Modern Porn and it's influence on punting

[jc1971]

Is it just me or is modern porn all too often really violence in the guise of sex? (Give me stuff from the 1970s / 1980s anyday.....)Two SPs have said to me one of their biggest problems was 'very rough' fingering, too hard rubbing in the clit area and clients trying to see who could pump the hardest at the expense of everything else.Both girls blamed modern porn. Any thoughts guys?

[pingug]

i would agree, it used to be a mulletted german guy with 2 or 3 big busted women, now it is all multiple men abusing 1 woman,  when did that become the fantasy, surely it is the wrong way round, as far as the rough stuff  and all that trying to get them to squirt, thats ok if you have been about the block and know its not for everyone,but a lot of these younger guys are taking it as gospel

[ShadowProclamation]

I think porn has made punters more curious to try non vanilla activities. Myself included. Service providers have had to keep up with our diverse range of requirements. I can't imagine anal was so requested pre 2000, but now many people wish to try it once. Surely hard core porn has been an influence here? As for violence, I think there is a difference between consenting BDSM activity and violence. Porn has never made me want to be violent.

[peter purves]

Is it just me or is modern porn all too often really violence in the guise of sex? (Give me stuff from the 1970s / 1980s anyday.....)Two SPs have said to me one of their biggest problems was 'very rough' fingering, too hard rubbing in the clit area and clients trying to see who could pump the hardest at the expense of everything else.Both girls blamed modern porn. Any thoughts guys?

I think you could also add Hip Hop into the mix where porn met Hip Hop as with Snoop Dog.

Personally, I think it is a male attitude to make the woman scream call it by whatever term you like.  This is then reflected in porn, tv, books etc.

I have never been the Bedroom Bully type as Terror Fabulous sung 

Wha' mi say?!

Bedroom bully, she nuh waan that enuh
She want a man fi caress her up like so
Man a make love to woman like a war dem a go
Woman a bawl inna agony an holler out (Cho!)
Hardcore lovin' man you must be insane
Woman nuh waan no man fi make she feel pain

[Hobbit]

Porn is a reflection of what society has become, impatient, angry and resentful.

[Steely Dan]

I keep getting 'step sister/step mother' porn to many of my search terms.  I know it is actors, but FFS how much of this stuff is out there?

[hendrix]

Porn certainly informs the way I like to punt. I have zero interest in dfk/RO/gfe type sex. Can't imagine paying for that personally. Obviously, I only punt with whores that are happy to provide the more extreme services.

[cunningpunt]

Porn certainly informs the way I like to punt. I have zero interest in dfk/RO/gfe type sex. Can't imagine paying for that personally. Obviously, I only punt with whores that are happy to provide the more extreme services.

I'm curious to know what you regarding as more extreme but have been able to find what willing to provide.

[holland]

Is it just me or is modern porn all too often really violence in the guise of sex? (Give me stuff from the 1970s / 1980s anyday.....)Two SPs have said to me one of their biggest problems was 'very rough' fingering, too hard rubbing in the clit area and clients trying to see who could pump the hardest at the expense of everything else.Both girls blamed modern porn. Any thoughts guys?

I don't know man. There was some pretty rough stuff in the eighties as well.

[EnglishRebecca121]

Yep men seem to instantly think its " normal " and "ok" to spank , spit and be rough with out even asking nowadays

I cant be anymore clearer that im not a pse but whilst i do offer sub spanking etc its on my terms and has to be agreeable, i fucking hate porn nowadays anyway , its all fake tits and lips, bring back the 80s bush and natural tits.

and when the fuck did being banged in some shitty taxi make someone a porn star and up their rates mega high 

Yea "porn " can fuck off.

[SlamBoy]

I agree with this. The prevalence of modern pornography has, for many, turned sex into a competition and performance. And it's bullshit.

I can't tell you the number of civvies (let alone WGs) I have been with who are sick to death of guys that are either (1) virtually impotent because of their excessive reliance on pornography; or (2) unpleasant to be with because of the weird things they do or want to do that they see in increasingly violent modern pornography.

The paraphilic arousal elicited by activities such as spitting, pulling hair, slapping, verbal abuse (both ways), anal, face-fucking, slapping a girls face with your cock, jabbing her snatch with your fingers, fucking her as hard as you can, etc. etc. (and they are all classified as a paraphilia) is actually psychologically distinct from the natural human sexual experience, and instead relies on stimulating other parts of the brain (e.g. those associated with violence) in order to excite the person doing (or receiving) them. That is why those activities have decreasing marginal returns of pleasure and after a while require further and more extreme activities to experience the same stimulation.

Each to their own. If you want it, and can find someone will do it for money, go for it. Personally, I don't and won't. Not because I think I am better for not doing it (as I'm not judging those who do) but because I prefer the experience of natural sex rather than paraphilic ancillaries.

I think most punters, civvies and WGs would also secretly hold the same view as me. But as I said above, whatever floats your boat.

[Gordon Bennet]

I think this sums it up nicely:

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[peter purves]

The paraphilic arousal elicited by activities such as spitting, pulling hair, slapping, verbal abuse (both ways), anal, face-fucking, slapping a girls face with your cock, jabbing her snatch with your fingers, fucking her as hard as you can, etc. etc. (and they are all classified as a paraphilia) is actually psychologically distinct from the natural human sexual experience, and instead relies on stimulating other parts of the brain (e.g. those associated with violence) in order to excite the person doing (or receiving) them.

I am not sure I agree with pornography stimulating those parts of the brain associated with violence. Perhaps you have some evidence to the contrary.

Having spoken to Jasmine Black but reading between the lines on what she said. Porn is about creating an illusion that is a distortion of reality just like you have eloquently described.

[Waterhouse]

Yep men seem to instantly think its " normal " and "ok" to spank , spit and be rough with out even asking nowadays

I cant be anymore clearer that im not a pse but whilst i do offer sub spanking etc its on my terms and has to be agreeable, i fucking hate porn nowadays anyway , its all fake tits and lips, bring back the 80s bush and natural tits.

and when the fuck did being banged in some shitty taxi make someone a porn star and up their rates mega high 

Yea "porn " can fuck off.

Personally I don't think or assume anything is okay without asking first, even when listed on a girl's 'Enjoys' list.

One thing though, your AW profile says you are GFE with a hint of PSE... maybe that explains why you might get some distasteful things happening without being asked/agreed beforehand? 

Agree about the taxi thing - bottom of the barrel skank stuff IMO.

[catweazle]

I think there are some current trends in porn which l find unpleasant. For example, l love Thai girls but "asian street meat" l find to be a distasteful site - the very name shows the nature of how they view the girls.

There is a raft of semi-abusive porn out there and unless you can mentally filter it, l can see how it leads to the issues discussed earlier in the thread.

[Home Alone]

+1.

When you find videos on xhamster uploaded from sites with names like humiliatedMilfs.com , is it any wonder that there's a knock-on effect on punting?

[holland]

I think pornography is about pushing boundaries to the extreme for the sake of the cinematography end result.
It's a bit like watching an action movies with lots of special effects.

Without some rough shit porn would be boring as hell as much as an action movie without some great CGI, guns and explosions.

[wylie anchor]

Yep men seem to instantly think its " normal " and "ok" to spank , spit and be rough with out even asking nowadays

I cant be anymore clearer that im not a pse but whilst i do offer sub spanking etc its on my terms and has to be agreeable, i fucking hate porn nowadays anyway , its all fake tits and lips, bring back the 80s bush and natural tits.

and when the fuck did being banged in some shitty taxi make someone a porn star and up their rates mega high 

Yea "porn " can fuck off.

Totally agree, but some girls think what they see in porn is what men want too, had one wg hack up a massive dockyard oyster and spit it on my cock. Instant turn off from which there was no saving it. And some girls think a blowjob is wanking your cock near their open mouth

[Laudanum]

I think you could also add Hip Hop into the mix where porn met Hip Hop as with Snoop Dog.

Personally, I think it is a male attitude to make the woman scream call it by whatever term you like.  This is then reflected in porn, tv, books etc.

I have never been the Bedroom Bully type as Terror Fabulous sung 

Wha' mi say?!

Bedroom bully, she nuh waan that enuh
She want a man fi caress her up like so
Man a make love to woman like a war dem a go
Woman a bawl inna agony an holler out (Cho!)
Hardcore lovin' man you must be insane
Woman nuh waan no man fi make she feel pain

It's ok, I speak Jive (Airplane).

[Grenadier36]

I think there are some current trends in porn which l find unpleasant. For example, l love Thai girls but "asian street meat" l find to be a distasteful site - the very name shows the nature of how they view the girls.

There is a raft of semi-abusive porn out there and unless you can mentally filter it, l can see how it leads to the issues discussed earlier in the thread.

Indeed and whilst some are offended by such language, it seems that "violent" porn is popular with females: External Link/Members Only

[hungrypunt]

Agreed, although I do like a bit of face fucking and some bondage as much as the next guy, OK more so
but downright abuse, is being done in the name of sex.

Ive met many a young so called innocent girl via SA, (not ER yet   ) and had some good regs with also plenty short term, and the young ones MORE than instigate the thought/ideas of erm lets say, experimental , sex. Seems the younger the worse (or better dep on your POV)

Consnesual non consensual (fake rape basically) , tied up, they all want red bruised arses for some reason, throat fucking, choking, water sports etc etc.
I blame internet porn for this and THEIR minds being conditioned to this as much as men. I also blame the young boyfriends seeing the same but having no respect,no experience and doing too much charlie.

I wont even start about girls looking For "Alpha" males, "dominant daddy" I quote " I want using and abusing, anything goes, bruises, punches, as long as no broken bones"

My fucking Lord, please love get off this site or someone will take you up on that

We are what we see, internet porn has the same effect on a large percentage just as much as advertising heinz beans, it turns you on or it dont, if it does you want it. Simple.

[hungrypunt]

'very rough' fingering, too hard rubbing in the clit area

Yep and the gent I am have always observed to check and see what the preffered is.

One girl told me most guys were to scared to giv eher clit a going over hard enough and told me to go for it. Jesus she stook a bashing and soaked the hitle floor whilst stood against the wall, my wrist was fucked.
 She was a reg girl I was with for a year or so, on an arrangement and I walked away the first time thinking WHETHER SHE wanked too much 

[Ali Katt]

Is it just me or is modern porn all too often really violence in the guise of sex? (Give me stuff from the 1970s / 1980s anyday.....)Two SPs have said to me one of their biggest problems was 'very rough' fingering, too hard rubbing in the clit area and clients trying to see who could pump the hardest at the expense of everything else.Both girls blamed modern porn. Any thoughts guys?

Yes you know nothing about 70s\80s porn. Have you heard of a film called Waterpower (credited to Gerard Damiano - Devil In Miss Jones, Deep Throat)? It has a character called the enema bandit who forces enemas on women and has homages to Taxi Driver and the soundtrack stolen from Death Wish. Also a really downbeat performance from usually mediocre actor Jamie Gillis.

There were also a series of films called "Roughies" (both soft and hardcore). Most famous hardcore being films called Forced Entry, Sex Wish and The Story of Joanna. In softcore you have some Russ Meyer films, who is probably the most underrated writer\director of all time.

I also think you're either trying to score Brownie points with the WGs in question or other punters on this board by pretending to be the good guy. I know you have dark, dark fantasies, just a shame you'll never get to live them out.

[Ali Katt]

I agree with this. The prevalence of modern pornography has, for many, turned sex into a competition and performance. And it's bullshit.

I can't tell you the number of civvies (let alone WGs) I have been with who are sick to death of guys that are either (1) virtually impotent because of their excessive reliance on pornography; or (2) unpleasant to be with because of the weird things they do or want to do that they see in increasingly violent modern pornography.

The paraphilic arousal elicited by activities such as spitting, pulling hair, slapping, verbal abuse (both ways), anal, face-fucking, slapping a girls face with your cock, jabbing her snatch with your fingers, fucking her as hard as you can, etc. etc. (and they are all classified as a paraphilia) is actually psychologically distinct from the natural human sexual experience, and instead relies on stimulating other parts of the brain (e.g. those associated with violence) in order to excite the person doing (or receiving) them. That is why those activities have decreasing marginal returns of pleasure and after a while require further and more extreme activities to experience the same stimulation.

Each to their own. If you want it, and can find someone will do it for money, go for it. Personally, I don't and won't. Not because I think I am better for not doing it (as I'm not judging those who do) but because I prefer the experience of natural sex rather than paraphilic ancillaries.

I think most punters, civvies and WGs would also secretly hold the same view as me. But as I said above, whatever floats your boat.

There's a book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts which you might find interesting.

[holland]

Yes you know nothing about 70s\80s porn. Have you heard of a film called Waterpower (credited to Gerard Damiano - Devil In Miss Jones, Deep Throat)? It has a character called the enema bandit who forces enemas on women and has homages to Taxi Driver and the soundtrack stolen from Death Wish. Also a really downbeat performance from usually mediocre actor Jamie Gillis.

There were also a series of films called "Roughies" (both soft and hardcore). Most famous hardcore being films called Forced Entry, Sex Wish and The Story of Joanna. In softcore you have some Russ Meyer films, who is probably the most underrated writer\director of all time.

I also think you're either trying to score Brownie points with the WGs in question or other punters on this board by pretending to be the good guy. I know you have dark, dark fantasies, just a shame you'll never get to live them out.

+1

[holland]

Yep men seem to instantly think its " normal " and "ok" to spank , spit and be rough with out even asking nowadays

I cant be anymore clearer that im not a pse but whilst i do offer sub spanking etc its on my terms and has to be agreeable, i fucking hate porn nowadays anyway , its all fake tits and lips, bring back the 80s bush and natural tits.

and when the fuck did being banged in some shitty taxi make someone a porn star and up their rates mega high 

Yea "porn " can fuck off.

So you are a hooker who swallow sperm of strangers every day but you can't stand pornography. Bipolarism may be?

[Ali Katt]

Agreed, although I do like a bit of face fucking and some bondage as much as the next guy, OK more so
but downright abuse, is being done in the name of sex.

Ive met many a young so called innocent girl via SA, (not ER yet   ) and had some good regs with also plenty short term, and the young ones MORE than instigate the thought/ideas of erm lets say, experimental , sex. Seems the younger the worse (or better dep on your POV)

Consnesual non consensual (fake rape basically) , tied up, they all want red bruised arses for some reason, throat fucking, choking, water sports etc etc.
I blame internet porn for this and THEIR minds being conditioned to this as much as men. I also blame the young boyfriends seeing the same but having no respect,no experience and doing too much charlie.

I wont even start about girls looking For "Alpha" males, "dominant daddy" I quote " I want using and abusing, anything goes, bruises, punches, as long as no broken bones"

My fucking Lord, please love get off this site or someone will take you up on that

We are what we see, internet porn has the same effect on a large percentage just as much as advertising heinz beans, it turns you on or it dont, if it does you want it. Simple.

A very sensible and fair post IMHO. I don't want to live in a society were men are even afraid to say hello to a woman, but that is where it is heading. It's quite telling that a large number of AW profiles list "a man who knows what he wants" as being their preference - we all know what that means. There's surveys done and even lesbians get wet for what you call alpha males. No man that has ever attended a feminist rally has ever been irresistible to women. There's a reason why men like Sean Connery, Bruce Willis and Clint Eastwood are considered the sexiest men of alltime and Seth Rogen, Chris Martin and Bill gates aren't.

[Ali Katt]

I'm curious to know what you regarding as more extreme but have been able to find what willing to provide.

He answered it, PSE.

[saxophone]

Free Internet porn may have had an effect of reducing demand for prostitution and real sex altogether. Porn is, for some guys, a substitute for sex. And the rise of porn addiction and associated erectile dysfunction and desensitisation might be lowering the quality of sex for everyone involved, discouraging men and women from dating/marriage/hooking up, but also inspiring more folk to seek out more extreme acts in the hope of finding their missing gratification therein.

I blame my porn/wanking habit for my own ED issues. 6 punts, 3 successful penetrations, 0 orgasms.

But I will persevere!

[king tarzan]

i very rarely watch porn, if i do its 90's porn and gfe.. to enhance my own personal skills.. subtle and gently lot of foreplay..
only recent porn i watch repeatedly is torri black and sunny leone lesbian to enhance my mango licking skills..

[Ali Katt]

i very rarely watch porn, if i do its 90's porn and gfe.. to enhance my own personal skills.. subtle and gently lot of foreplay..
only recent porn i watch repeatedly is torri black and sunny leone lesbian to enhance my mango licking skills..

I can watch Raheem Sterling play football, it doesn't mean I can play for England.

[king tarzan]

I can watch Raheem Sterling play football, it doesn't mean I can play for England.

but you still would know how to kick a football properly after endless watching..

[Ali Katt]

but you still would know how to kick a football properly after endless watching..

Doesn't mean I could physically kick a ball into a goal. I could read every book written on sex and every video it won't necessarily make me good at sex; the only way to learn is through doing it, I wouldnt have someone rewire my house if all they had done is watch a video about electricians.

[king tarzan]

Doesn't mean I could physically kick a ball into a goal. I could read every book written on sex and every video it won't necessarily make me good at sex; the only way to learn is through doing it, I wouldnt have someone rewire my house if all they had done is watch a video about electricians.

I used to watch a lot of the great boxer Thomas Hearns as i had similar build to him and weight in terms of tall skinny welterweight with a very long reach for that particular weight class many many years ago, and discovered that i wasn't that bad at copying one of my boxing heroes..

[Ali Katt]

I used to watch a lot of the great boxer Thomas Hearns as i had similar build to him and weight many many years ago, and discovered that i wasn't that bad at copying one of my boxing heroes..

I'll agree to disagree. I used to watch porn a lot when I was teenage and in my early 20s, it only really kept my hands busy. Everybody's experiences are different but I think it had the reverse effect in that it was a safety net.

[king tarzan]

I'll agree to disagree. I used to watch porn a lot when I was teenage and in my early 20s, it only really kept my hands busy. Everybody's experiences are different but I think it had the reverse effect in that it was a safety net.

fair enough... like you though i would get a proper electrician if i needed one not a person thats just watched you tube!!

[Vivago]

I can watch Raheem Sterling play football, it doesn't mean I can play for England.

Thats true. If you followed his example you would more likely expend loads of energy getting into the box, expecting to score, get over excited and shoot too early or mistime it.

[Bogof60]

Thats true. If you followed his example you would more likely expend loads of energy getting into the box, expecting to score, get over excited and shoot too early or mistime it.

    

[davidgood]

A young regular of mine used to have a large dildo to use to simulate DP when I was up her bum. But the last time I saw her she had got rid of it as she had a couple of bad experiences with young guys who had used to too vigorously on her as they seemed to think that everything should be fast and furious like in modern porn.

I myself have watched porn in recent years to learn new positions, particularly for anal.

Regards,

davidgood 

[S.X. MacHine]

A young regular of mine used to have a large dildo to use to simulate DP when I was up her bum. But the last time I saw her she had got rid of it as she had a couple of bad experiences with young guys who had used to too vigorously on her as they seemed to think that everything should be fast and furious like in modern porn.

I myself have watched porn in recent years to learn new positions, particularly for anal.

Regards,

davidgood

With 110 reviews to your credit, I'd have thought you could write a definitive manual on sex rather than watching porn to pick up new ideas!

[Demistify]

I remember an article I think in the Mail about 8 years ago. A few SPs were interviewed and they said that the youngre blokes seemed to want to make them (the SP) hate whatever the punter was doing to them, and got off on it. They blamed porn for this. (Tried to find the article, but no luck.)

Also had SPs relay aggressive behaviour; I think it was Lola who tours in Birmingham with Tiffany who told me that she'd had blokes facialling her, she moves away because it's going where she doesn't want it or whatever, and the blokes pull her back by her hair and hold her there whilst they continue jizzing where they were.

I *love* porn but I do wonder about the effects of exposure from young ages. Saying that, I'm not sure the Government plans on this are the anwer either, but that's another discussion.

[Grumpy Pumpy]

Interesting thread.

I agree that there has always been some dark, violent, porn. But the porn that most of my generation grew up with (or more accurately had access to) was the vanilla, softcore fare in Mayfair, Men Only etc.

Modern porn can certainly be violent and misogynistic. As indeed it can be "female friendly". But it may be the proliferation and increased availability - as well as the type of porn - that is causing the problem.

That said, there is no turning back. No matter what controls governments may try to impose

[Fututor]

Personally I can say that I’d probably never have alighted on the joy of giving a pretty little arsehole a lick were it not for the availability of copious amounts of free online lesbian porn.

[Ali Katt]

Interesting thread.

I agree that there has always been some dark, violent, porn. But the porn that most of my generation grew up with (or more accurately had access to) was the vanilla, softcore fare in Mayfair, Men Only etc.

Modern porn can certainly be violent and misogynistic. As indeed it can be "female friendly". But it may be the proliferation and increased availability - as well as the type of porn - that is causing the problem.

That said, there is no turning back. No matter what controls governments may try to impose

Agree hardcore video porn is readily available today to anyone with internet access. Porn in the 70s and 80s was as tough as anything today, don't forget even stuff like choke play isn't a recent invention.

[Demistify]

Agree hardcore video porn is readily available today to anyone with internet access. Porn in the 70s and 80s was as tough as anything today, don't forget even stuff like choke play isn't a recent invention.

I am surprised at that, I thought it was all modern! Did things like throatfucking occur in old porn?

[Ali Katt]

I am surprised at that, I thought it was all modern! Did things like throatfucking occur in old porn?

A film called Deep Throat was made in 74. Things like face fucking and choking are just more prevalent now.

[Demistify]

Wasn't that more Lovelace being able to throat in a sensual way though, rather than her being throatfucked?

[Ali Katt]

Wasn't that more Lovelace being able to throat in a sensual way though, rather than her being throatfucked?

100% correct, but that was probably the catalyst that got men interested in DT as well as the possibility of face fucking etc. The Ben Dover videos I saw around the mid 90s had face fucking in.

[hungrypunt]

I am surprised at that, I thought it was all modern! Did things like throatfucking occur in old porn?

early 70s External Link/Members Only
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