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Offline WestCountryLad

Just been having a clear out & found several unopened packs of generic viagra that I’d completely forgotten about.  They are 5 years out of date & it seems a shame to bin them if there’s any chance of them possibly being usable.  Anyone ever tried some seriously out of date viagra & if so, what were your results? 

Might try 1/4 a pill later & have a cheeky wank  :unknown:

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Offline Waterhouse

Sildenafil has a relatively short short life compared to many other drugs and five years out of date will almost certainly mean it’s efficacy is diminished, if not greatly so.

In my view, because it may not work how you want it to and yet still deliver side effects (bear in mind efficacy and side effects could possibly differ from pill to pill also - no sure way of telling how an expired drug may work), it’s just not worth bothering with given how cheap and easy generic Sildenafil is to pick up on-line.

Online Doc Holliday

Five years is a long time.

Viagra Shelf Life

Yes Marmalade gives a good analysis in that link.

5 years and an inexpensive, readily available drug ... just dispose of it.

Offline uncle jessie

This has just prompted  me to check on my stash , two boxes full with expiry 4/20  :dash: :dash: .

Offline lillythesavage

Depends how and where it was stored, I bought so much back from India once, it lasted me years, worked perfectly stored in a box in an ambient dark dry place, maybe not quite 5 years beyond date, but probably 4 before it was all used.

It all depends on your risk nature :D

Offline shaft10

Just been having a clear out & found several unopened packs of generic viagra that I’d completely forgotten about.  They are 5 years out of date & it seems a shame to bin them if there’s any chance of them possibly being usable. Anyone ever tried some seriously out of date viagra & if so, what were your results? 

Might try 1/4 a pill later & have a cheeky wank  :unknown:

Yes, a hard-on  :hi:

Offline Straightsix

It'll be fine, if anything the potency wears off. If they have mold on them obviously dispose and don't take 10 of them with alcohol.
Clear this with your doctor first however 
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Offline NelsonH

Let's suppose it was known that this stuff turned into a hazard if you kept it too long.   Then you can be quite sure they would be plastered with warnings to that effect.

Of course it may be less potent.  But you can always just try one out.

Offline Slow grinder

Took a 2019 sidenfil when I saw Li last week...the time before (reviewed ) she massaged my prostate to get me hard and I'm not Keen on that..anyway she had to again as the tab had no effect.

Offline WestCountryLad

Well I got bored & carried out a bit of an experiment...

Not used any ED pills for several years so was interested in trying them again after having a bit of an issue getting & staying hard on a recent punt.  A friend gave me some of his stash, which are in date, & over the last 2 evenings I’ve been spanking the monkey in the name of science  :hi:

I can confirm that the 5 year old tablets have definitely lost strength.  The in date tablet gave me a rock hard stiffy that could smash windows, the out of date one worked to some extent, but the erection intensity was nowhere near as good.  The old ones are going in the bin.

Got a beauty lined up for Sunday who’s gonna take one hell of a pounding  :D

Offline wristjob

I didn't really punt for 18 months cos covid and my old Tadalfil were a few months out of date. Had my usual 1/3 to keep me going for a 2nd pop and they did basically nothing. Probably a bad idea for a drug that can be risky at the best of times.

Online boardyhell

saw a doctor about 3 years agony had an issue with cellulitis whilst on holiday, was prescribed tablets to take away in case it recurred
she told me that the drugs lost about 2 per cent potency per years no need for new prescription every year

Offline Marmalade

yes

As an addendum to that quick review mentioned by Doc, here's a couple of papers doing analysis.

External Link/Members Only
says...
Most of drug expiration dates information is from the study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date. Hence, the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use.
... Expired drugs have not necessarily lost their potency and efficacy. The expiration date is only an assurance that the labeled potency will last at least until that date. Ongoing research shows that stored under optimal conditions, many drugs retain 90% of their potency for at least five years after the labeled expiration date, and sometimes longer. Even 10 years after the expiration date many pharmaceuticals retain a significant amount of their original potency.

External Link/Members Only:
Eight long-expired medications with 15 different active ingredients were discovered in a retail pharmacy in their original, unopened containers. All had expired 28 to 40 years prior to analysis.
... Twelve of the 14 drug compounds tested (86%) were present in concentrations at least 90% of the labeled amounts, the generally recognized minimum acceptable potency. Three of these compounds were present at greater than 110% of the labeled content. Two compounds (aspirin and amphetamine) were present in amounts of less than 90% of labeled content. One compound (phenacetin) was present at greater than 90% of labeled amounts from 1 medication tested, but less than 90% in another medication that contained that drug. (there's a table attached though sildenafil wasn't specifically tested)

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This one's paywalled but similar conclusions.
There are no published reports of human toxicity due to ingestion, injection, or topical application of a current drug formulation after its expiration date.
...When no suitable alternative is available, outdated drugs may be effective. How much potency they retain varies with the drug, the lot, the preservatives (if any), and the storage conditions, especially heat and humidity; many solid dosage formulations stored under reasonable conditions in their original unopened containers retain 􏰁90% of their potency for at least 5 years after the expiration date on the label, and sometimes much longer. Solutions and suspensions are generally less stable.

As Doc says, when the new stuff is cheap, might as well have that. Some people might find tadalafil more price-prohibitive. I've used some that were I think more than ten years old and were effective, though how effective they are compared to how they were originally is hard to judge.

Noting Ali's comment that "After a few years when you pick it up the box goes limp," they weren't in the original box, but they were still in the original bubble-pack/blister-pack whatever it's called.

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Online Doc Holliday

Thanks again Marmalade for the comprehensive analysis.

I have also taken out of date ED meds, albeit some years ago (I no longer use them). From memory probably around two years past expiration date and seemed to be OK in terms of efficacy BUT there are so many other variables to consider, making it extremely difficult to compare like with like. With Sildenafil especially stomach contents are likely to be a factor.

Then we get onto the response at cerebral level in terms of libido, stimulation levels and anxiety etc. Hugely influential factors in comparison to say a 10% reduction in efficacy due to degradation of an active ingredient.

If you are paying say £100+ of your hard earned and relying on medication to maximise your investment, the last thing you want is worrying that the sildenafil may not work because it is out of date. The reality is that it may well still work fine, but the anxiety induced in the little grey cells that it may not, is more likely to lead to Mr Floppy.

It's cheap and readily available ... why give yourself added stress by using an expired supply?

Online Doc Holliday

Well I got bored & carried out a bit of an experiment...

Not used any ED pills for several years so was interested in trying them again after having a bit of an issue getting & staying hard on a recent punt.  A friend gave me some of his stash, which are in date, & over the last 2 evenings I’ve been spanking the monkey in the name of science  :hi:

I can confirm that the 5 year old tablets have definitely lost strength. The in date tablet gave me a rock hard stiffy that could smash windows, the out of date one worked to some extent, but the erection intensity was nowhere near as good. The old ones are going in the bin.

Got a beauty lined up for Sunday who’s gonna take one hell of a pounding  :D

I assume you knew which one you were taking on each occasion so I wouldn't hold out much hope of your 'experiment' being favourably peer reviewed  ;) :D

Offline the_exile

It's cheap and readily available ... why give yourself added stress by using an expired supply?

I think that sums it up nicely, one less thing to worry about. Generic sildenafil doesn't cost a lot now.

Offline WestCountryLad

It's cheap and readily available ... why give yourself added stress by using an expired supply?

If it was only a handful I’d agree, however 28 of the bastards going in the bin seemed a bit wasteful!

Offline WestCountryLad

I assume you knew which one you were taking on each occasion so I wouldn't hold out much hope of your 'experiment' being favourably peer reviewed  ;) :D

The experiment wasn’t blinded in any way, but seeing as science has been thrown out the window these last couple of years I could defo get a job on SAGE.

Tenner says Chris Whitty’s got an AW account & has been banging pros left right & centre  :dance:

Offline DDMC30

I have used out of date gear like this and found it still works but not as strong. As stated above. I personally wouldn't be concerned about increased side effects, I would expect those would diminish rather than be more problematic. My two cents

Online Doc Holliday

The experiment wasn’t blinded in any way, but seeing as science has been thrown out the window these last couple of years I could defo get a job on SAGE.

Tenner says Chris Whitty’s got an AW account & has been banging pros left right & centre  :dance:

 :D

Offline Marmalade

The experiment wasn’t blinded in any way, but seeing as science has been thrown out the window these last couple of years I could defo get a job on SAGE.

Tenner says Chris Whitty’s got an AW account & has been banging pros left right & centre  :dance:

The trouble with SAGE — and I am guessing (but it seems a reasonable guess) is that a) it is made up of experts giving opinions: expert opinions but still opinions. Secondly, the advice at least in the past has then been summarised (by non-experts) and then handed to decision makers.

SAGE is popular as it gives ‘scientific credibility’ to the government.

Cummings was, and is, very, very unpopular. Yet his approach was and is consistently more scientific. He uses (not him personally, but cleverer people) conglomerate number crunching to produce the statistically most reliable probabilities. His methodology, likeable or not, allowed him to ‘guarantee’ the outcome of the Brexit vote. He doesn’t always get it right, or that his ethics are necessarily acceptable, but it is a more scientific approach to the analysis of data.

This is not to say SAGE are useless: but I almost tend to think that sometimes they are right simply as their conclusions just happen to coincide with common sense. The sort that could be written on the back of a matchbox.

(This is off the cuff and a bit controversial but I thought I’d throw it in there.)

Offline Marmalade

If it was only a handful I’d agree, however 28 of the bastards going in the bin seemed a bit wasteful!

Provided their constitution offers them leeway, anyone who invested in 40mg tadalafil tablets ten years ago should still be quids in.

Offline donnybob

I have these on prescription from the NHS, one packet of 4 every 28 days

I have a lot in reserve and recently when I have had to use one my erection has been nowhere near as strong as usual.

I had a meet with a civvy this morning and after reading this thread decided to check the dates, I could not believe how soon  some were going out of date.

So I took one that had the longest date and what a difference, she was giving me oral and she had agreed to  cim when she suddenly stopped, I had cum and I had absolutely no idea, i was still hard and i'd not felt anything either.

As a one off its  not really a scientific way of judging things, but I know I am going to keep an eye on the dates in the future


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I have these on prescription from the NHS, one packet of 4 every 28 days

I have a lot in reserve and recently when I have had to use one my erection has been nowhere near as strong as usual.

I had a meet with a civvy this morning and after reading this thread decided to check the dates, I could not believe how soon  some were going out of date.

So I took one that had the longest date and what a difference, she was giving me oral and she had agreed to  cim when she suddenly stopped, I had cum and I had absolutely no idea, i was still hard and i'd not felt anything either.

As a one off its  not really a scientific way of judging things, but I know I am going to keep an eye on the dates in the future
I've just got my repeat prescription and one pack expires on 01/23 and the other 10/23

Offline donnybob

I've just got my repeat prescription and one pack expires on 01/23 and the other 10/23

Crazy isn't it I know I had 3 packs all expiring 08/22

Offline GingerNuts

I have these on prescription from the NHS, one packet of 4 every 28 days

I have a lot in reserve and recently when I have had to use one my erection has been nowhere near as strong as usual.

I had a meet with a civvy this morning and after reading this thread decided to check the dates, I could not believe how soon  some were going out of date.

So I took one that had the longest date and what a difference, she was giving me oral and she had agreed to  cim when she suddenly stopped, I had cum and I had absolutely no idea, i was still hard and i'd not felt anything either.

As a one off its  not really a scientific way of judging things, but I know I am going to keep an eye on the dates in the future

If you're not using them don't order them.

Offline donnybob

If you're not using them don't order them.

They are on repeat prescription, but after reading this thread, I did not order any this month