Saved by UKP feedback contradicting/false FB on AW

[braggy]

I was recently looking to book and saw External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only was available. She has impeccable FBs and FRs on AW. I was about to call and book but on 2nd thoughts I checked UKP. Ouch it was a 100% negative reviews with particular mention of her body as well as service provided. So the FBs on AW is all utter rubbish?? Anyway saved by UKP

[WARSZAWA16]

Yes. Most of the feedback on AW is just mutual backscratching and to be taken with a pinch of salt really.

[standardpostage]

Sounds like you had a lucky escape 

[daviemac]

Mate, you've been here nearly 9 years and you've just realised that AW feedback is a load of crap and the reliable information is found on here.

However to answer your question 100's of people have saved money by reading reviews on here, at the same time 100's have wasted money by not reading them.

[braggy]

I am aware AW feedback is total crap and during my occasional forays into punting I make it a point to check UKP. What amazed me was the complete 100% contradicting reviews between the 2 sites I feel they are scamming

[scutty brown]

A large -at least 50%- number of those feedback are for webcam sessions, not escorting.

Also note she's a member of the "International Hush Models" who will practice "profile enhancement" aka feedback fakery

[RedKettle]

How does a WG get to straight 8 negs??  Surely after say 3 no UKP member would book her?

[daviemac]

I am aware AW feedback is total crap and during my occasional forays into punting I make it a point to check UKP. What amazed me was the complete 100% contradicting reviews between the 2 sites I feel they are scamming

Years ago there was a negative review posted on here  saying the service was crap and he was rushed out 35 minutes into an hours booking, his positive feedback on AW was "wonderful hour spent with . . . . . . . . ." when asked about it he said he posted that because he didn't want a retaliatory negative.

To sum it up people are afraid to post negative comments on AW because they don't want a negative in return.

[southern punter]

How does a WG get to straight 8 negs??  Surely after say 3 no UKP member would book her?

I looked at the last couple of reviews and it seems people are not aware that you're best off searching UKP by AW number not name

[daviemac]

I looked at the last couple of reviews and it seems people are not aware that you're best off searching UKP by AW number not name

It's best to search both, especially if nothing comes up with the number.

[scutty brown]

It's best to search both, especially if nothing comes up with the number.

and by phone number

[Blackpool Rock]

I started a similar thread a couple of months ago where i'd forgotten i'd seen a girl a few years ago, my own review saved me from punting her again 

UKP reviews stopped me from booking a few girls in the last couple of weeks, just wish more people were happy to contribute especially the Negative experiences as that saves others from also booking poor SP's

[lewisjones23]

I hardly even bother checking AW feedback.

UKP first, second and third 

[pbrown355]

Never look at AW feedback.

[magnetico]

She managed to get 248 positive, zero neutral, zero negative.


 It's really a  system as bad as ebay

[myothernameis]

Now and then I will look at AW feedback, but rely on ukpunting for info

[pythondan]

AW feedback can be useful as you can often see others users who have left feedback for other girls you have both seen. If I have a bad put with an AW girl I do not leave any feedback even if specifically asked to.

If a girl has been active in my area for a few months and has no feedback from known local punters I assume that she is not great. Obviously this works better in smaller towns and would be useless for London.

This site has saved me numerous times though so I always check on here and leave reviews myself.

[Atrueyorkie]

90% of feedback on adult work is garbage.

Adult work feedback is so unreliable because it’s so fake as nobody wants to give a negative in fear of been giving a negative back. That or the SP has bribed or created a fake person to leave fake feedback.

It’s too unreliable and not punter friendly.

If I do use Adultwork the first thing I’m doing is checking here

[Atrueyorkie]

One thing I would do analysing adultwork feedback is the type of people who have booked the SP.

If I see a punter who bb has booked an SP, that’s an instant cancellation. Even if the Sp doesn’t have it listed as a like. The fact she saw someone who bb’s is enough reason for me to do a u turn.

I also pay attention to the language used. If it’s too flowery it’s more likely bs, I’ve yet to see an sp who matches up to flowery feedback.

The date, if it’s in a flurry, too back to back or a bulk in a short time that’s another flag for me. Suggests fake or at the bare minimum the SP sees a fuck ton of people in a short time (conveyor belt).

AW feedback is shit in general but you can reverse search and disseminate a few things from it like the above.

[MissWolf]

One thing I would do analysing adultwork feedback is the type of people who have booked the SP.

If I see a punter who bb has booked an SP, that’s an instant cancellation. Even if the Sp doesn’t have it listed as a like. The fact she saw someone who bb’s is enough reason for me to do a u turn.

I also pay attention to the language used. If it’s too flowery it’s more likely bs, I’ve yet to see an sp who matches up to flowery feedback.

The date, if it’s in a flurry, too back to back or a bulk in a short time that’s another flag for me. Suggests fake or at the bare minimum the SP sees a fuck ton of people in a short time (conveyor belt).

AW feedback is shit in general but you can reverse search and disseminate a few things from it like the above.

I get all of this and fully understandwhy you do it, it keeps you safe, however there are counter arguments to most of it, me for example as I can only speak for me.

I give some very amusing fb if the booking has been really good and often drop in a key word or phrase that only myself and the client would get as it was said or referred to in the booking.
I have also given negative feedback and countered fake feedback
Sadly I can't control what others do, so if a client who has seen me and I have left good feedback for then goes on to see a BB escort it doesn't mean I also did that with them, I look after my health and that is all I and anyone else can do.

I also get the occasional flurry of feedbacks,  the simple reason is when I'm based at home I'm part time and very very low volume,  with mainly regulars, as in 1 or 2 clients a week, but I tour a few times a year for up to a week at a time, then I work at a higher volume, I leave time between to shower, eat, tidy etc but by the very nature of touring I get bursts of something like 2 to 6 fb in a go.

Just something to think about, not everything is black and white sadly

I do however agree that aw feedback is in many cases to be taken with a pinch of salt, I've had it where I have checked a clients fb and its absolutely glowing, one case of note was a gent with immaculate fb, from several girls including a duo booking, things like wonderful man, amazing in bed, skills to die for blabla bla
He turned up, had a false leg, stank of smoke, was unkempt, had long filthy nails and had piss stains all over his very grey while pants 
I was new enough and stupid enough to continue the booking  so yes I feel your pain

[Doc Holliday]

He turned up, had a false leg, stank of smoke, was unkempt, had long filthy nails and had piss stains all over his very grey while pants 
I was new enough and stupid enough to continue the booking 

Yes sorry ... I wasn't at my best that day.

[Atrueyorkie]

I get all of this and fully understandwhy you do it, it keeps you safe, however there are counter arguments to most of it, me for example as I can only speak for me.

I give some very amusing fb if the booking has been really good and often drop in a key word or phrase that only myself and the client would get as it was said or referred to in the booking.
I have also given negative feedback and countered fake feedback
Sadly I can't control what others do, so if a client who has seen me and I have left good feedback for then goes on to see a BB escort it doesn't mean I also did that with them, I look after my health and that is all I and anyone else can do.

I also get the occasional flurry of feedbacks,  the simple reason is when I'm based at home I'm part time and very very low volume,  with mainly regulars, as in 1 or 2 clients a week, but I tour a few times a year for up to a week at a time, then I work at a higher volume, I leave time between to shower, eat, tidy etc but by the very nature of touring I get bursts of something like 2 to 6 fb in a go.

Just something to think about, not everything is black and white sadly

I do however agree that aw feedback is in many cases to be taken with a pinch of salt, I've had it where I have checked a clients fb and its absolutely glowing, one case of note was a gent with immaculate fb, from several girls including a duo booking, things like wonderful man, amazing in bed, skills to die for blabla bla
He turned up, had a false leg, stank of smoke, was unkempt, had long filthy nails and had piss stains all over his very grey while pants 
I was new enough and stupid enough to continue the booking 
so yes I feel your pain

You cannot control what other punters do or who they see before or after you, I agree on that. However there is measures I “personally” used is to “mitigate” risk.

Also like to clarify nobody ever mentioned things being black and white. What points I’m raising is things to “consider”. Nothing is ever bulletproof.

If an SP is good, naturally the feedback will be consistent on both Adultwork and UKP, consistency. Simple. A shit SP is going to be shown to be a shit SP by the feedback, it will show on Ukp mainly but the few AW feedback may highlight it too as if you got a negative on adultwork then I pay close attention to that as they don’t fear the retaliation and obviously it’s up to the consumer to make a weighted decision based on if they feel that it’s justified/real.

Not directed at you but use your common loaf, there’s no foolproof guide but there’s definitely ways you can minimise shit experiences.

[MissWolf]

Yes sorry ... I wasn't at my best that day.

  clean pants next time OK

[Blackpool Rock]

Yes sorry ... I wasn't at my best that day.

PMSL 

[MissWolf]

You cannot control what other punters do or who they see before or after you, I agree on that. However there is measures I “personally” used is to “mitigate” risk.

Also like to clarify nobody ever mentioned things being black and white. What points I’m raising is things to “consider”. Nothing is ever bulletproof.

If an SP is good, naturally the feedback will be consistent on both Adultwork and UKP, consistency. Simple. A shit SP is going to be shown to be a shit SP by the feedback, it will show on Ukp mainly but the few AW feedback may highlight it too as if you got a negative on adultwork then I pay close attention to that as they don’t fear the retaliation and obviously it’s up to the consumer to make a weighted decision based on if they feel that it’s justified/real.

Not directed at you but use your common loaf, there’s no foolproof guide but there’s definitely ways you can minimise shit experiences.

Yes I might not have been clear, in general I absolutely agree with you, it's all good ways to keep safe and mitigate risk, the black and white comment was in agreement with you not suggesting you were only seeing things in black and white

Cross referencing and using this site is invaluable for punters, which is also why sharing experiences in an honest and timely way is so important

[Blackpool Rock]

You cannot control what other punters do or who they see before or after you, I agree on that. However there is measures I “personally” used is to “mitigate” risk.

Also like to clarify nobody ever mentioned things being black and white. What points I’m raising is things to “consider”. Nothing is ever bulletproof.

If an SP is good, naturally the feedback will be consistent on both Adultwork and UKP, consistency. Simple. A shit SP is going to be shown to be a shit SP by the feedback, it will show on Ukp mainly but the few AW feedback may highlight it too as if you got a negative on adultwork then I pay close attention to that as they don’t fear the retaliation and obviously it’s up to the consumer to make a weighted decision based on if they feel that it’s justified/real.

Not directed at you but use your common loaf, there’s no foolproof guide but there’s definitely ways you can minimise shit experiences.

I agree that AW feedback needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt but as you say it does offer some limited benefit in looking for some consistency to indicate the girl is real not B&S etc and also like you say who else certain punters have also seen like known BB'ers

I've sent AW e-mails to some girls who have read them and taken 5 or 10 minutes to reply, my initial reaction is "Great she's ignoring me" which is sometimes true but then when you get a reply after 5 or 10 minutes you know (or I assume) that she's been checking out my history and doing some due diligence, in my experience those girls have tended to be good punts 

Also on the AW feedback often the most useful feedback is the "Feedback only" where a booking hasn't been made but a punter is still able to make a negative comment like B&S etc though i've no idea how to do feedback only as when i've tried it just seems to say i don't have any bookings to give feedback 

[scutty brown]

........ though i've no idea how to do feedback only as when i've tried it just seems to say i don't have any bookings to give feedback 

You have to be a bit artful......
Basically make a short booking at the shortest possible notice, ideally at a time when the girl is asleep and unable to accept/reject the booking. I think from memory the shortest is a 15 minutes booking at 30 mins notice.
Once the notice time and booking time have passed then you can enter the "feedback only" report

[Atrueyorkie]

Yes I might not have been clear, in general I absolutely agree with you, it's all good ways to keep safe and mitigate risk, the black and white comment was in agreement with you not suggesting you were only seeing things in black and white

Cross referencing and using this site is invaluable for punters, which is also why sharing experiences in an honest and timely way is so important

 

[marc_hotsteppa]

He turned up, had a false leg, stank of smoke, was unkempt, had long filthy nails and had piss stains all over his very grey while pants 
I was new enough and stupid enough to continue the booking  so yes I feel your pain

*makes notes for future - must put my incontinence pants on 

[Atrueyorkie]

I agree that AW feedback needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt but as you say it does offer some limited benefit in looking for some consistency to indicate the girl is real not B&S etc and also like you say who else certain punters have also seen like known BB'ers

I've sent AW e-mails to some girls who have read them and taken 5 or 10 minutes to reply, my initial reaction is "Great she's ignoring me" which is sometimes true but then when you get a reply after 5 or 10 minutes you know (or I assume) that she's been checking out my history and doing some due diligence, in my experience those girls have tended to be good punts 

Also on the AW feedback often the most useful feedback is the "Feedback only" where a booking hasn't been made but a punter is still able to make a negative comment like B&S etc though i've no idea how to do feedback only as when i've tried it just seems to say i don't have any bookings to give feedback 

Yep agree, feedback only is another one I watch, I “think” most the time when the SP has no intention on of fulfilling the appointment they may agree to a bookings via email to string the punter along, but not confirm it through through the AW booking in an attempt null the impending bad feedback

[scutty brown]

................ and had piss stains all over his very grey while pants .......................

A kilt is so much better for hiding things like that

[MissWolf]

A kilt is so much better for hiding things like that

These were his underpants 

[Blackpool Rock]

You have to be a bit artful......
Basically make a short booking at the shortest possible notice, ideally at a time when the girl is asleep and unable to accept/reject the booking. I think from memory the shortest is a 15 minutes booking at 30 mins notice.
Once the notice time and booking time have passed then you can enter the "feedback only" report

Thanks but just wondering if the girl can still respond to the feedback only 
The problem a punter then runs into is that the girl is likely to respond with some shit about asking for BB or being dirty etc

[scutty brown]

These were his underpants 

Don't need them with a kilt. It all drip dries

[scutty brown]

Thanks but just wondering if the girl can still respond to the feedback only 
The problem a punter then runs into is that the girl is likely to respond with some shit about asking for BB or being dirty etc

Don't think she can, because she'd never accepted it, and her chance of doing that has expired

[Strawberry]

Don't think she can, because she'd never accepted it, and her chance of doing that has expired

Feedback only can be responded to, as a response

[victor989]

 
I read A/W feedback, but only for it's comedy value. 

[Blackpool Rock]

Feedback only can be responded to, as a response

Thanks, so basically it still stops many people from making / giving bad feedback for fear of counter bad feedback