A bit of a rant of the scene right now.

[CalQueLon]

 Hi Just as the title says this is a bit of a rant do the tldr (Too Long Didn't Read) of this is that the scene sucks from a pricing and service right now and feel like I can no longer punt.

 I have been punting for almost 10 years though trial and ALOT of error it became a good relief for me my dating life was not that good and became nonextant and punting filled a void which at the time helped me from a mental health perspective. But as the years went on it just became part of life every month or so I would do a punt sometimes expensive too my budget (£200) or just good one hour (£100) or 30 mins (£50 - £60) not cheap but just about an amount that you could subconsciously accept if you thought about it with any rational thought you would wince but that's punting you usually think with your little head and that will do.

 But now, not that level of service is all that different from before if I am to be honest, the prices are getting so out of hand and the POOL OF TALENT is so small and repetitive plus with the level of service is so bad I just cant justify spending the money and again in punting that is usually not the case for as it was a great thing for me just too have a bit of a good time.

 The last punt I did was in early Jan of this year the punt was OK it didn't trouble me for the price I parted with (£200) and I was going too write a review but it would have been all the same as pretty much ever other poster about other SP saying "..she was good but would only recommend for PD (Pump and Dump)..." well that would be fine but PD prices are so bad right now how could I tell other punters that.

 Even Logan (sorry don't mean too add you too this but I have read some of your reviews of other SP) have been so un Logan like if that is a thing. The going rate for 15 mins is £60!! some SP just offer 30 mins now and that is up too £80 - £90 sometimes even £100 plus.

 Before I tried too cut punting and tried OLD (Online Dating) and that became a money sink too maintain came back too punting but in that short time it has became too much for me to be honest. The prices and bad level of service most of the time not all is a bit too much for me too gamble with. Right now I'm on my second longest stretch of not punting  the other time I was ill but this one looks like it will continue for a lot longer. To also add my Fav SP has left the scene I believe completely but she has been gone for 2 years and I still went on not anymore.

[beemer44]

I hit this patch late  last year and tried seeking and also mixed AW up a bit.  Rather than going for a punt a week I’d do a Reverse booking every other week,  both in-call/outcall and it’s been a a breath of fresh air. Had 1 girl blow me out last min but the rest have been good as gold. 

[CalQueLon]

Maybe I mainly use AW and a small bit of vivastreet but it still wild too me that the prices are that out of sync towards what you get

[southcoastpunter]

Maybe I mainly use AW and a small bit of vivastreet but it still wild too me that the prices are that out of sync towards what you get

maybe its your expectations that are out of sync with the market.

Its quite simple really - can you get what for you is a reasonable punt for a reasonable price? if yes, continue. if not give up and/or do something else!

sorry, i get fed up with guys moaning - it is what it is. moaning changes nothing - and yet, looking at reviews, some guys seem to get what they consider a reasonable punt at an acceptable price - out of the last 50 London reviews, only 4 are not "positive" .

[dubhcarr]

Punters like consistency and value for their hard earned not reviewing or accepting poor service and/or value is where we all might need to improve. Prices are up that's life I'm afraid but for me I'm cutting down my overall spend through shorter meets less meets etc and one strike out policy not thinking next meet with a poor provider will be ok. We cannot walk back to previous pricing and availability but I notice that some SPs who pushed their prices after lock down are back to pre covid levels. Good providers have pushed their prices eg 150 to 200 ph I guess some are worth it and some not. Reviewing is more essential IMO even if well reviewed in the pas as I want to know if she is worth an elevated fee today?   

[EasyRider21]

You can see a similar trend pretty much everywhere - rent and housing prices, cars, food, SPs, etc...

Following the massive rent increases last year and the soaring energy costs there had to be some price movement on this market too. Funny thing is that SPs also sometimes complain to me about not making as much as they used to. It's probably a mixture of less volume and higher costs. All of us are impacted...

It does result in a few issues, like a smaller pool of talent and more risk per punt but my biggest fear by far is that it will create a fertile ground for sex traffickers offering cheap girls to punters looking to cut costs. This in turn could lead to feminists/other groups calling for more regulation. I really hope it won't come to this.       

[FiveKnuckles]

There's still £40/£60 for 15/30min on VS.  Don't expect GFE.  You'll need to put in the extra due diligence checks for an AW profile offering BB and avoid them.
There's plenty skanks in this lower price range and many seem to have a Sergei/madam.   It helps when other punters make a review once they find a gem.

I'm focusing on £40-50 for 15min.  I'll stretch to £60 (or £80 for 30min) when I fancy those cute Thai's that include OWO. 

[Iceman90]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

[daviemac]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

Does that include yourself? your last 2 reviews were £100 for 30 mins and £150 for 45 which equates to £200 ph.   

[GingerNuts]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

Beaten to it, what davie said.

[alabama1]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

And yet, the three reviews on here where you have stated payment, you have paid the following...£100 for 30 mins., £150 for 45 mins, and £150 for 30 mins. You have been paying more than £150 an hour. 
'Do as i say, not as i do' springs to mind. Are you ashamed of yourself ? 

[GreyDave]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

  I recentley paid £200 for an hour of non stop hot flithy action with a couple it was fantastic the thing I remember most was ploughing her as she was still jerking as he ploughed me 

I also paid £90 for an hour with a solid Hungarian Golash ( and cock ) gobbler it was meh forgetable the thing I remember most was wanking furiously to try and cum a second time on her

Ive done a few Walk ups too the price has risen there £30 an 2quid tip the service is just a quick 10mins 1 postion ...

Thats why its called punting... I had a really nice PM from a fellow member on her who told me he was 86 I hope i am still here (on earth) never mind punting at that age I am 60 and feel I want to shag as many diffrent types and races of women as i can in the active years I have left ( using blue pill) regretably the market is full of Romanians Hungarian and Hard nose British Brasses with the few Brazlian and Indian wonders thats life, I enjoy seeing diffrent shape and difrent styles of pussey and tit (ok I like large clits and tits )  either you want to do many diffrent girls and pay or just watch porn and save cash for paying the care home costs and fees which will get us all

[southcoastpunter]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

why do you feel it necessary to disrespect someone who thinks a little differently to you? perhaps someone could say:

 "anyone paying less than £150 per hour should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are trying to exploit women!"  (ok i don't believe that but it could be someone's point of view)

And as has been pointed out, your words and deeds don't seem to align.

It also depends a bit on geography - this originally was posted in the London region where prices are generally higher than elsewhere.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

So you are calling me a twat?!

You have no idea.

Just because you think escorts should only be charging what you feel is 'value' doesn't mean it is the same as what I consider 'value'.

Bet you believe you should be able to buy an Aston Martin for the price of a effing Nissan!

I what a joke you are!

[Cheltclient]

why do you feel it necessary to disrespect someone who thinks a little differently to you? perhaps someone could say:

 "anyone paying less than £150 per hour should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are trying to exploit women!"  (ok i don't believe that but it could be someone's point of view)

And as has been pointed out, your words and deeds don't seem to align.

It also depends a bit on geography - this originally was posted in the London region where prices are generally higher than elsewhere.

I don’t think anyone would think ‘oh I’d much rather pay £200 than £100’.  it’s just the reality. If I do a search in my area and really keen on a same day booking, and I have 9 roms with awful feedback and cheaper rates, and one English girl I fancy seeing at £200 with good reviews, he seems to be suggesting I should book the crap, cheaper service in order to not be a twat and protect those who wants to pay cheaper. Or maybe I should just not punt at all.

Was a strange criticism that one.

[Southernbloke]

Seen a lot of girls at different prices and locations. My experience is that cheap can be good and really bad and expensive can good and really bad.
That’s what this brilliant forum is for do your research on here and if someone looks to be good to be true and there’s nothing on here about them don’t see them, go to well reviewed sp and enjoy yourself

[FLYING BLUE]

Does that include yourself? your last 2 reviews were £100 for 30 mins and £150 for 45 which equates to £200 ph.   

 

[Atrueyorkie]

I actually don’t think pricing is the issue at the moment. Like mentioned the scene is dead! No good options!

In all my years punting I’ve never seen it so bad.

[shyleo]

A bit of advice please folks ... How does reverse booking work?

[poundstock]

I actually don’t think pricing is the issue at the moment. Like mentioned the scene is dead! No good options!

In all my years punting I’ve never seen it so bad.

Sorry to disagree with you Yorkie. Admittedly I’m not a prolific punter nowadays but there’s enough out there to keep me interested. My hotlist is overflowing with a mix of new stuff and returns to look forward to.

[Everhard115]

Agreed with the general sentiment the type of SP's that I fancy are reaching the 200 per hour mark. They were around 100 per hour back in 2016.
Not moaning accepting it as is and looking at alternatives  ways to improve my income, seeking, dating, AW all venues being explored but yes it is hard work at the moment and poor value.

[sim0256]

I was a late starter and only started punting about 18 months ago , not years like some other posters.  Even I , in my local area, can see a downward trend of choice and availability . Prices are always high in the limited market locally.
No one should criticise others for what they pay , one reason my choice is poor is that fewer high price touring 'blow ins' seem now to come here or their stays are very short. They move on to other to better markets for other reasons also , rental prices being one. A friend who punts aboard , mainly Spain, says the same thing about the state of the market there. Posts and reviews for my area also seem to be drying up giving little guidance to punters for who is worth a visit .
Simple fact applies , the market ,any market will respond and adjust to supply and demand and you can throw in  costs to the provider in there as well.

No girl is too expensive if you can afford her and you get want you want.

[RandomGuy99]

Prices do seem a little out of control. You have new SPs with zero feedback looking for £160 ph. I don't mind paying that kind of money for a well reviewed SP with a good track record, but I'm not going to pay it to an SP I'm taking a risk on. However, I guess the new SPs are just looking at the profiles of other SPs to determine what the going rate is.

I've done a few bookings over the last month and quality is a bit variable. I had one great booking with an SP who was very enthusiastic and put the effort in. She definitely earned her money.  Others were a bit meh.

[Cheltclient]

People are right - even outside of pricing, the range of options have massively diminished. When I used to live in Cheltenham, I would get the horn and almost always there was a decent option on AW. There would be a few tourers, a few locals, and actually some EE’s with ok reviews.

Looking at AW today in the area, lots of Roms with hardly any feedback. A couple of English girls who looks like tourers with mixed feedback on here. A couple older women who reviews suggest are a tad rough. An open (and ugly) bare backer. One English girl looks ok and has some decent feedback but doesn’t do oral without. She would be the only real option and to be fair to her, only £130 an hour. Just like oral without. For that roster, the prices seem ok but it reflects the lack of quality/appeal

[Colston36]

I recentley paid £200 for an hour of non stop hot flithy action with a couple it was fantastic the thing I remember most was ploughing her as she was still jerking as he ploughed me 

I also paid £90 for an hour with a solid Hungarian Golash ( and cock ) gobbler it was meh forgetable the thing I remember most was wanking furiously to try and cum a second time on her

Ive done a few Walk ups too the price has risen there £30 an 2quid tip the service is just a quick 10mins 1 postion ...

Thats why its called punting... I had a really nice PM from a fellow member on her who told me he was 86 I hope i am still here (on earth) never mind punting at that age I am 60 and feel I want to shag as many diffrent types and races of women as i can in the active years I have left ( using blue pill) regretably the market is full of Romanians Hungarian and Hard nose British Brasses with the few Brazlian and Indian wonders thats life, I enjoy seeing diffrent shape and difrent styles of pussey and tit (ok I like large clits and tits )  either you want to do many diffrent girls and pay or just watch porn and save cash for paying the care home costs and fees which will get us all

I am the only 86 year old on here, I imagine, so here are two comments.

1. Prices of everything - everything - have aways gone up. When I was young a pint in my parents' pub was the equivalent of 7p. My first house cost £675. The one I stay in now, £900,000. A lot grander but still!

2. "Seek and ye shall find". I am in LA at the moment. Can't misbehave as with my daughter. Already lined up my first meeting for next week and she does all the very kinky things I like. £100 an hour.  And I have another lined up, £110. I see a couple for £150. Stop moaning and start looking.

[Colston36]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

What are you doing about supermarket prices? Stopped eating? Or are you ashamed of yourself?

[CalQueLon]

maybe its your expectations that are out of sync with the market.

Its quite simple really - can you get what for you is a reasonable punt for a reasonable price? if yes, continue. if not give up and/or do something else!

sorry, i get fed up with guys moaning - it is what it is. moaning changes nothing - and yet, looking at reviews, some guys seem to get what they consider a reasonable punt at an acceptable price - out of the last 50 London reviews, only 4 are not "positive" .

I fully agree hence why I'm doing something else. I was just venting about it and I have had a good value for money punt recently before my last one so there is a good time too be had but I believe my point, or maybe my rant haha, still stands

[CalQueLon]

Agreed with the general sentiment the type of SP's that I fancy are reaching the 200 per hour mark. They were around 100 per hour back in 2016.
Not moaning accepting it as is and looking at alternatives  ways to improve my income, seeking, dating, AW all venues being explored but yes it is hard work at the moment and poor value.

Fully agree with this. I am too am accepting it for what it is and have not punted since not out of protest just that I just cant afford it that's all too those that can and don't mind I don't think what I'm saying here will do much. But I would like too think I was not alone in these thoughts.

[Cheltclient]

Fully agree with this. I am too am accepting it for what it is and have not punted since not out of protest just that I just cant afford it that's all too those that can and don't mind I don't think what I'm saying here will do much. But I would like too think I was not alone in these thoughts.

I’m def not punting as much. I’d say I used to be one a month. Feels like one a quarter these days.

[PilotMan]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

Not one of your 7 punts was below the £150 per hour rate.

The only time you paid below this was in August 2020 when you short changed the girl (TS) by £10, so that it was £140 per hour.

You should be ashamed of yourself, utter twat.

[Stevelondon]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

For some strange reason I woke up this morning and felt no shame whatsoever. Could there be something wrong with me I wonder.

I messaged a SP on AW and being the honest bloke I am. I admitted to being a twat and being a considerate girl. She did say she would be reducing her prices accordingly and getting a part time job at Aldi to make up the difference.

Thank you Iceman for pointing this out to us.

[chadpitt]

Anyone paying over £150 an hour really should be ashamed of themselves. These twats are enabling the girls to charge ridiculous prices.

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.

[Trex]

Reasons the talent pool is short is

1. Onlyfans- there are some girls make a lot of money on there for selling content and webcamming. Some decided to charge a lot of money for escorting now.

2. Brexit- No freedom of movement for EU countries.

3. Covid- Some girls get put off by it, now it has got better but it did hurt the punting scene for a while.

I think we in a rough patch at the moment. January and February are the worst time to punt anyway.

[Stevelondon]

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.

So what our saying is that all pricing should be regulated

I shouldn’t be shopping at Waitrose and should be going to Aldi

What a load of bollocks 

[big-al93]

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.

If you don't want to pay the prices, then don't. Personally I am not going to stop seeing a great SP who increased her rate in Dec from £140 to £160, the first increase in quite a long time iirc. I have however held back on booking another who used to be £120, then as she built a reputation £140, then £160 and has jumped to £200 now, but if I'm completley honest I probably will return at some point, but would be regular as clockwork at £160.

A lot of it is psychological and £40 (20%) seemed like a big jump and hard to justify. However I would rather pay £150-200 to a well reviewed attractive escort that I get along with, than £120 on a gamble with a girl I've never met, who probably gives a shite service, possibly a language barrier and when you get there will probably try to claim even the basics like owo and DFK are extra and end up costing the bottom end of the higher rate anyway, or you get annoyed and refuse the extras and she's grumpy as f**k.

I do agree though that the new unproven girls probably shouldn't be charging these sort of rates until established. But that's just a reflection of the entitlement of many (not all by any means) young people, they seem to think that the world owes them a life worth living, see going to college/Uni as a right ect.

[chadpitt]

If you don't want to pay the prices, then don't. Personally I am not going to stop seeing a great SP who increased her rate in Dec from £140 to £160, the first increase in quite a long time iirc. I have however held back on booking another who used to be £120, then as she built a reputation £140, then £160 and has jumped to £200 now, but if I'm completley honest I probably will return at some point, but would be regular as clockwork at £160.

A lot of it is psychological and £40 (20%) seemed like a big jump and hard to justify. However I would rather pay £150-200 to a well reviewed attractive escort that I get along with, than £120 on a gamble with a girl I've never met, who probably gives a shite service, possibly a language barrier and when you get there will probably try to claim even the basics like owo and DFK are extra and end up costing the bottom end of the higher rate anyway, or you get annoyed and refuse the extras and she's grumpy as f**k.

I do agree though that the new unproven girls probably shouldn't be charging these sort of rates until established. But that's just a reflection of the entitlement of many (not all by any means) young people, they seem to think that the world owes them a life worth living, see going to college/Uni as a right ect.

Ah the old "don't like it, don't pay" boring line.

That's not much of a solution is it. Just a blanket excuse for people to pay stupid premiums and ruin it for everyone.

I don't know who you'd take a gamble on for £120. Just do the research, trust your gut, walk out when needed and start with 30 mins to begin with.

[PilotMan]

Hypocrisy aside; I agree that people should not give in to these higher prices. By paying these inflated prices they are fuelling the overinflated market.

If there are enough punters who want the service that's being offered, who have the funds and are willing to pay for it, then that will decide if the SP is busy or not. If there's a glut of SP's who aren't getting their fare share of the business then they either up their game (pun intended ) or drop their prices.

Your suggestion that we should boycott these SP's, stay at home and have a wank, ain't going to happen.

If your value judgement is that the prices are too high, but you still want to punt these SP's, then get a better job with more pay and disposable income. Or forget UKP / AW, stay at home and have a wank 

[jimbobted]

TBH it's not prices stopping me, but lack of any decent girls in the area (Norfolk). We used to have some semi regular tourers and a smattering of decent locals, but they have largely disappeared and I just don't fancy taking my chances with a Romanian or Brazilian who doesn't speak decent English.
I don't know where all the young (20s) English girls have gone, there are hardly any on AW nowadays.

[PilotMan]

I don't know where all the young (20s) English girls have gone, there are hardly any on AW nowadays.

I'm not on there, so I don't know personally, but a lot have migrated to Only fans according to members on here.

[jimbobted]

I'm not on there, so I don't know personally, but a lot have migrated to Only fans according to members on here.

Possibly. A 20s English girl I punted a few times had had an OF account previously. Said it paid her rent, but I think she only did swimsuit and lingerie stuff and nothing nude, which will have limited her earnings.
Personally I don't see the point of OF (I'm not on there either). Surely it's just an even more frustrating version of going to a strip club?

[Captainhowdy666]

I must be a cheapskate.
Most I’ve ever paid is £100 for half hour.

[southcoastpunter]

Ah the old "don't like it, don't pay" boring line.

That's not much of a solution is it. Just a blanket excuse for people to pay stupid premiums and ruin it for everyone.

you don't seriously think any punter thinks "oh i shouldn't pay her price because i might ruin it for other punters"? no - of course you don't (you are not that stupid) so why say that?

And anyway - i am waiting for those substantially lower prices to kick in that you so rigorously forecast this time last year would happen at the end of last year!

[chadpitt]

you don't seriously think any punter thinks "oh i shouldn't pay her price because i might ruin it for other punters"? no - of course you don't (you are not that stupid) so why say that?

And anyway - i am waiting for those substantially lower prices to kick in that you so rigorously forecast this time last year would happen at the end of last year!

The lack of thinking is a big problem. Even if they don't about other people it's still costing them more.

I think your confusing me with estats. I know this market defies conventional logic

[chadpitt]

.

If your value judgement is that the prices are too high, but you still want to punt these SP's, then get a better job with more pay and disposable income. Or forget UKP / AW, stay at home and have a wank 

Thats not what I do. I don't give in to ridiculous prices unlike some

[Cheltclient]

TBH it's not prices stopping me, but lack of any decent girls in the area (Norfolk). We used to have some semi regular tourers and a smattering of decent locals, but they have largely disappeared and I just don't fancy taking my chances with a Romanian or Brazilian who doesn't speak decent English.
I don't know where all the young (20s) English girls have gone, there are hardly any on AW nowadays.

I would say I’m the same. Prices don’t help and are off putting but my slowing down is def more a lack of options. Prob lucky really - if there were scores of gorgeous girls at higher premiums I’d prob be skint.

[southcoastpunter]

I think your confusing me with estats. I know this market defies conventional logic

you could be right - apologies.

[PilotMan]

Thats not what I do. I don't give in to ridiculous prices unlike some

I'm glad I don't follow your pricing rules, looking at your success rate (or lack of).

Positives 10
Neutral 11
Negatives 16

But thanks for spending your own money and checking out the cheap punts for us, letting us know which ones are shit, so we can save our money 

[chadpitt]

I'm glad I don't follow your pricing rules, looking at your success rate (or lack of).

Positives 10
Neutral 11
Negatives 16

But thanks for spending your own money and checking out the cheap punts for us, letting us know which ones are shit, so we can save our money 

Except I see the positive ones more than once.

Whereas for your last neutral you paid £210 for just 45 mins (not even an hour) and for someone in their 40s   

[Steely Dan]

A bit of advice please folks ... How does reverse booking work?

External Link/Members Only

Happy to answer further questions after you have read this.  You might need to press 'advanced' to access this, but the site does work.

[Metalgear2018]

I was just going to put a post about the same thing but you beat me to it. I have money in my bank account burning a hole. I have spent the whole day in AW and making calls to no success. Some escorts start at 7pm some can’t take bookings anymore. Some charge £40 for owo. Some charge £80 for 15min

Also I have noticed on UKP there have been a lot of negative reviews and punters are willing to give a positive review for a substandard punt.