Silagra tablets

[bingo69]

Does anyone know of an online site where you can pay for Silagra or Kamagra tablets using a debit card?

all the ones i have found only accept bank transfer.

[dwaynepaine]

You're better off using one of the online doctors / ASDA - they may be more expensive but are safer both for the tablets and the payment side being less likely to be compromised.

[scutty brown]

the manufacturers of silagra and kamagra have never bothered to get product licences valid in the UK. Importation is illegal.
As both were made by Indian patent-busters they probably realised they'd get their asses sued by Pfizer. They've never bothered to regularise things since.
You're  better off buying legal generic sildenafil from the likes of Dr Fox or Assured Pharmacy - see numerous past threads

[bingo69]

thanks for the info -is sildenafil just as good as silagra ?

[scutty brown]

Silagra is simply the brand name that the Indian company CIPLA used when they started bootlegging Sildenafil.
Kamagra is the brand name that Ajanta, another Indian bootlegger, used.
Sildenafil is the generic name of the drug discovered by Pfizer and marketed as Viagra.
Chemically its all the same drug.

[BigBoi1955]

You're  better off buying legal generic sildenafil from the likes of Dr Fox or Assured Pharmacy - see numerous past threads

You are right if money isn't a criteria in your decision making. It is for me so I've always bought the Indian product. No problems so far.

[Analist]

The Indian companies were never "bootlegging" sildenafil. They had a legal right to make sildenafil for local use while the drug was under patent. They could not call it Viagra (Pfizer trade mark) but the active ingredient is identical and should have the same effects.
While the drug was under patent, the illegal part was the online sales by third parties of sildenafil meant for India to us in the UK. Since the patent has expired, there are no restrictions and any generic manufacturer can now legally make and sell sildenafil anywhere. The good news for consumers is the competition is driving prices lower.

[scutty brown]

The Indian companies are not "bootlegging" sildenafil. They have a legal right to make sildenafil for local use. They cannot call it Viagra (Pfizer trade mark) but the active ingredient is identical and should have the same effects.
 While the drug was under patent, the illegal part was the online sales by third parties of sildenafil meant for India to us in the UK. Since the patent has expired, there are no restrictions and any generic manufacturer can now make and sell sildenafil anywhere. The good news for consumers is the competition driving prices lower.

Not really true.........they started off with a stolen bootlegged process but were protected because India refused to conform to world patent laws.
And believe me, the process was bootlegged - the manufacturing method was stolen from Pfizer by CIPLA. I've met Yusuf Hamied and I've a fair idea of where the leak came from. There's a couple of steps in the declared manufacturing method that are wrong: it deliberately misleads. Pfizer actually had to call in external help to get the process right. Its almost inconceivable that CIPLA came up with the correct process.

But the real problem nowadays is that because neither CIPLA or Ajanta has a valid UK product licence, all material on sale in the UK has been imported illegally - which means there is no supply or quality audit trail: you're open to the risk of fakes

[Marmalade]

There’s a frequent division of opinion on the forum over this: people who only use Dr Fox, Lloyds etc (and often vehemently insist that others should) and those that take varying degrees of chance. I say ‘varying degrees’ as it does seem to me to vary. Paper trails on foreign sildenafil often don’t travel to the U.K., but the figures conflate genuine concerns with scaremongering over possible or probable dangers.

Here’s an example:
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The hard statistical evidence on ‘dangerous’ is lacking: it reads a bit like “of the tens of thousands of girls working as prostitutes, many are drug addicts, sex slaves, trafficked, abused, diseased etc etc”. Not tens of thousands but included in that number.

There are dozens of these articles. Of thousands of samples, one was ‘contaminated’ with talcum powder.” In one analysis, “only 10.1% of samples were within 10% of the labelled tablet strength.” No hard statistics on how many samples could kill you and I suspect none likely if you’re not hypotensive, diabetic etc etc.

There are some countries that are inherently dodgy. Others where a major high street pharmacy is not better or worse than Boots. They are not all shoddy about who they get their supplies from or the certifications of manufacture (none of which gets as far as the U.K. in most cases).

Part of the problem is that they are, by an economically and politically twisted definition ‘counterfeit’ — just like most prossies are “trafficked” (just not in the ordinary sense of of the word usually).

There is the same situation with protein bars and most health supplements sold in Britain. The checks are fucking shoddy. Many contain more or less of the said ingredient and some contain contaminants. (Look at results from independent testing labs with no ax to grind e.g. ConsumerLab.com.

On the other hand, thousands of people are using them and not dropping dead. If you’re generally healthy same way you can withstand the odd dodgy Chinese meal. You just don’t go back to the same place.

If you can afford it, especially if you’re taking a lot of the stuff, get it from British outlets. The same goes for Cialis (under that name or as tadalafil). But the only really serious documented cases I’ve come across involved people with diabetes or very low blood pressure in the first place. A bit like street food: if you have a dodgy stomach stay clear: it all depends on the source and how it’s handled. Work out what safe means to you — ...and if you are very worried, just reading the list of *possible* side effects on any drug could make you an organic vegan for life. And that ain’t safe either!!

Be sensible. Enjoy!!

[Marmalade]

And just to reply to the ‘war on Ajanta’ in particular, their sildenafil was seized as far as I can see not because there was anything wrong with it (tests confirmed there wasn’t) but because it didn’t comply with trade licenses.

See:
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The fake scare caused a massive drop in Ajanta’s share prices. Pfizer awash with smileys.

[Marmalade]

Here’s an example of some actual testing. The results may either warn or reassure you but either way note that it was a small sample size of just one batch.

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Funnily enough, Aurogra is one of the brands I personally trust less, but with not a lot of evidence. The tablets seem bigger than they should be.

Now a ‘contaminant’ is anything there that is defined as a contaminant — it could be dangerous, potentially dangerous, or simply in excess of requirements. A bulking agent could be innocuous or not. In some cases there are ‘additives’ to make the product easier to digest (as in chewable sildenafil). The study uses two different examples of foods safety limits. Mostly they are more stringent I think than other countries (eg Europe — but America has more idiots that need to be protected).

We don’t have the benefit of legal chewable sildenafil or sildenafil gel yet (both of which are healthier on the stomach), much less the more absorbable form that has been developed.

Another highly market-controlled medicine is statins. A letter from leading members of the Royal Collages to NICE (the organisation that virtually controls NHS guidelines) pointed out, curiously, a massive difference between industry funded studies (that always show how wonderful statins are) and the few completely independent studies that mostly suggest the opposite. There is little evidence to suggest that 150mg of sildenafil (rather than 50) is terribly harmful to normal individuals, even if they only intended to take 50mg. As far as I remember neither dose can lower your blood pressure more than a standard anti- high blood pressure drug — which is not dangerous unless you have low blood pressure or are messing about with other stuff like poppers. If in doubt, speak to your doctor or spend 20 quid on a digital home blood pressure unit from any chemist. If you’re still in doubt or borderline, maybe tell Dr Fox! 

[Steve McQueen]

I use to purchase Kamagra but as purchasing has been relaxed in the UK I know use a licensed online pharmacy. Purchase is simple with a card and delivery next day option is available. You do have to answer a few health questions but only once,so reordering is simple. I recently purchased Spedra from them which is Italian in origin, bit more expensive but works quicker and I did notice a harder erection.. Also Lloyd’s chemists will do online purchasing and for discretion you can pick it up from one of their high st pharmacies. J

[Dalbeathie]

Not really true.........they started off with a stolen bootlegged process but were protected because India refused to conform to world patent laws.
And believe me, the process was bootlegged - the manufacturing method was stolen from Pfizer by CIPLA. I've met Yusuf Hamied and I've a fair idea of where the leak came from. There's a couple of steps in the declared manufacturing method that are wrong: it deliberately misleads. Pfizer actually had to call in external help to get the process right. Its almost inconceivable that CIPLA came up with the correct process.

But the real problem nowadays is that because neither CIPLA or Ajanta has a valid UK product licence, all material on sale in the UK has been imported illegally - which means there is no supply or quality
audit trail: you're open to the risk of fakes

Spot on. No control of starting material quality, likely test methods not validated, inadequate specifications and certainly no QP release - not great.