What percentage of girls do you think are pimped?

[purple_t]

I would never willingly see a prossie who I thought was being pimped, but I guess we can never know for sure if a girl is pimped or not. I try and avoid the girls where it looks like Sergei has written their profile and instead go for the girls who appear to be truly independent, but how many girls are truly independent I do not know, I would guess a lot of girls have 'managers' even if they are not coerced into this job (or staying in it).

What percentage of girls do you think are pimped, versus those who are truly independent, and does it play on your conscience at all that you sometimes have no way of telling if a girl is being pimped?

[HappyandLucky]

IMO most have pimps, agencies, boyfriends, husbands or dealers who they are dependent on. My guess would be 25% are truly independent, work for themselves and don't pay out to others. All in all a shame. Be interested in other % views.

[purple_t]

IMO most have pimps, agencies, boyfriends, husbands or dealers who they are dependent on. My guess would be 25% are truly independent, work for themselves and don't pay out to others. All in all a shame. Be interested in other % views.

Thanks, I guess all that most of us can do is guess, but I was thinking maybe a few of the guys on here with a wealth of experience might have a rough idea or could give an educated guess.

Not really sure why I've been thinking about this now, sometimes I just think about the WGs I've seen and wonder what made them take the plunge to start whoring.

[HighlyMotivated]

Just because they're pimped, doesn't mean they are doing it reluctantly.

There was one girl who I was convinced was independent, she would say as much. Then I saw her out and about with some big EE fella who definitely looked like how I imagine a pimp would. I just assume all girls are working for someone, not that it really matters in the end

[Malvolio]

They can't all be pimped.  Now that the internet is the main source of girls for punters, there's more reason for WGs to take the independent route.

[purple_t]

They can't all be pimped.  Now that the internet is the main source of girls for punters, there's more reason for WGs to take the independent route.

Yeah I think there's got to be something to this. If a girl can rent a flat and create an AW profile, is there any need to get Sergei / Kevin / Tyrone involved? Though I suppose if they do outcalls most will require a driver / security of some kind.

[mikexxlong]

As HappyandLucky stated about 25% is a fair guess I would say out of the total number of WGs in the UK who are truly
Independent

Most will have someone/something, that has some kind of control over them in some shape or form

And let’s not forget pimps and /or drug dealers are always on the prowl looking for WGs
to gain control over for obvious reasons, & some WGs fall into the trap of these devious scumbags

[jcdmj12]

EE Girls - most of them, especially if they have poor English. Doesn't mean they are coerced, just that someone is making arrangements for them and making money off the back of that.  Anyone that works in a flat that's used by other EE girls almost certainly is.

English girls - far more likely to be independent.

[smiths]

I would never willingly see a prossie who I thought was being pimped, but I guess we can never know for sure if a girl is pimped or not. I try and avoid the girls where it looks like Sergei has written their profile and instead go for the girls who appear to be truly independent, but how many girls are truly independent I do not know, I would guess a lot of girls have 'managers' even if they are not coerced into this job (or staying in it).

What percentage of girls do you think are pimped, versus those who are truly independent, and does it play on your conscience at all that you sometimes have no way of telling if a girl is being pimped?

I see it in two separate ways, those who have pimps voluntarily and those that are forced. I think many WGs have pimps voluntarily and that of course includes WGs that work at Agencies, Parlours/Brothels and Parties but I also think many on A/W advertising as Indies have pimps as well. So my totally unprovable percentage is around 80% that do have pimps voluntarily and a very small percentage who are forced/coerced, perhaps 5% max leaving 15% who may be real Indies.

You are right to say ANY WG could have a pimp or be pimped, in punting all we have is our best judgement to use, the best I can say is I have never knowingly punted with a forced/coerced WG but I could of done unknowingly. And I include Brit WGs in this as well as foreign WGs. Pimps have been involved in prostitution for many many years and despite them being illegal I don't see that ending anytime soon. The fact is some if not many WGs cant possibly afford to rent a premises to work out of so pay an agreed cut to a pimp and he provides the premises. Now I say he but there are many female pimps or madams if you prefer, sometimes these once established themselves as WGs start renting out a room to other WGs in exchange for a cut of the WGs fees. Sometimes the madam may stop working as a WG herself and concentrate on being a madam and possibly expanding into other premises with more WGs.

The fact is no one including the police know how many WGs have pimps or are being forced, those that are being forced by evil scum the police should be helping and the pimp is convicted sentenced to a life sentence in my opinion.

[Bratpack]

I have a hunch that this one has a "manager". If you look very carefully at the verification pic, you can just about spot him.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[vw]

I have a hunch that this one has a "manager". If you look very carefully at the verification pic, you can just about spot him.

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

That is the joke of verification, anyone can do it for anyone !

Hidden Image/Members Only

[LL]

Fucking hell. Imagine being bait n switched with that! 

[Michelle Independent]

The biggest issue is a language barrier I would think.
If you can't speak English how are You gonna answer the phone, make a profile?
If you just arrived to England accommodation might be a problem too. Sometimes I reckon they feel safer this way. They don't have rent and bills coming their way so they don't need to worry I guess.
Although "pimped forced" I don't think there is a big procentage.

[James999]

big procentage.

Did you do that on purpose 

[Michelle Independent]

Grow up.
I told you before and I will say it again. If you will communicate in my language as I do in Yours than you can pick up on any mistakes you wish.

[anyfucker]

I would agree with Michelle, few are forced pimped but could not possibly guess what percentage.
i know some WGs that work as part of a group, e.g. come here for a period ranging from a couple of weeks to several months and their "office" & accommodation is provided. They don't have the hassle of finding rooms and can come and go to suit.
One WG I was talking to yesterday told me she started working for a manager then after a few months went independent. In fact she now brings in women and advertises back home "girl wanted" so no forcing and the new girl is helped with her profile and it is under her control and she is of course free to leave at any time.

[NIK]

Grow up.
I told you before and I will say it again. If you will communicate in my language as I do in Yours than you can pick up on any mistakes you wish.

Great response

Go girl! 

[NIK]

Re the original question, this is one of those boring hoary old questions that can never be answered anywhere near accuraely. Rather like  the 'what percentage of men punt?' question that keeps recurring.
For my own part I would suggest that whilst women with ruthless, criminal, clichéd type pimps may be in a minority, nearly all will have some bloke to fall back on / protect them - rather like women in general. This bloke may or may not be living on the proceeds of her whoring.

[vw]

Re the original question, this is one of those boring hoary old questions that can never be answered anywhere near accuraely. Rather like  the 'what percentage of men punt?' question that keeps recurring.
For my own part I would suggest that whilst women with ruthless, criminal, clichéd type pimps may be in a minority, nearly all will have some bloke to fall back on / protect them - rather like women in general. This bloke may or may not be living on the proceeds of her whoring.

Only bit I give a damn about is a 0% forced nothing else matters really as its a choice !

[James999]

Grow up.

If you didn't take yourself so seriously you may realise your error was quite appropriate and slightly amusing, you are showing out as a typical hard nosed polish hooker who only smiles when on the meter and the cash is coming in 

[NIK]

If you didn't take yourself so seriously you may realise your error was quite appropriate and slightly amusing, you are showing out as a typical hard nosed polish hooker who only smiles when on the meter and the cash is coming in 

You failed to quote the most relevant piece of her response.
But then again I expect you're fluent in Polish? 

[James999]

You failed to quote the most relevant piece of her response.
But then again I expect you're fluent in Polish? 

Cheer the fuck up, you miserable old git 

[Fagin Again]

Leaving aside Eastern Europeans, which are a special case ...

... (of which the most unsubtle example was once in Southampton a few years ago: a small house where the staircase led straight out of an open-plan living-room, where Vlad the Impaler and a friend were sitting chatting) ...

.... most of the escorts I know in south Hampshire are single mothers with no men in their lives (apart from the occasional one-night stand), whose philosophy can be roughly summarised as, "All the men I've ever been involved with are useless, so I might as well escort and see useless men for money."

[vw]

.... most of the escorts I know in south Hampshire are single mothers with no men in their lives (apart from the occasional one-night stand)

That's what they tell you. 

Because that's what you want to hear, they know you don't want to hear them bleating on about their OH.   


PS they have taken the word gullible out of the dictionary.   

[Yeboahsleftfoot]

I have a gut feeling that no more than 10% of working girls are truly independent

[5th Musketeer]

Yeah I think there's got to be something to this. If a girl can rent a flat and create an AW profile, is there any need to get Sergei / Kevin / Tyrone involved? Though I suppose if they do outcalls most will require a driver / security of some kind.

Interesting comment - because of the 4 WGs I have seen - all supposedly independent - they all drove themselves and of them, I know for a fact that 3 definitely WERE independent.

[willmo1]

I doubt hardly any stand alone. They either have a partner or a manager or even a gaggle of other wgs running the show with them. Its a tough game to be in so wouldnt knock them for having backup somewhere.

[5th Musketeer]

Great response

Go girl! 

+1

[Jimmyredcab]

Great response

Go girl! 

Nice to see someone get the better of James999.     

[SUMO61]

I'd say all of those who have an AW picture that isn't a selfie shot....

[Nagilum]

Only bit I give a damn about is a 0% forced nothing else matters really as its a choice !

+1

[Nagilum]

I would never willingly see a prossie who I thought was being pimped, but I guess we can never know for sure if a girl is pimped or not. I try and avoid the girls where it looks like Sergei has written their profile and instead go for the girls who appear to be truly independent, but how many girls are truly independent I do not know, I would guess a lot of girls have 'managers' even if they are not coerced into this job (or staying in it).

What percentage of girls do you think are pimped, versus those who are truly independent, and does it play on your conscience at all that you sometimes have no way of telling if a girl is being pimped?

Having a pimp does not mean they are necessarily coerced, a pimp is not always a sex trafficker.  Its a safety blanket and for some girls and less hassle too.  Eventually most smarten up and will not give their hard earned money to a pimp. 

Would I see one with a pimp?  Yes because they have a choice and they chose to have one. 

[HappyandLucky]

Be interested on how you know this for a fact?

[HappyandLucky]

Grow up.
I told you before and I will say it again. If you will communicate in my language as I do in Yours than you can pick up on any mistakes you wish.

Touche MI, but I did chuckle on the context of your spelling which I missed before it was highlighted. You should consider taking it with a smile as many WG's don't 

[LL]

Touche MI, but I did chuckle on the context of your spelling which I missed before it was highlighted. You should consider taking it with a smile as many WG's don't 

If somebody else had pointed it out perhaps she might have seen the funny side but we all know James is a windup merchant.

[eyeseebee]

The fact he has posted nearly 10000 times and never done a single review tells you all you need to know about James.

[NIK]

If somebody else had pointed it out perhaps she might have seen the funny side but we all know James is a windup merchant.

Yes his constant sarky, carping attitude has backfired on him on this one. Of course he will still try to have the last word as he always does, but anyone can see from his pathetic and totally unfunny response to me that he has lost this one.
Regardless of whether it's Michelle or not I always have respect for people who learn another language when most of us English speakers, including myself and doubtless James, find it beyond them, and I think to nit pick on this is the height of ignorance.
As for Michelle I cannot for the life of me understand why some members on here constantly seek to wind her up in an attempt to get her banned. Everyone who has seen her (I haven't) rates her highly. These good service providers - fuck knows they are few and far between! - should be cherished rather than hounded.

[Bitofluff]

Id say maybe 90% of EE girls have some kind of cooperation whether it's a telephonist or whatever. When u talk about Romanians that would go upto 99.99%