House of Divine - West Kensington - Avoid

[pisceanuk]

I have been to this place a few times now and honestly not impressed.

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The photos of the WGs are brushed up and the girl shown is mostly not the one in the pic which is a major disappointment if you travel all the way. I tried booking initially Cherry, Nicole and then Chelsea. The girls are not hot and not good looking either. I tried cherry and some of the other girls and when I reached the place I was shown someone else who looks completely different to the pictures and not at all good looking and potentially diseased ridden with pimples all over the body etc.

The receptionist is rude as well.

I have been noticing lack of good escorts around London recently and started visiting this crap place based on the pics they show on their website but just to find the trip was complete waste of time.

Avoid this place.

[smiths]

I have been to this place few times and honestly not impressed.

The photos of the WGs are brushed up and the girl shown is mostly not the one in the pic which is a major disappointment if you travel all the way. The girls are not hot and not good looking either. I tried cherry and some of the other girls and when I reached the place I was shown someone else who looks completely different to the pictures and potentially diseased ridden with pimples all over the body etc.

The receptionist is rude as well.

Avoid this place.

Some years ago on another punting forum now gone the pimps who run HOD a couple of cunts called the divines made a pledge from that point onwards to be honest about their WGs ages, sizes and to use very minimal touching up of pics. Soon afterwards I caught them out lying about the age of one of their WGs.

Instead of being honest what they do is bribe some willing punters with discounts to post positive reviews and forum feedback including defending them on here. The banned VT was on the take, the also banned Raylondoner also was, who knows how many other pricks on here are. Fortunately the pimps are banned off here.

[pisceanuk]

Its ridiculous place. One of the WGs I have seen couple of months back seemed drugged and was almost falling asleep during the session. The place is a corn.

Some years ago on another punting forum now gone the pimps who run HOD a couple of cunts called the divines made a pledge from that point onwards to be honest about their WGs ages, sizes and to use very minimal touching up of pics. Soon afterwards I caught them out lying about the age of one of their WGs.

Instead of being honest what they do is bribe some willing punters with discounts to post positive reviews and forum feedback including defending them on here. The banned VT was on the take, the also banned Raylondoner also was, who knows how many other pricks on here are. Fortunately the pimps are banned off here.

[LLPunting]

Not a review.  Moved.

[Kaluuu276]

Terrible place with back to back bookings.
I would rather spend my monies on AW.

[pisceanuk]

Agree.

Terrible place with back to back bookings.
I would rather spend my monies on AW.

[pisceanuk]

No worries. I posted review on the individual escorts. However, it does not make sense. Its much easier to list down issues with girls with the same agency than try to post individual reviews.

Not a review.  Moved.

[smiths]

No worries. I posted review on the individual escorts. However, it does not make sense. Its much easier to list down issues with girls with the same agency than try to post individual reviews.

HOD isn't an agency its a brothel or if you want to be polite a parlour set-up, you cant review brothels/agencies themselves on here just the WGs who work at them so admin wants a separate review per WG. A punter can post a thread up on a regional board warning other punters of the pimps outfit, HOD has a quite recent thread on this London board complaining about them. And this thread is now obviously another thread complaining about them. This and your 2 new reviews will be read by who knows how many punters.

[pisceanuk]

Agree. The idea is to expose them for wasting time of punters and this forum is the best bet for that.

HOD isn't an agency its a brothel or if you want to be polite a parlour set-up, you cant review brothels/agencies themselves on here just the WGs who work at them so admin wants a separate review per WG. A punter can post a thread up on a regional board warning other punters of the pimps outfit, HOD has a quite recent thread on this London board complaining about them. And this thread is now obviously another thread complaining about them. This and your 2 new reviews will be read by who knows how many punters.

[wannabe]

Best to stick with independents imho, and do research on here to check them out.

[boardyhell]

as always you have to pick the right girl ,then no problem
hod is good for me,local
michelle ,apple presently
kirsty recently
hod might not be perfect but certainly it will be a loss when it goes

[Stevensmiles]

With an ex copper running the place you would expect total honesty wouldn’t you. 

[niceguyjames]

I have to agree I don't understand why people make posts about bashing this place, if you don't like it then don't go there it is that simple full stop when you see othe4 girls and don't have a good experience for some reason nobody posted the whole thread in this forum about it.

HOD is a safe place for the girls to work and punters to visit , it's properly run and the girls aren't trafficked overall the industry is better with them on board

[niceguyjames]

Terrible place with back to back bookings.
I would rather spend my monies on AW.

most girls do back to back bookings , they run a business.  They want to make as much money as they can and that means volume . So you can pretend to yourself that the girl you are seeing from AW only sees one guy a day etc etc but really 30 mins before you arrived she was sucking cock

[LLPunting]

I have to agree I don't understand why people make posts about bashing this place, if you don't like it then don't go there it is that simple full stop when you see othe4 girls and don't have a good experience for some reason nobody posted the whole thread in this forum about it.

HOD is a safe place for the girls to work and punters to visit , it's properly run and the girls aren't trafficked overall the industry is better with them on board

White knighting HoD eh?  See all those bright red dots on your chest and nags head?  Keep singing it's praises, please do.

HoDs MO has been declining since it lost the flat in South Ken.  The generally good quality of service offered by most of the girls became the rarity, more and more new faces arrived with poor attitudes and service levels.  Where before they allowed time between clients for the girls to reset they shifted to back to back and ending sessions prematurely.  They may be 130 per hour (not cheap) but you only get 45mins of action after all the faffing and "hospitality" that's done in series rather than concurrently (e.g. drinks, cash, towels, oil, condoms, whatever).  A half decent indie at 120-150 will be giving you more playtime even if the service levels are comparable and so giving you better VFM.

Given the number of negs and complaints made previous on this board it's not properly run, at least consistently.

The industry is not better with them around,  the girls would still be working elsewhere either doing shit or good business.  The smart, good ones would be indies  offering their quality of service but without the rush and therefore delivering better VFM.

[LLPunting]

most girls do back to back bookings , they run a business.  They want to make as much money as they can and that means volume . So you can pretend to yourself that the girl you are seeing from AW only sees one guy a day etc etc but really 30 mins before you arrived she was sucking cock

Plenty of girls don't back to back, especially the ones worth (re-)visiting.  Some managements still gap appointments.
Time constrained volume processing only matters when someone wants to do as little time as possible for maximum return.  This would describe the attitude of a non-service oriented SP i.e. a shit one.
Allowing 10-15 mins between hour punts on a 12 hour shift loses 2 slots but improves your ability to accommodate a walk-in when another punter cancels or no-shows or the slot isn't booked (5-10 between 30 mins) and not have to piss off subsequent bookings by running late.

Girls without good reputation or a conveyor-belting management will be idle at points during the day.  So it's quite possible that the SP you're snogging won't have been scoffing cock for at least 30 mins.  And those good ones that have time between will have freshened up properly rather than swilling a glug of wine/beer/vodka/coke

[smiths]

I have to agree I don't understand why people make posts about bashing this place, if you don't like it then don't go there it is that simple full stop when you see othe4 girls and don't have a good experience for some reason nobody posted the whole thread in this forum about it.

HOD is a safe place for the girls to work and punters to visit , it's properly run and the girls aren't trafficked overall the industry is better with them on board

The why in my case is the divines who own HOD bribe some willing punters like the banned VT who admitted he got a secret discount at one of their MK brothels to do reviews which attempts to undermine UKP, no doubt he got the same at HOD. The also banned Raylondoner was also well dodgy in my book. Now you and others who punt at HOD may not give a flying fuck about that but I do and will post what I wish about it to inform punters, some of whom may give a shit like me so they are aware. Pimps like them are trying to tout for business using such punters, they cant do it themselves on here, one, they were banned years ago and two admin wouldn't allow it so using punters is an ideal way for them.

Punters on here that bother themselves as to why others bash HOD are acting very strangely in my view from experience of punting forums, why are you bothered, what difference does it make to you what others post and think about HOD. You are free to post what you like as other posters are, if they want to bash HOD they can do so unless admin tells them not to. Some of us have principles and don't give business and money to pimps like them, and yes I have punted through HOD years ago before I was aware of how they operate, I wouldn't again.

[LLPunting]

The why in my case is the divines who own HOD bribe some willing punters like the banned VT who admitted he got a secret discount at one of their MK brothels to do reviews which attempts to undermine UKP, no doubt he got the same at HOD. The also banned Raylondoner was also well dodgy in my book. Now you and others who punt at HOD may not give a flying fuck about that but I do and will post what I wish about it to inform punters, some of whom may give a shit like me so they are aware. Pimps like them are trying to tout for business using such punters, they cant do it themselves on here, one, they were banned years ago and two admin wouldn't allow it so using punters is an ideal way for them.

Punters on here that bother themselves as to why others bash HOD are acting very strangely in my view from experience of punting forums, why are you bothered, what difference does it make to you what others post and think about HOD. You are free to post what you like as other posters are, if they want to bash HOD they can do so unless admin tells them not to. Some of us have principles and don't give business and money to pimps like them, and yes I have punted through HOD years ago before I was aware of how they operate, I wouldn't again.

Oh and +1 to all this too.

[niceguyjames]

Plenty of girls don't back to back, especially the ones worth (re-)visiting.  Some managements still gap appointments.
Time constrained volume processing only matters when someone wants to do as little time as possible for maximum return.  This would describe the attitude of a non-service oriented SP i.e. a shit one.
Allowing 10-15 mins between hour punts on a 12 hour shift loses 2 slots but improves your ability to accommodate a walk-in when another punter cancels or no-shows or the slot isn't booked (5-10 between 30 mins) and not have to piss off subsequent bookings by running late.

Girls without good reputation or a conveyor-belting management will be idle at points during the day.  So it's quite possible that the SP you're snogging won't have been scoffing cock for at least 30 mins.  And those good ones that have time between will have freshened up properly rather than swilling a glug of wine/beer/vodka/coke

you are deluding yourself , plenty of girls do back to back and plenty don't.  But you figured that out already before you decided to visit there and were happy to accept that is the system in play. If it was really a big issue you wouldn't have visited.  So in my opinion you are totally fine with the setup and that's why you visited there.

There are plenty of girls that offer a good service there again you're deluding yourself thatvdor some reason if a girl works there she doesn't offet a good service but if you see tjebsame girls outside she offers even better service

[LLPunting]

you are deluding yourself , plenty of girls do back to back and plenty don't.  But you figured that out already before you decided to visit there and were happy to accept that is the system in play. If it was really a big issue you wouldn't have visited.  So in my opinion you are totally fine with the setup and that's why you visited there.

There are plenty of girls that offer a good service there again you're deluding yourself thatvdor some reason if a girl works there she doesn't offet a good service but if you see tjebsame girls outside she offers even better service

Donald?  Is that you?

[niceguyjames]

Donald?  Is that you?

huh ?

[niceguyjames]

At the end of the day it's a safe place for the girls to work, a safe place for punters to visit no pimps going to turn up and Rob you and the prices are good value for money .

So for me I will keep going back to hod, ypur comments are lame about it being a rip off and back to back , you knew that before you went there and there are plenty of girls that do back to back that are independents
 So why do you not co.plain about them and why did you go to hod in the first place when you knew it was back to back before you went

[pisceanuk]

I am not visiting HOD because its running a charity etc. Girls are not trafficked is a good thing and I would prefer such places. However, if you use deception to get punters to your door then that's not right. I was not knowing anything about HOD before I gave it a try 2 or 3 times. Only one girl I have seen there seemed okay looks wise but she was definitely on drugs and was almost sleeping during the action and I just lost interest. I did post individual reviews on the escorts but its simply not fair to lie and use deception to get punters on the door and if thats the approach of an organisation then why not expose it?

I have to agree I don't understand why people make posts about bashing this place, if you don't like it then don't go there it is that simple full stop when you see othe4 girls and don't have a good experience for some reason nobody posted the whole thread in this forum about it.

HOD is a safe place for the girls to work and punters to visit , it's properly run and the girls aren't trafficked overall the industry is better with them on board

[pisceanuk]

To each their own but this is a punters forum and it is important for other punters to know and make their decision.

At the end of the day it's a safe place for the girls to work, a safe place for punters to visit no pimps going to turn up and Rob you and the prices are good value for money .

So for me I will keep going back to hod, ypur comments are lame about it being a rip off and back to back , you knew that before you went there and there are plenty of girls that do back to back that are independents
 So why do you not co.plain about them and why did you go to hod in the first place when you knew it was back to back before you went

[niceguyjames]

All girls use deception to a a degree.  It's called marketing,  they tell you I'm blowjob queen , most sexy , totally insatiable etc it's all marketing spin. So to complain that hod use it is not really understanding the business on my opinion

[LLPunting]

At the end of the day it's a safe place for the girls to work, a safe place for punters to visit no pimps going to turn up and Rob you and the prices are good value for money .

So for me I will keep going back to hod, ypur comments are lame about it being a rip off and back to back , you knew that before you went there and there are plenty of girls that do back to back that are independents
 So why do you not co.plain about them and why did you go to hod in the first place when you knew it was back to back before you went

You really are lost in your own little bubble aren't you   
You don't even bother to understand what I wrote.  Accusing me of being lame for having an opposing opinion about a place that you have repeatedly praised in the face of multiple punter reports means you are treading a fine line for touting/white knighting.  Have a care or someone senior might take his boot to your rear.

[LLPunting]

All girls use deception to a a degree.  It's called marketing,  they tell you I'm blowjob queen , most sexy , totally insatiable etc it's all marketing spin. So to complain that hod use it is not really understanding the business on my opinion

 

There's acceptable hyperbole and there's false advertising.  You seem incapable of making the distinction as to what's unacceptable.
Your rationale would mean that you could never really have a negative punt because you'd have to accept that you failed to see through any spin used that led you to a poor service.  In which case why be here at all?
You could apply the same disdain for the objectivity of the members here and say any and all could be lying about their experience so why give them consideration when making your punting choices?

[niceguyjames]

You really are lost in your own little bubble aren't you   
You don't even bother to understand what I wrote.  Accusing me of being lame for having an opposing opinion about a place that you have repeatedly praised in the face of multiple punter reports means you are treading a fine line for touting/white knighting.  Have a care or someone senior might take his boot to your rear.

you are also being ignorant of the fact that there are repeated genuine reporting punters having a good time there , yet for so why are youvonly focusing on negative or suspicious reports yet ignoring thousands positive reports ?

[niceguyjames]

There's acceptable hyperbole and there's false advertising.  You seem incapable of making the distinction as to what's unacceptable.
Your rationale would mean that you could never really have a negative punt because you'd have to accept that you failed to see through any spin used that led you to a poor service.  In which case why be here at all?
You could apply the same disdain for the objectivity of the members here and say any and all could be lying about their experience so why give them consideration when making your punting choices?

come again ?

[niceguyjames]

raised in the face of multiple punter reports means you are treading a fine line for touting/white knighting.  Have a care or someone senior might take his boot to your rear.

excuse me what's this threat all about? 

[oinki]

excuse me what's this threat all about? 

Clearly a notion that you are very very suspiciously defensive of the establishment. I dont think any punter appreciate being short changed on time. Every time I see the hotties on HoD I have been reminded myself of  the time issue read over and over again from reviews.

[niceguyjames]

Clearly a notion that you are very very suspiciously defensive of the establishment. I dont think any punter appreciate being short changed on time. Every time I see the hotties on HoD I have been reminded myself of  the time issue read over and over again from reviews.

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

[nervyfooker]

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

Explain how he is wasting people's time by pointing out the issues
surrounding HOD.This is a punting forum for sharing experiences,
perfect place to moan about poor service.

Not everyone wants to confront management aka pimps about issues on the day,
some punters prefer a quiet anonymous life.

[smiths]

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

What an interesting post as its EXACTLY what the divine pimps who own HOD used to post on another punting forum now gone. As I posted in reply to them some punters don't wish to speak to pimps or maids at punts and complain, some may think a big nasty cunt will appear. UKP IS for punters to post their complaints on if they so wish.

Its now clear to me you don't give a shit about UKP being a punters forum and are so far up the divines arsehole as to be surgically attached to one of their ring pieces. Punters like you are a fucking disgrace in my book, pimp arse lickers.

[James999]

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

 

[pisceanuk]

You sound like you are working for HOD. Speak to management and what then ?

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

[niceguyjames]

So let me get this straight you feel like you have been short changed on time you decide to do nothing about it who is to blame?

Have you end of the day that place is a safe place for the girls to work a safe place for the people to visit is properly governed and probably audited by law enforcement the girls there will be paying their taxes and if there is a problem with then you can complain to management and they will do something about it

[scutty brown]

plenty of people are not short changed on time and if it really is an issue with you then why don't you take it up with the management over the place rather than coming on here and wasting everybody's time because you are not able to address the problem yourself

how much are they paying you to post here?

[smiths]

So let me get this straight you feel like you have been short changed on time you decide to do nothing about it who is to blame?

Have you end of the day that place is a safe place for the girls to work a safe place for the people to visit is properly governed and probably audited by law enforcement the girls there will be paying their taxes and if there is a problem with then you can complain to management and they will do something about it

Fucking hell, audited by law enforcement, I have read it all now, its an illegal brothel you white knight fanboy run by criminals, pimps.

[James999]

audited by law enforcement

What the fuck is that supposed to mean 

[Stanford97]

if there is a problem with then you can complain to management and they will do something about it

Why won’t they do anything about my complaint that the place is full of munters? Sorry about using such a nasty hurtful term when talking to such a nice guy.

[scutty brown]

Fucking hell, audited by law enforcement, I have read it all now, its an illegal brothel you white knight fanboy run by criminals, pimps.

I think its Karl Evanson himself posting.

see his submission to Parliament in 2009  External Link/Members Only

"............I am the owner of an escort agency and as such employ 40+ women in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire. None of the ladies working for me have been trafficked, coerced or threatened in anyway. The ladies are all self employed and welcome to come and go as they please.
During the 6 years we have traded we have paid out taxes and on 12 occasions have been visited by the Police, who have left happy that we run a respectable business and that our staff are happy in their work. The flip side to this is that the police have benefited from information we have willing given them due to the good working relationship we have developed..............."

 

[finn5555]

you are also being ignorant of the fact that there are repeated genuine reporting punters having a good time there , yet for so why are youvonly focusing on negative or suspicious reports yet ignoring thousands positive reports ?

What a cock 

[Stanford97]

"............ on 12 occasions have been visited by the Police, who have left happy that we run a respectable business and that our staff are happy in their work. The flip side to this is that the police have benefited from information we have willing given them due to the good working relationship we have developed[/b][/i]..............."

I was once talking to one of the HOD ladies and she said she recognised one of the police officers as a customer.

[smiths]

I was once talking to one of the HOD ladies and she said she recognised one of the police officers as a customer.

Probably one of Karls mates, he was a copper himself, this will no doubt be a reason why he hasn't so far got convicted of being a pimp despite running 6 or 7 brothels which must make many thousands of pounds a week in London and Milton Keynes.

[pisceanuk]

I see where its coming from. Thanks for pointing it out.

I think its Karl Evanson himself posting.

see his submission to Parliament in 2009  External Link/Members Only

"............I am the owner of an escort agency and as such employ 40+ women in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire. None of the ladies working for me have been trafficked, coerced or threatened in anyway. The ladies are all self employed and welcome to come and go as they please.
During the 6 years we have traded we have paid out taxes and on 12 occasions have been visited by the Police, who have left happy that we run a respectable business and that our staff are happy in their work. The flip side to this is that the police have benefited from information we have willing given them due to the good working relationship we have developed..............."

[magnetico]

the girls there will be paying their taxes

But not Karl, looking at External Link/Members Only 

[niceguyjames]

What a cock 

what a stupid post again you didn t want to answer the point because you know it's the truth.

There are many many many positive reports by punters there . Please acknowledge this and stop looking at the few negative reports .

The positive reports MASSIVELY out weigh the negatives,

[niceguyjames]

At the end of the day the following is true without any shadow of a doubt  .

1. The girls work there of their own free will.
2. The girls have a safe working environment.
3. The clients have a safe place to visit.
4. The place is audited by law enforcement. And is known by them, the police if they felt something was a danger to the public or not being properly run would have shut this place down ages ago , instead they have permitted it to go from 1 location to 3.
5. There are at least a thousandsl plus of positive reports over the years.
6. The prices are reasonable

Please respect this

[finn5555]

what a stupid post again you didn t want to answer the point because you know it's the truth.

There are many many many positive reports by punters there . Please acknowledge this and stop looking at the few negative reports .

The positive reports MASSIVELY out weigh the negatives,

Fuck off ....

They lie, fabricate reports, have fanboys on discounts to post positive reviews, and you are of dubious character. Gut feeling you are that slimeball pimp Karl