The "get to know you" chat

[scutty brown]

If you're going to take chocolate take a Mars Bar and eat it yourself a la Marianne Faithful

[Marmalade]

They hardly ever eat the chocolate. And sometimes take a short time to put the fruits in the fridge and sometimes offer to share it after the main course. (Small fruits like berries or cherries, never oranges). Either are god for breaking the cie and getting a first kiss.

Quite a realistic suggestion I suppose. The berries n stuff. Certainly not ridiculous like errrm mangos.

[fairfield]

I'm a shy guy, and by my body language prossies detect this very quickly, so usually I get this 70% of the time(near exclusively from English Escorts). Sometimes they get nothing out of me so just get on with it. But usually its a 5 - 10 min convo, with me mostly listening as is the case in real life. I do enjoy chatting though, so it doesn't bother me too much. I think the worse I had was actually one of my early punts, she kept going on and on, talking about her job, her travels, what she wants to do in the future, commenting on my long curly hair(sorta got a jewfro, kinda like the Irish bloke off misfits) etc. I think it was over 30 mins. It was interesting, but I was eager to get going.

Spot on, Aj - if you dont mind me saying so. But with me dont think its a 'shyness' issue - more of a 'class' thing. Yes - please dont laugh - but i get distinct impression these english pro$$ies who drone on about how wonderful they/their life is, are only doing it to assert their 'superiority' over me.
The 'chat' mostly revolves around the theme - if i didnt have to maintain such a great lifestyle, i wouldnt be seen dead putting it out for you.

Ofc i am a fat thick old scouser (little chance of hiding that), so they dont need to read body language to detect me.
Only yesterday a fellow punter on here reminded me of my worst chat - a full 25 minute ordeal in 2016. You should get a medal for lasting a whole 30 minutes.

[fairfield]

They hardly ever eat the chocolate. And sometimes take a short time to put the fruits in the fridge and sometimes offer to share it after the main course. (Small fruits like berries or cherries, never oranges). Either are god for breaking the cie and getting a first kiss.

HP, - apologies for possibly coming over as facetious - but i honestly would have felt a lot better after many of my punts, if i'd been able to pelt the wretched wg with rotten tomatoes. Not as form of pre-arranged sploshing service - but just a natural reaction to a bad time.
Its the only 'fruit' i dream of taking to a punt.

[Ali Katt]

Spot on, Aj - if you dont mind me saying so. But with me dont think its a 'shyness' issue - more of a 'class' thing. Yes - please dont laugh - but i get distinct impression these english pro$$ies who drone on about how wonderful they/their life is, are only doing it to assert their 'superiority' over me.
The 'chat' mostly revolves around the theme - if i didnt have to maintain such a great lifestyle, i wouldnt be seen dead putting it out for you.

Ofc i am a fat thick old scouser (little chance of hiding that), so they dont need to read body language to detect me.
Only yesterday a fellow punter on here reminded me of my worst chat - a full 25 minute ordeal in 2016. You should get a medal for lasting a whole 30 minutes.

I've not seen the escorts you've seen, but I do think it comes from a place of insecurity. Basically filling their lives with meaningless items and lifestyle choices such as spending £70 on a bottle of Ciroc in a club is masking some deeper feeling of self-loathing.

[Marmalade]

I've not seen the escorts you've seen, but I do think it comes from a place of insecurity. Basically filling their lives with meaningless items and lifestyle choices such as spending £70 on a bottle of Ciroc in a club is masking some deeper feeling of self-loathing.

True, though a lot of successful sales people are the same.

The prossie however goes through “I’m reduced to selling my body, a common prostitute” before talking herself into inclusivity. A bit like fat people insisting it’s normal and then progressing to the being able to spend money on such stuff. I suppose fat prostitutes at least have experience at bullshitting themselves. 

[Ali Katt]

True, though a lot of successful sales people are the same.

Yep. I was aiming it at all sorts of people. I've seen it with a guy I vaguely know, but don't like who boasts about his BMW, but isn't successful in any aspect of his life; IMHO if you are drinking and smoking weed everyday you are probably trying to escape from something.

[tantric talents]

IMHO if you are drinking and smoking weed everyday you are probably trying to escape from something.

In my brother-in-law’s case I think I know who it is 
So wish I could introduce him to punting and UKP however my sister would kill me if she ever found out!

[TailSeeker]

I've only ever done a chat before when the punter has asked for it (wasted nearly an hour chatting), or insinuates that they would like it, very occasionally I've insisted on it for a punter who won't talk over the phone. Nevet take it put of their time. But I do bdsm mostly, so a chat is pretty important.

If they're insisting on it and taking it out of your time, call them on it, review here and label them for it. Most services can be agreed via text or a phone call. Bdsm can be a bit fuzzy, but at most that's 10 minutes, and shouldn't be taken out of your time.

The only exception I would say is if one of us WGs is good to go, and a punter insists on waffling on for an age. Then quite frankly the clock is ticking.

[revoltra]

The most extreme "chat" i had was with an escort in Budapest. She was quite an unique escort, definitely not met anyone like that.

I found her details from another message board. Might have been ISG. Took maybe three or four emails between me and her and then two phone calls when I arrived to Budapest just to arranged a booking. Also, she didn't give me an address. Instead, she booked a taxi (!!) to pick me up. Hell, no idea why I even had the courage to follow through. But the reviews on ISG (or where ever I read them from) all seem to described this, so I thought yeah what the hell.

Her apartment is in a rather old/run down/character apartment complex. And the flat itself.... holy fuck was it fancy. It looked like she is a successful banker rather than escort. Or I should say the kind of flat you will see an escort will use in a movie rather than reality. It was well decorated and has seperate bedroom for sex, one for massage, bathrooms (plural) etc etc. And the service was fantastic. I booked and paid her for an hour, but I was there for almost three. We spent almost an hour talking, an hour pampering (bath, shower, massage) and then an hour of vigorous sex.

Yes, not a typo. It was an hour of talking. Wasn't over wine or food (she did offered me a glass, to be fair), it was more like... being interview by a new boss, or potential mother-in-law. talked about my job, my hobby, my interest and knowledge in art, ethical view on various matter, and my general philosophy in life. I don't know if the chat was meant to be relaxing or nerve wrecking. I was experiencing both to be fair. The only thing that kept me there was that a) she was a looker, and did a good job at teasing me throughout conversation b) she was actually a good conversationist, not just a chatter box c) I have nothing else to do and probably would have welcome such conversation anywhere d) I seriously wanted to fuck her by then. No idea what would happen if I am a dullard or if she disagree with anything I said or if we had a serious argument over whatever.

Think her name was Abbey or something. Would love to see her again. Don't think she works anymore though. Pity.

[LAUREN SPENCER]

A quick chat can help the lady to feel less nervous, relax and let go; and if she's a decent woman, she will still give you the full "fun time".

[fairfield]

A quick chat can help the lady to feel less nervous, relax and let go; and if she's a decent woman, she will still give you the full "fun time".

Maybe its an age thing - but wtf would a wg 45+ years younger have in common with me? Hearing a wg lamely try to justify getting on her back for a grumpy old git like me only raises the tension in the room and the likelihood of a bad punt.

[LAUREN SPENCER]

No need for her to justify her actions "Fairfield"; money IS justification.....

The lady may just want to feel a moment of "friendship" with you. To find a reason to like you, so that she (and hopefully you as well) enjoy your time together. It's robotic/soulless for her if she doesn't even get a smile or a hug from you at any point.

[Marmalade]

No need for her to justify her actions "Fairfield"; money IS justification.....

The lady may just want to feel a moment of "friendship" with you. To find a reason to like you, so that she (and hopefully you as well) enjoy your time together. It's robotic/soulless for her if she doesn't even get a smile or a hug from you at any point.

In other words, the customer should not only pay her extortionate amounts for her services but make it easier for her to do her job. 

I always give a smile. I once gave a regular a small present of a bar of chocolate. She threw it across the room and said if I wanted to give her presents, give her jewelry or perfume! What a slapper. But she was as cheap as tap water, relatively pretty even if she lived in a slum, and a good shag.
But one doesn't tip the bus conductor fifty quid.
In fact you don't tip the bus conductor, a service provider, anything at all.

I just looked at her, said "Yeah right!" 
then gave her the fiver for the shag and provided my own condom. Sex cost a reasonable price in those days.

[tantric talents]

I once gave a regular a small present of a bar of chocolate. She threw it across the room

She obviously didn’t appreciate the effort you put into bringing it?

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[Marmalade]

She obviously didn’t appreciate the effort you put into bringing it?

 

Yes. ungrateful cow.

It was a very small bar but it took up room in my pocket that I could have used for a bag of nuts to go with my beer.

Fortunately her tantrum only lasted 20 seconds and then she did her polite GFE smile and got her filthy knickers off.

[tantric talents]

but it took up room in my pocket that I could have used for a bag of nuts

Reminds me of a joke a Jewish friend told me many years ago.
I'll paraphrase to save time.


Taylor Hymie to son Abraham before his birthday.

My boy,  what sort of present would you like?

Well father, I would like something nice to wear and perhaps something to play with?

Abraham duly receives a nice pair of trousers with the pockets cut out........

[fairfield]

....I once gave a regular a small present of a bar of chocolate. She threw it across the room and said if I wanted to give her presents, give her jewelry or perfume!....

Racked my brains for any present which i brought to the 'party' - but could only think of the time i generously offered a wg one of my wet-wipes. (they're part of my punting kit, hate it when all a prossie gives you is dry pieces of bog roll.)
She refused (god knows what she thought was in them?), so not offered any since.

[workinallweek]

The get to know you chat ......

Guess it depends on your view of a meeting ,is it just a sack emptying exercise or do you want something more ?

Well if they had all had a chat like this i can think of at least a few visits that wouldnt have happened , but only if the chat was face to face .

A recent telephone chat became a non event and saved me some cash

However a face to face meet (not on my time) has resulted in seeing someone who i may well not have seen or risked seeing and have arranged to see for a second time .

[Ali Katt]

The get to know you chat ......

Guess it depends on your view of a meeting ,is it just a sack emptying exercise or do you want something more ?

Well if they had all had a chat like this i can think of at least a few visits that wouldnt have happened , but only if the chat was face to face .

A recent telephone chat became a non event and saved me some cash

However a face to face meet (not on my time) has resulted in seeing someone who i may well not have seen or risked seeing and have arranged to see for a second time .

That's interesting I mentioned in a review if the girl had a "smoker's voice" or sounded aggressive I would have seen someone else, luckily she was delightful.

[fallentrees1321]

I was very confused the first time a girl insisted we have a "chat" and a drink before moving to the bedroom.
I just wanted to get on with it and questions such as "what do you like?" I mean wasn't that in the email?
What do other people think?
I used to see it as a cynical time wasting tactic but now I enjoy it as part of the "Girlfriend experience"

Say what
I tell them what to wear over the phone / in email before agreeding a booking and if I want anything that is an extra like anal

then when I get there all I expect to be asked is if I am looking for anything in particular whilst being undressed . Generally for me its a lot of oral before initial penetration .

non of this chat or drink nonsense . We aint friends , this aint a date . if I wanted anything in particular I would have definitely mentioned it beforehand

[Marmalade]

The thing is if you leave it to the prossie it becomes as long as a piece of string. Eventually she opens her legs to save getting a bad review.

Instead, control the situation. Attitude, polite, friendly, fun. Tick boxes as you go along. Get a smile, get a response, establish rapport. Choreograph. Lead the action. She’s easier to lead if you establish rapport in the first minute (all it takes).

There’s a few (very few!) prossies that are very good at reading the customer and ‘providing the experience he dreams of’. Some of the early Lady M girls could do it. But mostly they either try a set routine or screw up. It improves the chances of a good punt to take control. She might even be relieved. And if she shows creative genius there’s always the chance to lie back and let her show off!

[fairfield]

The thing is if you leave it to the prossie it becomes as long as a piece of string. Eventually she opens her legs to save getting a bad review.

Instead, control the situation. Attitude, polite, friendly, fun. Tick boxes as you go along. Get a smile, get a response, establish rapport. Choreograph. Lead the action. She’s easier to lead if you establish rapport in the first minute (all it takes). ..

I hear what you're saying, but sadly if i was more 'masterful' with women - then i prolly wouldnt have to punt and certainly wouldnt have gone into a disasterful marriage.
In the "first minute" all i usually see is fleeting dismay in the pro$$ies face - a sort of 'am i really reduced to putting out for this old codger?' Foreign wgs nearly always just grimace and bear it, but 9 times out of 10 a home grown wg always launches into some ridiculous justification prior to dropping their knickers.
I've heard i'm only punting with you because :
           - as the singer in my b/fs band, i have to raise £'s to cut a disc
           - 'tarquins' school fees are so expensive
           - 'jeminas horse needs a new stable
           - my brother needs a new car for work
           - my brother needs to go into rehab
           - my lifestyle is way above yours and so expensive
           - i am addicted to young cock (barking up the wrong tree with me)
           - it costs a lot to become a deep sea diver/qualify as an accountant/ etc

I have forgotten the rest and dont want to seem harsh - but i never wanted to know any of these excuses in the first place. True or not, for me they only detract from the action ahead.

Until this topic - i didnt realize how much i detest the initial chat. 
 

[rg41]

milf mrs robinson talks a lot before sex

[Ali Katt]

milf mrs robinson talks a lot before sex

She's been on and off my hotlist. I only took her off as one review put me off.

[marcello]

In the "first minute" all i usually see is fleeting dismay in the pro$$ies face - a sort of 'am i really reduced to putting out for this old codger?' Foreign wgs nearly always just grimace and bear it, but 9 times out of 10 a home grown wg always launches into some ridiculous justification prior to dropping their knickers.
I've heard i'm only punting with you because :
           - as the singer in my b/fs band, i have to raise £'s to cut a disc
           - 'tarquins' school fees are so expensive
           - 'jeminas horse needs a new stable
           - my brother needs a new car for work
           - my brother needs to go into rehab
           - my lifestyle is way above yours and so expensive
           - i am addicted to young cock (barking up the wrong tree with me)
           - it costs a lot to become a deep sea diver/qualify as an accountant/ etc

I have forgotten the rest and dont want to seem harsh - but i never wanted to know any of these excuses in the first place.

That's what really sickens me. You are a WG, you're criminal or whatever you are...just own it instead of blaming others, justify yourself with others, etc.

[Ali Katt]

I hear what you're saying, but sadly if i was more 'masterful' with women - then i prolly wouldnt have to punt and certainly wouldnt have gone into a disasterful marriage.
In the "first minute" all i usually see is fleeting dismay in the pro$$ies face - a sort of 'am i really reduced to putting out for this old codger?' Foreign wgs nearly always just grimace and bear it, but 9 times out of 10 a home grown wg always launches into some ridiculous justification prior to dropping their knickers.
I've heard i'm only punting with you because :
           - as the singer in my b/fs band, i have to raise £'s to cut a disc
           - 'tarquins' school fees are so expensive
           - 'jeminas horse needs a new stable
           - my brother needs a new car for work
           - my brother needs to go into rehab
           - my lifestyle is way above yours and so expensive
           - i am addicted to young cock (barking up the wrong tree with me)
           - it costs a lot to become a deep sea diver/qualify as an accountant/ etc

I have forgotten the rest and dont want to seem harsh - but i never wanted to know any of these excuses in the first place. True or not, for me they only detract from the action ahead.

Until this topic - i didnt realize how much i detest the initial chat.

Only had this a few times. One girl said she spends £150 each weekend on nights our, another saving for a holiday, another paying off a house. Who cares?

[workinallweek]

So if a visit involves a shopping trip and lunch before the event (and not paid for by the punter time or gift wise) Is the punter wrong to go along ?

[fairfield]

So if a visit involves a shopping trip and lunch before the event (and not paid for by the punter time or gift wise) Is the punter wrong to go along ?

Whatever floats your boat. But that really is some extended 'getting to know you' chat. I am afraid it would turn me right off though - too much like all that brain dead shopping with my ex.

[fairfield]

Only had this a few times. One girl said she spends £150 each weekend on nights our, another saving for a holiday, another paying off a house. Who cares?

Exactly. i already know that i'm there because of my (meagre) wallet. I dont care, and dont care to know either, the reasons why the wg is a pro$$ie or what she needs the £'s for.
If they just left blurting out their self-justifications until after the punt - it would be bad enough, but bearable. But loading their 'predicament' on me before the action starts nearly always sets a jarring note. (Maybe bcs i am punting mostly with wgs 40+ years my junior, i am already too 'sensitive' to any extra hint that i am taking advantage?)   

[Ali Katt]

Exactly. i already know that i'm there because of my (meagre) wallet. I dont care, and dont care to know either, the reasons why the wg is a pro$$ie or what she needs the £'s for.
If they just left blurting out their self-justifications until after the punt - it would be bad enough, but bearable. But loading their 'predicament' on me before the action starts nearly always sets a jarring note. (Maybe bcs i am punting mostly with wgs 40+ years my junior, i am already too 'sensitive' to any extra hint that i am taking advantage?)

An honest response in a thread that has descended into egotistical bullshit. Fair play sir.

[workinallweek]

Exactly. i already know that i'm there because of my (meagre) wallet. I dont care, and dont care to know either, the reasons why the wg is a pro$$ie or what she needs the £'s for.
If they just left blurting out their self-justifications until after the punt - it would be bad enough, but bearable. But loading their 'predicament' on me before the action starts nearly always sets a jarring note. (Maybe bcs i am punting mostly with wgs 40+ years my junior, i am already too 'sensitive' to any extra hint that i am taking advantage?)

Depends on the shops though doesn't it