Building up Sperm for WG

[Whiteknight]

You're pretty well 100% correct. Around 10% of ejaculate is direct from the balls, the other 90% is as you correcltly say, from the prostate.

As for the state of mind thing, hmmmm. Guys who have had their prostate removed are lucky if they can still have the sensation of orgasm, it's very hard for the surgeon to remove all the prostate tissue without wrecking the nerves involved in the male orgasm.

And you are right about vasectomised guys losing only a little of their cum, as above, about 10%

I only know all this because I was vasectomised 20yrs ago, and recently had prostate reduction surgery (not removal, thankfully).

The other thing to add is that even if you have 'successful' prostate reduction surgery, afterwards ejaculation can 'backfire' into the bladder, leaving you with a somewhat disappointing display of spurty spunk. It basically becomes easier for your ejaculate to go into the bladder than down your urethra. Then the next time you pee, all the diverted spunk comes out then.

This happens to me most of the time, however my orgasms are totally insane and can last a whole minute now. I think this is because fresh nerve endings have now appeared near the surface, who knows? But when you hear women boasting about their juddering, 'whole body orgasms', that's me that is  .

The main thing were your body fixed and regain good health after surgery.  And its a bonus having long and hard orgasm.  Mine is only 20 seconds the most.  My biggest pleasures come from penetration and cum size 

[funfungoodguy]

You're pretty well 100% correct. Around 10% of ejaculate is direct from the balls, the other 90% is as you correcltly say, from the prostate.

As for the state of mind thing, hmmmm. Guys who have had their prostate removed are lucky if they can still have the sensation of orgasm, it's very hard for the surgeon to remove all the prostate tissue without wrecking the nerves involved in the male orgasm.

And you are right about vasectomised guys losing only a little of their cum, as above, about 10%

I only know all this because I was vasectomised 20yrs ago, and recently had prostate reduction surgery (not removal, thankfully).

The other thing to add is that even if you have 'successful' prostate reduction surgery, afterwards ejaculation can 'backfire' into the bladder, leaving you with a somewhat disappointing display of spurty spunk. It basically becomes easier for your ejaculate to go into the bladder than down your urethra. Then the next time you pee, all the diverted spunk comes out then.

This happens to me most of the time, however my orgasms are totally insane and can last a whole minute now. I think this is because fresh nerve endings have now appeared near the surface, who knows? But when you hear women boasting about their juddering, 'whole body orgasms', that's me that is  .

The extent of nerve damage will depend upon the type of surgery and therefore the amount of tissue removed. Less severe Prostate surgery where the cancer is not in all the lobes of the Prostate for example, may mean to keep the ability to CUM (from the lobes of the prostate that have been left), but in cases where the whole Prostate is removed [they cut the urethra (the tube you pee through), remove the Prostate and re-connect the tube] then the surgeon will sometimes have to cut away nerves too, 'Non nerve sparing surgery'. But that's nothing when the important thing is to get all the cancer removed.

You are right the nerves can sometimes recover after time, and dry orgasms can be enjoyed.

The point in mentioning all this is to emphasise the importance of having your PSA checked. In my view any man over 40-ish should know about his PSA level which, whilst not a definite, is a guide to the development of Prostate Cancer - like many cancers, a silent killer. Finding it early is the key to best chances of survival.
FF

[winkywanky]

The extent of nerve damage will depend upon the type of surgery and therefore the amount of tissue removed. Less severe Prostate surgery where the cancer is not in all the lobes of the Prostate for example, may mean to keep the ability to CUM (from the lobes of the prostate that have been left), but in cases where the whole Prostate is removed [they cut the urethra (the tube you pee through), remove the Prostate and re-connect the tube] then the surgeon will sometimes have to cut away nerves too, 'Non nerve sparing surgery'. But that's nothing when the important thing is to get all the cancer removed.

You are right the nerves can sometimes recover after time, and dry orgasms can be enjoyed.

The point in mentioning all this is to emphasise the importance of having your PSA checked. In my view any man over 40-ish should know about his PSA level which, whilst not a definite, is a guide to the development of Prostate Cancer - like many cancers, a silent killer. Finding it early is the key to best chances of survival.
FF

Absolutely this!

I am actually a little annoyed that despite levels of prostate cancer being on a par with breast cancer in women, men over a certain age are not routinely screened. I think it's a scandal. I don't mean this nastily, but I think basically men don't lke complaining about things, certainly they are generally more reluctant to go and see their doc.

All the more reason then, as well as the prostate awareness campaigns, FFS screen us!

Women/girls get screened routinely for HPV, cervical cancer and breast cancer, guys get fuck all.

Looking back, I started developing enlarged prostate 'waterworks' symptoms in my mid-40s, it was only around 10yrs later that I went to see my GP. She gave me a questionnaire to fill in with stuff about how many times I pee in the night, during the day, how much comes out, rate of flow etc, and I was in the top 5% percentile of severe symptoms. By the time I had my surgery around a year later, I was on the verge of totally blocking up (full bladder, can't pee, excrutiating pain). Infact a mate of mine was admitted to hospital in tears, and waited 4hrs in A&E to be catheterised.

[winkywanky]

In my case I had to have a lot of tissue destroyed in my medial and both lateral lobes. With a new, superheated steam process    . Six weeks with no ejaculation post-op allowed  and then re-establishing normal functioning was scarily slow. But I have ended up with a good outcome, thank God, just a little retro-ejaculation, and I can live with that because I have to scrape myself off the ceiling when I cum now  ..

[workinallweek]

What does wind me up is when a girl takes it as a personal affront if you don’t cum. I’ve always only ever been a 1 pop guy but some days it just doesn’t happen. Someone mentioned a dry cum but if the girl doesn’t see a big load she sometimes presumes you’re not having a good time (which makes you feel worse when they express this). I guess what I’m saying is we’re not all machines!

 i mentioned it   and to be honest ive never had a problem from the girls although they can get jaw ache   

[workinallweek]

In my case I had to have a lot of tissue destroyed in my medial and both lateral lobes. With a new, superheated steam process    . Six weeks with no ejaculation post-op allowed  and then re-establishing normal functioning was scarily slow. But I have ended up with a good outcome, thank God, just a little retro-ejaculation, and I can live with that because I have to scrape myself off the ceiling when I cum now  ..

 i get that  no mess but jesus its good  .Well it was the last few times   

[winkywanky]

i get that  no mess but jesus its good  .Well it was the last few times   

I actually warn girls now. Some observe me with a look of detached, open-mouthed wonderment when I cum, others seem a little scared   

[workinallweek]

I actually warn girls now. Some observe me with a look of detached, open-mouthed wonderment when I cum, others seem a little scared   

actually i know what you mean  saturday the girl looked at me with a grin of success  lol

[winkywanky]

actually i know what you mean  saturday the girl looked at me with a grin of success  lol

There is life after prostate surgery 

[funfungoodguy]

"Absolutely this!

I am actually a little annoyed that despite levels of prostate cancer being on a par with breast cancer in women, men over a certain age are not routinely screened. I think it's a scandal. I don't mean this nastily, but I think basically men don't lke complaining about things, certainly they are generally more reluctant to go and see their doc.

All the more reason then, as well as the prostate awareness campaigns, FFS screen us!

Women/girls get screened routinely for HPV, cervical cancer and breast cancer, guys get fuck all."
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I completely agree and have been on about this. Women get screening for breast and cervical cancer and get letters if they don't turn up, i don't now the stats but i think as many men die of Prostate cancer than women of breast cancer so there ought to be screening, However you can make some progress yourself; if over the age of say 40, you are having a blood test for anything, then ask them to include a PSA check too, and make sure you check that reading with your GP. it is not definitive but it can be an indicator.
FF

[winkywanky]

"Absolutely this!

I am actually a little annoyed that despite levels of prostate cancer being on a par with breast cancer in women, men over a certain age are not routinely screened. I think it's a scandal. I don't mean this nastily, but I think basically men don't lke complaining about things, certainly they are generally more reluctant to go and see their doc.

All the more reason then, as well as the prostate awareness campaigns, FFS screen us!

Women/girls get screened routinely for HPV, cervical cancer and breast cancer, guys get fuck all."
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I completely agree and have been on about this. Women get screening for breast and cervical cancer and get letters if they don't turn up, i don't now the stats but i think as many men die of Prostate cancer than women of breast cancer so there ought to be screening, However you can make some progress yourself; if over the age of say 40, you are having a blood test for anything, then ask them to include a PSA check too, and make sure you check that reading with your GP. it is not definitive but it can be an indicator.
FF

Yes you are right, but the point is that men should be offered it. Perhaps even more so than women, who are much more likely to ask for tests for themselves.

I'm actually very proactive with this kind of thing, most men aren't. It is scandalous.

[Home Alone]

Absolutely this!

I am actually a little annoyed that despite levels of prostate cancer being on a par with breast cancer in women, men over a certain age are not routinely screened. I think it's a scandal. I don't mean this nastily, but I think basically men don't lke complaining about things, certainly they are generally more reluctant to go and see their doc.

All the more reason then, as well as the prostate awareness campaigns, FFS screen us!

Women/girls get screened routinely for HPV, cervical cancer and breast cancer, guys get fuck all.

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You are SO right about this, ww.

We blokes are [in]famous for putting a brave face on things; and bit by bit - accelerated, no doubt, by the pandemic, the Services we pay for in our taxes the NHS provides are failing us. It's only by each of us approaching our GPs and more or less demanding that this screening - or whatever treatment we need; see below - is carried out that the rest of the country will wake up to how many gaps there are in NHS provision these days.

For example, I had quite a bad fall in late January/early February. I pulled a hamstring and have had one telephone consultation - 'chat' would be a more appropriate word - with a physiotherapist, who suggested some exercises for me "to try out". I'm due my first face-to-face meeting with another physio on Thursday, but fear I'll get a phone call, cancelling it.

[winkywanky]

You are SO right about this, ww.

We blokes are [in]famous for putting a brave face on things; and bit by bit - accelerated, no doubt, by the pandemic, the Services we pay for in our taxes the NHS provides are failing us. It's only by each of us approaching our GPs and more or less demanding that this screening - or whatever treatment we need; see below - is carried out that the rest of the country will wake up to how many gaps there are in NHS provision these days.

For example, I had quite a bad fall in late January/early February. I pulled a hamstring and have had one telephone consultation - 'chat' would be a more appropriate word - with a physiotherapist, who suggested some exercises for me "to try out". I'm due my first face-to-face meeting with another physio on Thursday, but fear I'll get a phone call, cancelling it.

I've had a mixed bag with phone consultations HA. I have a couple of serious (not life threatening but potentially life-changingish) conditions going on which will probably get worse as time passes, and it has been very difficult to get to see someone in person, at least not without a very long wait. This has I feel, allowed the situation to get unnecessarily worse in each case. A little distressing, but then of course some people have had their cancer treatment fucked up with sometimes very bad outcomes  .

Conversely, a few other things which were easily dealt with over the phone with my GP, on one occasion by sending them selfies of the affliction in question, and on the other, they texted me software while I was on the phone to them, and then opened it up to initiate a videocall with them where they got to see my affliction in movie mode  . Actually worked really well on both occasions, however despite being fairly old I'm pretty good with tech, for someone of 70 or older it would potentially be a lot more difficult. By and large my GP has been excellent, it's been hospital appts which have been more troublesome.

My surgery has a regular newsletter which they send out to all their patients, and they have already mooted that the above 'remote' approach might continue to be used for some future appointments when this is all over. Another part of the big 'reset' which has been spoken about. In addition, my procurement of regular prescriptions has now also been streamlined, I don't even have to request repeats now, they get sent over th my pharmacy directly, and as soon as the pharmacy receives them I get an immediate text. All done via their computer screens of course, not real fingers pressing buttons on a real phone, very swish.

Hopefully your physio appt will actually happen HA, and I hope your recovery hasn't been compromised in any way with what's happened.

[MrMatrix]

most times i cant even cum once these days, doesn't stop me enjoying myself with the ladies.  honestly guys do you really think the ladies give a dam.    about how many times you cum and how big your load is.  your'e paying them,  they only want your money.

No they dont care and it happens a lot when you ask them. I too enjoy being with SP's and I do care. Not a lot I can do if the little guy isnt helping out.

[Malvolio]

I have no problems getting hard a second time as I usually spend two hours with an SP, But the feeling of wanting to cum disappears and I’m just pumping away thinking this ain’t happening.  It’s now becoming a mental thing.  Not physical.

Sounds like you have a mental block - you could try just lying there, let the WG do the work and see if that helps.

[petermisc]

I am actually a little annoyed that despite levels of prostate cancer being on a par with breast cancer in women, men over a certain age are not routinely screened. I think it's a scandal. I don't mean this nastily, but I think basically men don't lke complaining about things, certainly they are generally more reluctant to go and see their doc.

Women/girls get screened routinely for HPV, cervical cancer and breast cancer, guys get fuck all.

There is a big difference, in that most cervical and breast cancers are serious, and can spread rapidly to other parts of the body.  Whereas I understand that there is a big debate that much treatment of prostate cancer, particularly in older men, has more drawbacks than benefits. 

[oldmanking]

Yeah even though I like to make sure i've not unloaded for a week or two before a booking I find I'm usually able to only cum once and after that I'm done.

In my last booking with Jamiee in MK I saw her for 90 mins and whilst I did manage to cum twice the 2nd time was only after quite a lot of self love by me and Jamiee helping with a great show of her pussy and ass and even then it was a far weaker orgasm.

funny then how that name doesn't appear in any of your 5 reviews?  in fact all your reviews are for the same agency by the looks of it?

[petermisc]

Before I visit a SP I usually won’t ejaculate for over a week. So when it’s time for action I’m very hard and very excited.    The problem I have is after round one I find it difficult to cum again.  I can get hard without difficulties but my pipes feel disconnected.The last time I visited a SP I decided not to build up so much, but still had the same problem.  Just wondering how much you guys build up before a meet?

Jeez, when I visit an SP it is so that I come away feeling good.  Feeling under pressure to perform is almost guaranteed failure.  If you are going to set yourself targets, that you are only going to be happy if you have managed to squeeze so many out in the allotted time, then you are only setting yourself up to fail. 

Personally, if I can make my first cum a dry cum, then the second time around my erection is much harder, and the second orgasm much more intense.  But if I let it all go first time, then not only is it nowhere near as pleasurable, but it takes me a long time to get a second erection.  And the longer I have left seeing an SP, the more likely it is that I blow it all first time.  Some of my most intense and pleasurable punts have been the morning after a punt the previous evening.

[olddognewtricks49]

Being 70 odd with prostate probs I ejaculate very little and combined with tenancy to be bit prem also lose intense feeling, tried viagra and can orgasm 2nd time with regular girl who can get me there even if not quite hard enough for penetration 2nd time,  the right girl helps a lot

[winkywanky]

There is a big difference, in that most cervical and breast cancers are serious, and can spread rapidly to other parts of the body.  Whereas I understand that there is a big debate that much treatment of prostate cancer, particularly in older men, has more drawbacks than benefits.

Sorry, no.

Look at the death rates from breast cancer and prostate cancer. I believe they are similar?

It is true that many guys die with prostate cancer than of it, but what about all the mental turmoil and potential ending of your sex life when perhaps you were still active and enjoying your cock, rather than simply seeing it as something to pee out of?

You are right in that after weighing up all the pros and cons of whether to have treatment or not, you should get to be able to make a choice of whether to accept the inherent risks and go under the knife or not. But if you don't screen, then that choice will be frequently taken away from you.

Screening men would save some lives, that is fact. Early detection would often save a man's sex life. Fact. What's not to like?

The big difference is that men are more complicated...yes, really. A high PSA result doesn't always mean cancer, a low PSA test doesn't always mean no cancer. But having a PSA test once a year, having a friendly finger up your bum would find any nobbly bits (likely cancerous) and combine that with a waterworks questionnaire. Between those three there would be an effective screening programme for men.

Forewarned is forearmed, knowledge is power. It goes for men just as it does for women. Men are being short-changed here  .

[winkywanky]

Just like with other cancers, early discovery will generally make much better outcomes.

[winkywanky]

Being 70 odd with prostate probs I ejaculate very little and combined with tenancy to be bit prem also lose intense feeling, tried viagra and can orgasm 2nd time with regular girl who can get me there even if not quite hard enough for penetration 2nd time,  the right girl helps a lot

None of my business what those issues are, but you say you have 'probs'.

I hope you have had it looked at, and had a full and frank discussion with a healthcare professional about any potential options you may have to improve your situation.

Please, do it.

If you've done that already, I'll shut the fuck up  .

[olddognewtricks49]

It's mainly down to my prostate medications, have to make best of it I'm afraid, but with this girl I get shuddering dry 2nd orgasm quite often and once a 3rd, couldn't quite believe it,

[GingerNuts]

It's mainly down to my prostate medications, have to make best of it I'm afraid, but with this girl I get shuddering dry 2nd orgasm quite often and once a 3rd, couldn't quite believe it,

Will you be posting a review of this girl?

[winkywanky]

It's mainly down to my prostate medications, have to make best of it I'm afraid, but with this girl I get shuddering dry 2nd orgasm quite often and once a 3rd, couldn't quite believe it,

Again, none of my business and I don't wish to coerce you into giving away personal details, but if your issues aren't cancer related, rather to do with prostate enlargement, then I hope you've had that proper, in-depth chat with your GP/Consultant.

Whether you decide to have surgery is up to you (if indeed it's applicable in your case) but my own personal experience of stuff like Tamsulosin, Alfuzosin etc is that they gave me little benefit and I didn't like the side-effects. I am infinitely happier post-surgery than I was taking those meds, but you have to realise that a NHS Consultant won't offer you surgery unless you're decisive about it. Of course surgery carries risks, any surgery does, but the modern methods are fantastic now and have an extremely high likelihood of a good outcome.

[MrMatrix]

Sorry, no.

Look at the death rates from breast cancer and prostate cancer. I believe they are similar?

It is true that many guys die with prostate cancer than of it, but what about all the mental turmoil and potential ending of your sex life when perhaps you were still active and enjoying your cock, rather than simply seeing it as something to pee out of?

You are right in that after weighing up all the pros and cons of whether to have treatment or not, you should get to be able to make a choice of whether to accept the inherent risks and go under the knife or not. But if you don't screen, then that choice will be frequently taken away from you.

Screening men would save some lives, that is fact. Early detection would often save a man's sex life. Fact. What's not to like?

The big difference is that men are more complicated...yes, really. A high PSA result doesn't always mean cancer, a low PSA test doesn't always mean no cancer. But having a PSA test once a year, having a friendly finger up your bum would find any nobbly bits (likely cancerous) and combine that with a waterworks questionnaire. Between those three there would be an effective screening programme for men.

Forewarned is forearmed, knowledge is power. It goes for men just as it does for women. Men are being short-changed here  .

Wise words WW. I get PSA test every year, but as you say/imply you can get false positives. Cycling and sex before a PSA test can cause such a result. Currently have 4 friends with prostate cancer 3 are being monitored and are "in the system". which is the key thing as they get quarterly checks and indeed one gets a biopsy once a year. The 4th guy had it removed.

[Link7]

The best sex is impulsive. Punting no different - you can schedule it for 12 o clock next Tuesday but you dont know what your mood will be and how you'll feel. The best time is just when the urge strikes and you seize the moment. No particular advantage to waiting a week if you're horny today.

[winkywanky]

Wise words WW. I get PSA test every year, but as you say/imply you can get false positives. Cycling and sex before a PSA test can cause such a result. Currently have 4 friends with prostate cancer 3 are being monitored and are "in the system". which is the key thing as they get quarterly checks and indeed one gets a biopsy once a year. The 4th guy had it removed.

And wise words form yourself too sir  .

The two examples you quote are true, if you have a PSA test coming up then you should refrain from cycling or having sex for a week (even sex with yourself  ).

Two guys I know have had total prostatectomies due to cancer, three have had prostate reduction for benign prostate hyperplasia (enlarged prostate) and loads of guys I know have slow pee rates. As I stand at the urinal next to them now, peeing like a horse after my own op (while they take five seconds to even get started, then spurt a tiny bit, dribble a start again, and then take 10s finishing off) I look them in the eye (obviously) and tell them to go take the questionnaire at their GPs, as well as a finger up the bum and a blood test.

[Arch]

Back in my 30's I used to have no trouble having 2 pops every time I booked an 1 hour session. In those days I used to budget for 1 SP visit every weekend, on most weekdays I masturbated in the evening and my 'appetite' was never affected during my weekend punt.

Now in my 40's it just doesn't happen anymore. In fact I now have to save myself up for 2-3 days just to get the urge to want to have sex.... thank god I still function normally once it is 'go time'

[funfungoodguy]

As a design project the male reproductive equipment seems quite well over engineered.
Not just one testicle but two.
Not one VAS to get the sperm to the prostate but two and they're separate systems that can run independently. remove one testicle a man can still reproduce.
The Prostate that makes the carrying fluid has not just one supply, but fourteen little lobes to make the ejaculate, so it still works even if some are removed or damaged.
Clearly the design engineers thought this was an area which was worth some quite thorough provisions to try to ensure some level of performance even in challenging or reduced optimum circumstances...   

[thenicz]

When I was a young man, it feels like forever ago, I used to have a J Arthur before I'd go out if I thought I was going to score, that way I'd avoid the embarrasment of a premature ejaculation. I used to the same if I was visiting a WG, no need now, but I have enjoyed several experiences referred to as Lingam massage (some spell it Lingham), they give me some of the most powerful ejaculations I've ever experienced.

[winkywanky]

As a design project the male reproductive equipment seems quite well over engineered.
Not just one testicle but two.
Not one VAS to get the sperm to the prostate but two and they're separate systems that can run independently. remove one testicle a man can still reproduce.
The Prostate that makes the carrying fluid has not just one supply, but fourteen little lobes to make the ejaculate, so it still works even if some are removed or damaged.
Clearly the design engineers thought this was an area which was worth some quite thorough provisions to try to ensure some level of performance even in challenging or reduced optimum circumstances...   

Always good to have 'a maintenance spare'  . Similarly, two kidneys. Amazingly, I think so long as you have one functioning kidney, all blood-cleansing duties are carried out completely normally.

I didn't know about fourteen separate lobes in the prostate, that's amazing. I'd only heard of median and (two) lateral lobes, so I guess within those lobes separate compartments or something?

[hugo.freeman]

I haven't read this whole thread but I often ask SPs in massage shops whether they allow 2 pops, some do and when they do, I often manage it.  I time it so that during the 1st hour I have a HE within the first 25 min and then ask her again about 10-15 min before the hour is up as I know it will take me longer to reach climax. 

Technique - what I often find is that a simple wanking / masturbation method doesn't do it for me, in fact it kind of kills the mood makes my man go to sleep.  As someone correctly said in the first few posts on this thread, it's often more about mental state than physical action.  I mean, of course you need physical action but I always tell them to use two hands in a cork screw manner with each hands (well oiled) going in opposite directions as if giving someone a childhood Chinese burn on their wrist, but of course, easy on the old fella.  I get powerful orgasams with this lingam massage. 

I often just close my eyes and think dirty because its the thinking dirty bit they pushes me over the edge / threshold to get a powerful orgasmic cumshot.  I have to admit, I'm often complimented on the amount of my delivery and getting tired of the same lame comment by SPs saying "oh my god, you clearly haven't emptied your sac for ages".  Dumb SPs haven't clocked on to the fact its not as if my balls are turning blue and need emptying like a cow's udder. 

It's all in the technique - to get a strong orgasam, a state of mind where the body and mind cannot guess the sensation of two hands going in opposite direction, creates a perfect and very pleasurable sensation that leads (well me anyway) to a powerful cumshot.

As for the 2nd pop, if I'm running out of time and despite all of the above, it's still not happening, I turn over to lie on my front and ask her to reach from under and behind.  WHY? Because again it's another sensation that is different from a simple and crappy wanking sensation.  I've cum almost 100% of the time (2nd pop) within 20-30 min of the 1st pop, when I'm lieing down, and butt raised slightly off the massage table and getting her to massage or wank away whilst my mental state is somewhere else.

I encourage you to try the above steps, and report your findings or "outcomes" here on my suggestion.

[hugo.freeman]

Thought I'd start a new thread with my previous reply to see what others feedback on their technique.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=316723.new#new

[daviemac]

Thought I'd start a new thread with my previous reply to see what others feedback on their technique.
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=316723.new#new

Pointless starting another thread just to copy and paste what you have said here.

[Colston36]

actually i know what you mean  saturday the girl looked at me with a grin of success  lol

Mine just go back to sleep.