Does Sergi get freebies?

[LLPunting]

Because I’ve only just seen it. The girl he saw at a bargain price so she had some money to give to her pimp has long gone now. The hypocrisy of it.

Do you know of this Telford crew? Certain about their practices?
The only assumption you can make from that review is that they're a cheap, disorganised operation. Poster does not describe any signs of coercion.
Pray tell us more or apologise to poster.

[daviemac]

Because you read into what you wanted to and tried to put me to task for what ever reason. Your entitled to your views and can see where they come from. You probably a little upset that I mentioned agencies take money of girls , like you said you use them and you taken it personally. If that is the case I apologise for offending you. The truth is we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes it’s the obvious coerced cases we need/I will co to us to report for the benefit of the girl, not turn a blind eye to proctect myself. 


 Thank you for you advice.  It’s a cracker. 

Listen you sanctimonious prick, I read exactly what you wrote and that was what I quoted, you have tried to backtrack and sidetrack ever since you were pulled up about it.

Presupposing my line of thought is a very big mistake, you have no idea about me, you have no idea of what I think of agencies, or anything for that matter.

This is yet another of your, failed, attempts to divert attention away from you, it isn't working your post is there for all to see. The OP has been on today but has chosen not to comment, a very wise decision that some others would do well to emulate.

[LLPunting]

Before even considering seeing a new SP I have to be 100% sure they are independent.
Couldn't live with myself if I saw trafficked girls.....

Is your interpretation of 100% what scored an A in this year's A levels after the adjustment?

[Hotdogboy88]

Listen you sanctimonious prick, I read exactly what you wrote and that was what I quoted, you have tried to backtrack and sidetrack ever since you were pulled up about it.

Presupposing my line of thought is a very big mistake, you have no idea about me, you have no idea of what I think of agencies, or anything for that matter.

This is yet another of your, failed, attempts to divert attention away from you, it isn't working your post is there for all to see. The OP has been on today but has chosen not to comment, a very wise decision that some others would do well to emulate.

Well time for me to leave it. Your getting hot in the collar I’m happy to receive criticism. But can’t really be bothered when it drops down to name calling. As self control has been lost. Maybe take some of your own advice about thinking about what you post. I shall in the future.

You made so valuable points. But then let yourself down. 

Shall not comment anymore on this delicate subject.

[daviemac]

Well time for me to leave it. Your getting hot in the collar I’m happy to receive criticism. But can’t really be bothered when it drops down to name calling. As self control has been lost. Maybe take some of your own advice about thinking about what you post. I shall in the future.

You made so valuable points. But then let yourself down. 

Shall not comment anymore on this delicate subject.

There you go again presupposing what I'm feeling, can't help yourself can you?? One thing is certain. I have not lost control, any reply I make is very carefully thought out. It is however unfortunate that at times a few home truths have to be said. If I call you a sanctimonious prick it is because that is how you come across, there's no way to dress it up.   

Have the courage of your convictions and stand by your first post on this thread. Why don't you forget the backtracking and attempts at diverting attention away from you and put some decent arguments forward instead of trying to tell me what I'm thinking.
I stand by everything I've said on here, including any 'name calling' as you put it. Though I have to say I stopped 'name calling' before I left school and that was more years ago than I care to remember.

Anything I may have 'called' you is a statement of my current opinion of you based on your posting style, the content of your posts and the fact you are very selective on the points you raise.

[Beamer]

There you go again presupposing what I'm feeling, can't help yourself can you?? One thing is certain. I have not lost control, any reply I make is very carefully thought out. It is however unfortunate that at times a few home truths have to be said. If I call you a sanctimonious prick it is because that is how you come across, there's no way to dress it up.   

Have the courage of your convictions and stand by your first post on this thread. Why don't you forget the backtracking and attempts at diverting attention away from you and put some decent arguments forward instead of trying to tell me what I'm thinking.
I stand by everything I've said on here, including any 'name calling' as you put it. Though I have to say I stopped 'name calling' before I left school and that was more years ago than I care to remember.

Anything I may have 'called' you is a statement of my current opinion of you based on your posting style, the content of your posts and the fact you are very selective on the points you raise.

Think it's another example of a "you can take a horse to water but can't force him to drink"

[silva123]

So, in your pimp scumbag fantasy, not only would you illegally control the activities of another person for gain, you’d also use your position to effectively force them to have sex with you.

Good to know

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

[Ali Katt]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

Huge accusation to make.

[daviemac]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

You seem to have quite a problem with other members of the forum. I've just had a look at your post history, it isn't good reading.

[scutty brown]

Just curious to know if anyone has ever spoken to a WG before who is run by a Sergi if they have to shag him regularly for free?             For me to be in a house with a girl walking round in next to nothing I'd be wanting some action all the time.

Yes Sergei gets to shag the girls and its justified by them in several ways.
1) training - instructing them what to do, how to deal with clients
2) intimidation - in some cases repeated assaults and rapes until unwilling girls agree to service punters
3) punishment - its not unusual for girls who attempt to leave, or who don't give good service to get gang raped by Sergei and his mates
4) brainwashing - in cases where the pimp pretends to be the girls love partner, sex is used to deceive the girl into trusting him.
5) quality control
6) proof of ownership - often its a master/slave relationship, sex on demand reinforces the girls view of herself as slave

[Ali Katt]

Yes Sergei gets to shag the girls and its justified by them in several ways.
1) training - instructing them what to do, how to deal with clients
2) intimidation - in some cases repeated assaults and rapes until unwilling girls agree to service punters
3) punishment - its not unusual for girls who attempt to leave, or who don't give good service to get gang raped by Sergei and his mates
4) brainwashing - in cases where the pimp pretends to be the girls love partner, sex is used to deceive the girl into trusting him.
5) quality control
6) proof of ownership - often its a master/slave relationship, sex on demand reinforces the girls view of herself as slave

You forgot stealing passports.

[scutty brown]

Isn’t sergi just ukp slang for a pimp in general or is it solely Romanian pimps? I believe the OP meant pimps in general. Which is why I refuse to see girls who work for agency’s. Dress it up as you want but they are pimps at the end of the day. I refuse to hand my money over to girls who are not independent. 

How the fuck do you know if they are really independent? You don't, you can't, especially if they are foreigners. Someone, somewhere is organising the accommodation and travel, and in the majority of cases of imported girls that "somebody" is a Sergei (or group of Sergeis) acting as the front men for organised criminal gangs.
As for your comment about agencies, you're misguided there: you can't generalise but there's a better chance that an agency girl is there voluntarily - though I accept that some ARE forced/rented to the agency by their pimps

[scutty brown]

Most of the girls are the pimps girlfriends and in most cases their wife's ( I noticed these with Romanians )

Exploring more before the girls get in the trade they date this guys, another bad taste to the mouth some get raped to get them in line.

BUTT as stated its nothing to fantasize about...   

The bit I've highlighted is absolute bollocks..........its true in some cases but by no means "most"
A hell of a lot of them are quite simply forced

[scutty brown]

Again I take it you didn’t read my posts. Any suspicion I have or a miss treated I’m out of there and reporting it to the police. Ironically I’m currently a witness that will be called to a case. I have done so on many occasions In The past. I will not tolerate it one bit.

The truth is none of us know 100% whether the girl is forced or not we make judgement calls. But I know of girls that struggle to leave on good terms from as you put agencies run by former escorts. Just because they may not physically abuse them, there are other ways to control them. I’m sure you a responsible punter like most on her.

I didn’t realise at the time responding to such a shit thread would cause so much upset. Wish I didn’t bother now.

Please revisit the part I have highlighted.
Are you saying you have been called as a witness in trafficking / pimping cases on "many occasions in the past"?
I find that very very difficult to believe

[scutty brown]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

Accusing a member of being prepared to have sex with an enslaved girl is one heck of a claim to make. I hope you have evidence to back that post

[kirpNew]

Yes he does, he samples the product.

[Beamer]

Please revisit the part I have highlighted.
Are you saying you have been called as a witness in trafficking / pimping cases on "many occasions in the past"?
I find that very very difficult to believe

The is surely simply just a fantasist fantasizing.
I would be staggered if appearing as a witness in many such cases would be openly spouted about on here.

[Happyjose]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

Wow

Please enlighten the forum. Nothing to hide here

FYI - I think you’re going to have to justify this comment, here or to a mod in private ( either is fine with me)

But the clock is ticking

[Beamer]

Wow

Please enlighten the forum. Nothing to hide here

FYI - I think you’re going to have to justify this comment, here or to a mod in private ( either is fine with me)

But the clock is ticking

Look at the massive contribution to the forum he has made ....NOT......
Doubt that you will  hear from him......especially considering some his comments on his impressive 8 posts since he joined nearly two years ago

[Happyjose]

Look at the massive contribution to the forum he has made ....NOT......
Doubt that you will  hear from him......especially considering some his comments on his impressive 8 posts since he joined nearly two years ago

He’s definitely been an asshat so far, but he’s pushing his luck with this accusation

The thought of anyone punting an obviously forced or trafficked girl disgusts me and I would be the first to call them out

I have total faith in the mod team sorting this out

[daviemac]

He’s definitely been an asshat so far, but he’s pushing his luck with this accusation

The thought of anyone punting an obviously forced or trafficked girl disgusts me and I would be the first to call them out

I have total faith in the mod team sorting this out

I've been far more active, and scathing, on this thread, funny how he made no reference to me though.  He has some explaining to do regardless.

[scutty brown]

The is surely simply just a fantasist fantasizing.
I would be staggered if appearing as a witness in many such cases would be openly spouted about on here.

I totally agree
Extremely dangerous claim to make, if he ever got outed he becomes an instant target for the crim gangs

[Global_Punter]

Most of the girls are the pimps girlfriends and in most cases their wife's ( I noticed these with Romanians )

Exploring more before the girls get in the trade they date this guys, another bad taste to the mouth some get raped to get them in line.

BUTT as stated its nothing to fantasize about...   

The bit I've highlighted is absolute bollocks..........its true in some cases but by no means "most"
A hell of a lot of them are quite simply forced

I concur some, but don't forget most of this girls are the bread winners for their families - they bring home the bacon.

Some are single parents that come from countries where the living wage is really low and the trade offers them an opportunity to make a bit of money.

Let me also highlight that some parents, without mentioning nationality, know & encourage their daughters to get into the trade, the girls work & send their families money.

Without going into much details some of the girls operate from posh post codes / areas that they cant afford - they need a boss that will cover the overheads - bills, rent etc they just sell pussy & he gets his cut.

In a nut shell it's not all doom as you folks make it, the ladies need the $$$ and see this as a means to get it faster or a chance to earn more than their countries living wage.




     

[winkywanky]

Let me also highlight that some parents, without mentioning nationality, know & encourage their daughters to get into the trade, the girls work & send their families money.

I would say don't be afraid to mention that nationality, to me that suggests a level of irresistible coercion from their family which I find totally unacceptable. And I would take that into account when considering a WG for a booking.

[scutty brown]

I concur some, but don't forget most of this girls are the bread winners for their families - they bring home the bacon.

Some are single parents that come from countries where the living wage is really low and the trade offers them an opportunity to make a bit of money.

Let me also highlight that some parents, without mentioning nationality, know & encourage their daughters to get into the trade, the girls work & send their families money.

Without going into much details some of the girls operate from posh post codes / areas that they cant afford - they need a boss that will cover the overheads - bills, rent etc they just sell pussy & he gets his cut.

In a nut shell it's not all doom as you folks make it, the ladies need the $$$ and see this as a means to get it faster or a chance to earn more than their countries living wage.




   

Its a nice warm feeling isn't it? By shagging these EE girls you're helping support their impoverished families. In reality thats mainly bollocks - the money goes to parasite partners, lazy thieving gypsy bastard fathers, or trafficking pimps to whom the girls have been traded or leased by their families.
I came across one example in Bolton a few years back, a Romanian who was being forcibly pimped by her father and brother.

[LLPunting]

Its a nice warm feeling isn't it? By shagging these EE girls you're helping support their impoverished families. In reality thats mainly bollocks - the money goes to parasite partners, lazy thieving gypsy bastard fathers, or trafficking pimps to whom the girls have been traded or leased by their families.
I came across one example in Bolton a few years back, a Romanian who was being forcibly pimped by her father and brother.

Met more than a few who have openly chatted about buying property and setting up businesses, schooling their kids and taking fancy holidays (for which they posted pics via whatsapp).  No reason for them to lie about it as no-one else in the room but us (or were there...  Me and Daniela Bianchi kissing in a suite... Boris taking piccies through a two-way... I reach for my PPK... she says "Oh James, but it's so small...")

[Kev40ish]

Met more than a few who have openly chatted about buying property and setting up businesses, schooling their kids and taking fancy holidays (for which they posted pics via whatsapp).  No reason for them to lie about it as no-one else in the room but us (or were there...  Me and Daniela Bianchi kissing in a suite... Boris taking piccies through a two-way... I reach for my PPK... she says "Oh James, but it's so small...")

I do tend to agree with you, yes there are girls who are trafficked, but by the same token there are just as many who happily do it. Well happily may be an overstatement they do it to achieve a goal.

It sometimes difficult to judge which is which..

The three girls I have helped in the past getting away from an abusive pimp have been two English girls and one Chinese girl..

[Global_Punter]

Its a nice warm feeling isn't it? By shagging these EE girls you're helping support their impoverished families. In reality thats mainly bollocks - the money goes to parasite partners, lazy thieving gypsy bastard fathers, or trafficking pimps to whom the girls have been traded or leased by their families.
I came across one example in Bolton a few years back, a Romanian who was being forcibly pimped by her father and brother.

The end of communism across eastern Europe hasn't lead to reduction in hardship for a lot of families ie Romania after the fall of Nicolae Ceausescu's 21 year rule in 1989, that didn't do much to better the lives of the average Romanian that have to feed their families.

The same shadowy communist bought all the privatised previously owned public entities - which meant that in a nut shell the rich became richer and the poor poorer.

My point is for some the living wage is crap in their country, there's no decent jobs - these offers them a much better income to buy a house or set-up a business, but its like a drug some don't know how to save, invest or get out which is a shame.

 

[Spidz]

Does a bear shit in the woods? 
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Please feel free to continue the list....

Does Jackie Kennedy own a Black dress?

[Happyjose]

I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will.

You’ve logged on at least twice since making this allegation

Time for you to back up your spurious claim

[Private Parts]

Does Jackie Kennedy own a Black dress?

Shurley shome mishtake. Musht be “Did”?
PP

[daviemac]

You’ve logged on at least twice since making this allegation

Time for you to back up your spurious claim

He needs to explain himself and quickly.

[Dragon90210]

Does the pope shit in the woods?

Is a bear a catholic?

[winkywanky]

Does the pope shit in the woods?

Indeed, or does a bear go to Mass?

[Bonker]

Does the pope get wood?

[WARSZAWA16]

Does a bear shit in the woods? 
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Please feel free to continue the list....

Does Judith Chalmers have a passport? That's probably one for the oldies amongst us.

[scutty brown]

Is a bear a catholic?

You've been reading the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers..........

[smiths]

Yes of course Sergei gets freebies, I imagine its a reason they are a leeching pimp. Also their Brit counterpart Kevin gets the same, 1 the male divine pimp was exposed by one of his WGs during Olga-Gate on here, his pimp wife went nuts on their Twitter about it after Olga posted about him fucking her then trying to get rid of her. And I have been told over the years that Max Angel of Maxs Angels a London agency pimp fucks his WGs.

Its also why thinking you are a WGs first punter of the day means fuck all in reality as 15 minutes before her first booking she could of been fucking her pimp BB, its all cock irrespective of where it comes from.

[smiths]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

You know as a fact do you, so you were their when he has been punting. You liar, attacking others with spurious allegations is low life behaviour.

[scutty brown]

Yes of course Sergei gets freebies, I imagine its a reason they are a leeching pimp. Also their Brit counterpart Kevin gets the same, 1 the male divine pimp was exposed by one of his WGs during Olga-Gate on here, his pimp wife went nuts on their Twitter about it after Olga posted about him fucking her then trying to get rid of her. And I have been told over the years that Max Angel of Maxs Angels a London agency pimp fucks his WGs.

Its also why thinking you are a WGs first punter of the day means fuck all in reality as 15 minutes before her first booking she could of been fucking her pimp BB, its all cock irrespective of where it comes from.

And Kevin Garfoot and his son in Blackpool insist on weekly training refreshers with their pimped girls

[smiths]

Met more than a few who have openly chatted about buying property and setting up businesses, schooling their kids and taking fancy holidays (for which they posted pics via whatsapp).  No reason for them to lie about it as no-one else in the room but us (or were there...  Me and Daniela Bianchi kissing in a suite... Boris taking piccies through a two-way... I reach for my PPK... she says "Oh James, but it's so small...")

Indeed, personally show me the evidence a WG is working against her free will and I would call Crimestoppers, and the Police anonymously. In my years of experience the deal seems to be the WG sometimes chooses to work for a pimp over here as they couldn't possibly afford to rent a premises in London, just like some Brits do. The pimp gets an agreed cut of the WGs fees and she still makes a hell of a lot more than she would be staying in her home country. And sometimes the pimp is in fact another fellow countrywomen WG who has been here for some time and renting a room or rooms out.

Sadly women being forced/coerced into being WGs does happen and its for the police to get off their arses and do their job, plus the scum who do the forcing should be given a mandatory life sentence in my opinion.

Most prosecutions I read about for being a pimp don't end of with charges of trafficking and/or coercion/force, that may be the reason given by the police to the media but its often controlling prostitutes for gain, running a brothel, money laundering or a mixture of all 3 the pimp gets done for. No sympathy from me for the pimp but those WGs chose to work for the pimp in many cases.

[scutty brown]

You're an idiot. I know for a fact you would have no problem paying to punt with a girl forced against her will. Stop with your edgy behaviour against what seemed like a genuine question. Moron

I see you're back online and posting in other threads
Are you going to justify your claim?

[Happyjose]

I see you're back online and posting in other threads
Are you going to justify your claim?

I’ve sent him a personal message asking him to justify his claim, here or privately to a mod

Suspect the mod team will have done likewise

Further silence won’t serve him well

[scutty brown]

Well he just backed up another idiot poster on another thread and called me a moron at the same time.
He's making lots of friends today

[smiths]

I’ve sent him a personal message asking him to justify his claim, here or privately to a mod

Suspect the mod team will have done likewise

Further silence won’t serve him well

Daviemac has banned the fucker.

[king tarzan]

I do tend to agree with you, yes there are girls who are trafficked, but by the same token there are just as many who happily do it. Well happily may be an overstatement they do it to achieve a goal.

It sometimes difficult to judge which is which..

The three girls I have helped in the past getting away from an abusive pimp have been two English girls and one Chinese girl..

Good on you.. :thumbs:
but be careful, you wouldn't want these cunts on your doorstep...

[Happyjose]

Daviemac has banned the fucker.

Appreciate the support chaps 

[Moby Dick]

Daviemac has banned the fucker.

2years, 9 shit posts, 0 reviews, throwing “superior” accusations about.
Given plenty of opportunity.
Good riddance to the FUCKING LEECHiNG CUNT

[Hotdogboy88]

2years, 9 shit posts, 0 reviews, throwing “superior” accusations about.
Good riddance to the FUCKING LEECHiNG CUNT

+1 great shout. 

[king tarzan]

Personally i think in some brothels, I've come across some strong spicy temperament women over the years, and i couldn't see them giving a freebie to anyone.. you pay you get, you don't pay fuck off.. far as i was told by one lady they were honest brothel keepers and they were there independently, as the same women also worked at other locations that were not connected to each other.