Streetwalkers in Bristol

[seedygit]

Hi guys,

Used to live in Bristol but haven't made the trip over for ages.   Just wondering if you still get streetwalkers in Eastville and St Paul's, or have the boys in blue stamped it out? If they're still about, what sort of process do they charge? What sort of times are they around? What is the police presence like??

Thanks in anticipation chaps

[seedygit]

Prices not process, stupid predictive text

[mattylondon]

Used to live in Bristol but haven't made the trip over for ages.

Why don't you ask Paris B. She could do with some business.

[seedygit]

Mattylondon I can't tell if you are being serious or not? If you're serious how do I contact her?

[bristolbcfc]

Mattylondon I can't tell if you are being serious or not? If you're serious how do I contact her?

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[haystacks79]

Hi guys,

Used to live in Bristol but haven't made the trip over for ages.   Just wondering if you still get streetwalkers in Eastville and St Paul's, or have the boys in blue stamped it out? If they're still about, what sort of process do they charge? What sort of times are they around? What is the police presence like??

Thanks in anticipation chaps

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[mattylondon]

Mattylondon I can't tell if you are being serious or not? If you're serious how do I contact her?

If you go carefully through the %%% reviews, you'll see a couple there. Or at least ex ones. The clue is in their rate. Probably better to arrange by phone and don't kerb crawl, where you'll be asking for trouble.

[seedygit]

Thanks guys.

[hockogrockle]

Just before Christmas, I spotted a couple of girls in between Stapleton Road and Fishponds Road. But it's a dodgy area if you're on foot after dark, and there is the "kerb crawling" risk if you are in a vehicle. The girls in this area have always had the reputation for being cheap, rough, druggies. I wouldn't go near them myself. There are plenty of indies working from flats, and a few of the massage parlours are recommendable too. So why bother with a risky encounter with a crackhead in the back of a car (or wherever)? 

[mattylondon]

Just before Christmas, I spotted a couple of girls in between Stapleton Road and Fishponds Road. But it's a dodgy area if you're on foot after dark, and there is the "kerb crawling" risk if you are in a vehicle. The girls in this area have always had the reputation for being cheap, rough, druggies. I wouldn't go near them myself. There are plenty of indies working from flats, and a few of the massage parlours are recommendable too. So why bother with a risky encounter with a crackhead in the back of a car (or wherever)?

In practice, whether you pick up the girl from your car or on foot, you'll still be pinched by the cops for soliciting just the same. There will always be street prostitutes as long as the causes for them being there still exist, in my opinion. Whilst the reasons may be slightly different, this also applies to other prostitutes, who work in their homes, hotels or establishments. 

[SteveNova]

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There was an item on BBC Points West which filmed police during this operation.  The girls were given advice and offers of support, and the men were arrested for soliciting after the punters had phoned the street girls to arrange a car meet.  It wasn't made clear but I guess the guys were regulars or the girls' numbers were being advertised somewhere.  I just don't understand the guys who want to do this    Stick to recommended indies, it's safe and legal.

[mattylondon]

There was an item on BBC Points West which filmed police during this operation.  The girls were given advice and offers of support, and the men were arrested for soliciting after the punters had phoned the street girls to arrange a car meet.  It wasn't made clear but I guess the guys were regulars or the girls' numbers were being advertised somewhere.  I just don't understand the guys who want to do this    Stick to recommended indies, it's safe and legal.

I think it's pretty unlikely any of these girls 'set them up'. Purely on the basis that the cash is more important to them. I suspect it's more likely that they were stupid and agreed to meet in a well known 'red light area', where the police were lying in wait.

Legal for now. But for how much longer? Question for you then. If it did become illegal, what would you do?

[SteveNova]

I think it's pretty unlikely any of these girls 'set them up'. Purely on the basis that the cash is more important to them. I suspect it's more likely that they were stupid and agreed to meet in a well known 'red light area', where the police were lying in wait.

Legal for now. But for how much longer? Question for you then. If it did become illegal, what would you do?

Yes, there was no evidence from the programme that the girls were part of a set-up.   As I say, the use of the mobiles was not explained fully and I just wondered if the guys somehow thought a prearranged meet was safer than 'curb crawling'.  The area was definitely portrayed as a red light district and that was why the police were there.

I hope I wouldn't stop punting should the law change.  In reality I suspect some punters may be put off for a while but then will regain their nerve - when it's obvious that the police, who struggle to control streetwalkers' activities, can't possibly make even a small dent on the indie world.

[berksboy]

    And may have better things to do ? I would hope so.

[mattylondon]

In reality I suspect some punters may be put off for a while but then will regain their nerve - when it's obvious that the police, who struggle to control streetwalkers' activities, can't possibly make even a small dent on the indie world.

Street prostitutes are an easy target. It's an overt activity. Law enforcement have also used CCTV, patrols and 'name and shame', to devastating effect, in my opinion. They'll never stamp it out totally, of course. The street scene still exists in Norway despite their draconian laws. It also exists in Amsterdam, despite the many range of other 'legit' options.

It's also worth noting that it isn't only street prostitution which is illegal in the UK. Brothels are illegal too and the police could shut them all down, including HOD, in a nano second if they so wished. I just think that the appetite isn't there from them to do so... right now. A change in the law and pressure from politicians could change everything, including against indies. In the US, they target punters seeking the services of indies through adverts and mount sting operations. 

[slavealan75]

The thing with prostitution is that without it someone like me would not get to have sex. I'm a very large guy who does not "pull" women very easily so my best change is to use escorts and to be honest. I've had sex with women miles out of my league doing it.

Am I harming anyone? I don't think so as I tend to use Independent ladies.

[XTC2]

There was an item on BBC Points West which filmed police during this operation.  The girls were given advice and offers of support ...

Street prostitutes are an easy target. It's an overt activity...

Those "offers of support" were purely for the benefit of the cameras, you can be sure of that. I've seen the way the police treat the girls in Bristol and it's appalling. It's far more likely they'd be searched for drugs or routinely questioned about shoplifting offences etc. rather than "helped" in any meaningful way. I had a rather unpleasant run in with them one time when visiting a girl in a flat, and despite knowing I had done nothing illegal both she and I were subjected to quite a bit of intimidation and not-so-veiled threats.

mattylondon's right, street girls are an especially easy target, and the plod know there's a decent chance they can arrest these girls on some other charge anyway, rather than the long and messy legal process they'd have with shutting down a brothel. Apparently they've been known to keep girls who are suspected drug addicts in overnight and wait until they're suffering from withdrawal before they interview them, presumably as a tactic to get an easy confession. They really are evil shits.

[mattylondon]

Apparently they've been known to keep girls who are suspected drug addicts in overnight and wait until they're suffering from withdrawal before they interview them, presumably as a tactic to get an easy confession. They really are evil shits.

This is so true and I know from first hand knowledge how they treat them. The police consider all prostitutes 'scum' and aren't their 'friends'. The street scene definitely changed with the police clamp down, increasing use of CCTV and the emergence of websites such as Adultwork around the mid 2000's. A great many girls either migrated to Adultwork or a very small number continued to do both. The clue is looking at some of those who will do car or outdoor meets on AW, around areas with a known 'street scene'. If things hadn't changed I believe many of them would be street girls now.

Yes, many of them do have a drug dependency, so could be considered vulnerable. More than a few are criminals and have been associated with robbing punters or shop lifting but this doesn't apply to all. There are quite a few parlor girls or indies I used to know who took coke or other drugs. The vast majority of girls I've punted have had financial problems and therefore a 'dependency' of immediate cash to pay their rent, so in my book, they could be considered 'vulnerable' too. I feel this is the one thing most prostitutes have in common. I'm sure, given a choice and the same income stream, the vast majority of women wouldn't be prostitutes but to contextualise, is it not the case many other people out there would rather do different jobs or not work at all, if they could?