awful run of punts!!!!!!!

As a result in mid 2013, I stopped punting!!!!!!!!

Then in April 2014 I returned to punting as I had that itch to punt...... Only this time I became far more selective about who I meet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Overall.......... From April 2014 to now.......... I must say that I have had far better punting experiences in this spell, than the ones I had from 2009 to 2013!!!!!!!!!!

This is partly thanks to me been more selective about who I see, and also partly thanks to UKP....... Where I had 3 great punts with ladies reported on here or recommended to me here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingAlpha]

Great thread Yorkshire. As my late, great grandfather used to say 'if you want to learn to swim, you've got to get wet'. My apprenticeship coincided with Britpop and my punts had very much in common with the music - some were good, but a lot were shit.

So, a bit of Blur and a lot of Menswear. When what you really wanted was Elastica and Sleeper.

[sticko]

Good post.  I started in the late nineties, online sex advertising was starting so I have always had a good nose for punting in a digital world.

UKP however makes things a lot easier and ultimately smoother.

+1

[riskytimes]

apprenticeship !! I would not bother with adultwork as from my experience it should be called adultnonwork !!

spent 3 days trying to get an actual booking and when I did she text to say she has cancelled it !! 95% of adultnonwork is foreign pimped dirty whores !! the rest who are mainly English cant be arsed to respond or pick up the phone . as in previous thread they must all be minted ( inc benefits ) and don't need the punters.

The age old profession is going down hill big time and I think that in a few years it will be called eurowork !!!

ive said 300 quid this week by simply having a bit of discipline to leave them alone and get on with life. better to buy the missus a new short dress and fuck her brains out that is one booking totally guaranteed !!!!!!

[john_n]

I'm one of those who found this site after a google search and I'm really glad that I did. I did my first ever punt last year and thanks to the members here I have had only great punts. My only neutral review was a TOFTT and the negative review was a booking that never happend. After reading about other punters bad experiences I hope it will make me better prepared to spot a situation where I should walk.

I have also met some really nice people through this site and it's great to have someone to discuss punting with.

[cueball]

Good post yorkshire

Whilst ukp is a great source for advice and recommendations, serving my punting apprenticeship twenty years ago has made me the wary podger I am today.

A few close scrapes and dubious encounters teaches you that everything that glitters is not gold

[threechilliman]

I'm not sure I served a punting apprenticeship, joining the 'fast-track' management trainee programme for graduates last year. This consists of:-

Being completely wet behind the ears
Believing escorts were girls you took out for dinner
Finding the website for Helen Jones and realising that there was more than dinner on offer
Discovering AW and believing this was the bible for all things punting
Believing that every profile on there is genuine
Believing that I should only consider girls with lots of AW feedback
Finding UKP before taking your first punt and not realising the relevance of the site
Wading in to your first punt without the first idea what you're doing.

In reality my first punt was actually around Y2K (remember that) when I saw some old slapper in Edinburgh that I found in the back of the Daily Sport. Fuckin' hideous and kept me away from it for the next 14 years. I got lucky with my first 'modern era' encounter last year and she remains a favourite to this day. Initially I followed good advice, seeing UKP reviewed girls and had some good initial punts. Over the course of last summer and autumn I lost my way, selecting girls fairly randomly and this resulted in 4 shit punts out of about 20. The last 2 were back-to-back, wasting £200 and made me take stock of my selection methods.

Now I'm more cautious, mixing trusted regs with recommendations from trusted guys in the NW, but occasionally chancing my arm on a girl with no form. For some reason there is a thrill to this as you really don't know what you'll get - the 'Tombola Punt'. These tend to be half hour or 45mins with a maximum cost of £70. I cheat a little by using their AW feedback for guidance, looking for known punters on there, or a few returnees, or both - usually a good sign. Had a decent 45min/£50 punt last week via RB.

Still a lot of learning to do though compared to some of the veterans on here. I do know which hole to stick it in though.

tcm

[SirFrank]

Ahhhh I remember when all this were fucking trees

[SirNigel]

In days before AW and this forum, it was all about the ads in the daily sport.....in those days, I was salesman on the road and could easily do a punt....I remember keeping a copy of a few daily sports under the drivers seat (rarely did the ex wife ever suspect anything) and would look at the map to see what towns I'd be near, then look in the sport for a corresponding match....met some rotters, yet had some great women who I'd never meet on civy street....the newbies will never know what it was like pre internet!!!

[Thepacifist]

My apprenticeship was gained in the Kamers of Amsterdam's RLD at 18 and then LMP. I got lucky with my first AW regular but the previous experiences helped. UKP helped me see punting for what it really is and how to be politely assertive. It's removed the fluffiness. 

[badsin]

I drifted into punting after using massage parlours. The parlours were (still are) strictly "rub & tug" establishments.
I found that this didn't quite scratch the itch I had, and checked out the classifieds on the local rag. This lead to me walking away from loads of dodgey mingers....  but I also found quite a few good un's. Some of which id love to meet up with again, but the students round here don't seem quite so open to whoring nowadays
Bout 2006/07 I discovered AW, then sandys - which at that time just blew me away that such places existed
Whatever I've learnt through the apprenticeship lead to a summit year in 2010..... which I cannot believe I'll ever match let alone better
I think the 'whoring age' is upon us now, whereby the techno savvie whore has such media to attract clients the service element is pretty much forgotten about.
Anyway........ I'm off to view the 2010 films I made to re-live the high points!!

[Ramsbottom-the-snake]

In days before AW and this forum, it was all about the ads in the daily sport.....in those days, I was salesman on the road and could easily do a punt....I remember keeping a copy of a few daily sports under the drivers seat (rarely did the ex wife ever suspect anything) and would look at the map to see what towns I'd be near, then look in the sport for a corresponding match....met some rotters, yet had some great women who I'd never meet on civy street....the newbies will never know what it was like pre internet!!!

WOW this brings back some memories. Buying the Sport every day to get a look at the female personal ads. Christ I never had a clue who I was meeting just had to trust your own gut instinct. In 2004 this was one of only a few ways of arranging a punt. But at least you got to talk to the girls and most of them were ENGLISH and at least you were able to communicate with them. 

[Malvolio]

So, a bit of Blur and a lot of Menswear. When what you really wanted was Elastica and Sleeper.

Or perhaps Sonya Madan from Echobelly...

[The_Don]

In most cases people don't see what right in front of them. Until they get involved.

Looks like some members have some fascinating inceptions along with a few stories about punting over time

A work collogue, use to be a driver for out-call (agency) W/G and some stores he shared were hilarious and or unsettlingly.

[Tiger63]

In most cases people don't see what right in front of them. Until they get involved.

Looks like some members have some fascinating inceptions along with a few stories about punting over time

A work collogue, use to be a driver for out-call (agency) W/G and some stores he shared were hilarious and or unsettlingly.

I was a taxi driver in the 80s and used to pick up 2 girls who worked from a flat in Gateshead.They were a right couple of chav types but really friendly when they got to trust you.
Quite a few times I was treated to a BJ  ,in a discreet car park, for taxi rides home when they had no money.
Used to make quite a bit from tips from punters wanting to be taken back to newcastle after a session in their flat.