What do they tell their families - During Lockdown

[willie loman]

Indeed because asking someone what they studied at school is masterful.

the question i ask is what was their favorite subject, as i  have pointed out, in england, a question can be a means of inviting someone to talk, strange having to explain this to an adult.

[LLPunting]

thats you back to form, indecipherable pretentious drivel , you are so up your own arse

I suspect if I asked some school-leavers what they understood from that short statement they'd hardly need a Junior OED to engage in some meaningful conversation about discretion, honesty, morality and propriety.

[willie loman]

I suspect if I asked some school-leavers what they understood from that short statement they'd hardly need a Junior OED to engage in some meaningful conversation about discretion, honesty, morality and propriety.

why dont you speak like a normal human being?

[LLPunting]

the question i ask is what was their favorite subject, as i  have pointed out, in england, a question can be a means of inviting someone to talk, strange having to explain this to an adult.

Of all the things you can ask an 18+ adult to talk about, given the majority of SPs (that most of us see) are well into or past their 20s.

[willie loman]

Of all the things you can ask an 18+ adult to talk about, given the majority of SPs (that most of us see) are well into or past their 20s.

it works for me, try it out, but keep the question simple,, when they reply, try and make an encouraging comment, i get the feeling  that you are borderline aspergers.

[LLPunting]

it works for me, try it out, but keep the question simple,, when they reply, try and make an encouraging comment, i get the feeling  that you are borderline aspergers.

We're all on the spectrum now, I suspect you're more to the right than I am.

[Bonker]

I avoid small talk, discourage conversation and don't enter into any talk about families.
Clean, firm boundaries is my motto.

[Doc Holliday]

Regardless it's not your business, and I'm sensing a very negative and derogatory vibe in the OP's post, especially with the random mention of kids growing up and looking at websites like AW. Like that's not even related, but he had to mention it for some reason.

I found that part of the post disturbing also. It had little relevance to the first part.

Cover stories can be a huge problem for some SPs and Covid may indeed have meant added issues for some, but as others have said it's none of our business.

Re conversations between punters and wgs this will cover a huge spectrum from almost none existent to 'hairdresser' small talk. It may be more detailed ... either one sided or reciprocal. It may be truthful or totally made up (with everything in between). It may develop with the regularity of meetings. It may not.

However there are some punters who are somewhat obsessed with the personal lives of who they meet. This is where I believe it becomes at best very unhealthy and the potential to  be much worse. This is not always related to EAS.

With this group it can develop further and they feel the need to pass this personal info on to other punters online. Sometimes publicly, but mostly by PM/DM. Networks can developing via the latter and they trade with others. "You tell me yours and I'll tell you mine".

To a lesser extent this type may also be interested in other punters who post online and they try to gain information about them too from SP's who they may have met. Most wgs will maintain confidentiality but some don't.

I'm not talking about huge numbers here, but to compensate for the lack of numbers, I have known some 'superspreaders' of personal information over the years. They become experts at compilation of snippets of info. Be warned .. "Loose lips sink ships" etc.

[RedKettle]

the question i ask is what was their favorite subject, as i  have pointed out, in england, a question can be a means of inviting someone to talk, strange having to explain this to an adult.

I get what you are saying and pretty much agree with you on using a polite question as a conversation aid - I just think in the context of fucking women for money referring back to their school days has an uncomfortable edge to it.  I tend to go for WGs where school was quite a way in the past but if I was shagging a 19 year old I am not sure I would want to make a point of the fact she was a school girl a few years before.

Not getting at you - this is probably my hang up!

[willie loman]

I get what you are saying and pretty much agree with you on using a polite question as a conversation aid - I just think in the context of fucking women for money referring back to their school days has an uncomfortable edge to it.  I tend to go for WGs where school was quite a way in the past but if I was shagging a 19 year old I am not sure I would want to make a point of the fact she was a school girl a few years before.

Not getting at you - this is probably my hang up!

i also ask what book they are reading, and where they last went to on holiday, but i usually go to the small group of service providers multiple times, i dont start with this the minute im in the door.

[cotton]

Main thing i ask is how old they are and if they live locally, then i give a little intro about myself which makes them understand and empathise with me and usually its like we cut from the same cloth and everything goes ok.

[LLPunting]

I found that part of the post disturbing also. It had little relevance to the first part.

Cover stories can be a huge problem for some SPs and Covid may indeed have meant added issues for some, but as others have said it's none of our business.

Re conversations between punters and wgs this will cover a huge spectrum from almost none existent to 'hairdresser' small talk. It may be more detailed ... either one sided or reciprocal. It may be truthful or totally made up (with everything in between). It may develop with the regularity of meetings. It may not.

However there are some punters who are somewhat obsessed with the personal lives of who they meet. This is where I believe it becomes at best very unhealthy and the potential to  be much worse. This is not always related to EAS.

With this group it can develop further and they feel the need to pass this personal info on to other punters online. Sometimes publicly, but mostly by PM/DM. Networks can developing via the latter and they trade with others. "You tell me yours and I'll tell you mine".

To a lesser extent this type may also be interested in other punters who post online and they try to gain information about them too from SP's who they may have met. Most wgs will maintain confidentiality but some don't.

I'm not talking about huge numbers here, but to compensate for the lack of numbers, I have known some 'superspreaders' of personal information over the years. They become experts at compilation of snippets of info. Be warned .. "Loose lips sink ships" etc.

Indeed, discretion protects you from more than a vengeant or mad SP.

[LLPunting]

Main thing i ask is how old they are and if they live locally, then i give a little intro about myself which makes them understand and empathise with me and usually its like we cut from the same cloth and everything goes ok.

Be wary of asking where they live, they have to feel safe from stalkers, etc.  And if they are wary they will lie to you anyway but perhaps still be on edge about you.

[Fuggedaboutit]

Indeed, discretion protects you from more than a vengeant or mad SP.

Ah, you see, I live dangerously and used to have a regular do outcall overnights...

[LLPunting]

Ah, you see, I live dangerously and used to have a regular do outcall overnights...

To your own home?

I too have the option just choose not to do it all that often.  Did do with some SAs and one or two off  CL and a parlour girl and Vivian, oh fuck! I did it quite a lot!  Then again I've moved home a number of times so current abode sacrosanct.

[Tecova]

I don't think asking a WG what their favourite subject at school was is terribly bad for banter.  I went to a Turkish barbers in the North West and half way through, he asked me if I was a virgin.  I didn't bother with a refund, just told him to stop and walked out with my hair half done.

[Fuggedaboutit]

To your own home?

I too have the option just choose not to do it all that often.  Did do with some SAs and one or two off  CL and a parlour girl and Vivian, oh fuck! I did it quite a lot!  Then again I've moved home a number of times so current abode sacrosanct.

Very particular regular (and as part of a duo on one occasion) who I’d been seeing for 4 years plus. Accept there’s always a risk, and wouldn’t do it with a complete newbie. It’s was just more convenient to do it that way. I’ve had civvies who’ve been unhinged, so I was willing to take the risk.

[LLPunting]

I don't think asking a WG what their favourite subject at school was is terribly bad for banter.  I went to a Turkish barbers in the North West and half way through, he asked me if I was a virgin.  I didn't bother with a refund, just told him to stop and walked out with my hair half done.

Do you think it was because your hair was so long you looked like a right Mary?

Of course he could've been sounding you out for a lady to pop your cherry. 

[LLPunting]

Very particular regular (and as part of a duo on one occasion) who I’d been seeing for 4 years plus. Accept there’s always a risk, and wouldn’t do it with a complete newbie. It’s was just more convenient to do it that way. I’ve had civvies who’ve been unhinged, so I was willing to take the risk.

If anything I find civvies more likely to be troubled, what with their "vulnerable state of mind" and #MxTyy it's just too much grief   

[funfungoodguy]

The thread was about - what do they tell their families.
As time passes, ie. if they work for several years as a sex worker, their friends and kids and families will grow and change, therefore they have to evolve the subterfuge - this will have been an interesting challenge when faced with lockdown and being told as we all were how to conduct our daily lives (i refer to the SPs who have worked on regardless)
If they started eight or so years ago, with small children those kids are now teenagers, some will now have their own transport and might even see their mum's car where they didn't expect..!!  ., and in the modern world quite savvy..  developing the ongoing lies becomes necessary, the odd hours out of the house, the occasional overnights -
Their friends must also surely wonder - and what about all the social things and so on that are woven into most people's lives.....
Like any veil of secrecy it will eventually run out of cover - won't it ?. However for a Punter one does it only occasionally, and can usually make sure the coast it clear.
and so on.....
 

[PaulRuff]

Why most SPs of a certain age have a lower age limit on who they'll see...worried about their kids mates turning up on their doorstep unexpected!

[cideruk]

The thread was about - what do they tell their families.
As time passes, ie. if they work for several years as a sex worker, their friends and kids and families will grow and change, therefore they have to evolve the subterfuge - this will have been an interesting challenge when faced with lockdown and being told as we all were how to conduct our daily lives (i refer to the SPs who have worked on regardless)
If they started eight or so years ago, with small children those kids are now teenagers, some will now have their own transport and might even see their mum's car where they didn't expect..!!  ., and in the modern world quite savvy..  developing the ongoing lies becomes necessary, the odd hours out of the house, the occasional overnights -
Their friends must also surely wonder - and what about all the social things and so on that are woven into most people's lives.....
Like any veil of secrecy it will eventually run out of cover - won't it ?. However for a Punter one does it only occasionally, and can usually make sure the coast it clear.
and so on.....

By in large most of the SPs I've seen their partners know

[Lou2019]

i dont just ask working girls that, its something people like talking about, as ive mentioned before some of us are curious about our fellow humans, though not it seems yourself,, rude arse that you are.

yes ask fellow humans maybe such as work colleagues for example, asking a WG anything personal is just creepy and inappropriate. There’s nothing that makes me a rude arse about my comment.

[Doc Holliday]

By in large most of the SPs I've seen their partners know

This was the point I touched on before about obtaining personal information.

Out of many hundreds I have seen, only a very small number have ever said anything about their relationship status, ie that they actually had a partner, let alone if he/she knew what she did?

Perhaps I'm not inquisitive enough?

[cideruk]

This was the point I touched on before about obtaining personal information.

Out of many hundreds I have seen, only a very small number have ever said anything about their relationship status, ie that they actually had a partner, let alone if he/she knew what she did?

Perhaps I'm not inquisitive enough?

Many have volunteered that info, I don't pry as I don't want them to pry into my circumstances either. But sometimes it just comes out.

If they ask how many escorts I see for example.

Then there's physical clues too, such as family photos, wedding/engagement rings, name tattoos

[Doc Holliday]

Many have volunteered that info, I don't pry as I don't want them to pry into my circumstances either. But sometimes it just comes out.

Yes sometimes it might and it has with me also, but you said this

By in large most of the SPs I've seen their partners know

Then there's physical clues too, such as family photos, wedding/engagement rings, name tattoos

I can honestly say I have never seen any family photos, but that aside how would you know that the above physical clues meant (a) they had a current partner and (b) that they knew what their job was?

[funfungoodguy]

i wouldn't go asking but i have found some will chatter about their personal stuff.
i appreciate of course that some might 'plant' certain things, knowing it may assist in identifying a punter who then mentions that girl on a forum.
I am also aware some will mention a cautionary tale about  a punter they maybe had a bad experience with and the way they dealt with it - again made up - but as a discreet way send a message.

[cideruk]

Yes sometimes it might and it has with me also, but you said this

I can honestly say I have never seen any family photos, but that aside how would you know that the above physical clues meant (a) they had a current partner and (b) that they knew what their job was?

Because they tell me
I tend to see them at their homes, I don't do parlours.

Be a bit hard to have even 1 punt a day coming to their homes without their partners knowing.

[daviemac]

I have to say looking at your post history you seem more familiar with the forum than one would expect from your 4 weeks of membership. You do remind me of someone, though I'm not sure who, yet.

I am now.   

[willie loman]

yes ask fellow humans maybe such as work colleagues for example, asking a WG anything personal is just creepy and inappropriate. There’s nothing that makes me a rude arse about my comment.

you really are an arse.

[Lou2019]

you really are an arse.

 

[willie loman]

i have the same chat with wgs as i have with my hairdresser, inappropriate my arse.

[Lou2019]

i have the same chat with wgs as i have with my hairdresser, inappropriate my arse.

you’re sounding like Jim Royale with all this my arse lark 

[Palomaxxxxxx]

It amazes me how some must have developed ways to lie to their friends and children for several years, and work out a whole secret life

It amazes me how some punters have developed ways to lie to their partners whilst out seeing prostitutes, and work out a whole secret life with a punting phone, paying for pussy...

Or maybe I’m not amazed. Maybe I mind my business and pass no judgement

[LLPunting]

Many have volunteered that info, I don't pry as I don't want them to pry into my circumstances either. But sometimes it just comes out.

If they ask how many escorts I see for example.

Then there's physical clues too, such as family photos, wedding/engagement rings, name tattoos

Of course, repeatedly asking them to marry you because your partner just doesn't get you sexually is bound to ellicit some frustrated "admissions" to already being taken.

[LLPunting]

i have the same chat with wgs as i have with my hairdresser, inappropriate my arse.

What does your hairdresser say when you tell them to stop gabbling and start gobbling your cock?  That being the line that pillow talk convos with SPs often go, the second most likely progression being "enough nattering time to give your puss a battering".

[willie loman]

It amazes me how some punters have developed ways to lie to their partners whilst out seeing prostitutes, and work out a whole secret life with a punting phone, paying for pussy...

Or maybe I’m not amazed. Maybe I mind my business and pass no judgement

is anyone passing judgement?nothing wrong with curiosity, a punter has to go off radar for a couple of hours once a week, if that, a wg has to establish a whole new cover story,her time, her money etc,  i am not lying to anyone, if i saw a female relative, etc when i left a sauna, i would feel mild discomfort, but nothing else. do you want the site to be just about who gives the best blow job in manchester?

[LLPunting]

Because they tell me
I tend to see them at their homes, I don't do parlours.

Be a bit hard to have even 1 punt a day coming to their homes without their partners knowing.

Gotta love Northern Brass, there's a matter of factness about them that makes the money-grubbers in the cities seem very tart.

[willie loman]

What does your hairdresser say when you tell them to stop gabbling and start gobbling your cock?  That being the line that pillow talk convos with SPs often go, the second most likely progression being "enough nattering time to give your puss a battering".

my hairdresser is a man, he has an unusual hobby of training gun dogs, i was his fathers customer before he died, to be honest in the hairdressers i like listening to the conversation in the next chair, there have been a few documentaries about conversations in barbers. anyone who has any unusual encounters with female barbers feel free to post.

[LLPunting]

my hairdresser is a man, he has an unusual hobby of training gun dogs, i was his fathers customer before he died, to be honest in the hairdressers i like listening to the conversation in the next chair, there have been a few documentaries about conversations in barbers. anyone who has any unusual encounters with female barbers feel free to post.

I was talking to a project manager a little while back, semi-retired  and importing bees, looking to make a small fortune.  Random conversations eh.

[willie loman]

I was talking to a project manager a little while back, semi-retired  and importing bees, looking to make a small fortune.  Random conversations eh.

suggest you google theodore zeldin, if you dont already know who he is.

[cideruk]

Of course, repeatedly asking them to marry you because your partner just doesn't get you sexually is bound to ellicit some frustrated "admissions" to already being taken.

Eh?

Gotta love Northern Brass, there's a matter of factness about them that makes the money-grubbers in the cities seem very tart.

Well yes we do talk to each other oop North

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[Rochelle]

This was the point I touched on before about obtaining personal information.

Out of many hundreds I have seen, only a very small number have ever said anything about their relationship status, ie that they actually had a partner, let alone if he/she knew what she did?

Perhaps I'm not inquisitive enough?

I've found that it often comes up. I've been asked many times about my relationship status. I'm not bothered about being asked any question. If there's one I don't want to answer, I'll simply say so.

[Lou2019]

I've found that it often comes up. I've been asked many times about my relationship status. I'm not bothered about being asked any question. If there's one I don't want to answer, I'll simply say so.

I tend to say I’m single if asked, as soon as you say you have a partner it then turns into how does he’s feel about you doing this etc etc yawn yawn.

[cideruk]

I tend to say I’m single if asked, as soon as you say you have a partner it then turns into how does he’s feel about you doing this etc etc yawn yawn.

How does he feel about it? 

[Lou2019]

How does he feel about it? 

you joker   

[RedKettle]

I tend to say I’m single if asked, as soon as you say you have a partner it then turns into how does he’s feel about you doing this etc etc yawn yawn.

Interesting to turn that around - if a WG asked if I was married and then asked how does she feel about me shagging other women for cash it would certainly kill the mood!

One of my very first punts I had to pick the WG up in my car and drive to the location she used (not something I would do now) and I was incredibly nervous to say the least.  Just as we are driving off she looks at my wedding ring and says "I assume your wife knows you are doing this"  (or something like that, it was a long time ago) and I nearly had a heart attack.  It was her idea of a joke to break the ice 

[cideruk]

I've been asked re wife, just tell the truth

I don't get some things at home and in my mind think it's preferable to an affair

[alabama1]

Interesting to turn that around - if a WG asked if I was married and then asked how does she feel about me shagging other women for cash it would certainly kill the mood!

One of my very first punts I had to pick the WG up in my car and drive to the location she used (not something I would do now) and I was incredibly nervous to say the least.  Just as we are driving off she looks at my wedding ring and says "I assume your wife knows you are doing this"  (or something like that, it was a long time ago) and I nearly had a heart attack.  It was her idea of a joke to break the ice 

That's a strange question. Shouldn't it be " i assume your wife doesn't know you are doing this "

[RedKettle]

That's a strange question. Shouldn't it be " i assume your wife doesn't know you are doing this "

I think that was the point of the "joke" - not that I found it funny!

Mind you I had a number of great sessions with her over the following few years.