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Offline YorkshireLad

I see on a lot of escort’s profiles something like ‘due to bad experiences I’m no longer seeing black or Asian men’ What exactly are they doing to these girls?  :unknown:

Offline tesla

it could be a myriad of things. like time wasting, overstaying, condescending nature, hygiene , being the wrong colour, haggling

Offline PunterNumber69

I see on a lot of escort’s profiles something like ‘due to bad experiences I’m no longer seeing black or Asian men’ What exactly are they doing to these girls?  :unknown:
I've heard of some very bad experiences with girls being robbed at knife point, which would certainly put me off if I was a working girl. However, this could also occur with a white man but maybe in certain areas/cities there are gangs around  :unknown: totally outside of my experience, so only girls can provide details  :unknown:  x 100

But they could also be friends of the girl's brother or her Uncle Joe showing up to see her, which no doubt could get tricky and potentially result in her being outed to her family and friends, which is why some WG say they don't see people from their own ethnic group. 

The same as some Polish and other EE girls say they don't see men from their home countries. They want to keep their escorting life in the UK totally separate from their life back in their home country and avoid the risk of bumping into a man they saw in the UK while out shopping 3 years later in the Polish equivalent of Tesco.

I think some men from certain ethnic groups like a good haggle about anything including an hour with a WG.

And in some cases "bad experiences" could be used to cover other reasons for not seeing a particular group of people e.g. people with Welsh accents or a particular colour of skin, weight, body type, etc.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2021, 05:26:00 pm by PunterNumber69 »

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I see on a lot of escort’s profiles something like ‘due to bad experiences I’m no longer seeing black or Asian men’ What exactly are they doing to these girls?  :unknown:
Just a reminder that discussing race brings a minimum of a 7 day ban.

Offline Webby581

I have always suspected that in almost all cases it is nothing more than an excuse for the SP's dislike of the excluded racial group, rather than the result of any real 'bad experience'.

I was rejected by a SP once for being 61 when her upper limit was 60   :lol:

Offline sparkus

No shortage of NBA threads on here now, even in the frozen wastelands of t'north it seems...

Offline JPin

PayYourWayMate highlighted the fact that ethnic punters are in the minority, so in terms of an SP "losing out", it's not a big deal, financially speaking, to employ an NBA policy (or similar) for most SPs if they decide to. Yes bad experiences can happen with white punters too, but they can't just decided not to see white punters in a country where the majority of the population/their clientele is white.

Bro, we live in the UK where the majority country is white right? Now, the majority punting population is safe to say is not black. If we are punting minorities, it's safe to say that we do not have the purchasing power as a group to dictate what providers can and will not allow. Now...if we as a punting minority seem to be causing the most hassle but yet have the weakest contribution to a WGs bottom line....why on earth does a WG need to accept our custom? It's easier to blacklist us. Sure, white punters can do the same shit black punters are accused of, but WGs cannot blacklist all white punters, they are most likely the majority; their bottom line will get wiped out...no ££££££ for them. A WG blacklisting white punters will not survive.

I think a lot of people, including me initially, neglect to consider that, although they provide a service, it's totally at their discretion because it's a very personal/intimate service that's being offered. Think about how traumatic it must be to be robbed, raped, attacked, intimidated or any other such attack of one's personal space. There's a lot to be said for trauma and how one can be triggered by the colour of a person's skin etc... I was robbed a couple of times in my teens by black boys and ended up having a fear of being jacked whenever I was alone and saw a group of black kids, and I'm mixed race and grew up in multi-racial south-east London. Some people get over their trauma easily, while others simply can't and get extremely anxious when their in the presence of someone who triggers that traumatic event.

Put yourself in their shoes; you're a woman, working (mostly) alone and you've had a few bad experiences with different black punters, who are mostly in the minority as far as business goes. You're afraid it could happen again, how do you minimise the risk?

I think this comment is useful in understanding why an SP would adopt an NBA policy.

She didn't have the NBA policy when I saw her. She did mention some roadmen had tried to rob her the week before and she was going to put the NBA policy on. If you're an old cunt you'll be fine.

It's a complicated topic but this is my take on the "bad experiences" reasoning.

As with most things, this all becomes a bit different when you start to consider the influence of money (i.e. less NBAs among higher tier SPs). But that's another discussion.

Offline lillythesavage

PayYourWayMate highlighted the fact that ethnic punters are in the minority, so in terms of an SP "losing out", it's not a big deal, financially speaking, to employ an NBA policy (or similar) for most SPs if they decide to. Yes bad experiences can happen with white punters too, but they can't just decided not to see white punters in a country where the majority of the population/their clientele is white.

I think a lot of people, including me initially, neglect to consider that, although they provide a service, it's totally at their discretion because it's a very personal/intimate service that's being offered. Think about how traumatic it must be to be robbed, raped, attacked, intimidated or any other such attack of one's personal space. There's a lot to be said for trauma and how one can be triggered by the colour of a person's skin etc... I was robbed a couple of times in my teens by black boys and ended up having a fear of being jacked whenever I was alone and saw a group of black kids, and I'm mixed race and grew up in multi-racial south-east London. Some people get over their trauma easily, while others simply can't and get extremely anxious when their in the presence of someone who triggers that traumatic event.

Put yourself in their shoes; you're a woman, working (mostly) alone and you've had a few bad experiences with different black punters, who are mostly in the minority as far as business goes. You're afraid it could happen again, how do you minimise the risk?

I think this comment is useful in understanding why an SP would adopt an NBA policy.

It's a complicated topic but this is my take on the "bad experiences" reasoning.

As with most things, this all becomes a bit different when you start to consider the influence of money (i.e. less NBAs among higher tier SPs). But that's another discussion.

Interesting perspective, well written and explained :hi:

Offline PunterNumber69

PayYourWayMate highlighted the fact that ethnic punters are in the minority, so in terms of an SP "losing out", it's not a big deal, financially speaking, to employ an NBA policy (or similar) for most SPs if they decide to. Yes bad experiences can happen with white punters too, but they can't just decided not to see white punters in a country where the majority of the population/their clientele is white.

I think a lot of people, including me initially, neglect to consider that, although they provide a service, it's totally at their discretion because it's a very personal/intimate service that's being offered. Think about how traumatic it must be to be robbed, raped, attacked, intimidated or any other such attack of one's personal space. There's a lot to be said for trauma and how one can be triggered by the colour of a person's skin etc... I was robbed a couple of times in my teens by black boys and ended up having a fear of being jacked whenever I was alone and saw a group of black kids, and I'm mixed race and grew up in multi-racial south-east London. Some people get over their trauma easily, while others simply can't and get extremely anxious when their in the presence of someone who triggers that traumatic event.

Put yourself in their shoes; you're a woman, working (mostly) alone and you've had a few bad experiences with different black punters, who are mostly in the minority as far as business goes. You're afraid it could happen again, how do you minimise the risk?

I think this comment is useful in understanding why an SP would adopt an NBA policy.

It's a complicated topic but this is my take on the "bad experiences" reasoning.

As with most things, this all becomes a bit different when you start to consider the influence of money (i.e. less NBAs among higher tier SPs). But that's another discussion.
You might be right, but there do seem to be an awful lot of bad experiences happening.

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It amazes me when people posts after a Mod has already posted this:
Discussing a subject that is not allowed  :unknown: :unknown:

Just a reminder that discussing race brings a minimum of a 7 day ban.

Who wants to be the first banned on this thread  :unknown:
« Last Edit: September 27, 2021, 11:20:54 pm by Kev40ish »

Offline Home Alone

I have always suspected that in almost all cases it is nothing more than an excuse for the SP's dislike of the excluded racial group, rather than the result of any real 'bad experience'.

I was rejected by a SP once for being 61 when her upper limit was 60   :lol:
She wasn't from a village just the North Yorkshire side of the border with West Yorkshire, was she, Webby581?

I had one of the worst punts of my life 15 years ago when I turned up at the house of an SP who worked in a town answering that description few minutes late. I apologised, and then made the mistake of being honest when she asked me how old I was.

I confessed to being 60.

"Didn't you read my Profile?", she asked.

"Yes", I replied. "It says you don't see men over 60; which I'm not. And you looked so sexy on your Profile, I thought it would be okay."

It was without doubt my biggest mistake as a punter.  :bomb:
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 11:42:32 pm by Home Alone »

Offline Bootyhunter01

I see on a lot of escort’s profiles something like ‘due to bad experiences I’m no longer seeing black or Asian men’ What exactly are they doing to these girls?  :unknown:

As a black man, I really prefer WGs to just put on their that they don't see punters from this or that race and stop putting the bad experience nonsense. If they had bad experience with a white man, will they exclude all white men? I bet no. Sex is intimate an  affair so its only fair for them to have a preference,  I don't fancy Thai Chinese etc will not book them. Not because of bad experience, just preference,  I have played with some but  not my first choice.  I do appreciate when girls put on their profile they don't see blacks. It saves time and you move to the next profile quick, better than wasting your time or turning up to have a bad experience. I once met a girl in a parlour who had an adulwork profile saying she doesn't see blacks, she was EE (It was the place run by luna and Ellie in Morley). I asked luna and Ellie about it ,they  reassured me she will see me. After the shower I was waiting in the room I could hear heated discussions between the 3 and the girl came in the room visibly upset. I didn't know what to do i decided to call it a day  and started getting dressed,  she just stood up and walked out , not a single word exchanged . As I was walking out luna was came in asking what happened i explained we both felt uncomfortable. I came the next day had a tiresome with them at a discounted price  ( I had met both on several occasions at notorious girls current la maison, including an overnight). Since then, if a girl displays no blacks,  I appreciate it and move on.

Offline Bootyhunter01

it could be a myriad of things. like time wasting, overstaying, condescending nature, hygiene , being the wrong colour, haggling
Or it could be that they don't like to see people from their own race, plenty of black girls don't see black men, plenty of polish exlude polish punter and Asian wgs etc.  I know also few WGs who have black boyfriends and doesn't see blacks at work.  It could be also simply that they just don't fancy a particular race. In the swinging scene,  you meet plenty of girls who doesn't see white men. There are thousands of reasons behind it some are actually married to white men.

Offline Vice Admiral

I came the next day had a tiresome with them.

I've also had a few punts like that over the years, Booty.

Offline Bootyhunter01

I've also had a few punts like that over the years, Booty.

Ha ha I meant threesome. Bloody word predict.