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Offline Rochelle

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I pay for sex because I get none at home. My wife has has no sexual feelings for a decade now. I would never ever see prostitutes if I could get sex even once a month at home. I was aware that working girls do not fully enjoy sex with clients but I did believe that they didn’t mind being pleasured and that some ladies did get aroused. The article has proven me totally wrong. It seems that all these ladies want is money even if pleasure was to be had as a perk of their job. Some ladies mentioned in the article want us out earlier rather than sooner, and a few also want tips. They loathe haggling and say that they charge for their time, so why should we tip them? They get their stated fees and we get the time paid for, so why pay them more? If these ladies want to pleasure their clients then why expect tips? As a client, the last thing I would want is to leave a tip. I would receive no pleasure from paying more than what I am supposed to. Tipping is haggling in reverse. It is hypocrisy for ladies to dislike clients who haggle but at the same time love receiving tips. On the whole, I find the ladies who have been interviewed as hating their work but who are great actresses.
You really do spout some bollocks.

Offline finn5555

You are probably right. Perhaps I am too old and ugly to make any woman enjoy, so I made a generalisation based on my own experiences and some internet articles. Sorry. No offence intended.

You probably read the Daily Mail  :rolleyes:

Offline Home Alone

Slightly off-topic - apologies - but am I the only one here to feel that, one of the symptoms of the current times is that the pandemic is accompanied by an outbreak of generalizations on a number of threads on here? :unknown:

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Slightly off-topic - apologies - but am I the only one here to feel that, one of the symptoms of the current times is that the pandemic is accompanied by an outbreak of generalizations on a number of threads on here? :unknown:

Metro newspaper made a generalisation, and not me to start with. The headlines were: "Sex workers explain why they don’t want their clients to ‘please’ them". SOME sex workers would not have been a generalisation.

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Offline RedKettle

Slightly off-topic - apologies - but am I the only one here to feel that, one of the symptoms of the current times is that the pandemic is accompanied by an outbreak of generalizations on a number of threads on here? :unknown:

We have seen it for a long time, especially in relation to what are now banned topics on here.  It is quite frightening how some people get caught up in a group view of a particular set of people etc.

To be fair to the OP here he was quoting the article which did the generalisation.

Offline RedKettle

It's not odd for me.
It probably happens more often than you think.

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Online iq129

You really do spout some bollocks.

Rochelle, please don't take this personally but from my experience there is truth in what I said. Which woman in the world is "enjoying" her time and at the same time is telling her client to hurry up or have an alarm go off as time is nearly up? Which woman enjoys so much that she has to resort to lube?

I am just debating in a friendly way, and I mean no offence to anyone in here. This is just my point of view and I am expressing it from my personal experiences.

Yes, I know clients pay an escort for her time. If I book an hour, I expect not to stay longer. But say at 57 minutes into the punt, the lady is "enjoying" so much, she really wouldn't care if I was going into extra unpaid time. At 57 minutes, the oohs and aahs and the moans go on, and a minute later the lady is asking me to quickly come.

Yes, I know this is all an act and a fantasy, but if it is an act, i.e. an act of receiving pleasure, then how can it be real?

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Metro newspaper made a generalisation, and not me to start with. The headlines were: "Sex workers explain why they don’t want their clients to ‘please’ them". SOME sex workers would not have been a generalisation.

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Personally I don't need to read any of it, I live in the real world, I talk to and engage in sexual activities with prostitutes. Do you really believe everything you read.   

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Just because you can't manage to get a woman turned on enough to have sex doesn't mean all escorts don't enjoy sex.

« Last Edit: August 04, 2020, 09:30:05 am by daviemac »

Offline bbois77

Yup, it's the money that turns them on, a true aphrodisiac if ever there was one, cleanliness and manners are a bonus, very simple really.

Business transaction, sort of gives it away.

Online iq129

We have seen it for a long time, especially in relation to what are now banned topics on here.  It is quite frightening how some people get caught up in a group view of a particular set of people etc.

To be fair to the OP here he was quoting the article which did the generalisation.

This is what I said above. It was the newspaper that did the generalisation to start with.

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Just because you can't manage to get a woman turned on enough to have sex doesn't mean all escorts don't enjoy sex.

Cruel but accurate  :D

Offline Doc Holliday

Slightly off-topic - apologies - but am I the only one here to feel that, one of the symptoms of the current times is that the pandemic is accompanied by an outbreak of generalizations on a number of threads on here? :unknown:

Very much so. Also too many 'absolute' statements which ignore the spectrum that is life.

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We have seen it for a long time, especially in relation to what are now banned topics on here.  It is quite frightening how some people get caught up in a group view of a particular set of people etc.

To be fair to the OP here he was quoting the article which did the generalisation.
Really? He can't think for himself? You're being way too kind.

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Rochelle, please don't take this personally but from my experience there is truth in what I said. Which woman in the world is "enjoying" her time and at the same time is telling her client to hurry up or have an alarm go off as time is nearly up? Which woman enjoys so much that she has to resort to lube?

I am just debating in a friendly way, and I mean no offence to anyone in here. This is just my point of view and I am expressing it from my personal experiences.

Yes, I know clients pay an escort for her time. If I book an hour, I expect not to stay longer. But say at 57 minutes into the punt, the lady is "enjoying" so much, she really wouldn't care if I was going into extra unpaid time. At 57 minutes, the oohs and aahs and the moans go on, and a minute later the lady is asking me to quickly come.

Yes, I know this is all an act and a fantasy, but if it is an act, i.e. an act of receiving pleasure, then how can it be real?
My face at the moment basically says, "WTF!"
Do you really have no common sense?
Some will enjoy it, some won't. It's that simple.

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My face at the moment basically says, "WTF!"
Do you really have no common sense?
Some will enjoy it, some won't. It's that simple.

Yes, of course, assuming the punter is not the ugliest man in the world which I am.

Offline Doc Holliday

Yes, of course, assuming the punter is not the ugliest man in the world which I am.

If you have the skills looks are far less important.

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If you have the skills looks are far less important.

If, as in my case, you have neither, as long as you have a full wallet and observe basic rules on hygiene and manners, punting is just the best thing.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about whether a WG is "genuinely" enjoying it.

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If, as in my case, you have neither, as long as you have a full wallet and observe basic rules on hygiene and manners, punting is just the best thing.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about whether a WG is "genuinely" enjoying it.

I note the words "genuinely". I agree that as long as one enjoys then why should you care about the WG enjoying it. But then, sex is supposed to me mutually pleasurable. Nature intended it this way. If the WG is not genuinely enjoying, then what's the difference between her and a doll? WGs are good at acting, so that makes the punt seem two-sided and that is good enough for me. I enjoy, they act and pretend to enjoy. End of the matter. But then why do they spoil such Oscar style acting by reminding me that my time is up or have their alarm ring or behave in a way that Nathalie Love did by deliberately making me come too soon (please read my review on that con-artist Nathalie Love). I don't believe cleanliness or good manners or giving them presents works. It is all about looks. That's how I see it. I am not trying to offend or upset anyone who has different views than mine, but I just wanted to express my views, too which I believe I am entitled. Thanks.

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I note the words "genuinely". I agree that as long as one enjoys then why should you care about the WG enjoying it. But then, sex is supposed to me mutually pleasurable. Nature intended it this way. If the WG is not genuinely enjoying, then what's the difference between her and a doll? WGs are good at acting, so that makes the punt seem two-sided and that is good enough for me. I enjoy, they act and pretend to enjoy. End of the matter. But then why do they spoil such Oscar style acting by reminding me that my time is up or have their alarm ring or behave in a way that Nathalie Love did by deliberately making me come too soon (please read my review on that con-artist Nathalie Love). I don't believe cleanliness or good manners or giving them presents works. It is all about looks. That's how I see it. I am not trying to offend or upset anyone who has different views than mine, but I just wanted to express my views, too which I believe I am entitled. Thanks.
How old are you?

By the way, why shouldn't they remind you that your time is up? You sound like a difficult punter.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2020, 11:15:46 am by Rochelle »

Offline RedKettle

If, as in my case, you have neither, as long as you have a full wallet and observe basic rules on hygiene and manners, punting is just the best thing.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about whether a WG is "genuinely" enjoying it.

100% agree.  I like to think they are reasonably happy in their work, but not concerned about their sexual enjoyment.

Offline Doc Holliday

If, as in my case, you have neither, as long as you have a full wallet and observe basic rules on hygiene and manners, punting is just the best thing.

I really don't understand why anybody cares about whether a WG is "genuinely" enjoying it.

It's a business transaction and that means the purchaser can seek to get out of it whatever he wants. Some will pay to talk .. some will pay to experience pain and humiliation or even pay to watch a girl crush insects with her stilletos while they watch and masturbate.

Some will want the GFE where the provider will also derive some sexual pleasure (or at least appear to) Along the way some SPs may, under the right circumstances, derive sexual pleasure also. Some never will or seldom will and some often will. There is no one size fits all.
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How old are you?

By the way, why shouldn't they remind you that your time is up? You sound like a difficult punter.

Rochelle, I am 59. I am not a difficult punter and am very polite, clean and well groomed. I have a very bad inferiority complex about my ugly looks. If I was a difficult punter, ladies would not have repeated with me. I repeated with Sasha and a few others. I am sexually deprived and rejected. Sorry if this sounds insulting.

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It's a business transaction and that means the purchaser can get seek to get out of it whatever he wants. Some will pay to talk .. some will pay to experience pain and humiliation or even pay to watch a girl crush insects with her stilletos while they watch and masturbate.

Some will want the GFE where the provider will also derive some sexual pleasure (or at least appear to) Along the way some SPs may, under the right circumstances, derive sexual pleasure also. Some never will or seldom will and some often will. There is no one size fits all.
Some people will never understand that, no matter how many times you say it.

Online iq129

Some people will never understand that, no matter how many times you say it.

I will refrain from posting anymore on this topic, as otherwise I will make this thread all about me and that will be unfair to others. I appreciate everybody's views and I have expressed my own. No offence was intended, so please everyone enjoy yourselves in whatever you do, and have a lovely day.

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It's a business transaction and that means the purchaser can seek to get out of it whatever he wants. Some will pay to talk .. some will pay to experience pain and humiliation or even pay to watch a girl crush insects with her stilletos while they watch and masturbate.

Some will want the GFE where the provider will also derive some sexual pleasure (or at least appear to) Along the way some SPs may, under the right circumstances, derive sexual pleasure also. Some never will or seldom will and some often will. There is no one size fits all.

Yep. I mean, I'd say that for those who really need a WG to definitely enjoy fucking them, and aren't going to be happy with a superb professional acting job, then maybe punting isn't for them.

Offline Home Alone

Slightly off-topic - apologies - but am I the only one here to feel that, one of the symptoms of the current times is that the pandemic is accompanied by an outbreak of generalizations on a number of threads on here? :unknown:
Apologies for creating a bit of a hornet's nest earlier. And for going off-topic briefly again.

I just wanted to clarify that, as I put in my earlier post, I didn't mean to single out this thread - or any contributor to it.

I had just wondered if we were all so pissed off with life in general - and maybe the extra risk to any punting opportunities meant that we were spending longer than usual on here and going over the same ground again and again.

Sorry for any confusion I may have inadvertently caused. :hi:

Offline smiths

Yep. I mean, I'd say that for those who really need a WG to definitely enjoy fucking them, and aren't going to be happy with a superb professional acting job, then maybe punting isn't for them.

Indeed, apart from not being able to be definite any WG really is enjoying being fucked by a punter IF a punter makes this the be all and end of why they punt my advice is forget punting and take up competitive crochet. Its a very cut throat pastime though. :rolleyes:

Yes a superb professional WG doing a great acting job is just fine with me and I punted with 1 very recently.

Offline Mr_Shins

I recall one occasion where the escort was extremely horny and wanted to release.

This was an occasion where she was on tour and had just arrived in London and I met her and was her first client of the tour. So that was probably the reason, plus maybe in her nature, but certainly it is the only time I recall experiencing something like this.

One of my favourite sessions ever too. And I rarely see touring escorts.


Offline Doc Holliday

.... my advice is forget punting and take up competitive crochet. Its a very cut throat pastime though. :rolleyes:


Voice of experience? Which one is you?

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Offline Payyourwaymate

Rochelle, I am 59. I am not a difficult punter and am very polite, clean and well groomed. I have a very bad inferiority complex about my ugly looks. If I was a difficult punter, ladies would not have repeated with me. I repeated with Sasha and a few others. I am sexually deprived and rejected. Sorry if this sounds insulting.

I know you're not talking to me and it's not my business how you feel about yourself but... I don't think that you should view yourself in such a bad light. It could always be worse, try to work with what you have and build your self esteem in a realistic manner. What good is it to be to feel down about yourself until ones inevitable demise. How much time do you think you have left that you would dwell on negative subjects that would make you see yourself in a bad light?  Go thailand or the phillipines or something for a couple weeks when all the lockdowns are over, surely there's some women you can find there that will treat you well enough if anything, or go for a walk and clear your head. Self loathing is not the way.

Offline PatMacGroin

The article reads like a load of bollocks to me; typical battle hardened SAAFE style pro$$ies!

Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say the article has probably been "inspired" by a thread on SAAFE or maybe even UKE. If the quotes haven't been copied word for word from posts on those sites, then they are just as likely to have been cherry picked and paraphrased to cobble together an article for this "journalist" (check out her other articles, it's all tabloid dross, retelling whatever inane story is currently trending on social media).

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Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say the article has probably been "inspired" by a thread on SAAFE or maybe even UKE. If the quotes haven't been copied word for word from posts on those sites, then they are just as likely to have been cherry picked and paraphrased to cobble together an article for this "journalist" (check out her other articles, it's all tabloid dross, retelling whatever inane story is currently trending on social media).

Is anyone saying it's WG verbatim gospel? Obvious filler piece.

Offline PatMacGroin

Is anyone saying it's WG verbatim gospel? Obvious filler piece.

That's also pretty much what I meant.  :hi:

I quoted JC's fairly early comment with my initial gut reaction to the article. Then I quickly got bored and stopped reading the rest of the thread. Now that I have read the whole thread I wish I hadn't posted anything.  :dash:

Offline JonasG

All this makes perfect sense to be honest.

I like to give RO because it turns me on, and not because I have any delusions that the girl will have an orgasm with me. I look at RO as a service the girl gives to me, and not as something I do to make the girl have an orgasm.

I've never been the type to discuss services over the phone. If a girl doesn't offer RO, it's not an issue on a first visit, but it will make a second visit extremely unlikely.

Fingering, I'm simply not bothered with.

Exactly.

I like doing RO cos it turns me on not because I care about the WG getting off.
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Exactly.

I like doing RO cos it turns me on not because I care about the WG getting off.

I like doing RO because of the way it tastes and feels (on the right person, otherwise :scare:)

Offline Absolutman

My take and experience is that some SP take pleasure - some of the time. I like to give RO both because I enjoy it and because it often warms up the SP and she then is more likely to give a better performance. I use the word performance because even is she enjoys it somewhat or even a lot, it is still a performance with some faking sounds alongside the unmistakable sounds of pleasure.
Have had the odd experiences of SPs variously telling me I am a pro, asking what I would really like and querying with a smile on a second visit if I am in the market for a mistress ( she meant in the sense a regular rather than whips and chains). I think in each case it was either a quiet day or I was the first client of the day. In three cases, I went for a second visit and I was remembered and it was again good. The key indicator is whether they get turned on and actually want to fuck. One of the above engaged in deep penetration with her heels on my shoulders. In each case social time was good. Curiously most of these have been African or Latina and all engaged in social time. A chicken and egg whether good sex leads to good social time or the other way around.
But lest you think I am bragging, let me state that these examples are exceptional. At the other end, I had one experience of a SP, interrupt proceedings, telling me she was not in the right state of mind and give me my money back! With EE, I find them more mechanical and if I struggle to come tell me variously to take them in doggy or missionary as if there is one position that makes us come faster! When the SP does not enjoy RO, refuses fingers and uses lots of lube she is clearly trying to avoid taking pleasure. This is understandable as one my unforgetables reasonably pointed out, there is only so much pleasure they can take and too much wears them out and makes it more difficult to put in a long shift. This is obviously an issue for those in nonstop demand.
Comparing the two categories, another indicator of whether they can take place is age and experience on both sides. Best chance is with a SP with a few years experience but is still young, takes care of herself and is successful in pulling enough punters with a policy of providing good service to get repeat business. Best chance for a punter is if he is is in good shape, clean and respectful.

Offline JAYZ

As has been said many times on here it all depends on the lady. Yes some are mechanical in their interactions, but others I have seen have communicated thier pleasure by wanting more of whatever we are doing at the time. One Russian SP kept requesting me to kiss her more. It is all about the chemistry and the attitude of the SP.

Offline Son of the Desert

I agree with Absolutman and Jayz.  I'm also happy with a good actress!  but there is another way which I look at it.  Taking pleasure from sex is not quite the same as "responding to the sexual act" and I recall that I read on a few occasions that a woman's body will respond and send her pleasure signals whether she's actually "enjoying" the experience or not.  In the paid sex arena, where my pleasure is the primary goal, making the woman respond is something that I enjoy as it plays to my domination side.  Her body is there for me to use as I will and if that includes me trying to take control of her response, that's fine.  If I just want to fuck her and concentrate solely on my orgasm, that's fine too.

Offline king tarzan

There was Mia Stars and she just wanted to get fucked.. and Stacy Summer and the delicious Emily Creme brûlée were all pleasured by many genuinely... all three of them genuinely wanted to get pleasured and fucked... anyways that is my take on it..
everything signs of them being pleasured, they were damn wet, erect nipples!!! and gagging for truncheon!!
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Offline Payyourwaymate

My take and experience is that some SP take pleasure - some of the time. I like to give RO both because I enjoy it and because it often warms up the SP and she then is more likely to give a better performance. I use the word performance because even is she enjoys it somewhat or even a lot, it is still a performance with some faking sounds alongside the unmistakable sounds of pleasure.
Have had the odd experiences of SPs variously telling me I am a pro, asking what I would really like and querying with a smile on a second visit if I am in the market for a mistress ( she meant in the sense a regular rather than whips and chains). I think in each case it was either a quiet day or I was the first client of the day. In three cases, I went for a second visit and I was remembered and it was again good. The key indicator is whether they get turned on and actually want to fuck. One of the above engaged in deep penetration with her heels on my shoulders. In each case social time was good. Curiously most of these have been African or Latina and all engaged in social time. A chicken and egg whether good sex leads to good social time or the other way around.
But lest you think I am bragging, let me state that these examples are exceptional. At the other end, I had one experience of a SP, interrupt proceedings, telling me she was not in the right state of mind and give me my money back! With EE, I find them more mechanical and if I struggle to come tell me variously to take them in doggy or missionary as if there is one position that makes us come faster! When the SP does not enjoy RO, refuses fingers and uses lots of lube she is clearly trying to avoid taking pleasure. This is understandable as one my unforgetables reasonably pointed out, there is only so much pleasure they can take and too much wears them out and makes it more difficult to put in a long shift. This is obviously an issue for those in nonstop demand.
Comparing the two categories, another indicator of whether they can take place is age and experience on both sides. Best chance is with a SP with a few years experience but is still young, takes care of herself and is successful in pulling enough punters with a policy of providing good service to get repeat business. Best chance for a punter is if he is is in good shape, clean and respectful.

That's nice and all but would have been better if you reviewed mate. 6 years a member you know, letting the team down  :thumbsdown:.

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That's nice and all but would have been better if you reviewed mate. 6 years a member you know, letting the team down  :thumbsdown:.

You beat me to it, PYWM.   It always makes me laugh when we have a thread such as this and guys who have been members for years, but with no reviews to their names, suddenly find the time to write long missives which, basically, tell us what experienced, professional, long term punters they are.    :lol:

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You beat me to it, PYWM.   It always makes me laugh when we have a thread such as this and guys who have been members for years, but with no reviews to their names, suddenly find the time to write long missives which, basically, tell us what experienced, professional, long term punters they are.    :lol:

Trust me  :D. I was reading his post then looked at his review count, then looked at how long he has been a member and was aghast like you what?!  :lol:

Offline LLPunting

Trust me  :D. I was reading his post then looked at his review count, then looked at how long he has been a member and was aghast like you what?!  :lol:.

TBF he described less than 10 encounters and may well not have met any others.  With no evidence of his sample size and it's composition his "truth"  is about as real as reading the same number of random reviews posted by UKPers and inferring from them.

Offline Colston36

Both of your posts are a massive generalisation based on you totally believing that everything in the article is true of every working girl.

We are individuals not a standard issue army water bottle, I personally like the money but I also really enjoy a lot of the sex and being pleasured, I also enjoy the company I get with the men who book me, I know quite a few girls who feel the same as me.

Don't believe everything you read especially if it's a small sample of a population,  I would never say that all punters are sex starved married men, but a few are  :hi:
As usual you talk sense, Miss Wolf. And a genius agreed with you: “To Generalize is to be an Idiot; To Particularize is the Alone Distinction of Merit.”― William Blake

Offline king tarzan

Many many of the 🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅 on here have virtually taken the nipples to take off from boob pad, so they must be pleasing them.. myself included..🐅👊👊👊
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Offline Absolutman

Reply to PYWM and others commenting on the frequency of my feedback.
I am indeed an irregular punter and for various reasons, including opportunity and VFM, essentially consume when on trips abroad. In the U.K., when I do partake, I mostly use AMP on which I have had  little to report or not see that much point in reporting given the high turnover rate. For this reason I have no ‘reviews’ and my feedback is limit to ‘topics’.
Having said that, would not not be more useful to comment on actual contribution on the current topic rather than the number of reports previously? On the topic, the experiences I referred to took place over a four/five year period, of which maybe eight were relevant to this topic.

Offline tesla

Reply to PYWM and others commenting on the frequency of my feedback.
I am indeed an irregular punter and for various reasons, including opportunity and VFM, essentially consume when on trips abroad. In the U.K., when I do partake, I mostly use AMP on which I have had  little to report or not see that much point in reporting given the high turnover rate. For this reason I have no ‘reviews’ and my feedback is limit to ‘topics’.
Having said that, would not not be more useful to comment on actual contribution on the current topic rather than the number of reports previously? On the topic, the experiences I referred to took place over a four/five year period, of which maybe eight were relevant to this topic.

nice try, but you should know better for a six year member,

Offline Walsalllad15

I saw a lady in Walsall,  first time I'd saw her. Paid for 30 mins,  but ended up staying for well over the hour. I was fingering her and she was loving it that much and didn't want me to stop,  still had lots of kissing and oral, but she said that it was amazing. In fact she saved me as finger in her phone and she definitely get me in and could stay longer than I paid for if I was her last client. 

She retired as she was other 55 , but we still meet up every know and again