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vw

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I know you're feeling the heat right now so I won't crank it up any further
But this was a surprisingly controlled response
Thought you would've been over the moon
Don't give a shit?
Up until today you appeared to give many shits
Jus' sayin  :hi:

He has been extremely emotionally invested IMO and certainly not invested in reviewing, maybe that would expose his alliances?    :bomb: :bomb:

TrevorN

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« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 05:15:07 pm by TrevorN »

TrevorN

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Hi yes Smiths . I did ask advise how to get the pimp finished  .you nicely advised not to as it will effect punters . And not too .

Offline smiths

Why would you, a punter, say that ?

Take away all the drama, skullduggery and people getting over involved, and you’re left with a significant number of great girls, available at very reasonable prices, and working out of above standard accommodation. Why would you want punters to be denied that ?

I agreed with it because I know how the divines operate, which is by offering secret discounts which I see as bribes to some willing punters, all designed to help them on punting forums one of which before UKP they succeeded on. Admin banned them off here years ago so they cant blatantly tout themselves, but who knows how many punters they bribe to do so on here. IMO Raylondoner now banned off here was one for example, VT has previous and admitted to getting a then secret discount off the divines.

The divines aim is to undermine UKP, they wont succeed.

Offline finn5555

Another pimp will come and fill the void that's for sure.

True but Evanson has a lot of history in treating the pro$$ies like shit and forcing some to either retire or work elsewhere if they refused to work in his brothel...

As a convicted criminal now he may struggle to get his old mates to help him

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vw

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True but Evanson has a lot of history in treating the pro$$ies like shit and forcing some to either retire or work elsewhere if they refused to work in his brothel...

As a convicted criminal now he may struggle to get his old mates to help him

Sounds as charming as that gay GHB sniffing lawrence waxman of portfolio escorts who used to pist fake reviews here and abuse any prossie or punter that crossed him.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=171367.msg1824998#msg1824998
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 05:26:28 pm by vw »

Online Jonestown

..........but who knows how many punters they bribe to do so on here. IMO Raylondoner now banned off here was one for example,

Raylondoner used to book four hour sessions at south kensignton when ever his beloved Paris appeared on the schedule, i cant imagine that endeared him to the brothel owner, blocking a girl and a room for half a day.

Tingtong999

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I think this clergyman is just another version of that Chloe who was using peter26357472.

The spouts from both these sound like old hookers or maids to me.

The funny fact here is that Chloe works for Phoenix as Toni. If they get wind of this I’m betting she will get ousted from there - no one is going to be friends with her if she goes around photographing everything and then posting on twatter as soon as the relationship goes sour.

I don’t condone the posting of people’s children this makes uncomfortable reading from my pint of view and I wonder why twatter is allowing that to continue.

My 2 cents

vw

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Raylondoner used to book four hour sessions at south kensignton when ever his beloved Paris appeared on the schedule, i cant imagine that endeared him to the brothel owner, blocking a girl and a room for half a day.

he was very unstable too, his uke demise was hilarious

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Offline smiths

Raylondoner used to book four hour sessions at south kensignton when ever his beloved Paris appeared on the schedule, i cant imagine that endeared him to the brothel owner, blocking a girl and a room for half a day.

If the pimp was bothered they wouldn't of allowed him to book 4 hours, the fact he was able to tells me they were happy with the arrangement. It meant the punter was already on the premises rather than having say 4 separate punters booking an hour each, some of whom might be a no show. And I bet his secret discount wasn't by the hour, it was by the visit. That was certainly what the punter 6UPXXX told me he got, he was banned off here before I joined.

SlamBoy

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I think this clergyman is just another version of that Chloe who was using peter26357472.

The spouts from both these sound like old hookers or maids to me.

The funny fact here is that Chloe works for Phoenix as Toni. If they get wind of this I’m betting she will get ousted from there - no one is going to be friends with her if she goes around photographing everything and then posting on twatter as soon as the relationship goes sour.

I don’t condone the posting of people’s children this makes uncomfortable reading from my pint of view and I wonder why twatter is allowing that to continue.

My 2 cents

Whomever this TingTong999 is, they are definitely a HOD insider. Couldn't you be a bit more obvious?  :lol: Purleeeease.

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Offline Link7

He has been extremely emotionally invested IMO and certainly not invested in reviewing, maybe that would expose his alliances?    :bomb: :bomb:

He's dodgy as fuck. Why did he ask Smiths "how to get the pimp finished". What on earth did that mean?

Almost from day 1 I've suspected him of using UKP as a platform to settle scores. Too many emotional rants against people who there was no obvious reason why he hated. The attack against Jai was particularly transparent, but there have been others.



Type_O_Negative

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I always thought punting was about going to prostitute and paying for sex only. Well for some here it's like working for MI6, all these plans, games, traps, backstabings fuck me!

vw

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I always thought punting was about going to prostitute and paying for sex only. Well for some here it's like working for MI6, all these plans, games, traps, backstabings fuck me!

Its a game of nutters vs agendas, if you are not nuts and have no agenda punting is simple.  :crazy: :wacko:

Offline smiths

Checked my PMs and I see there are 3 other PMs from August last year from TrevorN (now reported the main one to admin) regarding the HOD male pimp getting done for a harassment charge including a link where that was stated, I replied saying I had to join that site to read the full info so asked was he convicted and Trevor said yes. Then he gave another link to I think HODs Twitter though it says imjur. com where my nick got a mention. This was in connection to a pledge the HOD pimp made some years ago on another forum now gone where when they said they lied about their WGs ages and sizes on the open forum I replied saying I didn't agree with doing that. I then got jumped on by a number of their arse licking punters before the pimp made a pledge not to lie about those things from that point onwards. A while later I caught them out lying once again.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 06:57:46 pm by smiths »

Offline Brazilian Martian

Bloody hell this is entertaining

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I'm not convinced this Vicar is real.
Googling his name finds two: a methodist pastor in South Wales, and a retired Anglican vicar in Northumbria.
Couldn't find any clergy by that name in London

Offline Link7

I'm not convinced this Vicar is real.
Googling his name finds two: a methodist pastor in South Wales, and a retired Anglican vicar in Northumbria.
Couldn't find any clergy by that name in London

Yeah, I think it's a given that he's fake. He's only just joined twitter and done next to nothing but attack HOD. It must be a disgruntled punter, former employee, or rival pimp.

Offline Chorley

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Jesus Christ, this thread!  Fuck going to HOD now! :scare: :scare: :scare:
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 10:07:03 pm by Chorley »

Offline smiley9

I'm not convinced this Vicar is real.
Googling his name finds two: a methodist pastor in South Wales, and a retired Anglican vicar in Northumbria.
Couldn't find any clergy by that name in London

You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to work out the Twitter Clergy is Fake  :lol:

Probably a rival Pimp or former employee with a vendetta against HOD

     :drinks:

Type_O_Negative

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I hope Carlie Simone will work as an independent WG soon and i'm happy to see her. I just can't stand all these so-called "agencies".

Online Jonestown

Jesus Christ, this thread!  Fuck going to HOD now! :scare: :scare: :scare:

Yes, that’s exactly how the anti-HoD tendency wants you to react.


SlamBoy

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Yes, that’s exactly how the anti-HoD tendency wants you to react.

Well, I'm certainly not "anti-HoD tendency" (whatever that means) but I thought after discovering the shit-show going on in the background (which seems to be a good mix of a bitch-fight between Jai and Karlie Simon and ex-HOD maids with the input of an elderly crusading clergyman who is intent on saving London from Karl Everson) I thought it was important to make punters aware what was going on so they don't get pulled into it and be exposed.

Nothing anti-HOD about that. Purely pro-Punter.

Offline Chorley

Yes, that’s exactly how the anti-HoD tendency wants you to react.
No loss to me. I've only used one agency, which was Annabella's, which I think is a Devine's outfit?  :unknown:
My first and last punt with an agency girl as I prefer independents. :hi:

Offline Jerboa

So is it Karlie Simone who has fallen out with Hod? It seems Jai has been outed from reading her twitter.

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Offline smiths

I hope Carlie Simone will work as an independent WG soon and i'm happy to see her. I just can't stand all these so-called "agencies".

Under the name Karlie Simon she is a member on UKE and posted some ads up on the London board since last November, I asked her if she was the porn star Karlie Simon and she said she was, a later poster reckoned it definitely was her. She didn't have an A/W profile, the only way to contact her in November was by PMing her on UKE that I could see, though someone posted she was on Twitter.


Offline Jerboa

Under the name Karlie Simon she is a member on UKE and posted some ads up on the London board since last November, I asked her if she was the porn star Karlie Simon and she said she was, a later poster reckoned it definitely was her. She didn't have an A/W profile, the only way to contact her in November was by PMing her on UKE that I could see, though someone posted she was on Twitter.

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Offline RK80

For what it’s worth I walked past HOD 2 in Victoria earlier (wasn’t there to punt, I just happen to be in the area) and there were no obvious signs of anyone filming or intimidating potential punters. It was around 6ish so that’s not to say that they weren’t earlier.

Either way it’s put me off using them again which sucks as I had planned to end my punting sebatical by seeing Vicki next weekend  :dash:

Type_O_Negative

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Under the name Karlie Simon she is a member on UKE and posted some ads up on the London board since last November, I asked her if she was the porn star Karlie Simon and she said she was, a later poster reckoned it definitely was her. She didn't have an A/W profile, the only way to contact her in November was by PMing her on UKE that I could see, though someone posted she was on Twitter.

Thanks for it, i've just found her on UKE, she was in London yesterday - i'm late  :(

Maybe next time.

Offline SirCharles

I hate to say this VT, but the tone of this post (and some of your last comments on HOD threads) suggests that you are in some way invested in HOD matters. I'm gonna just be open about it: Are you connected with the HOD set up? And if so, how? Are you a subtle tout for HOD?
He always seemed more connected to Maruga than HoD...my 2cts

Offline jeezyuk

So you have decided not to disclose what you asked in a PM to me, I have now reported that PM to admin after I saw this thread. Seeing as I said I wouldn't get involved in case other punters were caught up in a raid in my reply to you I advise you to now be honest and admit what you posted in that PM to me.

VT is well dodgy as I know, you could be the same, I certainly don't trust you and even more now that you haven't admitted what you asked me in that PM on Christmas Eve which relates to HOD and this thread.

Smiths,

TrevorN PM’d me on 31 December asking if I wanted to get TPC raided and saying all he wanted was the address. I told him that I wanted no part of this as it could hurt other punters. He then replied saying he wouldn’t pursue it.

I didn’t really know how to deal with this so didn’t report it to admin.
Admin - if you think this is outside your terms of use, please act accordingly.

However I suspect any action would only give TrevorN more of an agenda.

All - for the record I do not support TPC’s operating model or HOD’s tactics at times but I do not want anyone encouraging raids or harming other punters. We risk killing off a hobby that we all love. There is no need for this bitterness and such extreme actions.

Have you people who are doing these things (promoting raids, exposing punters and pimps) lost your minds???

Smiths - I will follow your lead on this sir. If you want me to screenshot and share the PMs or email admin, I will. You are very neutral and I am happy to follow your lead as the less experienced contributor on this forum.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2018, 11:33:53 pm by jeezyuk »

Offline notcalledchris

So is it Karlie Simone who has fallen out with Hod? It seems Jai has been outed from reading her twitter.

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It also seems Jai is no longer at HOD.   A great shame..

TrevorN

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Smiths you the best guy on here

Offline smiths

Smiths,

TrevorN PM’d me on 31 December asking if I wanted to get TPC raided and saying all he wanted was the address. I told him that I wanted no part of this as it could hurt other punters. He then replied saying he wouldn’t pursue it.

I didn’t really know how to deal with this so didn’t report it to admin.
Admin - if you think this is outside your terms of use, please act accordingly.

However I suspect any action would only give TrevorN more of an agenda.

All - for the record I do not support TPC’s operating model or HOD’s tactics at times but I do not want anyone encouraging raids or harming other punters. We risk killing off a hobby that we all love. There is no need for this bitterness and such extreme actions.

Have you people who are doing these things (promoting raids, exposing punters and pimps) lost your minds???

Smiths - I will follow your lead on this sir. If you want me to screenshot and share the PMs or email admin, I will. You are very neutral and I am happy to follow your lead as the less experienced contributor on this forum.

Thanks, Interesting information, my advice is if you still have their PMs report them to admin, if you don't report what the content of the PMs were to admin.

And I totally agree with your sentiments here, its one thing posting negatively about HOD or TPC on here, its an entirely different thing taking it outside UKP and trying to get one or both raided, as I posted above I wouldn't want punters in these brothels at the time of a raid have to go through that contact with the police through something I did.

Offline Link7

Smiths you the best guy on here

Goodbye you rotten low life. Complete and utter wrong'un from day 1

OldAdmin

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If anyone thinks they know who he is, then if it's any confirmation for you, the email address for his UKE account is that of an Asian name.

Offline smiths

Smiths you the best guy on here

So you are Gabbar on UKE, fuck me what a revelation, anyway you have been terminated, fuck off and don't come back. :thumbsdown:  Thanks to admin who hasn't hung about here. :thumbsup:


Offline jeezyuk

If anyone thinks they know who he is, then if it's any confirmation for you, the email address for his UKE account is that of an Asian name.

Admin ... see smiths advice above. My PMs are all saved and I am happy for you to audit and publish or act accordingly. I have nothing to hide and the info may be of use to you

Offline jeezyuk

Thanks, Interesting information, my advice is if you still have their PMs report them to admin, if you don't report what the content of the PMs were to admin.

And I totally agree with your sentiments here, its one thing posting negatively about HOD or TPC on here, its an entirely different thing taking it outside UKP and trying to get one or both raided, as I posted above I wouldn't want punters in these brothels at the time of a raid have to go through that contact with the police through something I did.

I’m in a rush to go football (still on holiday lol) but I just told admin to audit my PMs if necessary. Nothing to hide.

FYI VT is the one that notified me of this thread as I had discussed the PM with him in private when I asked him about current TPC girls. For the record he gave me a balanced review of the girls so whilst he may be infatuated with TPC, I don’t think he is a WK.. just a naive punter that gets a deal coz he shells out crazy cash punting ... which is fair enough imho if someone is spending the money I think he is. I used to bash him but I don’t think all of it is justified  :unknown:

 :hi:

Again admin can expose any of my PMs if they wish. I am neutral in all of this. Just trying to keep us all safe and level headed as possible
« Last Edit: January 08, 2018, 12:02:53 am by jeezyuk »

Offline smiths

I’m in a rush to go football (still on holiday lol) but I just told admin to audit my PMs if necessary. Nothing to hide.

FYI VT is the one that notified me of this thread as I had discussed the PM with him in private when I asked him about current TPC girls. For the record he gave me a balanced review of the girls so whilst he may be infatuated with TPC, I don’t think he is a WK.. just a naive punter that gets a deal coz he shells out crazy cash punting ... which is fair enough imho if someone is spending the money I think he is.

 :hi:

Again admin can expose any of my PMs if they wish. I am neutral in all of this. Just trying to keep us all safe and level headed as possible

I disagree regarding VT and one thing he most certainly isn't is a naïve punter, he has been punting for years at least as i read his posts elsewhere going back to at least 2010 if not longer ago. But we cant all agree on everything, the good thing is 1 proven dodgy cunt has been banned now and that's good for UKP.

vt

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Goodbye you rotten low life. Complete and utter wrong'un from day 1

So he was Asian, I knew his English wasn't quite native.

With just that one lousy review, I had his card marked early on too, but some on here seemed blind to it.  :unknown:

I know he used to troll endlessly about TPC and I probably took his bait on that subject a few too many times. But he took it to a whole new level of idiocy if he was trying to out punters.  :bomb:

Anyway, good riddance to bad rubbish!  :thumbsdown:

vw

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So you are Gabbar on UKE, fuck me what a revelation, anyway you have been terminated, fuck off and don't come back. :thumbsdown:  Thanks to admin who hasn't hung about here. :thumbsup:

Glad he has gone, a real scumbag i remember the troll poll he started, bet many are glad to see the back of him.   :bomb: :bomb:

vt

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FYI VT is the one that notified me of this thread as I had discussed the PM with him in private when I asked him about current TPC girls. For the record he gave me a balanced review of the girls so whilst he may be infatuated with TPC, I don’t think he is a WK.. just a naive punter that gets a deal coz he shells out crazy cash punting ... which is fair enough imho if someone is spending the money I think he is. I used to bash him but I don’t think all of it is justified  :unknown:

Cheers for revealing what you knew about TrevorN's nefarious activities.  :drinks:

I don't shell out 'crazy cash' by any means, my punting budget is moderate. I've partied on average roughly once a month and intersperse that with the odd 1-2-1. Though I did party 5 times in the last 3 months of 2017, I kept seeing line-ups of girls I wanted to meet. Some punters have been known to attend multiple parties per week, so I'm certainly not in that league and always I punt with my own hard-earned despite any baseless insinuations to the contrary.  :diablo:

As smiths says, I'm not as naive after about 7 years regular punting, but I certainly don't claim infallibility. In 2017, I met a number of crap TOFTT girls I probably should have walked from...see my reviews! :hi:
« Last Edit: January 08, 2018, 12:49:33 am by vt »

Offline jeezyuk

Cheers for revealing what you knew about TrevorN's nefarious activities.  :drinks:

I don't shell out 'crazy cash' by any means, my punting budget is moderate. I've partied on average roughly once a month and intersperse that with the odd 1-2-1. Though I did party 5 times in the last 3 months of 2017, I kept seeing line-ups of girls I wanted to meet. Some punters have been known to attend multiple parties per week, so I'm certainly not in that league and always I punt with my own hard-earned despite any baseless insinuations to the contrary.  :diablo:

As smiths says, I'm not as naive after about 7 years regular punting, but I certainly don't claim infallibility. In 2017, I met a number of crap TOFTT girls I probably should have walked from...see my reviews! :hi:

Whatever your deal is mate, I think you provide some useful intel and actively contribute even if it’s a bit fluffy sometimes.

I don’t think you should ever be banned but more neutral comments are advised. Speech is free so do as you see fit. You’ve been helpful to me so I can’t complain. I give you the benefit of the doubt but I’m relatively new here..think I started back in 2016 on here.

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On another note ... we as the community now need to rally.

I expect that people will not go to HOD given that they are being filmed.

The question is how far this Dr. Fella will take it. Will he film TPC too?

In good faith I think Em should be warned even if we have disapprovals of her methods.

Indie prices might raise and service might dip as they become the preferred option.

All of this caused by one asshole with a vendetta.

Now we need to unite.

We need to object to raised prices. We need to support the exHOD girls who I hope will join UKE.
We need to post as much info as we can about the met police’s involvements or activities.

Now is when we show who we are as a community and we save our hobby.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2018, 02:53:33 am by jeezyuk »

vw

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Is he alone though or is he working with a rival pimp, motivation money, if not what is his motivation?

so far we know to be suspicious of an Asian bloke with cameras near HOD premesis, does anyone have a better description.

Also was he not connected with YLF?

Expect twitter will reveal more tomorrow.   :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Offline jeezyuk

Can someone tell me why my posts are being moderated?
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