Interesting YouTube vid - 'Why sex workers hate men'.

[PaulRuff]

The title is a bit 'click bait' for my liking but I found it an interesting watch all the same:

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[daviemac]

The first few seconds when she started with the 'abuse as a child leads to sex work' was enough for me to see it's utter bollocks.

[PaulRuff]

Stick with it a bit longer, there's more to the discussion than that.

[daviemac]

Stick with it a bit longer, there's more to the discussion than that.

No thanks, it's more crap from people who think they know about the real life sex industry but have't got a clue.

OK I've listened to a bit more, now she's got onto the men who pay for sex and their emotional issues, I've never heard such crap in my life.

No escort I've met fit the criteria she talks about and I certainly don't fit the type of punter she's talking about.

[RandomGuy99]

Personally, I don't think most sex workers hate men.

They understand that men have a need for sex and some men are willing to pay for it.

Believe it or not some sex workers actually enjoy their job. Sure it's not all champagne and roses, but very few jobs are.

I've only met one sex worker who really hated the job and she told me she just did it for money and hated the job and couldn't understand that anyone could enjoy it.

[jimbobted]

I've only met one sex worker who really hated the job and she told me she just did it for money and hated the job and couldn't understand that anyone could enjoy it.

And that would have seen me out the door. What a total turn off. I wouldn't be able to have sex with someone who'd just told me she hates having sex with punters.

[RandomGuy99]

And that would have seen me out the door. What a total turn off. I wouldn't be able to have sex with someone who'd just told me she hates having sex with punters.

Yes, I walked and she got angry that I wanted to leave. She said "why did you take it out?". She didn't seem to understand that I didn't want to have my dick in a woman who was clearly unhappy about the job she was doing.

[Colston36]

The first few seconds when she started with the 'abuse as a child leads to sex work' was enough for me to see it's utter bollocks.

Once more we enter The Land of Sweeping Assertions by Fuckwits.

I had an affair for some years with a woman whose father abused her.

She told me she loved what her father did. She was no fool: owner of a leading firm in its field and a happy bunny generally and sexually.

All these howls of rage  from people who presume to speak for everyone are folly.

As George Bernard Shaw remarked, "what men seek is not knowledge but certainty".

[daviemac]

Once more we enter The Land of Sweeping Assertions by Fuckwits.

Exactly, I can't understand why people give the crap publicity. 

[Jonestown]

On seeing her I was thinking, "All This Useless Beauty", to quote Elvis Costello.

Then I wondered if this was the same person

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If so, she's had something of a radical makeover.

[Jonestown]

I thought she was supposed to be an expert on punting, I watched it all the way through, but nowhere does she address the burning punting related issue of the day:


Do ginger girls' pussies taste different?

[southcoastpunter]

Once more we enter The Land of Sweeping Assertions by Fuckwits.

I had an affair for some years with a woman whose father abused her.

She told me she loved what her father did.
All these howls of rage  from people who presume to speak for everyone are folly.

your first ststement - yes, yet again! But your i am sure most abused ladies (or guys for that matter) would not say they "loved it". Most i have met (who talked about it) seem to be a bit "messed up" by it and that seems to be the impression TV news and programmes give!

[Colston36]

I imagine you are right.

[jonesfromthere]

I thought she was supposed to be an expert on punting, I watched it all the way through, but nowhere does she address the burning punting related issue of the day:


Do ginger girls' pussies taste different?

 

[versace]

Once more we enter The Land of Sweeping Assertions by Fuckwits.

I had an affair for some years with a woman whose father abused her.

She told me she loved what her father did. She was no fool: owner of a leading firm in its field and a happy bunny generally and sexually.

All these howls of rage  from people who presume to speak for everyone are folly.

As George Bernard Shaw remarked, "what men seek is not knowledge but certainty".

WTF, is this suppose to be a sick joke or something?

[Colston36]

WTF, is this suppose to be a sick joke or something?

On the contrary. It is a serious and true observation about a very close friend, unfortunately no longer with us, who did not conform to the normal picture of someone who had been molested by a parent. If you choose to imagine it is a joke, I can only quote the old adage: evil be to he who evil thinks.

[versace]

On the contrary. It is a serious and true observation about a very close friend, unfortunately no longer with us, who did not conform to the normal picture of someone who had been molested by a parent. If you choose to imagine it is a joke, I can only quote the old adage: evil be to he who evil thinks.

Obviously your friend was mentally damaged by the abuse, therefore she was in denial and trying to play down the affect of the abuse etc. No sane person would say something like that.

[pbrown355]

How do you know?

[Vice Admiral]

The person Colston wrote of was, he says, "a very old friend", with whom he had an affair for some years; and she was clearly an intelligent, successful and well-adjusted woman.

We should therefore accept that what she told him about her experiences when she was young was genuinely felt – and equally that Colston would have sensed if she was covering up trauma or putting on a brave face.

Life is not a matter of "one size fits all".  Yes, most people are likely to be traumatised by having sexual relations with someone much older and / or to whom they are related.  But that is not a universal rule.

[daviemac]

How do you know?

just ignore him, he's an idiot.

[contentguy]

She presents suppositions as theories throughout the interview.

No scientific or evidence basis at all to what she’s saying.
Terrible journalism, who is he?

I recall seeing him interview “Tanya Eden” a “tantric” provider I met at a business event, but can’t remember his name.

[versace]

How do you know?

Do you know anyone who loved being abused by her father? Only a sick person would say something like that. I can't even believe I'm having to have this discussion.

[versace]

just ignore him, he's an idiot.

So, let me get this straight. In your mind also there are women who loved being abused by their father when they were young? You are an idiot.

[daviemac]

Do you know anyone who loved being abused by her father? Only a sick person would say something like that. I can't even believe I'm having to have this discussion.

You, as usual are talking crap, you have no idea of how other people feel or what has gone on in their lives.

You are on very thin ice due to your previous posts, you are an abusive idiot full of your own imaginary importance.

[versace]

You, as usual are talking crap, you have no idea of how other people feel or what has gone on in their lives.

You are on very thin ice due to your previous posts, you are an abusive idiot full of your own imaginary importance.

That's just your opinion, interesting that you bring up imaginary importance, have you looked in the mirror recently?

[Strawberry]

The first few seconds when she started with the 'abuse as a child leads to sex work' was enough for me to see it's utter bollocks.

Every person who is abused as a child does not become a sex worker, and everyone who is a sex worker has not been abused as a child. Something similar is said about addiction, also trauma in general but that's a lengthy topic.

[Colston36]

So, let me get this straight. In your mind also there are women who loved being abused by their father when they were young? You are an idiot.

Insult is not argument. All I wrote was the simple truth: that I had a long relationship with one highly intelligent successful woman who told me she had enjoyed the experience. I did not say "there are women"; I said I knew one woman. That is a fact, just as it is a fact that you are not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, sad little idiot who thinks a gun is cool.

[speedygonzal]

thanks for sharing mate, Really enjoy that short video interview. Many trues been told there maybe some won't accept because of egocentrism. I Belived and hope not every SW is like that but maybe the majority are. not the abuse part though.

[PaulRuff]

thanks for sharing mate, Really enjoy that short video interview. Many trues been told there maybe some won't accept because of egocentrism. I Belived and hope not every SW is like that but maybe the majority are. not the abuse part though.

No worries, most interesting part for me was about how SS & SP are more likely than many think to get into each other beyond simple transactional sex - EAS definitely swings both ways.

[Stevelondon]

I thought I better at least watch it before I pass comment.
 Like Davie I had to stop when realising the two people were talking utter tripe.

[Jonestown]

Back in the dark old days, prior to the EE invasion, sociologists used to put out tripe that prostitutes, as they were then called, were all basically lesbians who naturally hated men, and this allowed them to perform the services required of them without psychological damage. These days I'd imagine any SP who displayed signs of hating men would not last long in the business. When home grown girls had next to no completion, say back in the 60/70/80's , it was not uncommon to encounter surly old bags, these days things are different, at least with the girls around where I punt. So the answer to the question in the title of the video, is no, SP's don't in the main hate their clients.

[vindici]

That's just your opinion, interesting that you bring up imaginary importance, have you looked in the mirror recently?

@Daviemac , that you can show such restraint while this plonker constantly mouths off is a testament to your patience 👏

Back on topic, I despair each time I see a new "analysis" of the sex industry, none of them seem to be interested in the truth, or presenting a neutral picture.

[daviemac]

@Daviemac , that you can show such restraint while this plonker constantly mouths off is a testament to your patience 👏

He won a free 60 day holiday from the site.   

[Hobbit]

I do study a lot of psychology and self-development stuff in my spare time and I came across this. Found it very interesting.

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[Doc Holliday]

Clip has been posted before https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=387698.msg3944822#msg3944822 

[Hobbit]

Sorry. I’m always late to the party

[Prince]

Interesting but like all psychology, of low scientific value.

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[Pillowtalk]

Interesting but like all psychology, of low scientific value.

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Discuss...

[daviemac]

Discuss...

Been discussed a few months ago.  https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=387698.msg3944822#msg3944822

[Prince]

Discuss...

Just my assertion that psychology on the whole is of low evidence base. Lots and lots of opinions and anecdotal evidence with poor quality studies.

Unlike chemistry and physics.

[Ivor Hunch]

if you read the SAAFE forums, clear that not all SPs hate all men.

[Lou2019]

Well I don't hate men, just dislike badly behaved disrespectful ones who can’t wash their dicks and arse properly 

[robbie54321]

For what it’s worth what I’ve noticed with escorts is they do not trust men. I’ve met some who say they hate men but I think they confuse hate with trust. On a side note most escorts I’ve know have very poor relationships to no relationships with their fathers. To be honest I’m yet to meet one who have many nice things to say about there Dads. Not saying they have been sexually abused at all but they don’t seem to have much time for their Dads. This also applies to girls I’ve seen on SA. Just something I’ve noticed over the years.

This doesn’t mean all escorts feel this way. Just the ones I’ve met who’ve spoken about it

[PaulRuff]

For what it’s worth what I’ve noticed with escorts is they do not trust men. I’ve met some who say they hate men but I think they confuse hate with trust. On a side note most escorts I’ve know have very poor relationships to no relationships with their fathers. To be honest I’m yet to meet one who have many nice things to say about there Dads. Not saying they have been sexually abused at all but they don’t seem to have much time for their Dads. This also applies to girls I’ve seen on SA. Just something I’ve noticed over the years.

This doesn’t mean all escorts feel this way. Just the ones I’ve met who’ve spoken about it

Daddy issues are a well known red flag when it comes to women.