Means, motive and opportunity

[B4bcock]

Means, motive and opportunity have long been considered essential elements for a criminal act.  Although punting is not a crime, it is still an act which most of us need to carry out undetected and these three things are very pertinent.

Means - having the money to pay for your punts.
Motive - having a reason/desire to punt.
Opportunity - being able to 'disappear' for the duration of the punt without detection.

For me, at present, means and motive aren't a great problem.  I have enough spare money to punt around 4 to 6 times per month  (although I could always do with more, of course!)  The motive is fairly constant due to getting very little sex with the OH.  The main variant being how strong my urge is for a punt and often a wank will do.  Getting the opportunity is usually the most limiting and frustrating factor.  There are plenty of times when I'm horny for a punt but can't get away and others where the opportunity is right there but the cash and/or desire aren't.

I guess the ideal situation for a punter is to be a wealthy, retired singleton who is able to punt as the desire takes him.  The rest of us face being constrained in varying degrees by the above factors.

[niceguy30!!]

Opportunity is most definitely the limiting factor for me.

[Southernbloke]

Opportunity is always a problem for me due to work and the OH . To be honest though if I had more opportunity I would probably punt more than is good for me and would get myself into debt and other problems

[RandomGuy99]

Lack of motivation and opportunity mean I do fewer bookings these days. I used to do 3 or 4 a week, which to he honest was over doing it, but it was fun for a while.

[kebab_1414]

Post Covid a lack of choice I would say is a big one. The size 6  early 20 year olds just aren’t there anymore.

[whiskeygogo]

 I was initially going to agree with lack of choice alike the above poster, as it's very difficult to find my type. But I realised the girls I am looking for are there, but just on seeking, which I can't really afford and also don't have the opportunity to stay away overnight.

[threechilliman]

Opportunity is most definitely the limiting factor for me.

T'was always the limiting factor for me.

[Adoniron]

Means and opportunity are not a problem but I struggle to get motivated nowadays. I've turned down plenty of opportunities lately.

[kebab_1414]

I was initially going to agree with lack of choice alike the above poster, as it's very difficult to find my type. But I realised the girls I am looking for are there, but just on seeking, which I can't really afford and also don't have the opportunity to stay away overnight.

But using seeking would involve setting a profile with photos? I’d say many of us that punt would find that a no-go. In Manchester pre 2020 you could find those girls on AW or Secrets easily any day of the week.

[mj]

Agree that opportunity is the main limiting factor.  Not helped by the lack of options that are my type within the local area - means that I need an even bigger window of opportunity to allow for extra travel.

That said, there do seem to be quite a few new profiles appearing on AW recently.

[Stevelondon]

Motive is easy. We punters simply enjoy sex in all its variations. So that’s why we do it.

As far as means go. Well we are all going to have different means. It’s been discussed on here before and a bit like gambling. If your not getting into debt doing it….. then no harm done 

I recall getting asked by someone else about opportunity. How it must pose a problem to some more than others.
I had more opportunity when I was working to be honest. Mainly because I wasn’t in a 9-5 job and travelled too.

I guess age comes into things too and the fact we possibly change our mindsets as well as our physically.
Yonks back I did spend more on punts. By that I mean the hourly fee. Mostly abroad.
Nowadays I seem to have a problem forking out more than £200 a pop and I have no idea why to be honest. My means has not changed since I stopped working.
I suspect I’ve just grown even more tighter as I’ve got older 

[simon07]

Means
Motive
Opportunity

And the limiting factor is a woman who is the right age, right size and right temperament to offer a worthwhile memorable punt. Im time all punts fade to grey except the ones where it was truly wonderful.

Is it true, less is more?

[Cheltclient]

My punting behaviours have changed. Going back years ago, money was far tighter but I would book loads of girls, even when I was using money almost before I saved it. Was also more difficult to get away but I managed it. Had lots of fun, always a different girl and of course some duds.

These days, far easier to get away. Def have more money to embrace the hobby. But punt far less, to rye extent I’ve often considered giving up (haven’t quite got there yet). Age is a factor. Haven’t lost my sex drive but not as horny as I once was. Lack of options is another. Higher prices is also impactful. Don’t think it helps that when I do fancy a booking, log onto AW and most days there’s not one profile I’m keen on. I suspect that if that changes and we go back to the old days of here AW for 5 or 6 options I fancy, I’ll go a bit more prolific again

[cunningman]

Lack of motivation and opportunity mean I do fewer bookings these days. I used to do 3 or 4 a week, which to he honest was over doing it, but it was fun for a while.

Christ, that was a lot of spend.

In hindsight, was it really good value?

I met an SB recently.  She was down.  She can go bloody far down when she's down.
I booked a (cheap) hotel but she wasn't in a state to do funtime. So I said 'do friend time if you want'.

We went for a walk in a park.

Offered to take her home, she wanted to stay out, in the 'I'm good away from home' zone.  And home is back in the pit.

I took her home, and gave her the same money I would have given her for bonkers sex.  Which she normally delivers.

3 hours of clothes on dozing wrapped around each other.  I started thinking 'I owe her this'.  And at the end, I felt I got the better deal.

Why? Because holding and being held like that, with no sex agenda, was wonderful.

I am seriously questioning what I want - and it seems that emotions, and being a friend, are more fulfilling than walking away with empty balls.

[cunningman]

Christ, that was a lot of spend.

In hindsight, was it really good value?

I met an SB recently.  She was down.  She can go bloody far down when she's down.
I booked a (cheap) hotel but she wasn't in a state to do funtime. So I said 'do friend time if you want'.

We went for a walk in a park.

Offered to take her home, she wanted to stay out, in the 'I'm good away from home' zone.  And home is back in the pit.

later ...

I took her home, and gave her the same money I would have given her for bonkers sex.  Which she normally delivers.

3 hours of clothes on dozing wrapped around each other.  I started thinking 'I owe her this'.  And at the end, I felt I got the better deal.

Why? Because holding and being held like that, with no sex agenda, was wonderful.

I am seriously questioning what I want - and it seems that emotions, and being a friend, are more fulfilling than walking away with empty balls.

[RandomGuy99]

Christ, that was a lot of spend.

In hindsight, was it really good value?

Yes, I thought it was good value. I got to meet some very attractive women who are in a different league to me.

Now, I just can't be arsed.

[Southernbloke]

After being let down last weekend, I have seriously lost my motivation to punt . I have an opportunity to punt this afternoon but I’m not sure if I can be bothered.

[limarasa9]

Getting the opportunity is usually the most limiting and frustrating factor.  There are plenty of times when I'm horny for a punt but can't get away

^ This sums up my situation. With the kids Easter holidays starting from tomorrow and both me & the OH WFH during this time, my punting doors are well and truly shut for the next few weeks   

[Roman77]

I think all 3 could apply at the moment. Money is tight so means are limited. Motivation is low due to means and I find it hard to jusify spending the cash with no guarantee of a good time. Opportunity changes weekly hence it becomes a chain reaction.

If I had to put it down to one it would be motivation because when I have spare cash there are other necessities need taken care of first before thinking of a punt.

[chatman]

Was also think about this recently ....

I'm very lucky and usually have enough means, being able to put away a regular amount into a separate budget account for a rainy day
- I mean my 'hobby'.  This usually allows me at least a weekly meet.

Motive is always up and down, when I have had a few good meets, I'm on that high and looking for the next meet asap.
But when I have had a few poor meets, I question why am I doing this and why am I not sticking to my good regulars! 

As for the opportunity, with both me and my OH now WFH most days, this could be a problem, if I didn't go to the 'gym' so much!
I even pay a monthly gym membership, that the OH sees. Then when I say, I'm off to the gym, there is no issue.
I still get my exercise  and the membership fee is the best money spent. These days this is less than a 1/2hr meet! 

So an hour or even longer at the gym is never questioned.
and I believe the gym is cheaper than playing golf, with the added benefit that if the weather is poor, I'm still believed.
I come back sweaty and have an excuse for needing a shower too!

[Rockhead]

Motive is always up and down, when I have had a few good meets, I'm on that high and looking for the next meet asap.
But when I have had a few poor meets, I question why am I doing this and why am I not sticking to my good regulars! 

Totally agree on this point!

Aside from that, I am fortunate. I live alone and have the means - albeit for a few meets per month rather than weekly. That being said, I've had a lot of 'time off' due to other things I won't bore this forum with, but looking forward to getting back into it next month.

[Razor Boy]

The opportunity and SP availability dovetailing is the big unknown for me.
I have this Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning til 1-30pm with free hidden time as the OH is working. Nothing great available in my area and £200 to burn in my pocket.
Unless somebody good jumps out I'll watch the Man Citeh game and then the glorious Arsenal at 3pm and save my punting dosh

[kebab_1414]

The opportunity and SP availability dovetailing is the big unknown for me.
I have this Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning til 1-30pm with free hidden time as the OH is working. Nothing great available in my area and £200 to burn in my pocket.
Unless somebody good jumps out I'll watch the Man Citeh game and then the glorious Arsenal at 3pm and save my punting dosh

This is it for me. Following nearly 2 years of not punting due to lockdowns and other factors, I’ve got use to either saving the cash or spending it on something more tangible, so a even after a good punt I’m more than likely to get buyers remorse.

[Tender.french.kiss]

opportunity

there's more than one meaning to opportunity.
Obviously being able to sneak out safely is one. But finding one WG who tickles your fancy can also be another. Several time I know I will a window of opportunity on such and such a date, and despite anticipating a bit, getting through to a girl who is free seems like an impossible task 

[willie loman]

i have enough mon ey, and dont have to account to anyone, but realistically i am only up for 2 punts a week,due to age, am 66, as i prefer an orgasm to have a bite to it, i would advise anyone to punt as much as they can while able.

[pantywetter]

Motive is probably my limiting factor.  I used to have periods of punting 4x a week in the golden age of EE escorts, but now the will has declined slightly and it’s 1-2.

Two reasons why.  Firstly, there aren’t as many great girls around so I always have a thin hotlist and struggle for regulars.  Secondly, I want it a little bit less.  It could be age or it could just be that I’ve fucked so many girls I’ve gotten it out of my system.

[magnetico]

Christ, that was a lot of spend.

In hindsight, was it really good value?

I met an SB recently.  She was down.  She can go bloody far down when she's down.
I booked a (cheap) hotel but she wasn't in a state to do funtime. So I said 'do friend time if you want'.

We went for a walk in a park.

Offered to take her home, she wanted to stay out, in the 'I'm good away from home' zone.  And home is back in the pit.

I took her home, and gave her the same money I would have given her for bonkers sex.  Which she normally delivers.

3 hours of clothes on dozing wrapped around each other.  I started thinking 'I owe her this'.  And at the end, I felt I got the better deal.

Why? Because holding and being held like that, with no sex agenda, was wonderful.

I am seriously questioning what I want - and it seems that emotions, and being a friend, are more fulfilling than walking away with empty balls.

Looks like you need to make friends ,
not paying a prossie for a hug and a chat, doesn't make sense at all to me

[Kieslowski]

Motive for me. I'm single so opportunity isn't much of an issue, and I have enough spare cash for a punt or two every month if I so wish. But whereas once upon a time I would look at AW getting excited about potential future punts, these days it just depressed me. I've tried meeting girls on sites like Seeking, but so many of them are just completely unrealistic about what they're wanting and what they expect to give out for it, and that's the ones that bother to respond. Far too many sign up and then leave after about a week, leaving a tantalising profile. And the cost of a membership so you can actually contact them is too high now when it's so speculative.

It feels like there's some new underground way of finding SPs and I just don't know what it is, but I suspect it's just a combination of webcamming allowing local women to do sex work while convincing themselves they're not doing sex work, and maybe just being harder and less lucrative for foreign women to come to the UK.

Whatever it is, it's made me far more likely to just have a wank than bother trying to organise a punt.

[midspunter]

Christ, that was a lot of spend.

In hindsight, was it really good value?

I met an SB recently.  She was down.  She can go bloody far down when she's down.
I booked a (cheap) hotel but she wasn't in a state to do funtime. So I said 'do friend time if you want'.

We went for a walk in a park.

Offered to take her home, she wanted to stay out, in the 'I'm good away from home' zone.  And home is back in the pit.

I took her home, and gave her the same money I would have given her for bonkers sex.  Which she normally delivers.

3 hours of clothes on dozing wrapped around each other.  I started thinking 'I owe her this'.  And at the end, I felt I got the better deal.

Why? Because holding and being held like that, with no sex agenda, was wonderful.

I am seriously questioning what I want - and it seems that emotions, and being a friend, are more fulfilling than walking away with empty balls.

If you are getting something that satisfies you, that thing doesn't have to be sex, it can just be intimacy.

Also, if you've been seeing an escort for a long while, there are occasional times when you can tell that although she is willing she's clearly not really up for it, and I think that's OK. Escorts are people, not machines.

[rubric]

Motive is probably my limiting factor.  I used to have periods of punting 4x a week in the golden age of EE escorts, but now the will has declined slightly and it’s 1-2.

Two reasons why.  Firstly, there aren’t as many great girls around so I always have a thin hotlist and struggle for regulars.

Yep, that's the main reason for my changing preferences, the secondary reason is that I live a little further away from public transport, so generally what used to be 30 minutes each way to see a girl has become more like one hour. I suspect I'd eat the time if I had a full hotlist and there were still oodles of hot EE girls around, but given the combination of the two I can often not be arsed to spend my entire afternoon/evening seeing an escort.

[summernirvana]

I think 'supply' is also a very important factor in this equation. It's barren out there.

And for someone who likes natural (no tattoos, lip fillers, breast implants, etc) slender women - it has been dire.

Admittedly I absolutely do not have the means to punt; even P&Ds are unaffordable.

[_Bender_]

I've come to conclude that punting is a single man's game ... benifiting those who primarily live in London.

As for myself, I have the means, not a problem, but motivation and oppotunity are problamatic and I suppose relates to the lack of decent, relieable suppliers around.

I've not punted for just over 2 years, I've lost my pretty decent AW account and 100+ feedback, I dont punt in my area (I dont shit where I eat and locally,  75% of the grils I've met in the past are usually 6 degrees of seperation ...  most a lot less!) so its not worth the risk.

So I've always looked further afield, I see someone I like and my dick gets hard, but you’ve got to book weeks in advance, which now makes me anxious and I’ll probably have to pay a deposit (which in some cases I probably would) all this combined with the long travelling kills my motivation, and my dick goes limp, combined with now I've got to start lying to the missus, firends or work colleagues, I cant be botherd to try and create my opportunity.

In the meantime I’m chucking a fork in it, I’m done and with my punter mentality I’ll keep squrilling the cash maybe set up an ISA if I can keep it secret … I can’t spend it on anything else! … fml! 😂

[akauya]

Means - having the money to pay for your punts.
Motive - having a reason/desire to punt.
Opportunity - being able to 'disappear' for the duration of the punt without detection.

For me, at present, means and motive aren't a great problem.  I have enough spare money to punt around 4 to 6 times per month  (although I could always do with more, of course!)  The motive is fairly constant due to getting very little sex with the OH.  The main variant being how strong my urge is for a punt and often a wank will do.  Getting the opportunity is usually the most limiting and frustrating factor.  There are plenty of times when I'm horny for a punt but can't get away and others where the opportunity is right there but the cash and/or desire aren't.

For me it's mainly the motive, sex with Mrs. A is non-existent but I have a lover who gives me the sex with the emotional connection I like. I punt because it gives me the opportunity to have sex with unknown women. As I hardly visit the same SP more than twice - I like the variety. I spend a lot of money with my lover with going out to theatres, meals in good restaurants, etc. Then in my punter's head I calculate how much of pro service I would have bought with that money instead. If I didn't have a lover I would probably punt more often.

I'm addicted to women I think.

[John Johnson]

Means and opportunity are there but in general on AW the WGs in areas that I get to visit don't appeal. There are a small number that look lovely but they are rare. That's why I've been focusing on massage parlours and I've concluded that a good Bj or HE is the way forward.

[the fitter]

Means, I have a budget, and if an expensive punt comes along, I will go for it, and wait until the budget level is replenished, before the next punt.

Opportunity I create.

Motivation, is different for everyone, I like a punt to be most of my day, if it's an incall, it's a bar, then the punt and back to the bar to relax and reflect. If it's an outcall, I have a beer, and when she arrives, I pour myself another, and offer the girl a drink, which most accept, and the meet seems to flow better, more relaxed, and the time usually extends, this is not the purpose, but is usually the outcome.

[kingmg]

Post Covid a lack of choice I would say is a big one. The size 6  early 20 year olds just aren’t there anymore.

too lazy nowadays all on only fans