Why are many escorts obese and/or ugly ???

[yorkshire123]

Personally I wouldnt give a fuck if posters didnt find the pro's I fucked attractive or not.[/b]

Well said CB 

As I've stated before I'm new to this forum malarky, As far as I'm concerned if your not willing to write what you feel then its a pointless exercise.
I have the greatest of respect for HP's firm stance on "this is what i enjoy" (even if i won't press a link ever again  ) and I'm sure that most of the preceding posts following his reviews are made in jest.

I believe the major issue is when a new member posts something quite controversial & later found out to be a Troll, this shouldn't put off contributing members from asking any question or posting any review they wish to so.

[vorian]

Well said CB 

As I've stated before I'm new to this forum malarky, As far as I'm concerned if your not willing to write what you feel then its a pointless exercise.
I have the greatest of respect for HP's firm stance on "this is what i enjoy" (even if i won't press a link ever again  ) and I'm sure that most of the preceding posts following his reviews are made in jest.

I believe the major issue is when a new member posts something quite controversial & later found out to be a Troll, this shouldn't put off contributing members from asking any question or posting any review they wish to so.

You talk sense, and of course the trolls can go fuck themselves, I think I am talking more about when the first reply to a positive review, is along the lines of "She is a fat (and thus ugly) cunt" you must be a fucking idiot for punting with her style post.

[yorkshire123]

You talk sense, and of course the trolls can go fuck themselves, I think I am talking more about when the first reply to a positive review, is along the lines of "She is a fat (and thus ugly) cunt" you must be a fucking idiot for punting with her style post.

Totally agree, i must admit those comments certainly made me think twice about posting my first review, its a shame really as i enjoy reading the different reviews especially the positive ones where the OP has had a good time & feels it was money well spent irrespective of the prossie's looks, size or ethnicity.

As far as I'm concerned its good on them & long may the varying reviews continue.

[cockneybstrd]

You talk sense, and of course the trolls can go fuck themselves, I think I am talking more about when the first reply to a positive review, is along the lines of "She is a fat (and thus ugly) cunt" you must be a fucking idiot for punting with her style post.

Agreed on that front. But its the same thing as some posters always going on about how they are good looking or packing as Sir Frank would say a BBQ pringles can on the flop.

Its about ego and the need for re-assurance. Another poster summed it up on another thread. that a lot of the reviews are about posturing and ego.

I dont give a fuck if the pro's I see think I look like Bill Beaumonts ugly brother. As long as they gave me a good service. The OP mentioned why would you want to fuck a girl you cant get your arms around. As someone with arms longer than Mr Tickle its never been a problem too me. But at the same time if I do punt a very small pro I am concerned about breaking them as I like to throw around the bedroom like a ragdoll

[wristjob]

I think the point of taking the piss has been mentioned in the past and I don't think it should happen in a big way but part of the point is we are critical of all women. I'm not convinced it would stop someone reviewing - 2 of my first 3 reviews were with rough birds. 60 minutes, OWO/CIM for £60 - or I can get a relatively basic service for 30 minutes with somebody a lot sexier. Nowadays I mostly got for 30 minutes with sexier girls but I do switch my preferences and may well do so in the future.

It didn't even occur to me that people might have a go at me cos they were rough - and nobody did.

[potato]

Back in the 70's, Pepsi started their Blind Taste Test Challenge - testers were blindfolded and then asked to taste Pepsi and Coke and choose the the one they preferred.  Some have also done it with food as well. The results are interesting when some of the senses are taken out of the equation - particularly sight.

I still can recall a blow job I had back in the mid eighties - before the internet, where you basically took pot luck with what the girl looked like.  The blow job is still in my top 3 ever though the girl herself was a bit plump and older than expected. Had I seen her pic before then I would not have gone as she certainly wasn't my type. Her technique was brilliant and I would have missed out on that punt if I had judged her by looks alone.

And therein lies the quandary, If they are not a size 8 or possibly a 10 then I am not interested and I probably do miss out on some cracking experiences as a result.  Do I want average sex with a fit size 8 nice looking girl or mind blowing sex with a size 16?  - if the option isn't there for mind blowing sex with the size 8?  Ah, that's the problem and I would have to opt for the 8..

Why are so many obese? Well a lot are probably just lazy and get into bad habits - pizza deliveries between clients and laying on their back all day for a start. Some probably start off quite fit and just decline over the years as the money just comes in easy and they have no need to work hard to get it..

[rockharders]

You talk sense, and of course the trolls can go fuck themselves, I think I am talking more about when the first reply to a positive review, is along the lines of "She is a fat (and thus ugly) cunt" you must be a fucking idiot for punting with her style post.

I've contributed quite a few reviews and I get those same bullshit negative comments on my reports by certain trolling fuckwits here who write the same crap over and over again. I don't give a damn now. I punted a couple weeks ago with a chubby dumper and it wasn't bad, far better than some lifeless hotties I've had the misfortune to try out. Attitude and enthusiasm trumps good looks in my experience, but if you can get both then all the better.

[akauya]

You talk sense, and of course the trolls can go fuck themselves, I think I am talking more about when the first reply to a positive review, is along the lines of "She is a fat (and thus ugly) cunt" you must be a fucking idiot for punting with her style post.

Unfortunately there are far too many of those, even from so called "respected" members who like to shit on reviews who mention Romanian or fat girls. It gets tiresome and adds nothing to the forum.

[smiths]

Unfortunately there are far too many of those, even from so called "respected" members who like to shit on reviews who mention Romanian or fat girls. It gets tiresome and adds nothing to the forum.

Indeed, it is an absolute obsession with a couple to run down EVERY Romanian WG irrespective of the fact they are in reality of course all individuals.

Its also complete bollocks obviously to state ALL WGs who charge under £100 an hour are skanks. More importantly its disproven on here by a number of punters including me. Personally i dont appreciate others posting such utter drivel, however they are free to post what they like within the rules, as are we all.

I was once advised to toughen up on my early days on Pnet, and that was among the best advice i ever got. I advise others to do so, this isnt a forum discussing the next Vicars tea party, and some have a very negative view of WGs borne out of bad experiences which is translated into their posts. I dont carry baggage from a bad punt into a new one with another WG, they all get a clean slate from me as i treat them as the individuals they are. Some choose not to do that which is up to them.

What i find particularly stupid is when a positive review is posted up then another punter posts on it saying the WG has no face pictures, the OP of the review now knows what she looks like so its a case of either taking his word for it that she looks like how he describes her, or they look elsewhere. Only if they are known members on here is their any point in offering advice as to how a punter or punters think their profiles can be improved as they see it in my view.

[vorian]

Unfortunately there are far too many of those, even from so called "respected" members who like to shit on reviews who mention Romanian or fat girls. It gets tiresome and adds nothing to the forum.

If anything I  believe it takes away from the forum,  unless there is a set of rules about who you can and cannot punt with, that I'm not aware of and before it is said I'm not trying to say people's thoughts or comments should be censored in anyway or turn it into PN.

As you said doesn't really add anything,  if a punter likes big women and it's his thing,  he is not suddenly going to see the light and go for size 8 because he is called stupid for liking big fat women but it might stop him doing anymore reviews which doesn't help the next punter.

[vorian]

Indeed, it is an absolute obsession with a couple to run down EVERY Romanian WG irrespective of the fact they are in reality of course all individuals.

Its also complete bollocks obviously to state ALL WGs who charge under £100 an hour are skanks. More importantly its disproven on here by a number of punters including me. Personally i dont appreciate others posting such utter drivel, however they are free to post what they like within the rules, as are we all.

I was once advised to toughen up on my early days on Pnet, and that was among the best advice i ever got. I advise others to do so, this isnt a forum discussing the next Vicars tea party, and some have a very negative view of WGs borne out of bad experiences which is translated into their posts. I dont carry baggage from a bad punt into a new one with another WG, they all get a clean slate from me as i treat them as the individuals they are. Some choose not to do that which is up to them.

What i find particularly stupid is when a positive review is posted up then another punter posts on it saying the WG has no face pictures, the OP of the review now knows what she looks like so its a case of either taking his word for it that she looks like how he describes her, or they look elsewhere. Only if they are known members on here is their any point in offering advice as to how a punter or punters think their profiles can be improved as they see it in my view.

Imo you are spot on with your post Smiths.

[akauya]

Indeed, it is an absolute obsession with a couple to run down EVERY Romanian WG irrespective of the fact they are in reality of course all individuals.

Its also complete bollocks obviously to state ALL WGs who charge under £100 an hour are skanks. More importantly its disproven on here by a number of punters including me. Personally i dont appreciate others posting such utter drivel, however they are free to post what they like within the rules, as are we all.

I was once advised to toughen up on my early days on Pnet, and that was among the best advice i ever got. I advise others to do so, this isnt a forum discussing the next Vicars tea party, and some have a very negative view of WGs borne out of bad experiences which is translated into their posts. I dont carry baggage from a bad punt into a new one with another WG, they all get a clean slate from me as i treat them as the individuals they are. Some choose not to do that which is up to them.

What i find particularly stupid is when a positive review is posted up then another punter posts on it saying the WG has no face pictures, the OP of the review now knows what she looks like so its a case of either taking his word for it that she looks like how he describes her, or they look elsewhere. Only if they are known members on here is their any point in offering advice as to how a punter or punters think their profiles can be improved as they see it in my view.

Great post Smiths.

As for the bit I highlighted, that's spot on. Like you and many others I started punting years ago before the internet or forums. We never had photos of girls to go by. All we had was a glowing description by the maid, we really did take a punt those days. Nowadays people don't realise how easy we have it. So when a punter does decide to take a punt with a prossie who doesn't show her face then good for him! If the girl turn out to be great then fantastic and tells us all about it if not then we know we can avoid her. I won't be shitting on his review when he actually did us a favour by telling us about it. I can just imagine the huge number of great prossies we could miss if we only punted girls who show their faces. It's an stupid situation to put yourself into.

[wristjob]

People can be obsessed with face pics. Yes sometimes the face doesn't really go with the body. As I see it you can book a girl without seeing the face and walk when you get to the door if you odn't like the looks - and you've wasted a journey. It's part of the risk but reality is most British girls won't put face pics up and while most girls have been better or worse than I expected I don't think I've seen any with a nice body and truly hideous face.

Thing is if you won't see a girl without a face pic fair enough - but saying so adds nothing to the review and nothing the OP can say will likely change things

[pokenn]

Those last few posts by Smiths, Akauya and Vorian are some of the best sense I heard on UKP for a while. We are all individual punters. It's our own money and we can do what we want.

I respect members choice not to post reviews if they so choose, but if someone is willing to put up a review then give him a bit a respect too.

[smiths]

Great post Smiths.

As for the bit I highlighted, that's spot on. Like you and many others I started punting years ago before the internet or forums. We never had photos of girls to go by. All we had was a glowing description by the maid, we really did take a punt those days. Nowadays people don't realise how easy we have it. So when a punter does decide to take a punt with a prossie who doesn't show her face then good for him! If the girl turn out to be great then fantastic and tells us all about it if not then we know we can avoid her. I won't be shitting on his review when he actually did us a favour by telling us about it. I can just imagine the huge number of great prossies we could miss if we only punted girls who show their faces. It's an stupid situation to put yourself into.

Great post yourself. Obviosuly face pics are preferable to me BUT they arent essential, if they had been i would indeed of missed out on many excellent or good WGs over the years since i have been using the net for punting.

IMO sometimes its important to add things to a review, for example i have added a post to a positive review about Misty McCaine because she is now offering threesomes with Katie Weale, Weales pics are in her free gallery, so i wished to warn any punters bothered.

[Daffodil]

Apologies for being blunt, but you guys who won't post reviews for fear of ridicule are pretty weak.

They're not your girlfriends, they're not your wives, they're not your sisters. They're prossies 

At the end of the day some women are mingers. We all know it. If you're attracted to them that's great, but we don't live in a namby-pamby world where everybody says how amazing everybody else is. And thank God for that.

I've endured ridicule for girls I've fucked from mates and the such, and dished it out. And this is an internet forum with anonymity. I think some posters here should man up and not cry that somebody said some mean words about a prossie they fucked 

[ForrestGump]

Apologies for being blunt, but you guys who won't post reviews for fear of ridicule are pretty weak.

They're not your girlfriends, they're not your wives, they're not your sisters. They're prossies 

At the end of the day some women are mingers. We all know it. If you're attracted to them that's great, but we don't live in a namby-pamby world where everybody says how amazing everybody else is. And thank God for that.

I've endured ridicule for girls I've fucked from mates and the such, and dished it out. And this is an internet forum with anonymity. I think some posters here should man up and not cry that somebody said some mean words about a prossie they fucked 

I'm one of those "weak" folks who gets upset by the cutting remarks and ridicule dished out by others, especially when it's personal. But I've learned to bite my tongue and to some extent let it wash over me. However I can't see me ever getting to the stage where I'm unaffected by it. So that undoubtedly does influence what I say and the way I conduct myself when I'm contributing to the forum.  However according to you I'm weak and need to man up? Is that the only possible explanation? But what if I'm quite happy with the way I am and don't feel that it's me that needs to change? Are you going to make any concessions? You don't strike me as the type to give any ground because, after all you probably don't feel that you have the need to.

It'd be a boring World if we were all the same. 

[cockneybstrd]

Apologies for being blunt, but you guys who won't post reviews for fear of ridicule are pretty weak.

I've endured ridicule for girls I've fucked from mates and the such, and dished it out. And this is an internet forum with anonymity. I think some posters here should man up and not cry that somebody said some mean words about a prossie they fucked 

I agree that suffering from peer pressure on Internet forum is pretty insane. Like you I have had the shit ripped out of me for some of the mental civvy birds I ve shagged by my mates and I do the same to them.

Whether it makes me a cunt or not I treat this place as I would do the changing room you dish it out and and you take it but you try not take it personally. As most of it is tongue in cheek from 90 per cent of the posters.

At the end of the day it dont matter if its some old sour bastard mocking my choices. Because I enjoy the choices I make

[wristjob]

Apologies for being blunt, but you guys who won't post reviews for fear of ridicule are pretty weak.

They're not your girlfriends, they're not your wives, they're not your sisters. They're prossies 

At the end of the day some women are mingers. We all know it. If you're attracted to them that's great, but we don't live in a namby-pamby world where everybody says how amazing everybody else is. And thank God for that.

I used to post my reviews on another forum. They don't get many reviews in large part cos they are so damn patronising of reviewers so they have rules like no talking about a girl you haven't reviewed. You submit a review and the "panel" decide if you are a twat or not. Bottom line is it gets more hassle than it's worth so screw it, there's always somewhere else you can write your reviews that is less hassle.

Maybe it's weak - so what if you are weak then you don't do reviews - who wins? Isn't it weak to be unable to hold back the criticism when you know that will have a negative effect? It shouldn't be an ego thing of proving who is best, it's about helping fellow punters to avoid crap punts and that should always be supported.

[incognitomosquito]

I agree that suffering from peer pressure on Internet forum is pretty insane. Like you I have had the shit ripped out of me for some of the mental civvy birds I ve shagged by my mates and I do the same to them.

Whether it makes me a cunt or not I treat this place as I would do the changing room you dish it out and and you take it but you try not take it personally. As most of it is tongue in cheek from 90 per cent of the posters.

At the end of the day it dont matter if its some old sour bastard mocking my choices. Because I enjoy the choices I make

It's very difficult not to take it personally when vitriolic or intentionally demeaning statements are directed at you for no good reason and I'm not talking about the watchdogs that call out bullshit on trolls, touters, pimps or star loved nutjobs either.  As much as I appreciate the balance that there is within the community on UKP, the main issue I have is that some of the hardliners on this forum think it's okay to ridicule genuine posters, which may potentially have the effect of filtering out useful information to other punters, rather than filtering it in.  Which goes against the idea of this forum?

Take London for example, which has vast choices and therefore the majority of this sites traffic goes through there, but if you look at the amount of reviews that mainly focus on the ones which are aesthetically pleasing to the eye, it's mind boggling.  I expected there to be more diversity with regards to taste for such a diverse populace (correct me if my preconceptions are false), but perhaps this forum has accidentally censored potential reviews and posts of punters that seek escorts that are 'obese and/or ugly' or who don't fit the norm?  When people use the term different horses for different courses, it seems to only really apply to pretty WGs who either offer CIM, Anal and DFK and those who don't.

Thankfully my tastes are pretty vanilla and therefore this forum is pretty useful to me, but what if my tastes change?  Would I be able to find that hidden gem on UKP as it currently stands? Something to consider.  I would love to see this site evolve...I would love for it to contribute to the idea that punting is not a taboo and something which could be considered as something which might be confidence building and a decent hobby for anyone to spend their spare time and money....who knows...'let us hold hands'.

[Sienna_Bronze]

Surely this is all subjective. I'm a size 16. I am always busy. I couldn't physically see any more punters than I do already, so clearly in my case being a fatty is working in my favour. I know some people who would class me as a beached whale and some who only go for women size 20 and over.

It doesn't affect me going on top or the depth of penetration, not all bigger girls are unfit lard arses!

Same goes for ugly. What is ugly? I personally don't see how any one person could possibly define it.

I think when giving a review people who are clearly just ripping into the girl for her size/looks may be doing a disservice to other punters whom may be into that 'look'. I can see how some more timid posters may feel like not bothering to review their type of girl in future just out of fear of her being ripped to shreds for not being the conventional escort.

[new_punter]

Surely this is all subjective. I'm a size 16. I am always busy. I couldn't physically see any more punters than I do already, so clearly in my case being a fatty is working in my favour. I know some people who would class me as a beached whale and some who only go for women size 20 and over.

It doesn't affect me going on top or the depth of penetration, not all bigger girls are unfit lard arses!

Same goes for ugly. What is ugly? I personally don't see how any one person could possibly define it.

I think when giving a review people who are clearly just ripping into the girl for her size/looks may be doing a disservice to other punters whom may be into that 'look'. I can see how some more timid posters may feel like not bothering to review their type of girl in future just out of fear of her being ripped to shreds for not being the conventional escort.

A very concise and well considered post.

[nervyfooker]

...
Same goes for ugly. What is ugly? I personally don't see how any one person could possibly define it...

of course opinions on looks are subjective but the public
develops a consensus.

Susan Boyle = ugly
Cheryl Cole = not ugly

or ask 100 women to choose between George Clooney and Les Dawson
and guess what's the result?

[Quatro]

But I bet there are blokes out there that would like to fuck Susan Boyle, which is the point that was being made.

[vorian]

But I bet there are blokes out there that would like to fuck Susan Boyle, which is the point that was being made.

Of course only a small percentage but some for sure.

[cockneybstrd]

of course opinions on looks are subjective but the public
develops a consensus.

Susan Boyle = ugly
Cheryl Cole = not ugly

or ask 100 women to choose between George Clooney and Les Dawson
and guess what's the result?

Neither Cheryl Cole or Susan Boyle do anything for me

But as said earlier if you put a 25 year old size 8 who was say 5ft 2 and with B cups in front of me and said I could have a 25 year old 5ft 10 size 14 bird with F cups in front of me

I would pick the tall bigger bird every time

[wristjob]

I think SB is at the far end of the spectrum. I'd say you have 10% of girls who are scorching, 10% who are hideous and 80% somewhere between. A lot of guys might be intimidated by the scorching girls which means the other 80% (or 90%) divvy up their business.

One thing that always amazed me is the difference in price between a really hot 23yo and a hideous 45yo is often only a few pounds - you would assume most people would pay a few pounds more for the hotter girls but logically (some kind of market efficiency) and anecdotally (Sienna, Catherine etc - sorry not saying you are 45yo & hideous girls) everyone seems to have a place.

RL is a great example of a punter. He could pay for younger girls - he seems to prefer women who are closer to his peer group, maybe closer life experience. Maybe there's something of girls who remind you of a civvy you fancied - and in truth the civvies I fancied most were the ones who weren't massively out of my range.

I guess there are also some girls who do get very little business, but maybe they only want a bit and have other careers.

[wristjob]

Neither Cheryl Cole or Susan Boyle do anything for me

But as said earlier if you put a 25 year old size 8 who was say 5ft 2 and with B cups in front of me and said I could have a 25 year old 5ft 10 size 14 bird with F cups in front of me

I would pick the tall bigger bird every time

And I'd rather have the shorter girl (small ones are more juicy) and natural girl, and I bet that would be a split poll.

Cheryl Cole - very pretty but agree she would never make a fantasy list

[smiths]

But I bet there are blokes out there that would like to fuck Susan Boyle, which is the point that was being made.

I agree, and the fact some WGs who look like Susan Boyle advertise on A/W, some for a long time tells me they get some punters, who knows how many. There will always be punters who fancy ugly to me WGs, i see them at parties sometimes tackling WGs who look to me like elephant women.

Also in my punting youth i virtually always punted either pissed, stoned or both and those beer googles ensured i would punt with anyone. Fancying them didnt matter, a fuck was a fuck, nowadays i cant get a hard-on unless i fancy the WG, but i wonder how many punters are like i was then.

[cockneybstrd]

And I'd rather have the shorter girl (small ones are more juicy) and natural girl, and I bet that would be a split poll.

Exactly Wristjob your choice and I wouldnt belittle your choice in the little one !

btw the f cups are natural !

[Daffodil]

Maybe it's weak - so what if you are weak then you don't do reviews - who wins? Isn't it weak to be unable to hold back the criticism when you know that will have a negative effect? It shouldn't be an ego thing of proving who is best, it's about helping fellow punters to avoid crap punts and that should always be supported.

To withhold criticism/locker room critique, we would all need to either:

1) remember who the sensitive souls are and then watch our p's and q's for fear of making them cry. My memory is not good enough for this, so perhaps they could have some sort of tag under their avatar (like Nik's moderator). Fluffy would work 
2) everybody says how wonderful everybody else is and how wonderful the ladies are who they punt and how wonderful the experience sounds.

I guess a third option could be that the sensitive souls stop putting so much stock in what an anonymous person(s) on an anonymous punting internet forum think of their choices. Perhaps they could just post the review and then never look at it again, unless, as I suspect, they crave affirmation.

But, at the end of the day, is it a big deal if they don't post reviews? They are seeing mingers after all 

[JB1969]

To withhold criticism/locker room critique, we would all need to either:

1) remember who the sensitive souls are and then watch our p's and q's for fear of making them cry. My memory is not good enough for this, so perhaps they could have some sort of tag under their avatar (like Nik's moderator). Fluffy would work 
2) everybody says how wonderful everybody else is and how wonderful the ladies are who they punt and how wonderful the experience sounds.

I guess a third option could be that the sensitive souls stop putting so much stock in what an anonymous person(s) on an anonymous punting internet forum think of their choices. Perhaps they could just post the review and then never look at it again, unless, as I suspect, they crave affirmation.

But, at the end of the day, is it a big deal if they don't post reviews? They are seeing mingers after all 

You are just being a total cunt Daffodil and because you assume being a long standing member of this board you can call us fluffies or softies and just because you consider a woman to be a minger does not mean we all do.  Not all big birds are mingers and I would rather have the softness of a big bird than the bony rib cage of stick insect.  You know because you are anonymous on the boards you can bully people any way you want too.  Even the girls who are being reviewed or discussed.  I hope it makes you feel more of a man, probably why you do it. 

Yes there are some mingers out there and I am the first one to remark on a photo that offends me on Worst picture thread but you take it to a whole different level and a few others on here.

[Daffodil]

You are just being a total cunt Daffodil and because you assume being a long standing member of this board you can call us fluffies or softies and just because you consider a woman to be a minger does not mean we all do.  Not all big birds are mingers and I would rather have the softness of a big bird than the bony rib cage of stick insect.  You know because you are anonymous on the boards you can bully people any way you want too.  Even the girls who are being reviewed or discussed.  I hope it makes you feel more of a man, probably why you do it. 

Yes there are some mingers out there and I am the first one to remark on a photo that offends me on Worst picture thread but you take it to a whole different level and a few others on here.

So I can't call a minger a minger, but you can call me a cunt?  Lucky I'm made of sterner stuff.

And do you not see the hypocrisy of you saying you give it out on the worst picture thread, and then scream 'cunt' if somebody comments in a way that you don't like? 

And not thinking a minger is a minger does not make a fluffy (although your taste might be questioned), but not writing a review in fear of mean words being said about the prossie does 

[smiths]

I think SB is at the far end of the spectrum. I'd say you have 10% of girls who are scorching, 10% who are hideous and 80% somewhere between. A lot of guys might be intimidated by the scorching girls which means the other 80% (or 90%) divvy up their business.

One thing that always amazed me is the difference in price between a really hot 23yo and a hideous 45yo is often only a few pounds - you would assume most people would pay a few pounds more for the hotter girls but logically (some kind of market efficiency) and anecdotally (Sienna, Catherine etc - sorry not saying you are 45yo & hideous girls) everyone seems to have a place.

RL is a great example of a punter. He could pay for younger girls - he seems to prefer women who are closer to his peer group, maybe closer life experience. Maybe there's something of girls who remind you of a civvy you fancied - and in truth the civvies I fancied most were the ones who weren't massively out of my range.

I guess there are also some girls who do get very little business, but maybe they only want a bit and have other careers.

On your last paragraph i also guess there are some WGs who put a free A/W profile up, maybe pay to display their phone number and hope to get the odd booking here and there. Even charging £80 an hour and getting a couple or a few punters a week makes them a bit of money. Perhaps thats their expectations and any more is a bonus. If they offer a good service good luck to them.

[cockneybstrd]

Jesus Christ JB1969. How fucking senesitive are you. How do you cope in the real world if you think daff is bullying you. Do you run and hide from anyone who is a bit critical or do you cry and take your ball home crying.

As I said previously I don't give a fuck what a load of other blokes think about the pro's I decide to book.

To get bent out of shape like that to what was obviously daff taking the piss a bit is silly. If you were a doris I would be saying her have a hankie and dry your eyes.

The point is we all have different tastes. I like fucking black/asian/mixed race/white pro$$ies tall ones and even short ones. One 's with big tits and I ll even do them with small tits too. I don't care what anyone else thinks. And if I banged one with a huge nose and someone said are you sure it was a bird you fucked or barry manilow in drag as she looks a right munter. I would laugh it off and not get all upset about it. Just cos some bloke on a forum took the piss

[wristjob]

To withhold criticism/locker room critique, we would all need to either:

1) remember who the sensitive souls are and then watch our p's and q's for fear of making them cry. My memory is not good enough for this, so perhaps they could have some sort of tag under their avatar (like Nik's moderator). Fluffy would work 
2) everybody says how wonderful everybody else is and how wonderful the ladies are who they punt and how wonderful the experience sounds.

I guess a third option could be that the sensitive souls stop putting so much stock in what an anonymous person(s) on an anonymous punting internet forum think of their choices. Perhaps they could just post the review and then never look at it again, unless, as I suspect, they crave affirmation.

But, at the end of the day, is it a big deal if they don't post reviews? They are seeing mingers after all 

4th option could be pretend we are grown ups.

[smiths]

You are just being a total cunt Daffodil and because you assume being a long standing member of this board you can call us fluffies or softies and just because you consider a woman to be a minger does not mean we all do.  Not all big birds are mingers and I would rather have the softness of a big bird than the bony rib cage of stick insect.  You know because you are anonymous on the boards you can bully people any way you want too.  Even the girls who are being reviewed or discussed.  I hope it makes you feel more of a man, probably why you do it. 

Yes there are some mingers out there and I am the first one to remark on a photo that offends me on Worst picture thread but you take it to a whole different level and a few others on here.

I dont see it as bullying, its a poster posting his views, thats what this forum allows within the rules. The last thing i want to see is this forum sanitised.

[Tailpipe]

Each to there own but I would sooner knock one out than waste money a fat WG.

Thats why I suppose my punting was 99 % EE as they seem to look after there bodies.



As for Daff comments ,that's Daff he tells it the way he's see it's and that's the way it should be.

If he does not like what you have said he will soon let know.

Just get over it .

[Daffodil]

4th option could be pretend we are grown ups.

You go first 

[wristjob]

I dont see it as bullying, its a poster posting his views, thats what this forum allows within the rules. The last thing i want to see is this forum sanitised.

Is it really? I mean if somebody reviews a size 20 girl is posting "wow what a fat minger" adding anything that maybe wasn't already apparent? Essentially such a comment is there to belittle the guy doing the review which will probably lead to the guy not posting any more reviews.

[Daffodil]

Is it really? I mean if somebody reviews a size 20 girl is posting "wow what a fat minger" adding anything that maybe wasn't already apparent? Essentially such a comment is there to belittle the guy doing the review which will probably lead to the guy not posting any more reviews.

Aren't they sensitive souls.

So do you think we only ever say 'wow, she's hot' (about the hot ones) to build up the guy's ego? Nonsense. As is your 'belittling' remark.

They're just comments made on an anonymous internet forum. If people are going to cry about it and not post then I think it's they who have the problem and if this forum ever became so sanitised that people couldn't call a fat bird a fat bird then I think there'd be a fair few who'd leave (and take their reviews with them).

[Marmalade]

Getting back on topic . . .

I would have thought is was obvious why so many escorts obese and/or ugly. It's no comment on escorts generally - many of them are thin and/or good-looking.

But a good-looking woman has more options. Sad perhaps, but true. Same as an intelligenet woman has more options and same as a very determined woman ('rags to riches' syndrome) has more options.

These days a woman has the opportunity to earn the same as a man, but not all women want to work hard. For a good looking woman, the easiest option is to marry some rich fucker (or at least someone willing to pay for her and her brats) and she has a roof over hear head for life or near-enough if she plays her cards right.

Work out what that is worth in financial terms. Work out what that is worth in social terms.

Like waitressing (but better paid) being a prostitute is something any woman can do in theory (although quite a few are pretty shit at that too). A woman who is very obese or ugly has less chances of getting a wealthy husband unless she has some seriously attractive other benefits to offer. So she skips stacking shelves at Waitrose and flogs her fanny.

Of course, a woman might choose escorting for any number of reasons (paying through college, laziness, financial aspirations, or simply to build up some savings to do other things). But the OP asked specifically about the obese and/or ugly ones. (Quite honestly I think they are small percentage if you are talking very obese and very ugly, but a lot of them that look "10/10" on an AW review would look like a scrubber at an important work conference.)

[wristjob]

if this forum ever became so sanitised that people couldn't call a fat bird a fat bird then I think there'd be a fair few who'd leave (and take their reviews with them).

Wow, now who's being sensitive.

[smiths]

Is it really? I mean if somebody reviews a size 20 girl is posting "wow what a fat minger" adding anything that maybe wasn't already apparent? Essentially such a comment is there to belittle the guy doing the review which will probably lead to the guy not posting any more reviews.

Yes it really is. If it was a problem to admin they would post and say so, i dont see admin having done that.

As to saying its to belittle, thats your opinion. I once again say posters are free to post as they wish within the rules, i can post what i like just like you can, and long may that continue. If whats posted results in some leaving so be it, rather that than the forum being sanitised in my view.

[Marmalade]

I'm quite happy using words like old, obese, vaginally multiparous and so on if everyone could agree on definitions and use them consistently. On the other hand, "badsmelling folds of skin that wobbled, sweated and chafed at the smallest movement, aprons of fat hanging in front of their stomachs, batwing arms, thick flabby thighs and sagging breasts" is a realistic description of certain conditions (the quotation is taken from a published paper in medical health care philosophy.)

The reason why persons concerned are often offended by these terms is that their inner body image doesn't correspond with the outer physical fact. In day to day life, we try to focus on the inner person when we speak to someone (especially if they have their clothes on!)

For most people, sessioning with a prostitute is about the outer person, just as it would be if, for instance, you were joining a sports team. The phrase "a few extra pounds" (designed to appeal to the inner person and their ego) is less relevant than "overweight" (unless you are talking about sports like sumo wrestling.)

What term would a football coach use to players to players getting a fat salary and underperforming? I suspect it might well be something even more graphic than phrases used here.

Use of graphic language on UKP though has probably risen also as a backlash against fluffie reviews that identify with the prostitute's inner person to the point of being gratuitously misleading. No woman, no matter how fat or ugly, is ever fat or ugly in the fluffie's report. He sadly gives her 10/10 while mentioning that she was "a little heavier than I had anticipated" or says she is a "beautiful sexy lady" when he means her projected personality. Punters have got so fed up with seeing such rubbish every day on prossienet and adultwork that many want to have a forum for more discerning punters that the censored language of prossienet could never provide. By using more extreme language, they set their face against euphemistic descriptions.

All a bit academic if you like, but I'm aware that there are some intelligent-minded punters who question it and I think a serious response is not inappropriate. But the bottom line of course is, if it's not against the rules then it's the individual punter's choice

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=31076.msg434212#msg434212

[wristjob]

As to saying its to belittle, thats your opinion. I once again say posters are free to post as they wish within the rules, i can post what i like just like you can, and long may that continue. If whats posted results in some leaving so be it, rather that than the forum being sanitised in my view.

Having any rules means it's sanitised, it's just a degree. I'm not sure what the rules actually are, can't find a reference to any anywhere. I kind of assume there is something about conversing in a civil manner - there usually is. With criticisms I think it's about degree and intent. You can call a girl a fat slapper and it's maybe fair comment. If the same guy posts the same thing 5 times and it's clearly to wind up the punter then I don't think it's beneficial in any way, and for all the trolls that get stopped at the gate there are a few trolls who happily ply their trade on here.

Use of graphic language on UKP though has probably risen also as a backlash against fluffie reviews that identify with the prostitute's inner person to the point of being gratuitously misleading. No woman, no matter how fat or ugly, is ever fat or ugly in the fluffie's report. He sadly gives her 10/10 while mentioning that she was "a little heavier than I had anticipated" or says she is a "beautiful sexy lady" when he means her projected personality. Punters have got so fed up with seeing such rubbish every day on prossienet and adultwork that many want to have a forum for more discerning punters that the censored language of prossienet could never provide. By using more extreme language, they set their face against euphemistic descriptions.

See I can relate to that. With prossies it does seem sometimes objectivity goes out the window. If this is a debate about fluffies then fair point. I think when the issue is size/looks it's a different point.

Out of interest does this even happen, and does it happen often. Nobody has ever made an issue with any of mine and a couple were hidjus - and I did say in the reports. Are we having a theoretical argument or one even based in reality?

[smiths]

Having any rules means it's sanitised, it's just a degree. I'm not sure what the rules actually are, can't find a reference to any anywhere. I kind of assume there is something about conversing in a civil manner - there usually is. With criticisms I think it's about degree and intent. You can call a girl a fat slapper and it's maybe fair comment. If the same guy posts the same thing 5 times and it's clearly to wind up the punter then I don't think it's beneficial in any way, and for all the trolls that get stopped at the gate there are a few trolls who happily ply their trade on here.


See I can relate to that. With prossies it does seem sometimes objectivity goes out the window. If this is a debate about fluffies then fair point. I think when the issue is size/looks it's a different point.

Out of interest does this even happen, and does it happen often. Nobody has ever made an issue with any of mine and a couple were hidjus - and I did say in the reports. Are we having a theoretical argument or one even based in reality?

As you say you dont think its beneficial, fair enough thats your view, it cant though be against the rules or admin would take action which they havent as of yet. IMO its good to see genuine posters being given the freedom to express their views.

[Daffodil]

Having any rules means it's sanitised, it's just a degree. I'm not sure what the rules actually are, can't find a reference to any anywhere. I kind of assume there is something about conversing in a civil manner - there usually is. With criticisms I think it's about degree and intent. You can call a girl a fat slapper and it's maybe fair comment. If the same guy posts the same thing 5 times and it's clearly to wind up the punter then I don't think it's beneficial in any way, and for all the trolls that get stopped at the gate there are a few trolls who happily ply their trade on here.


See I can relate to that. With prossies it does seem sometimes objectivity goes out the window. If this is a debate about fluffies then fair point. I think when the issue is size/looks it's a different point.

Out of interest does this even happen, and does it happen often. Nobody has ever made an issue with any of mine and a couple were hidjus - and I did say in the reports. Are we having a theoretical argument or one even based in reality?

How many examples have you got of this?

[wristjob]

How many examples have you got of this?

Out of interest does this even happen, and does it happen often. Nobody has ever made an issue with any of mine and a couple were hidjus - and I did say in the reports. Are we having a theoretical argument or one even based in reality?

[Daffodil]

So none then 

What/why are you arguing? Just for the sake of it?